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Thought id start this up again as the extensive build thread went with the old site..
Take one diesel extra van, Spur of the moment ebay purchase
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Dug out the old 1986 r11t lump out the garage that had been stored for many years. Rebuild?? i think not. if it ain't broke don't fix it. This is a pmt spec build.
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Add a bit of PMT
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2 months later...
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Ready for Fcs 08
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Add a t28 & set boost/fuelling up to 16lb manifold
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Rtoc day @ pod 08, Set the benchmark of 14.6 @91 on slicks, 14.8 road tyres..
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:cool:
I love this Brigsy. I bet you upset a few chavs at the lights in this..:agree:
Took it on track at Mallory park 08, not without problems but got a few laps in. Sorted suspension/brakes beforehand.
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Fitted a set of clio williams alloys for winter
From this..
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To this
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A few vids of it in action, Santa pod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhNROKsqg0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUGoh9nApw
On the rollers at motorscope, 161hp fly, 146lb torque.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8UMRU8tws
That brings the thread up to date. Ive just been servicing & generally driving it everywhere with no faults.
Anyway i have gathered a few parts together in the goal for more power & generally make the engine breathe a little bit better. My goal for this year is to try & crack a 13 sec run at the pod.
Have the cam/vernier out of Ashy's old Dd Autosports raider to fit. Will be pulling it to bits as soon as so expect some big updates soon:)
Matt Cole
10-03-2009, 12:52
:hump:And you can hump your bird in it all night too!:cooter:
Aye plenty of room for some action;)
Markey Mark (BD)
10-03-2009, 20:04
Nice to see my old Extra turbo on the strip too:D
That is having some engine work done at the minute so you might be having a rivel chacing a 13's in an Extra too;)
you`ve done a really nice job on that matey! give yourself a pat on the back :agree:
Rob@Backyardracing
10-03-2009, 21:04
:smokin: Awsome van, looks so Cooooooollllllllll :agree:
Love this van :D ...seen it at FCS last year :smokin:
Alastair
10-03-2009, 22:42
As they say in Devon, 'tis a Proper Job. Love it :agree:
What colour are the winter williams wheels sprayed in? Theyre luuurvly.:cool:
As they say in Devon, 'tis a Proper Job. Love it :agree:
What colour are the winter williams wheels sprayed in? Theyre luuurvly.:cool:
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=2231
:):D
you might wanna check how much the cam compresses the piper springs before you torque it all up....
top work there brigsy:agree:
i think you've made me decide what to buy to carry my dog around in:) fecked off with his muddy paws all over the mercs interior:sad2: this way i'll still have c1j or b18ft power.:D
You make me laugh Raj :laugh: One minute you're telling us how you hate the C1J and you need to go Jap, and the next you're planning a new project so you can keep some C1J powered Renault in your life :p
you might wanna check how much the cam compresses the piper springs before you torque it all up....
coilbound isnt a good thing then?
Cheers all. I recommend this conversion to anybody, so much fun on the road:D
Ill check the piper springs out at full lift when i get the cam in Sparkie, see if there coilbound. Its a bit of a learning curve fitting this cam, Ive never fitted a hot cam in any engine. Should be fun & games..:)
You make me laugh Raj :laugh: One minute you're telling us how you hate the C1J and you need to go Jap, and the next you're planning a new project so you can keep some C1J powered Renault in your life :p
hahaha yeah I was thinking that too! Last rebuild thread Raj, you said you were done with the C1J!
You just cant get enough! :crush: :laugh:
Cheers all. I recommend this conversion to anybody, so much fun on the road:D
Ill check the piper springs out at full lift when i get the cam in Sparkie. Its a bit of a learning curve fitting this cam, Ive never fitted a hot cam in any engine. Should be fun & games..:)
I must say Brigsy, it does look lovely, and I do crave to do one at some point! And it has a degree of practicality to it, when you want to carry stuff about, or turn it into a mini camper van (which is probably what I'd do :laugh:)
You make me laugh Raj :laugh: One minute you're telling us how you hate the C1J and you need to go Jap, and the next you're planning a new project so you can keep some C1J powered Renault in your life :p
i slapa your face:cooter:
yes i do want to go jap as my main car:agree: but id also like the idea of using an turbo extra van to car the dog around in and use for general sh1tty work without having to worry about damaging it:agree: nothing im planning on doing anytime soon thou
hahaha yeah I was thinking that too! Last rebuild thread Raj, you said you were done with the C1J!
You just cant get enough! :crush: :laugh:
its true lol, ill always like the c1j for its simplicity. its just lately all the little issues have been whinding me up:sad: 1 after another! the cars up and running now though:smokin: just can get it out the flappin garage as the garage doors broke:brickwall:
MR TURBO
10-03-2009, 23:50
How hard was is it to swap from diesel to petrol engine???
do the r5's wings,headlamps,indicators,grill and bumper fit on the extra van.? i only ask as im sure ive seen one somewhere but i forget where:scratch:
Haz (and maybe Scoff as well?) built one a while back in blue, but I think they scrapped it in the end. I'm not sure whether it was just swapping the panels, or whether further work was involved.
Haz (and maybe Scoff as well?) built one a while back in blue, but I think they scrapped it in the end. I'm not sure whether it was just swapping the panels, or whether further work was involved.
That was Haz's, It was volvo turbo powered through. Funny ending to that, he started a pick-up conversion, we had a GTT roof installed, bulkhead, rear panels and a smooth tailgate inplace. In the end there was way too much blending and filler work and no one had the time anymore. it got weighed in :p
Derv to petrol was easy. I retained the derv tank & wiring harness.
To fit the normal car r5 front end the slam panel has to be changed as its different. Too much effort for me with my lack of welding/bodywork skill:cry:
As for practicality, ive had it filled to the roof a few times, its an ideal workhorse. Its a little bouncy when on the bumpstops :laugh:
if its the cam out of the DD autosports raider, then its pretty hot. im sure i Glen told me it was a 282 or something like that. not sure of the lift though, but i do remember him telling me that on his old 11, he had the spring pedestals machined down to allow for extra lift. if he continued the theme on with the raider then you might have to end up doing the same.
the difference in the engine will shock you when you get it running.
also be aware the brakes might feel slightly worse, as the cam will not produce the same vacuum as a standard cam.
Ill look into that :agree:
Ive been looking on the cam wizard, my cam has peak valve lift of 9.49mm at 112deg, compared to a piper 285 that has 9.955mm @ 110deg. Does the usual piper 285 need the pedestals machining?
you will be fine with the piper springs! :) you only need to worry when you get to 10.8mm of lift.... :cry:
dave j gtt
11-03-2009, 14:23
[quote=Brigsy;51084]A few vids of it in action, Santa pod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhNROKsqg0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUGoh9nApw
On the rollers at motorscope, 161hp fly, 146lb torque.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8UMRU8tws
That brings the thread up to date. Ive just been servicing & generally driving it everywhere with no faults.
Anyway i have gathered a few parts together in the goal for more power & generally make the engine breathe a little bit better. My goal for this year is to try & crack a 13 sec run at the pod.
Have the cam/vernier out of Ashy's old Dd Autosports raider to fit. Will be pulling it to bits as soon as so expect some big updates soon:)[/quot
Are you going to try the spoiler on the roof crack to see if it will help flow air over the steped roof, different day different time with the van :scratch:, if you go out and theres a strong head wind, It would feel a bit like its loaded to the roof :laugh:
Started the stripdown tonight, Hour & half & only the shafts left to remove then out it comes.:) Forgot how much space there is with slampanel off!
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LukeRobbo
18-03-2009, 01:43
Ace van enjoyed seeing it at nationals day and the motorscope rolling road
Forgot how much space there is with slampanel off!
i was actually thinking about doing this to the 5! chop the slam panel at both ends and then bolt it back on! at least you can take it off to gain better access. :)
i was actually thinking about doing this to the 5! chop the slam panel at both ends and then bolt it back on! at least you can take it off to gain better access. :)
Yeah that seems a good idea. My colt has a bolt on slam panel.
Well its been a productive night down Pmt secret lockup deep in the north east...
Engine ooot
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Stripped down to bare block/head, Now the fun begins fitting the new bits;)
phase i 16 v turbo
20-03-2009, 08:31
Yeah that seems a good idea. My colt has a bolt on slam panel.
Did the same to my 16v Phase I turbo. Makes life alot easier!
Rob@Backyardracing
20-03-2009, 20:09
Good progress mate :agree:
Come on, hurry up ;)
best-van-ever :agree:
Well cam is in finally, block/gearbox all painted up too. Cam timing has tested my patience earlier, had to dig out the old David Vizard book to get my head round it! Tomorrows job is to put it right, going to start from fresh :laugh:
On the plus side the mating face on the original head is mint. The original headgasket was in a1 condition, pistons are det free. My carb setup can't be too bad:)
Ive noticed the timing chain cover won't go fully home with the thicker vernier, Whats the best way around this, thinner washer?
Also one of the bolts rounded off on the vernier, Had to drill the bloody thing out which was fun.
Got some good pics of it coming together anyway, will update tomorrow.
no matter what brand of adjustable vernier you use,they all seem to have the same issues with bolts rounding off/not tough enough.:scratch: and for that reason alone ive never used one.
Aye, vernier is essential for correct timing though. Im more annoyed the cover won't fit back on. Its a bufty chrome one, So ideally dont want to hammer it:mad:
Rob@Backyardracing
22-03-2009, 01:08
Whats the timing like on OE pulley? The only method i think most peeps have done is bash the cover out.... :crap:
thinner washer and grind the head of the cam bolt thinner.... ;)
Andrew Cooke
22-03-2009, 09:44
I run a cork gasket on the timing cover - never had a clearance problem..
Did you make your own gasket Andy? Im sure i read somewhere on the old site theres a cork gasket for the n/a c series lumps..
If not its grinder time & different washer:D
elring bottom end gasket set....
Good crack, Do gsf stock that set Sparkie? :)
Well cam is timed up now, Cracked it straight away with help from the David vizard book. I think i had spent too long on it yesterday to even see where i was going wrong!
Timed the cam up to 113 deg, 1 deg adv as chain is new. I took this as correct off the cam wizard as i have no info for the cam.
Sump is back on, have changed it for the ph1 baffled sump with breather pipe. The original sump is baffled too:cool:
I have also refitted the sump before the timing chain cover, It looks like it will be fun fitting the seal on the chain cover now. The original one off the engine didn't have the rubber seal, only thixo between sump & cover. Im tempted to do this on new one.
A few pics of this weekends progress. Hoping to have it up & running this week :)
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Good crack, Do gsf stock that set Sparkie? :).
there are no sets of anything currently at main warehouse. the delivery is due this week? might not be elring though. if its corteco/meillor then it definately will not have that gasket.
the payen bottom end set i used on a mates car had the cork timing gasket.
Matt Cole
22-03-2009, 23:40
Briggsy, i had no clearence issues with the piper vernier and piper cam. Any motor factors can get you a cork gasket from a n/a 5.
Ideal ill see what i can sort out today. The cover is only a mil or so off now as ive fitted a thinner washer.
Got some new low cap head bolts for the vernier pulley from my local fasteners today, they take a slightly bigger allen key but identical bar that. The lad that works there said the original one was cheap european s***e :laugh:
Checked the head lastnight & it needs 3 valves lapping in as there not sealing. Tonight's job..
Also whats the best way to remove stubborn carbon deposits off the valve heads. Ive got the rest of the head cleaned up nicely with some petrol bit the carbon seems hard to shift.
Andrew Cooke
24-03-2009, 13:30
but late here...
Cork gasket from Renault.
isn't 113deg 1 deg retarded? or are you timing the exhaust?:scratch:
I usually clean valves using a wire wheel on a bench grinder, just try and keep away from the seat.
Im no expert on cam timing to be fair Andy, from a quick search on the net i have got it wrong yet again :laugh:
What should i be aiming for with new chain fitted..111deg or?
Cork gasket is on order should be here today.
Also whats the best way to remove stubborn carbon deposits off the valve heads. Ive got the rest of the head cleaned up nicely with some petrol bit the carbon seems hard to shift.
on the really hard deposits i know someone who puts the valve in a drill and rotates the valve against an old angle grinder disc.....apparently it fetches it all off.
youngscottie
24-03-2009, 21:37
on the really hard deposits i know someone who puts the valve in a drill and rotates the valve against an old angle grinder disc.....apparently it fetches it all off.
works everytime:agree:
Used a wire brush on a drill in the end, worked fine the petrol must have loosened it. I cleaned the seats etc by popping the valves in a bottle of coke, shifted the bits no bother!
Head is complete now, all valves lapped in & springs fitted. Forgot how much of a crap job it is to do, At least its right. On with the build up next, can't wait to get it back up & running:)
Head back on. Ive binned the valve stem oil seals as a couple were in bits...Hope the valve guides aren't too worn, Valves fit nicely so fingers crossed..
What clearances should i be using for tappets with this cam, Standard .20/.25 ok?
A couple of pics from last Thurs, No updates as ive mostly been spending my life savings watching the england game at wembley over the weekend...
Engine fully assembled & blinged up...
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One of my mates polished the alternator:cool: Saves me some graft...
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looks good mate , your cracking on anyway , when do you plan to drop it back in ??
brigsy i'll have to slap you if you dont at least clean that carb up! tiz abit of an eye sore and sticks out a mile amongst the blingy bits.
also what alternator is that?
brigsy i'll have to slap you if you dont at least clean that carb up! tiz abit of an eye sore and sticks out a mile amongst the blingy bits.
also what alternator is that?
You have issues. I bet your 5 is so clean you could eat your dinner off it. Literally.
Im going to get the dremel on the carb raj, it needs a spruce up like:D Alt is standard valeo as far as i know, just the one i fitted when doing the conversion.
Hoping to get it dropped back in this week, Full day session tomorrow. Will start by grinding this engine mount off....
Ive got myself a blue hose kit from Unstablecable to fit :agree: Thinking i should have went black now though...
Ive got myself a blue hose kit from Unstablecable to fit :agree: Thinking i should have went black now though...
Funny that - I got a black one and kind of wish I'd bought blue now. Maybe a swap is in order?
If your up for that we have a deal mate:)
I'll have a think mate. Did you order the boost hoses too?
No bother mate, let me know if your interested. Ive only got the coolant/breather hoses as i have custom boost pipework for my grill mount ic.
Got the crap job out of the way this afternoon, removing the derv engine mount from o/s inner wing. Forgot how much i hate bodywork/grinding. Its turned out pretty good for rattle cans, not concours but functional due to loads of bare metal.
Next job is get the flywheel/box back on, Then get the lump dropped back in.
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Rob@Backyardracing
30-03-2009, 22:17
Good work lad :agree: be rolling soon.....
Had a spare couple of hours tonight so popped the box back on & dropped the lot back in. Going to crack on next week & hopefully have it running for bank hol weekend.
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dangerous dave
02-04-2009, 23:29
looks cracking sat in there......:smokin:
THE MASTER
03-04-2009, 02:31
i slapa your face:cooter:
yes i do want to go jap as my main car:agree: but id also like the idea of using an turbo extra van to car the dog around in and use for general sh1tty work without having to worry about damaging it:agree: nothing im planning on doing anytime soon thou
splattered dog all over ther inside of the rear doors :cartman:
great work mate , soon be finished on the road this weekend then ??
Peter Ciganyik
03-04-2009, 15:14
Greate job this is nice Van. Good luck
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Looks great mate :) Fantastic job. Will be burning rubber soon:burnrubber:
Getting there now, Only drivers side shaft, rad/coolant hoses, i/c/piperun & ht leads left to fit. Should be running on thurs night if all goes well.
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Did you get it running mate ?? u didnt clean that carb tut tut:)
Got bored trying to polish the carb, ill get a spare one bead blasted:)
Had fun with coolant spewing out the head, I left the dodgy plate off the underside as i werent 100% happy how the h/g fitted with it. I only realised that the bolts threaded into the water jacket on the head, that were fun refitting them on the car!
Had it running lastnight, Started first go. Got it to idle at 1k its quite rough though. Shoud it idle fairly good with this cam?
Dont know whether its me or not but the exhaust sounds mega loud now. Test drive this morn if all goes well!
Andrew Cooke
10-04-2009, 10:39
idle will be pretty rough with that DD cam, similar to the original Kent RT200@106deg.
Rob@Backyardracing
10-04-2009, 13:37
Good progess mate :agree:
Well have messed about with the dizzy & got it running better at lower rpm's. Had it idling at 800 earlier but the whole van rattles:laugh: So have settled for 1k.
Ive noticed there's less vacuum on idle now, Making it breath a little more than it used to. The engine seems so much more responsive even at low boost, might get the wideband on it & do some tuning tonight :)
Shady video if it running/idling here, a lot louder now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDoHs1SPts
Some pics of it back together, took on my shady point & shoot cam as my dslr is down the lockup.
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pascal-GT
10-04-2009, 17:21
very good job:agree:
the engine is very nice:cool:
Big Steve - Raider
10-04-2009, 18:31
:niceone:
Took it for a decent run out tonight with the wideband on, Goes very well. Kept the boost at the same level for now 16lb manifold, will pull to 7200 in any gear.
Im having fuelling problems though, carb needs attention. Im gonna have to pull it to bits as no matter how much i adjust the mixture it will only stay rich, low 12s. the mixture screw is working fine though, It will only make it richer now.
Infact the fuelling is rich in all situations now. Before fitting cam the fuelling were bob on though:scratch:
Idle low 12s
Cruise 10-12
Wot 11.9-12.0.
The Jetting is 1.2 main, 100 a/c, 1.3 2nd stg & i have previously took the idle jet out to .45, 2mm needle jet. Venturi is stock 25mm..
Piped up the breather system better earlier, Modified the asi hoses to suit, much better now. Also fitted my alloy carb top off unstablecable with one port, Fantastic bit of kit for the price!
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Standard idle jet will bring the idle mixture back up I bet. maybe you had an air leak with the old engine ?
The fueling will change with the new cam mate. I would have expected (hoped) it would get leaner than before at higher RPM's - that would suggest it's breathing better. Did you compare high RPM afr ? I'd be suprised if it wasn't a bit leaner above 6000rpm than before :)
It is slightly leaner at top, With std cam it used to be 11.7 all the way now its 12.0 mostly, Needle jet is 2mm as i were emptying the bowl on stock cam in 4th!
Tested it to 7200 in 4th tonight, fuelling were as near as all the way:)
ill get a stock idle jet in there tomorrow, There's a black patch appearing on the sill above the exhaust already:laugh:
Std idle jet done the trick, got the afr to a reasonable level at idle 14.5ish. Starts/idles a lot better!
Have set the idle at 900 ish, Got sick of the throttle plate staying open slightly with it higher, giving erattic idle speeds between 1000-1500. Sounds rough on idle but it stays running so will leave it be.
Andrew Cooke
11-04-2009, 13:45
have you done anything to brace the "Christmas tree" turbo oil feed? I'd be worried about it snapping off the union at the bottom.
Andrew Cooke
11-04-2009, 13:49
btw, I don't know what you set your tappets to, but you might want them a bit looser with that cam, 0.3 probably, but maybe even as much as 0.4mm.
who else on the forum has an extra van?
have you done anything to brace the "Christmas tree" turbo oil feed? I'd be worried about it snapping off the union at the bottom.
Looks a mess doesn't it :laugh: Its been like that for years on my gtt, Not ideal but its still hanging in there. Next months job to sort it out my funds are low.
Tappets are set at .20in/.25 exhaust. Ill admit i know sod all about hot cams, So just kept the settings std. Should i do both in/ex the same? .30?
Tim Biggs has an extra van too Kenobi, Marky mark's creation. That & haz's old van give me the inspiration to do the conversion:)
Looks a mess doesn't it :laugh: Its been like that for years on my gtt, Not ideal but its still hanging in there. Next months job to sort it out my funds are low.
Tappets are set at .20in/.25 exhaust. Ill admit i know sod all about hot cams, So just kept the settings std. Should i do both in/ex the same? .30?
Tim Biggs has an extra van too Kenobi, Marky mark's creation. That & haz's old van give me the inspiration to do the conversion:)
I think they are amazing, yours looks ace mate. Hardwork I bet.:agree:
I want to find one ready done for sale.
I love this van. I actually am in love with it.
Std idle jet done the trick, got the afr to a reasonable level at idle 14.5ish. Starts/idles a lot better!
Have set the idle at 900 ish, Got sick of the throttle plate staying open slightly with it higher, giving erattic idle speeds between 1000-1500. Sounds rough on idle but it stays running so will leave it be.
I'm not suprised you're having trouble with the idle on that cam mate, I always had trouble getting it to fire when it was hot... I asumed it was because of overlap on that cam!
I bet it feels loads better top end compared to the standard setup?
Aye it goes well now Ashy, pulls all the way round! It is a bit funny to start up like. Still having problems getting the idle mixture right, Going to change the mixture screw as its not doing a lot.
Andrew Cooke
14-04-2009, 12:25
you'll probably have to idle it in the high 13s. I'd do it by ear and ignore the gauge.
:agree:
Well looks like ill be pulling it to bits again this weekend. Since putting it back together there has been oil mixing with the coolant in the header tank :crap: Not a lot but i can't ignore it. Been monitoring the situation & done a couple of hundred miles & its only getting worse. Im assuming the head is cracked...time to get the original sorted. Shame as its running pretty well..
Matt Cole
14-04-2009, 13:47
**** mate. you sure its not the rad?? Might be worth a sniff first to determine its the head.
The rad is nearly new, Can only be the head as that's the only thing different from last time apart from cam. Oh well can't complain as it were free..
Andrew Cooke
14-04-2009, 13:55
don't write off the possibility that a nearly new rad is faulty.
You need the 'turbokiller' to explain about sleeving the head.
The rad were fine before swapping the head though. Is it an easy job to sleeve the head? Just weighing up the cost of sorting it out, As the original head needs quite a bit of work to bring it up to scratch.
Andrew Cooke
14-04-2009, 15:24
The rad were fine before swapping the head though. Is it an easy job to sleeve the head? Just weighing up the cost of sorting it out, As the original head needs quite a bit of work to bring it up to scratch.
you'll need to quiz Sparkie, but from memory it was pretty straightforward.
i got a local back street old guy to do it for me.
he basically drilled it out, and glued a brass tube up the centre of it. - a really good job too :)
Sounds pretty straightforward, Ive got a machinist mate who might be able to do this for beer money:) Needs to be cheap this whole job has emptied the kitty!
dodgeram2500
14-04-2009, 20:51
First post!
nice van!! i'm curious though.. how did you get the williams wheels to fit on the rear? i'm sure when i tried some reno 19 16v wheels on a few years ago they wouldnt fit i opted for reno 5 turbo wheels which went on but still only have about quarter of an inch clearance between tyre and inner arch..
Im using 6mm spacers on the rear with the willy wheels as there 7j, Still pretty tight though. The turbines fit ok without spacers:)
In the long run i may fit a gtt rear axle, As the track is wider than the drum beam & that would sort all the problems out.
Well had a fail tonight, Guess the fault:D
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/Jessop_bucket/Brigsy%20VAN/IMG_0791.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/Jessop_bucket/Brigsy%20VAN/IMG_0794.jpg
R5GTTRaider
16-04-2009, 00:17
head gasket??
oo oo whats the prize :yeah:
I would have drove it back with duff headgasket;) Next...
R5GTTRaider
16-04-2009, 00:30
rad blew?
Wheel bearing has gone on o/s, Disc is catching the caliper badly when turning.
Wheel bearing has gone on o/s, Disc is catching the caliper badly when turning.
Good to hear it's nothing to do with your fresh engine :)
Yeah its not all bad:)
Just ordered myself another R11402:laugh: Going to whip the head off tonight to refit the original this weekend to cure my oil/water mix. Found somewhere that will sort out the dodgy plughole for a decent price so its all good.
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Glad to hear that it was not engine related :eek:
you not i the AA? or have they called in a subbie?
Greenflag, Subby for them. The place that picked me up are based 5 mins down the road, took about 20 mins & i was back home talk about fast service!
Found the problem tonight, Wheel bearing is fine but the o/s outer cv joint is obliterated. Think i killed it when i put me boot down off a roundabout & It span the wheels up :eek:
Got it in a million bits again, Took an hr & 1/2 to whip head off & strip the head fully, I love how simple these engines are:D
im sure it will be back together again mate , looks nice and clean mate:)
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:burnrubber:
Well its all back together now, Just can't get the idle right. It will idle when the mixture is rich with a bigger idle jet fitted, but wont have it with normal idle jet.
I did have it idling ok for a while on stock jet, mixture were spot on for about 30 mins now it wont have it at all:confused: All i can think is the 1 way valve is knacked to brake servo as there are no air leaks or owt. Mixture screw were working fine too then no adjustment...
Still no joy with idle, can only get it to idle happily with .5mm jet & afr's in low to mid 12s as the mixture screw wont lean it off anymore.
With the original .45 Jet the afr is always in the high 15- low 16, its missing the lot at that & generally not happy. There are no air leaks, I changed the 1 way valve as it were shot but a new one has made no difference.
Will i have to live with the idle super rich? I suppose i can get it through the mot test running rough if necessary but its not ideal.
I still cant work out how twice i have had the idle fine then it suddenly refuses to idle right :confused: Im assuming everything on the carb is working properly as it were fine before fitting the cam. Any ideas??
Sounds like you need to find an 0.47mm idle jet or you could play with the idle air corrector which is visible when you remove the top half of the carb body. It's a drilling in the cast that goes down toward the idle jet. Try using the standard idle jet and closing the air corrector up with a bit of thin wire fed down the hole to restrict it. I had to do this when I ran the twin carb setup, I ended up with a pair of 0.4mm idle jets (I think?) and wedged some wire down the air corrector holes then bent it under the gasket so that the carb top clamped it in place.
:agree: Ill give the wire trick a go, Sounds like just the job :)
Which hole do i need to fit the wire in? The hole with the brass insert goes to the idle jet? Ive fitted it in there & the hole that goes into the carb throat but doesn't seem to be making much difference either way. Its a bit of a pig to keep running when cold may even have to refit the choke flap to richen it up.
Ive got the idle afr's slightly better 15/16 which its sort of happy at but im running out of adjustment on the mixture screw. I have also found a .46 idle jet in an old carb but this has made little difference.
Been out doing a few wot runs tonight.
Carb spec is 25mm venturi, 120 main, 1.3 2nd stg, .90 a/c & 2mm needle.
16lb manifold on a 4th gear pull im seeing 11.7 all the way to 6800 then its leaning off slightly to 12.1 to the 7200 limiter. Im after upping the boost to 20lb manifold do i need to be taking the 2nd stage out furthur for more fuel up top? Ill have to check fuel pressure to see if the shady pump is up to the job too.
Matt Cole
21-04-2009, 13:11
How long are the WOT pulls for briggsy? You need to check for the bowl emptying. On mine with a piper 285, to rev to 7800 at below 12.0 afr had a 1.4 second stage. Funny thing was, it was a standard needle jet and never emptied the bowl??:scratch:
Im revving it to roughly 7200 in 4th mate, off the scale on the o.e rev counter. I wonder if the fuel pump is up to the job as i had to have a 2mm needle even with std cam as the bowl were emptying. The pump is as old as the hills like.
In frustration i have stripped the carb down fully today, The hole next to the mixture screw in carb base were blocked up so have carefully opened it back up. Also found out that the gasket that seperates carb body/base had some holes that weren't exactly in line so have fettled these to suit.
Im hoping this is the problem, Thinking back its always refused to idle with the std idle jet since i done the conversion. Going to fire it up soon fingers crossed eh as i feel like im clutching at straws.
Matt Cole
21-04-2009, 22:48
cool, let us know how ya get on!!
Idle is sorted now, got the afr/c.o to a reasonable level, Still rough but a lot better than before. Must have been the blocked up hole in carb base..
Swapped the main jet to 1.25 too. Have set boost to 18lb manifold, it will hold 11.9 all the way to 7k in 4th then it creeps to 12.1 on the limiter. Feel like im finally getting somewhere..:)
Rob@Backyardracing
22-04-2009, 17:45
Glad its sorted.... :agree: maybe you could go a touch leaner with the afrs? mite gain a hp or 2.... :)
Im thinking about upping the boost a touch more rob to lean her off a little. Just still a little concerned about the fuelling leaning off over 7k, I really need to get a fuel pressure gauge connected up to see if its starting to empty the bowl.
Also need to get an act gauge to monitor charge temps as im not sure how good this i/c really is. On the plus side for a van it feels quick, Can't wait to see what its capable of at the pod:)
Also on the subject of afr's, I usually set mine up when on my own. I had a mate out in the car & noticed the afr were leaner than on my own, Im assuming its because of more load/weight etc. Not sure whether i should keep in on the richer side or not as im usually 2 up.
Rob@Backyardracing
22-04-2009, 18:12
Bigs a gauge wont show if the bowl emptys but will show if you have good fuel pressure thoughout the load and rpm.. If you have and you still lean off then start looking at a needle. Upping the boost may premature the raising afr sooner.
But as you are enjoy it mate, :agree: its an awsome van....
Aye i meant i need to check fuel pressure as i already have a 2mm needle jet fitted, Had problems with bowl emptying in the past at 16lb with stock cam. I know its a bit of a how long is a piece of string question, but how much boost is a 2mm needle usually good for?
Rob@Backyardracing
22-04-2009, 20:58
Arr i see i missed a few posts... didnt know you was on a 2... as for boost with a 2mm i cant answer... to many things can vary that from regs to cams...
Give it a clean up today so took a couple of pics:)
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0048.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0032.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0065.jpg
thats one clean extra van for sure!!
:agree::smokin:
Matt Cole
01-05-2009, 13:46
Brigsy, i would be looking at ditching the oe fuel pump. Go with something with a little more pressure and flow rate, then at least its giving the 2mm needle a chance. The question i have always wanted to know is how much fuel the engine requires to run at WOT at a given boost pressure? I know all engine run different, but if we new we could work out the required flow rate and needle orifice size?
Do GTT wing mirrors fit on Extra van doors? Might be a nice touch in glacier white.
Looks awesome Brigsy :D:agree:
Do GTT wing mirrors fit on Extra van doors? Might be a nice touch in glacier white.
They are r5 car mirrors Trev, Should see the size of the extra wingmirrors there about twice the height:D
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Looking g:cool:od
Just read the whole thread.
Love the van mate :agree:
Adey aka Ewok
03-05-2009, 11:29
brigsy, was it your head at fault? the water oil mixing thing? i put a brand new oe rad in a week ago, went out to swap the turbo this morning and the header tank has a slight bit of sludge in, no running probs or anything? cba assed with a head swap like
Aye the ported head were cracked on mine adey, Refitted the old one & all is well. Mine looked like a cup of coffee had been poured in the header tank!
If you have just changed the rad & it has just started it might be at fault?
Adey aka Ewok
03-05-2009, 14:05
frothy coffee? yep will be swapping it off asap
has that had a respray? I cant believe how clean it is.
Well done on that mate its well nice.
The paintwork is original, It has a few a scabby bits but its 12yr old. the previous owner was a car valeter & it looks like its had a machine polish before i got it.
Took it down york raceway today for a few test runs before pod. As the surface isn't too good i knew i wouldn't break any records but i were more concerned about trap speeds.
Best run was 14.73 @ 100. All other runs were 14/15 sec with consistent 100mph traps. The cam/18lb boost must be doing the job:) No idea how much power ive gained but 10mph up on last runs at the pod.
Best run slip here.
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0088.jpg
Matt Cole
04-05-2009, 20:15
Thats looking like 200bhp matey which aint fekin bad for a mobile brick!!:D
Well done, good trap that for something as non-aerodynamic as an extra van :D
I remember Haz took his volvo engine out of his van and put it back into an R5 shell, his traps went up a couple of MPH.
Thats looking like 200bhp matey which aint fekin bad for a mobile brick!!:D
nah i got a 13.7 with 190bhp, i recon accounting for the poor aerodymics of the van, you've got 180bhp
Im pretty chuffed with it like, feel like im finally getting somewhere. Should be good for a 13xx with slicks fingers crossed. Kept it on road tyres today, no point fitting slicks at york.
Might up the boost a bit more before pod, really need to hook up an act gauge first as ive no idea how good this intercooler is.
what size wheels you on now?
full slicks on 13's and that fecker will fly
Im just gobsmacked at how much i want that van.
:)
Ive got 15" williams wheels on at moment with toyo's. Ill be digging out the 20" mickey t's for the pod.
Ive got 15" williams wheels on at moment with toyo's. Ill be digging out the 20" mickey t's for the pod.
I know for a fact with 13's mine would go a shed load faster, proberbly hit a 13 dead, you'll be in the 13 for sure with that thing, espically with slicks
nah i got a 13.7 with 190bhp, i recon accounting for the poor aerodymics of the van, you've got 180bhp
Wrong, you can't base HP guestimates on ET!
Wrong, you can't base HP guestimates on ET!
I'll get back in the cupboard then:denied:
Wrong, you can't base HP guestimates on ET!
Sauce? Aliens? im getting in his cupboard too.
Rob@Backyardracing
04-05-2009, 22:40
Well done mate...:agree:... hauling arse now for a van...:smokin:
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Well done mate :D Good trap speed. Im going to have to pull my finger out and get my van ready to challenge you :burnrubber::burnrubber:
Was hoping to pop up for this, many there?
Quality time mate, no doubt they will keep getting better ;)
Well the van ihas been running well touch wood.
Been trying to get the boost up a few psi before pod, Still emptying the bowl with 2mm needle jet @ 18psi at the manifold...
I were convinced the fuel pump was a little tired, not even sure if it were a gt turbo pump so have replaced it today for a gsf ph1 bosch job & no change. This annoyed me so i have found a 2.3mm drill bit & have successfully drilled a needle out to this size:eek:
It seems to be sealing fine on idle but have yet to test it on the road, tomorrows job. If i had more time before pod id be looking at trying a setup that fills the bowl from the main jet hole when on boost like Ave done.
The question i have though is how come the average gtt with a hot cam can get away with running more boost than i can with a 2mm needle? Im sure im not making stupid amounts of power yet...the only thing i can think of is that my boost gauge is a mile out & not reading correctly, Highly unlikely though:confused:
Matt Cole
27-05-2009, 09:29
It could be that lairy cam Briggsy. Lets be honest, its got good potential but needs the fuel back up for it. DD used an MF2 system with 2 auxilary injectors to get that thing to fuel at high rpm.
Aye possibly Matt, Ive had to alter the jetting quite a lot from old setup with this cam!
Ive always had the leaning problem with std cam/16lb boost, Had to up the needle to 2mm to keep the fuelling right. I get the feeling something isn't 100% on the fuel system but its all in good shape so who knows:crap:
Had a short drive with the 2.3mm needle in & seems to be driving as normal. Going to test it later, Fingers crossed eh.
Markey Mark (BD)
27-05-2009, 17:56
Just a thought mate, what the fuel lines like on the van? Are they the same size as the gt turbo or have any sort of restriction in them.
I found the fuel sender had a smaller diameter outlet on the top of my old van which restricted fuel supply, migh be worth checking.
I know not the same veichle but i found a restcitor in the fuel lines on a clio i was doing a conversion to, might be worth tracing the fuel lines back to see if your van has one
Ive got 8mm copper fuel lines on the van. Still using the derv sender unit, the pipe o/d is the same as the gtt, but as for the inside who knows ill have to investigate.
Well the 2.3mm needle didn't work, lasted about 5 miles then started ovefilling the bowl. Comedy black smoke out the sidey & wetting the plugs in a petrol garage, Great fun:cry:
It did sort the leaning problem though. Ill have to look at other options to cure the problem.
Have rejetted the carb slightly & the afr is flat 12.1 - 12.2 @ wot until 6800 in 4th when it starts to lean off as bowl emptys. Going to leave it be until after pod as ive had no end of little problems with the carb tonight. Itching to up the boost too im sure there's more power in the current setup.
Good luck for tomorrow. can't wait to see what time you can do. Shame I can't be there:cry: Anyway have fun:)
Adey aka Ewok
28-05-2009, 09:08
how about a 2.1 or 2.2 mm needle? think i might be going down this route soon, or even a single injector setup, tho have been looking into a ave style single solonoid to top up the carb from the 12mm nut
Dan O'Neill
28-05-2009, 09:17
It could be that lairy cam Briggsy. Lets be honest, its got good potential but needs the fuel back up for it. DD used an MF2 system with 2 auxilary injectors to get that thing to fuel at high rpm.
Surely this would cure the fueling problem, MF2 controller would make it alot easier to get fuel to the carb when needed wouldn't it, if im wrong please correct me as Im still learning about tuning these engines, My mate has got one on his 5 and it doesn't seem to hard to install.
Mf2/injectors would have to be last resort for me, It would give me little gain imo & the cost issue. Ive got the fuelling bang on with the jetting as it is, just need to stop the carb emptying.
Are there any 2.1/2.2 needle jets available off the shelf Adey? If i can find a drill bit ill have a crack at drilling one. If not ill definitely be having a go at filling the bowl from the base.
The other alternative is to up the fuel pressure a psi or 3, or as high as you can go (at idle) before the float is forced open.
Yeah that's got to be worth a look. Are they any regulators i can get off another car to try to keep cost down?
Not that I know of mate. Most, if not all, efi fpr's will be set at a ~3bar base pressure, and there's not that many other carb'd turbo engines to sniff around for an alternative solution.
I had an adjustable Malpassi fpr from FSE on my old raider, and it didn't cost that much moolah - FPR009 was/is the part number, and FSE will sell direct to joe public.
[quote=Brigsy;73123]Mf2/injectors would have to be last resort for me, It would give me little gain imo & the cost issue.[quote]
Still got mine if you're ever in the market!
TNT!hammond
28-05-2009, 13:12
Brigsy are where are you taking reference for the fuel pressure ? I was told if you take it from the comp housing it will give you a little more pressure , think it was maybe rob or scoff?
Ive got the ref pipe plumbed into carb top, will give that a go:agree:
TNT!hammond
28-05-2009, 13:59
worth a shot mate and its cheap to do ;), have you checked you fuel pressure at all though? may not be the refrence thats your problem maybe it the reg . just a thought thats all :)
Andrew Cooke
28-05-2009, 14:09
Yeah that's got to be worth a look. Are they any regulators i can get off another car to try to keep cost down?
big vice, hammer :laugh:
Mf2/injectors would have to be last resort for me, It would give me little gain imo & the cost issue. Ive got the fuelling bang on with the jetting as it is, just need to stop the carb emptying.
Are there any 2.1/2.2 needle jets available off the shelf Adey? If i can find a drill bit ill have a crack at drilling one. If not ill definitely be having a go at filling the bowl from the base.
i got one but its a different size. if you chop the end off a std one an drill/tap it [as in like a sleeve/helicoil type arrangement] it will fit but i dont think i gained much. also tryed upping the fuel pressure a lil as mart said, worked ok cruising about but a good pull it jus flooded itself on gear change. guessing the fuel pressure didnt drop quick enough for the float to seal it ?
there is a way to keep the cost down.
i have a banjo (im not gonna use) that can fit into the 12mm nut in the float chamber base.
'T' off the fuel feed to the carb top into the feed into the float chamber base.
put a boost or throttle switch operated fuel solenoid (nos?) in the line.(or a PRV - which i also have ;) )
no need for big float chamber jets.
Matt Cole
28-05-2009, 21:03
Do we know what the flow rate is of the std pump? :p
Im actually driving to pod just to see this van.,
Dan O'Neill
28-05-2009, 23:56
Im actually driving to pod just to see this van.,
I'd love to see this van ive loved reading this thread.
Dan is that a Fix or repair daily in your photo?
Dan O'Neill
29-05-2009, 07:51
Dan is that a Fix or repair daily in your photo?
It is, untill I get my new car sorry :ashamed:
Matt Cole
29-05-2009, 13:20
60 litres an hour.
Do we know the volume of the carb float bowl? I'll try a quick calculation. Looking at it, the problem maybe the flowrate and not the pressure. Also the pressure drop through the pipework could be a factor.
superbe EXPRESS :niceone:
un amis a moi et en train de finir le siens (je mettrais des photos bientôt ;) )
:francais:
After lack of time/interest in working on the van (due to my daily breaking every 5 mins & life in general) im on a mission to get it sorted before national day.
I have replaced the aei for a 209d, moving it to the ph2 position behind bulkhead & renewed the tdc sensor for a new one as i had a major mis-fire after rockingham. Also have fitted heat protection to my tdc lead. This has sorted the mis-fire as it seems to be running well. Alos have fixed the rad fan as this failed on way back from fcs.
Jobs to do -
Sort brakes as quite a lot of pedal travel, Shoes need renewing on rear as very low when removing drums lastnight. Also going to change fluid.
Replace n/s rear wheel bearing its noisy, dont want that failing on gerrard's.
Reseal timing chain cover/sump, looking forward to that:mad:
Change oil/filter, Change dizzy cap/rotor arm. also going to change leads, ive been looking for a suitable angled replacement at cap end without joy so will most likely go for o.e boughicords.
Refit turbo after rebuild as it was starting to smoke on idle, Have removed it & in post to turbo developments as we speak.
Set up boost/fuelling, Going to drop boost down to a bar at mainfold as i want it to do more than 7 laps this year.
Also im going to lift the sender out of the tank, have had a few issues with idle jet blocking every 5 mins. Refitting the filter before the needle jet has sorted this but i want to investigate furthur. All was fine before rockingham so possibly dodgy fuel, who knows?
Started last night & made good progress, pics to follow:)
That's quite a list there fella, dirty hands for you for the next 2 weeks :D
It'll be good to see the van on the track again, it went really well last year :cool:
Brakes/wheel bearing are done. Had to replace the drum when doing wheel bearing as some numpty broke it:ashamed: Also painted the axle/drums black & reset the tappets due to boredom.
Jobs to do before n.d -
Reseal timing chain cover/sump, looking forward to that:mad:
Change oil/filter, Change dizzy cap/rotor arm. also going to change leads, ive been looking for a suitable angled replacement at cap end without joy so will most likely go for o.e boughicords.
Refit turbo after rebuild as it was starting to smoke on idle, Have removed it & in post to turbo developments as we speak.
Set up boost/fuelling, Going to drop boost down to a bar at mainfold as i want it to do more than 7 laps this year.
Also im going to lift the sender out of the tank, have had a few issues with idle jet blocking every 5 mins. Refitting the filter before the needle jet has sorted this but i want to investigate furthur. All was fine before rockingham so possibly dodgy fuel, who knows?
also going to change leads, ive been looking for a suitable angled replacement at cap end without joy so will most likely go for o.e boughicords.
do boughicords have the 90deg fittings at thr cap end? i too have been having trouble sourcing leads which have 90deg at the cap. i was hoping for a red set but looks like ill be going for boughicords too unless anyone can confirm where to buy some in red?
O.E bougi`s are straight at the end, not 90 degree :)
O.E bougi`s are straight at the end, not 90 degree :)
shat! well that ideas out the window now:sad:
Done all the jobs now & only got the fuelling/boost to set up again.
Need to whip the timing chain cover off & reseal it again though, i swear its leaking worse than last time even though i sealed it up really well. It must be the fully synthetic oil ive never had a problem with these in the past. Its really starting to test my patience now:mad:
Took a couple of pics of it this afty..
My co-driver testing the seating postion before mallory...
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0009-1.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0005-2.jpg
A few engine shots, A couple of subtle changes done. Also turbo has had a recon, Thanks to Adam L/turbo developments for a good job & quick turnaround.
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0013.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0016.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_0021.jpg
looking good brigsy :agree:
always also proper tone driving compartment :worship::francais:
Brigsy, a new OE header tank wouldn't go amiss ;) :D
If your after a adjustable fpr there are some brand new ones on ebay for a metro turbo. im sure these would work the same as the standard one.
Rob@Backyardracing
26-07-2009, 21:06
Looks awsome mate...:agree:
New header tank is in the pipeline Ricardo, Next time i drop the coolant ill get it fitted, the current one is a bit scruffy. Its the only part left off the derv engine!
Set the fuelling tonight, forgot how well it goes with a bit of boost! Set the boost at 1.1 bar manifold, a little high for track? might drop it down to 1bar.
Also have looked at my timing chain cover leak, The oil has decided to go under the bottom of the half moon seal/thixo joint, i used plenty of it & still leaking :mad:
Its as if the sealant hasn't taken to the sump even though the surface was really clean, i cleaned it all with brake cleaner to remove the oil...might key up the face of the sump a little next time.
A mate of mine that's a tech at skoda has some really good sealant that they use on the vag timing chain covers, might give that a go. For now ive bodged a load of thixo over the top as per last time, see if that cures it temporary for my trip down to usc.
brigsy, that thixo stuff is overrated:disagree:
ive had not one problem using sealant from the local motor factors, i believe its made by carplan or tetrosyl. costs about £5 for a big tube:agree:
looks to be a tidy purposefull engine bay, really like it :)
Time to drag this back to the top!
Had a bit of a mojo failure when the clutch went on the van before the rr day at motorscope! Dumped it in the lockup & havent laid a spanner on it for weeks.
Now the weather is a bit pants & ive stopped driving my gtt everywhere ive decided its time to get this sorted again.
The goal for next summer is to crack the 12sec barrier on the qtr mile. Hoping to up the boost a little with a couple of upgrades to make the most out of the current setup.
Jobs to do-
Fit ap 4 paddle clutch plate to replace broken valeo currently fitted (ordered today)
Fit my ctm 3.6kg flywheel.
Give the lump a once over if needs be.
Cure bowl emptying issue on carb, got a few ideas in pipeline.
Buy & fit bigger intercooler (i personally dont think current one is up to the job) Have ordered an Ian s charge temp gauge to monitor temps.
Buy & fit a zeitronix wideband gauge/logger to assist with tuning.
Buy & fit 1 piece downpipe/elbow.
Also may go for mappable ign & nitrous if funds allow. I can foresee my bank balance looking thin :laugh:
Rob@Backyardracing
01-12-2009, 19:59
:smokin: good man at the smell of NOS....
lend me some money pal , i need stuff like that lol keep it up :)
Good man Brigsy, give the van some love :D
Matt Cole
01-12-2009, 22:59
That van is effin awesome! Nice one briggsy!:agree:
Do the nitrous...you've got the blokes on here to point you in the right direction...Rob just above knows a thing or two...and about nitrous :cooter:
Rob@Backyardracing
01-12-2009, 23:12
Do the nitrous...you've got the blokes on here to point you in the right direction...Rob just above knows a thing or two...and about nitrous :cooter:
I have a bottle next to my bed, i hang clothes over it :D
Andrew Cooke
01-12-2009, 23:15
i Have A Bottle Next To My Bed, I Hang Cloths Over It :d
Lol
;)
I have a bottle next to my bed, i hang cloths over it :D
:wasntme:
Rob@Backyardracing
02-12-2009, 17:59
:ashamed: how wrong
New clutch is here & Big Jim downpipe, just needs a lambda boss fitting.
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_00041200x798.jpg
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/DSC_00051200x798.jpg
Nice mate.
Also, I like the green carpet. It means you wont see the sick after those Newcy Browns. :chuckup:
Cant beat a few bottles of brown Trev:D
Pulled engine out tonight, found the problem. I can only assume a few hard launches at the pod & epic wheelspin in 2nd gear when setting it up made it fail?
Spring was pointing out sideways on removal aswell thats how it came out. Made no noise when running!
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/Image0325.jpg
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Markey Mark (BD)
28-12-2009, 23:30
This is the season to be breaking clutch's isn't it! :D
Think thats the second or third in about a month thats been on here broken like that
Looks like a manufacturing issue to me. The plate with retaining rivets for the springs doesn't look like it did it's job.
The torque may have accelerated an already ****ed clutch :crap:
Possibly mate. Thinking back the springs had rattled for a few thousand before it finally gave in.
My valeo clutch last year died like that too as well as my ap paddle! :cry: I think something must be wrong with these clutches somewhere as I think marky b's mate killed a cltch like this too!
markey b
31-12-2009, 18:26
my valeo centre plate did the same, as did a friends of mine... maybe all the valeo ones for GSF were all hashed together on a friday afternoon!
Possibly, hope the ap plate lasts longer:scared:
All back together now, only a couple of small jobs to finish. Big thanks for kris m giving me a hand:D
Ai, no worries mate. Was a good laugh, nice to hear the old van running again. Be nice to see it doing to some good times at Pod in 2010 :agree::)
Removed bumper tonight to see how much room i have for a new i/c.
Maximum of 650wx500h is possible, 70mm core is no problem without chopping crossmember/bumper, so much room compared to a gtt. Hoping to get away with a bit of trimming of crossmember but mostly leaving it in situ.
A wise man once said to me you can never have enough intercooling so im going for the biggest that will fit ;)
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10061
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10062
Big jim downpipe is fitted, Very tight next to heater hoses, i have chopped them down as far as i can & theres only 10mm clearance tops:crap: Hopefully the heatwrap/scoff uprated rear mount will keep them in one piece..
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10064
New sticker to add to the collection in the back:D
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10065
Hmm, youre van has got me thinking...Ive got a spare engine doing fukc all & Ive always wanted a converted extra van :D...
My mums driveway is going to be rather congested :wasntme:
Looks good Briggles...BIG intercooler FTW :agree:
Get it done spooky:D
Looking at el cheapo ebay intercoolers, This one would probably do the job & fit well
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300380284418&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
But could probably squeeze this in without too much hassle, Need to double check width first though, i know 650mm was safe...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350301405971&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Anybody else know of anywhere that may be cheaper/better?
Rob@Backyardracing
22-01-2010, 07:21
What you need is some slicks :)....
rs250nut
22-01-2010, 08:23
I have a couple of big front mounts you could have for cheap. I get some measure ments this weekend if you like.
Measurements & pics would be ideal matey:cool:
If you still have the slicks come monday ill be in touch Rob:D
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
awsome van, always wanted to do one of these:agree:
New intercooler fitted, 600x300x75 core ebay special, should fit behind the bumper nicely..had ot loose the crossmember like:eek:
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10301
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10302
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10304
Next job is plumbing in pipework/refitting bumper, not long until its back on the road:)
dangerous dave
13-02-2010, 17:25
looking better than ever, some top work:cool:
Woznaldo
13-02-2010, 20:43
Loving the FMIC Brigsy!
Bumper cut & fitted, had to loose the slats, shame really as it doesnt look as discreet as before.
Getting there though finally:) Excuse the shonky phone pics, need to get some decent pics with my dslr.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10333
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10334
TrixNFlix
15-02-2010, 22:06
Wow, that intercooler is a great fit, looks custom made for your van. :agree:
Thought about painting the front of the intercooler to try and get it to blend in with the bumper?
Might give it a coat of black:agree:
Got blue samco hoses too, thought they were going to be hidden by the bumper:crap: ill have to pmt some black tape over:laugh:
TrixNFlix
15-02-2010, 22:23
Is the bumper grey or black? Can't tell on pics, you realy have fit the Intercooler well , realy does follow the contours well, looks oe fit. :agree:
You whimp, why didn't you buy a big intercooler:eek:
Is the bumper grey or black? Can't tell on pics, you realy have fit the Intercooler well , realy does follow the contours well, looks oe fit. :agree:
Bumper is an off grey colour, bit like the ph1 bodykit. Fitment was pot luck really, just turned out ok:)
Good old ebay measurements didnt help like, the advert said 700mm wide & it was 780 by my tape measure:eek:
TrixNFlix
15-02-2010, 22:45
Ha ha good old eBay. :) keep it up with the pot luck then, as it seems to be working rather well for ya. :agree::cool:
superb integration of tone intercooler!! :cool:
by hoping for one power day to see it meadows this express train :ujack::francais:
jesus in the seat of a 5
16-02-2010, 18:04
Might give it a coat of black:agree:
Got blue samco hoses too, thought they were going to be hidden by the bumper:crap: ill have to pmt some black tape over:laugh:
As usual briggs you allways think of what i was about to suggest before i say it...:agree:, looking good buddy....:agree:..:D
This has to be the coolest van ever, a credit to you! Very interesting build keep up the good work lad!!!
Rob@Backyardracing
16-02-2010, 19:21
Looks spot on :agree:
Piperun is mocked up, just need some more mikalor hose clamps. Roll on payday...
Took the long route, too tight near gearbox mount the chassis rails must be slightly different to the gtt. Hole was already there for pipe to go through no cutting req:cool:
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10371
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10372
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10373
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10374
Fitted my devil strut brace, thought it was a shame to keep it in the cupboard doing nowt..:D New header tank on payday too.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=238&pictureid=10375
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