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sonic-jdm
07-04-2009, 12:30
I went to pick up a engine stand i won off ebay the weekend and he had a Pace chargecooler kit. included 12v water pump and RAD with fan that would fit a R5 turbo.

He asked me if i wanted it as he couldnt be botherd to put it on ebay.
so i made him a offer and he accepted:)

What are these kits like as ive never used one:scared:
are they worth having or should i sell on??

Cheers, Mark

Woznaldo
07-04-2009, 12:49
Depends what type you've got. The early ones were a bit naff when it came to reliability but, the later ones weren't bad at all.

Get some pictures up of the one you've got.

sonic-jdm
07-04-2009, 13:05
Depends what type you've got. The early ones were a bit naff when it came to reliability but, the later ones weren't bad at all.

Get some pictures up of the one you've got.

When you mean reliability do you mean the pump?, has he did say he changed to a uprated one as they are known to fail?

Chris Hebden
07-04-2009, 13:41
I've taken mine off for now untill i can get some Grier development done on it. The rad is too small the reservoir is too small and the pump fails. If its got the bosch pump fitted then thats a bonus and will work OK for the time being

Bigfoot
07-04-2009, 13:55
Depends on what boost you are wanting to run really. as they are not that efficient higher up. I have changed the rad to an Airtec rad which fits nicely behind my bumper. Still kept the pipe work and pump though.

http://www.autospecialists.co.uk/Instock-AIRTEC-Cosworth-Turbo-cooler-with-50-mm-core-Product-569.html

RICHIE
07-04-2009, 18:00
there ****. i bought one massive waste of money. if your in a stop start situation ie track or around town it takes ages for it to get the charge temps down and even then they are high. no better than a std intercooler. my pre rad was mounted at the bottom of the bumper in front of the rad

Mart
07-04-2009, 19:37
Agreed. They're a POS, as are Pace intercoolers.

Frix
07-04-2009, 20:11
a good intercooler is all you need, think of some of the top cars out there they dont use charge coolers!! i.e the porsche 911 turbo, doesn't use a charge cooler but does use intercoolers!!

renault5gtboi
07-04-2009, 21:29
love the chargecoolers check out my engine bay looks smart inline chargecooler with pump with mirrord heat wrapp keeps the turbo feed freeeeeeeezing well worth the coin!! ;)

turbo ted
07-04-2009, 21:52
i run 30psi through my charge cooler and never have problems with high temperature for as long as i want and it does'nt get hot, most of the time its switched off it runs to cool you got to make sure there no air locks for it to work properly:burnrubber:

Chris Hebden
07-04-2009, 22:00
i run 30psi through my charge cooler and never have problems with high temperature for as long as i want and it does'nt get hot, most of the time its switched off it runs to cool you got to make sure there no air locks for it to work properly:burnrubber:

Are you still running the intercooler also ;)! The way i understand them is they need a bit of "developing" to work well. I'll be going back to my charge cooler once i get it sorted but i am very impressed with the grill mount i've got fitted now soooooo that might change :coffee:

Woznaldo
07-04-2009, 22:09
When you mean reliability do you mean the pump?, has he did say he changed to a uprated one as they are known to fail?

Yes, the original pumps were as much use as a chocolate fire guard, the pre rads were a bit on the small side but, the main problem was that after 15psi of boost it's a gamble if the core would stay together!

The only pump worth it's salt is the Bosch one.

The PWR Barrel type are very good but, you could buy 4 FMIC set ups for the same cash.

turbo ted
07-04-2009, 22:11
just running charge cooler on its own this year but using bigger pre radiater off a ford escort rs turbo pace kit

RICHIE
07-04-2009, 22:41
just running charge cooler on its own this year but using bigger pre radiater off a ford escort rs turbo pace kit

are you measuring the charge temps

Stuart Clark
07-04-2009, 23:04
New poster! (less than 10 posts)

i ran the early type and then later the newer type, i really liked them but through high boost i did break both of them. I found that you need to carefully position everything and get your heights right, also the pre rad needs mounting in a good position. As its core is the same as a normal rad its takes a lot of the airflow to work therefore the main rad needs to be larger to compansate but does work well.

I had no probs at all whilst using them and i use a charge temp gauge (spa digital)

The only reason to fit an FMIC was because i wanted to run in excess of 30psi

I never had a pump fail and found the install quite neat with a very short boost pipe run.

Make sure you use a good antifreeze in the coolant as its all aluminium and needs protecting. Incidently both failures were due to the boost damaging the water core in the exchanger therefore they only leaked under max boost, not as most assume cracking the case. I never suffered an engine failure either due to over temps or water consumption.

Happy testing :)

Mart
08-04-2009, 00:36
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sonic-jdm
08-04-2009, 13:16
I see theres loads of mixed thoughts on this:crap:
I guess il have to try it and make my own mind up as ill only be boosting 20psi Max;)
I only payed £60 for it.

The rad that he was using was not the original, it from a Motor bike with a fan attactched to it awell to control the cooling from the cotpit. also think it would be good for me on track.

I guess ill have to try it out and decide myself, but thanks for your thoughts and info guys will take it all on board:agree: