Renault 11 F4Rt

[i l k e r]

Today I finally decided to bite the bullet and start the project R11 F4Rt.

After a little bit of cutting :devil: waheeyyy it fits :D

I don't know how long it's going to take me to get everything sorted everything but now I know that it fits the rest should be fairly easy :coffee:

here are some sneak previews;

[Os8472]

Nice, this should turn into a nice little project, should be interesting to see what it'd do on the track

[i l k e r]

can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get an inlet flange made out of aluminium?

[Andrew Cooke]

That has to be the most optimistic use of the word 'fits' ever :D

it'll be great when it's done, must be over a year ago that you sourced the engine?

[i l k e r]

That has to be the most optimistic use of the word 'fits' ever :D

it'll be great when it's done, must be over a year ago that you sourced the engine?


well if it's in it means that it fits :laugh::wasntme:

yeah it was 2008 christmas when I bought the engine and by the time I got it shipped and finished my army service and built a Gtt from scratch (phew) finally it's time :cool:

time moves on so quick Andy and I want to get it finished before I'm too old to drive it :wasntme:

[Andrew Cooke]

true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault :laugh:

[Os8472]

true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault :laugh:

What like every member on here who ever bought an R5 with the intention of keeping it standard:laugh:

[Mart]

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Great project mate. Good luck with it :agree:

[i l k e r]

true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault :laugh:


look to the bright side, it makes you a more skillful driver everyday :wasntme:

[i l k e r]

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Great project mate. Good luck with it :agree:


thanks Martski, looks like it's going to be fun :scared:

[Theros]

Seems to ve very interesting... it would be awesome to follow this one. Good luck! :)

[Matt Cole]

SQQQEEEEZE!! Just proves to me i would have had no effin chance with that box! Ilker, where is the rest of it??;)

[i l k e r]

SQQQEEEEZE!! Just proves to me i would have had no effin chance with that box! Ilker, where is the rest of it??;)


Matt, you're right there mate, that box is a big no for the Gtt.

well the rest? errrm, as soon as I figure out how do I go on about engine mounts the rest will follow pretty quick I reckon.

[i l k e r]

weapons of war :D

[Schakal]

ILKER , YOU SICK BARSTEWARD !!! :smokin::smokin:


while you are there ,may i suggest upgrading the whole suspension to
renault 19 16v stuff ??
:cooter:

[i l k e r]

ILKER , YOU SICK BARSTEWARD !!! :smokin::smokin:


while you are there ,may i suggest upgrading the whole suspension to
renault 19 16v stuff ??
:cooter:


I take that as a compliment, thank you :wasntme:

I'm running full set of Leda coilovers with ally top mounts and 300lb/ft eibach springs mate, so no worries there :D

[Schakal]

I take that as a compliment, thank you :wasntme:

I'm running full set of Leda coilovers with ally top mounts and 300lb/ft eibach springs mate, so no worries there :D



pics ??? :p:p:p:cartman:

[i l k e r]

just a little update, I decided engine was sitting to close to chassis legs on both sides and now they're both cut off :scared:

I removed two chassis legs off another R11 from a scrapyard and I will be welding them about 2 inches apart from the original locations.

If I fail the car will be pretty much useless and will be scrapped :sad2:

pics to follow soon.......

[Andrew Cooke]

you're crazy, there was loads of space, will it still steer? :laugh:

[tom t]

definatley looked like there was loadsa room :wasntme:

[i l k e r]

it looked like there was enough space, but once I aligned the engine in place there wasn't enough space to put bottom pulley on :crap:

I'm a very dangerous man with an angle grinder :devil:

[i l k e r]

will it still steer? :laugh:

I bloody hope so :scared:

I'm going for a full meggy 225 front end so fingers and toes crossed :)

[Kenny_GTT]

Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
Here's another pic:

[i l k e r]

Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
Here's another pic:


that engine looks like a 172 engine to me. Take a look at the cam pulleys :scratch:

[Matt Cole]

Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
Here's another pic:


Good luck!:eek:

[Andrew Cooke]

that engine looks like a 172 engine to me. Take a look at the cam pulleys :scratch:

nah, look at the oil filler cap

[i l k e r]

nah, look at the oil filler cap


I actually did. Those cam pulleys definetely not 225 items though.

Maybe he swapped the cams with 172 ones to get a wilder(n/a) profile, who knows?

[Scoff]

they are not 172 camshafts in the black car, they look like vernier's on the end of 225-fitment camshafts.

[Ashy]

Good luck with this, should be an interesting thread!! Be nice cruising about in a 225 R11 with 6 gears :smokin:

[i l k e r]

Good luck with this, should be an interesting thread!! Be nice cruising about in a 225 R11 with 6 gears :smokin:

thanks mate. Can't wait for that day :)

I've just won these on ebay:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220411054582

[TURBO'D CLIO]

Your location is cypres ?? and those brakes are collection only in birmingham ? :confused: Am i missing summit lol..

[i l k e r]

Your location is cypres ?? and those brakes are collection only in birmingham ? :confused: Am i missing summit lol..


contacts, my dear friend :smokin:

there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me :agree:

[hydrotec78]

contacts, my dear friend :smokin:

there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me :agree:

We like people like that :laugh:, good luck with the project !

[Andrew Cooke]

will you use a 225 subframe and steering rack? Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?

is there a Megane/Laguna with 5 stud 238mm rear disk? Or are they all bigger (checked, think they are all bigger) Maybe you can turn one down??

[i l k e r]

will you use a 225 subframe and steering rack? Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?

is there a Megane/Laguna with 5 stud 238mm rear disk? Or are they all bigger (checked, think they are all bigger) Maybe you can turn one down??


not sure what subframe/steering rack to use yet Andy. I need to get everything together and see what options I will have. it seems like full 225 setup will be easier to keep things near o.e setup.

I remember checking the rears and they are all bigger. I think I'll leave the rear end alone for the time being.

[TURBO'D CLIO]

contacts, my dear friend :smokin:

there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me :agree:

Get in, small world hey... Great project thou bud.. top job... :agree:

[i l k e r]

Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?




I have now. I love the way you point me in the right direction all the time :)

top darts chief :smokin:

lower models of the same shape have a manual rack which seems like the same overall dimesions with the 225 pas rack :agree:

[i l k e r]

update

both chassis legs have been cut and new ones welded in place to make more room in the engine bay :agree:

now I have all the room in the world to whack the engine in there :devil:

sorry about the crappy phone pics.

[i l k e r]

a little more progress, my Leda coilovers and Megane uprights machined to fit together.....

[i l k e r]

yuppiii!

my missing driveshaft got delivered today after months of hunting :agree:

just awaiting delivery on engine and gearbox mounts so I can secure the engine in it's place and then its all downhill for me :cooter:

watch this space ;)

[Jessop]

Looking good so far!

Do you know the spec of the ledas?

Are they sufficient for 300lb springs ?

Im looking at having mine revalved, although im dubious that GAZ [new owners] will do a good enough job ;/

[i l k e r]

right, driveshafts on and engine is roughly sitting in position;

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=394&pictureid=10433


this is roughly where the wheel will sit, it's about 3.5" wider and is sitting about 2.5" forward than the 11s std setup;

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=394&pictureid=10434

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=394&pictureid=10435

once I recieve engine and box mounts I'll secure the engine in its exact location and start working on the suspension setup :agree:

[Schakal]

looking sweet ilker , good job mate :agree::agree:
hoping to run it this summer then ??

[i l k e r]

looking sweet ilker , good job mate :agree::agree:
hoping to run it this summer then ??

cheers Evren :agree:

yeah that's the plan, but sometimes it's hard for me to get parts and delivery takes ages but yes hopefully I'll get it running in april-May :sos:

[i l k e r]

finally some progress :yeah:


the car is now sitting on it's feet with the whole Megane 225 setup.

I now need to fabricate some sort of a subframe where I can mount the wishbones and the streering rack on as the stock 11 subframe is not useable/suitable anymore :scared:

I will need a fellow member with a Megane 225 to get a measurement for me if possible. I need to know the distance between the rear locating bolts of the wishbones from side to side.

So anyone with a Megane 225 please help as there's none here that I can get measurements from :sad2:

so, it's good to see my beloved car on it's feet again :agree:

pics will follow as soon as I get some :agree:

[Schakal]

its about time you mad Turk :cool::cool:

get some pics up :cooter::cooter::cooter::cooter:

[i l k e r]

***update***

well after struggling with excessive negative camber with the Meggy 225 setup, the angle grinder had to come out to play :devil:

first I removed the strut tower getting it ready to be relocated, it had to move about 4,5cm outwards and about 2,5cm towards the front of the car to give me room for some caster adjustment:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=13911

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=13910

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=13912

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=13913

after lots of cutting and cleaning I relocated the strut tower to it's rough position and tack welded it to get some measurements. It looks like I managed to get what I wanted at first dibs, lucky if you ask me :wasntme:

result, this is the minimum camber I can get with lots of room to dial as much as negative camber one will ever want/need:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=13909

[i l k e r]

some more pics,

I removed the remaining panels that were in the way, it's now much easier to work with...


http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=14550


well, the engine is in, got enough room on the strut towers for camber/caster adjustment but now that everything is in place I can see that there's no room for a steering rack :sad2:

more head scratching needed :wasntme:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=14551

[i l k e r]

I may have to do something similar to this for a steering rack;


http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1130&pictureid=14552