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matt1334

11-09-2008, 15:31

Do renault still sell these? If not anyone know where I can get a pair from .
thx matt

chris_t

11-09-2008, 16:58

£50 or there abouts each from Renault

CGB sell them for £49.99 each too.

http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/raider-door-pillar-badge-608-p.asp

:cry::(:sad2::mad:

c7borg

11-09-2008, 17:09

I might have a pair to sell.. not sure what the second hand value is of them tho

I assume you mean the square ones that go on the door pillars

chris_t

11-09-2008, 17:25

I might have a pair to sell.. not sure what the second hand value is of them tho

I assume you mean the square ones that go on the door pillars

PM sent :eek:

Penfold aka The Dealer

11-09-2008, 17:54

Today i was in a local company who specialise in Custom Car Graphics...

Got talkin to the owner, turns out he had a 5 back in the day and has a full set ie: all colours of side graphics, the rear raider graphic... and the side door graphic...

I asked him if he was interested in making "copies" for us on here.... he said he will look in the warehouse and dig them out and go from there... be good if the club can sell good side graphics.

Gttnutter

11-09-2008, 18:05

Am i right in thinking the raider did not have the gt turbo side decals only the raider door pillar badges?

Mart

11-09-2008, 18:15

:agree:

finsta

11-09-2008, 18:36

Gttnutter

11-09-2008, 19:01

shoppers im after a rear raider graphic so let us know how you get on with that.;)

if theres a problem with this and it falls through i know marky mark has a rear raider screen with the letters still in place

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=79

chris_t

11-09-2008, 19:37

Penfold aka The Dealer

11-09-2008, 19:51

I will keep you all updated next week....

finsta

11-09-2008, 21:06

if theres a problem with this and it falls through i know marky mark has a rear raider screen with the letters still in place

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=79

cheers mate. is he going to nat day? i could do with a new rear screen too.

Gttnutter

12-09-2008, 06:54

cheers mate. is he going to nat day? i could do with a new rear screen too.

yes he is buddy:agree:

chris_t

30-09-2008, 20:43

Big Steve - Raider

10-01-2009, 15:51

Anyone else seen these on E-bay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-5-GT-Raider-Alain-Oreille-door-portes-logos_W0QQitemZ120360608416QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item12036060841 6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)?!

Might be worth organising a group buy???

J$£5GTT

10-01-2009, 16:35

Big Steve - Raider

10-01-2009, 16:37

how much ! :eek:

Yeah :eek:

Hence the thought of a group buy?!

J$£5GTT

10-01-2009, 17:21

Yeah :eek:

Hence the thought of a group buy?!

like there only gummy stickers,an its a sure thing
theres fuk loads of profit on there!!,i reckon we could
get some made up ourselves for way cheaper
:)

J$£5GTT

10-01-2009, 17:31

found somewhere have sent an email
to see what response i get
:)

Penfold aka The Dealer

10-01-2009, 17:45

If i had a set i can get copies made to same standards....

Anybody want to loan me some?

J$£5GTT

10-01-2009, 17:57

If i had a set i can get copies made to same standards....

Anybody want to loan me some?

im hoping to here back monday an see what they
say,sent them a picture an dimensions etc
:)

Penfold aka The Dealer

10-01-2009, 19:22

im hoping to here back monday an see what they
say,sent them a picture an dimensions etc
:)

Good man, let me know how you get on. :-)

J$£5GTT

12-01-2009, 19:56

Good man, let me know how you get on. :-)

had a reply today,they are more than happy to produce these but it would be on the condition that i have authority to replicate the logo,so just as i thought really,may take a few calls mails,but you know,
penfold what contacts do you have squire?
:)

blue mackay

15-01-2009, 17:43

had a reply today,they are more than happy to produce these but it would be on the condition that i have authority to replicate the logo,so just as i thought really,may take a few calls mails,but you know,
penfold what contacts do you have squire?
:)

hi there guys i have a friend that has his own graphics and sign shop,was speaking to him asim wanting him to duplicate the raiders graphics for the back window and door pillars!!
i will let you know when i get home from off-shore so will be 2nd week in feb.
will hook up with him and see what kind of quality he can do?
will also mention the side decals for the 5s!
there was a guy in the club that was doing them,think his name was ritchie,he had a sweet black 5,and a white h plate 5 with the 1.8 conversion,so if any of you know him maybe give him a shout as he may still be doing them??

dgdogz

17-01-2009, 23:16

hi lads
just an update to this
i found a uk based company willing to do these for me
problem is minimum of 100 each order
so realistically i need 50 names.
anyone on this?
i dont have a price yet as i just received the sample pack through the door.
i wanted to make sure they were good quality and beleive me they are.

anyone interested
guaranteed to be safer than the group buy from ebay
and 90% gonna be extremely cheaper than the price of £86 on ebay too

please post accordingly as id really like to get the ball rolling
d

Bigfoot

17-01-2009, 23:23

Pictures up and prices, but doubt you will get 50 people who are after them though unless they are top quality and cheap and people might buy a couple of sets just for spares if they might respray in the future.

dgdogz

17-01-2009, 23:26

as for prices im going to call them on monday...i was only asking now as i received the samples through this morning and they are amazing quality.
pictures arent really needed...they will be EXACT copies of the raider badges.
no difference at all.
im not 100% sure but are the original badges 39mmx33mm?
if anyone can confirm this it wld b excellent so i can have my sizes correct for when i call them.
http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/29/0a/fd2a_35.JPG

Penfold aka The Dealer

18-01-2009, 08:30

They do look good but i doubt you will get 50 different names...

dgdogz

18-01-2009, 08:33

ive contacted clee about possible purchasing the remaining stickers for the shop
im als gona post on some other sites...when i get a price itl be a bit better

d

jesus in the seat of a 5

18-01-2009, 08:52

ive contacted clee about possible purchasing the remaining stickers for the shop
im als gona post on some other sites...when i get a price itl be a bit better

d

GOOD WORK BUD ,good on you for doin so , they look mint, i dont have a raider {yet..:laugh:} so i wont be buyin any @ the mo, but i congratulate you on doing a fine job...:), maybe they could help with side stickers?....:D

dgdogz

18-01-2009, 09:38

cheers mate
they only do the 3d gum stickers there actually made from resin...what other stickers do the raider have?
with regards to the copyright/authority issues.
im not sure how it works completely but if there is so much as one alteration to the design ie...one part of the pattern being 0.05mm different from the original then im sure it isnt an exact copy
is it?
anyway...
ive had a reply from clee and im gona send a email right this instant to the company and see if i get a decent reply from them
if the price is cheap enough then i will just by all 100 myself and sell them over time.
i dont have a raider either but i was annoyed at seeing the stupid price tags on these littles things...maybe its for a reason or maybe its just for the thieving con artists who like to rip the pi5s.
infact can aynone confirm the exact size of the original item so i can have it bang on...im not gona mail them til i kno this so i can save some time.
cheers

finsta

18-01-2009, 14:27

im not 100% sure but are the original badges 39mmx33mm?
if anyone can confirm this it wld b excellent so i can have my sizes correct for when i call them.
http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/29/0a/fd2a_35.JPG[/quote]
i just went and measured my badges and they were 39mm/33mm.:agree:

dgdogz

18-01-2009, 15:55

some chappy
so i can pencil u in for a set then
:)

chris_t

18-01-2009, 16:12

some chappy
so i can pencil u in for a set then
:)

You can put me down for a set (maybe a couple of sets depending on price).

:smokin:

dgdogz

18-01-2009, 16:25

no worrysss
:)
does anyone know the exact placement of the badge on a raider
front door pillar???or next to rear window?

J$£5GTT

18-01-2009, 18:21

yeah duder that cat wanted mega bucks!!!!
id probly want a couple sets to depending
on cost,£86 was it....hhmmmm,what a rip off!!!
its only a resin sticker,im happy to pay a few ££'s
on top of postage for s'ones time/cost etc but not
that much !!!
:)

Gttnutter

18-01-2009, 18:29

no worrysss
:)
does anyone know the exact placement of the badge on a raider
front door pillar???or next to rear window?

It on the door pillar just about inline with the bottom window rubber or there abouts

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=32&pictureid=2752

dgdogz

18-01-2009, 20:03

cheers mate
i thought that was the spot but couldnt be sure
some man

Big Steve - Raider

19-01-2009, 08:55

Put me down for a set when the price tumbles! ;)

dgdogz

19-01-2009, 08:57

i emailed this morning requesting a price and size and what not
so heres hoping al have an email when i get home
::))

dgdogz

19-01-2009, 17:55

righty chaps
i have a figure
if i can get 15 names or more i will sell these at £29 a pair( 2 badges) this is including delivery.
if i get 25 or more sales or more i will sell at £17.50 inc delivery
theres is a one off setup fee which i have to pay so this is reflective in the price
if i get more names i will drop the price
also i will receive a pre production sample before they go ahead so i can check all is well

please....get the names down now as i want to place this order before the week is up if possible.
if anyone wants more than one set i will do a bulk discount.
:)
happy times

Big Steve - Raider

19-01-2009, 18:02

Big Steve - 1 Pair! :D

Bigfoot

19-01-2009, 18:12

Big Steve - 1 Pair! :D
Bigfoot - 1 Pair

chris_t

19-01-2009, 19:03

Big Steve - 1 Pair! :D
Bigfoot - 1 Pair
chris_t - 2 pairs :cool:

dgdogz

19-01-2009, 20:41

i need another 3 sets before i order them my self
:)

just an addition to this.
colours
could anyone who has a badge at hand please give me a perfect colour to work from?
possibly just load 2 plain blocks of colour to an image file and post it up so i can get it bang on.
one for the background and one for the triangular shape.
im not sur eif the background is black or blue as all i have to go by is another persons representation...and since i want them perfect id appreciate the help
:)
also for anyone with a badge are the badges metallic/glittery opposed to bein a solid block of colour?
thanks

GTTJAY

20-01-2009, 09:19

First post!

Big Steve - 1 Pair! :D
Bigfoot - 1 Pair
chris_t - 2 pairs :cool:
GTTJAY-1 pair

dgdogz

20-01-2009, 10:03

anyone got info on the colours???

RICHIE

20-01-2009, 22:28

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-5-GT-Turbo-Raider-logos-door-pillar-badges_W0QQitemZ120366361362QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1203663613 62&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

there cheaper than these:eek:

dgdogz

20-01-2009, 22:32

yeah mines will be cheaper than those
perfect quality with fast delivery
:)
i rattled up quick sketch of the badges to send away for a sample
is everyone happy with these colours
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/dgdogz/final-flat-dogz.jpg
http://rtoc.org/boards/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/dgdogz/final-flat-dogz.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
?
remember the final badge will have a metallic effect like the originals, round edge with adhesive backing
i also was told today
that they are scratch proof,shatter proof, colourfast, water resistant and have a non yellowing additive so they wont go all mingin after few years
:)

Penfold aka The Dealer

20-01-2009, 22:47

Hope they wont have DOGZ on them as i dont think many people will buy them lol

BriC

20-01-2009, 23:02

Hope they wont have DOGZ on them as i dont think many people will buy them lol

Read my mind :laugh:

Shane P

20-01-2009, 23:24

Are you sure they are not a little bit too bright?

dgdogz

21-01-2009, 07:35

no they wont have dogz on them!!!!!
:sad2:
ahahah
anyone else feel the colour is too much?
im gona wait til fri before i order...thats if im happy they are near enough bang on
d

chris_t

21-01-2009, 12:03

anyone else feel the colour is too much?
im gona wait til fri before i order...thats if im happy they are near enough bang on
d

I'd say they need to be a little darker although it could just be the brightness setting of my monitor :confused:

Bigfoot

21-01-2009, 12:29

Only way is comparing the two together to see how close the match is.

dgdogz

21-01-2009, 13:47

id rather have the correct colour before going to print
i dont think there way out to be honest but i will darken the blue down now that yo have said that
cheers folks
hopefully ill place the order tomorow
:)

Bigfoot

21-01-2009, 13:55

I thought they were giving you a pre-production sample that is where you can match the colour. when you recieve that also take pictures of it, rather see quality of the sample first before putting money ahead.

dgdogz

21-01-2009, 14:53

i know the quality is perfect its just the colour
i have samples of there quality here and they are 100% perfect
only minor thing is the colour
:)

MR TURBO

21-01-2009, 14:56

i know the quality is perfect its just the colour
i have samples of there quality here and they are 100% perfect
only minor thing is the colour
:)

Thats not perfect then is it Dogg!!! I'm sure you'll get it right fella :agree:

dgdogz

22-01-2009, 13:42

dont worry
i will
hahaha

matt1334

26-01-2009, 20:32

1 set over here if they can sort them
thanks

Edd

26-01-2009, 21:50

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Edd=1 pair please

As long as they don't have dogz in the background

;)

dgdogz

27-01-2009, 21:33

hello folks sorry bout the delay been mental busy with work
this is still on...im just waiting for them to confirm the design and the new colour change and its away we go

just a double check on the names

edd
matt1334
bigsteve
bigfoot
chris t x2 sets
gttjay
:)

chris_t

29-01-2009, 14:18

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 20:49

well paypal wouldnt have been great but i have been spared the burden of making these by the club
:(
basically ive been told not to get them done as the club are getting them made...not very helpful when ive wasted my time and others...aswell as my money for a production sample.
sorry to let you all down...not my fault
pretty annoyed about this...no warning...no discussion even after all the arrangements i made and time i spent looking into getting them done...emailing the company, getting them to change things to make them 120% perfect.

:sad2:

Big Steve - Raider

29-01-2009, 20:56

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 21:01

same mate...
kinda dissappointed in a sense

RICHIE

29-01-2009, 21:07

was the message from the commitee. mabe the club have a reason for suggesting they take over the group by im sure they will clarify it in this post. you did a good job though fella

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 21:17

yes from miller
to save me the outlay of me buying them and also the risk of not selling them...also he can get them cheaper and wil sell them in the shop.
didnt really seem acceptable tbh...what business or buyer doesnt take a risk when have somthing produced to an exact size/shape/colour/design/material????

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 21:18

yeah it was from miller
to spare me the outlay and risk of not selling them...he can get them cheaper and will sell them in the shop.

RICHIE

29-01-2009, 21:24

yeah it was from miller
to spare me the outlay and risk of not selling them...he can get them cheaper and will sell them in the shop.

i understand what miller is saying he could be doing you a favor they might not sell.mabe a pm to say the club was sourcing some wouldnt have gone a miss to save your time but sometimes these things get overlooked. dont take it to heart.

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 21:39

too late
its done now so no point in raffling on
dissappointed...thats about that

Miller

29-01-2009, 21:44

was the message from the committee. maybe the club have a reason for suggesting they take over the group by im sure they will clarify it in this post. you did a good job though fella

I would like to explain why the club has sourced these badges instead of djdogz, there are two main reasons: cost to djdogz and a better price to the members

Cost to djdogz
The club can afford to have these sitting in stock, but we think it would be unfair for him to pay out for the minimum order quantity (100). He offered them to the club at £15 a set (I assume that is the trade price he is paying) so with his min order of 100 @ £7.50 each that is a grant total £750 pounds. As you can see the potential for him to be out of pocket is very high, if he cannot sell the remaining badges that did not get sold on this thread.

Better price for members
After speaking to our supplier the other day, he has given me a quote that will work out a better buy for the members. The club will be selling them thought the shop for between £10-15 a set and that will also include a rear raider window sticker.

Also i have an original badge for them to match exactly, i am just waiting on a few close up pictures of the rear window sticker then we can complete the kits.

So IMO it will work out better for everyone.

Chris:)

dgdogz

29-01-2009, 22:12

my financial situation and bank balance aint really a concern for anyone on here.

you want stickers?....i got them...you like the price?...you like the quality?...yes please...no problem...heres your stickers...thanks mate...no worries mate.
job done
it would have went kinda like that

thers no need for financial breakdown.
people aggreed to the price...simple story simple ending.
its done now
:cool:

edit to the ending
thanks to the guys who placed ther name down...further apologies..but you can get your stickers in the club.cheers again

dgdogz

02-02-2009, 14:10

GREAT NEWS GUYS !!!!!!!!!!

After reading Millers response I agree we must ensure all users who want to buy get the best deal possible.

I have spoken with my financial backer who has gone back to the supplier and renegotiated a new deal based on the details you provided above.

We can now supply our users at £6 per set including postage and packing.

I'm sure we both want the same thing ... Value for our fellow forum members.

Based on we can now offer at 1/2 the price you negotiated we have confirmed the order and made payment to the supplier this afternnon. Delivery to me of the stock is confirmed to be 10 - 14 days so please contact me directly to confirm orders and payment daro@ukcanvas.com

Purple_rob

02-02-2009, 14:18

I have roughly followed this thread as my interest is in the reproduction rather than the product.

Even if Dgdogz is supplying them etc I think being available through the club shop would be a good idea/more exposure.

Well done on this though mate. Anyone who goes through this much trouble to benefit the club deserves a :agree:.

Just my 2 pence while I was reading :)

MR TURBO

02-02-2009, 14:33

dgdogz

02-02-2009, 16:09

cheers mate

Big Steve - Raider

02-02-2009, 16:39

E-mailed! :D

Glad you managed to come to an agreement with your financial backer :laugh: :wasntme:

:goodJob:

dgdogz

02-02-2009, 16:44

well the conversation made me want to get a better deal as miller said for the good of club members
so with a little help thats what happened
result
:)

J$£5GTT

02-02-2009, 16:47

I would like to explain why the club has sourced these badges instead of djdogz, there are two main reasons: cost to djdogz and a better price to the members

Cost to djdogz
The club can afford to have these sitting in stock, but we think it would be unfair for him to pay out for the minimum order quantity (100). He offered them to the club at £15 a set (I assume that is the trade price he is paying) so with his min order of 100 @ £7.50 each that is a grant total £750 pounds. As you can see the potential for him to be out of pocket is very high, if he cannot sell the remaining badges that did not get sold on this thread.

Better price for members
After speaking to our supplier the other day, he has given me a quote that will work out a better buy for the members. The club will be selling them thought the shop for between £10-15 a set and that will also include a rear raider window sticker.

Also i have an original badge for them to match exactly, i am just waiting on a few close up pictures of the rear window sticker then we can complete the kits.

So IMO it will work out better for everyone.

Chris:)

what about copyright infringement,or does it not matter?
:D

Big Steve - Raider

02-02-2009, 16:48

Just let me know when where how to send the money! ;)

Ian S

02-02-2009, 17:09

We can now supply our users at £6 per set including postage and packing.

That's a very big price reduction indeed.

Was there originally a very big mark up indeed?

Why the club wasn't interested in paying the asking price to put them in the shop was because the club was quoted a MUCH MUCH lower price by a manufacturer and it was assumed that the dgdogz price was MASSIVELY inflated. The committee do try to not get ripped off when buying items to sell in the shop. Doing otherwise would be a dereliction of duty. :)

matt1334

02-02-2009, 20:05

spot on pm me with the info and details on payment etc, think il have two sets now.

top job dude
:agree::agree::agree:

dgdogz

03-02-2009, 07:59

pmd u matey
:)

timefuse

03-02-2009, 22:10

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Hello to everyone and excuse me if I may sound a little bitter but the circumstances and some posts that I have read here are far beyond logical thinking and too misleading.

First of all let me clarify some facts regarding the subject you name as "Raider badges" and a brief introduction of my profile and love for renaults, since I am a returning member and not a new one like you see.

Fact 1:
2000 Alain Oreille cars were produced worldwide and RHD 5's ones were only the 1/5 of that figure.

Fact 2:
This was a limited edition version of the car that is EXTREMELY difficult (if not impossible) to see in our streets, unmolested and perfectly preserved, in order to know exactly what we are discussing about.

Fact 3:
Many of us have a crush on the specific model, eg me and my brother own 2 of them and a 1991 phase 2. Some of us had the luck to obtain such a car... others are just in search of one, or daydreaming and for sure cannot respect the value, love and devotion Alain Oreille owners share.

Fact 4:
The restoration, which is inevitable because of the age of the specific model, is indeed a challenge. As some of you have already posted correctly, the only thing that they would stick on their door pillars would be ONLY the genuine or a PERFECT reproduction of the badge (which by the way is OUT OF STOCK WORLDWIDE and when it was available it retailed @ 100 pounds per PIECE!!!). For all others that can live with cheap substitutes or whatever fulfills their taste is a completely different story and there is no need to spend their time reading this or even replying.

Now, driven from our passion to restore one of our Alain Orielle edition GT and having in hand the GENUINE badges we spent 4 months researching manufacturers, suppliers, workshops, techniques, etc in order to reproduce the ULTIMATE copy. Trust me in this because I am in the field of graphics and materials for a living the past 15 years and my experience and standards are too hard to be satisfied.

At first I found it funny for a guy that doesn't even know what the ACTUAL badge is like, trying to reproduce it, using various hilarious ways in order to understand what is needed. Examples?
Size... (thank god I mentioned it on the listing)
Shape... sketched with no actual item in his disposal as a sample
Colours... blue? bluer? metallic? solid? LOL... are you serious mate? Every monitor has its own compensation and calibration in colours so the lighter or darker refinements you tried to do believe me are way out of reassuring the EXACT PERFECT copy like you insist on. And even if you manage to get a satisfying result in your monitor metallic colours are not printed like you say but are offered into specific colours and there is NO supplier in the world who would manufacture the specific colours for such a small order. Also it would be great if he didn't try to sell you the "absolute" copies, like he said, by using my photos and specifications. Let aside the forwarding of my material to his suppliers in order to get his petty job done!

Anyway... no hard feelings!

But lets cut to the gist...

As you have already understood I am the eBay seller offering the badges.
I have already produced a number of sets solely because there was no manufacturer who would make a single copy, which are perfect by all means (a couple of members here that have already bought them can guarantee that)
Also there are already some Alain Oreille owners across europe that were not biased or over-suspicious and bought the badges who are still contacting me either to express their satisfaction or to order a back up set (you can read their feedback comments in eBay)
The price for a single set is half of the original one.
There are also open listings offering the badges via auction at a lower price.
Group buy discounts are welcome but are limited in reasonable offers and SOLELY to serious Alain Oreille owners.

Believe me, I really hope that the set offered here at the price of 6 pounds (including p+p) would meet everyones expectations and is indeed an absolute reproduction and not something that is simply... ok or acceptable.

I really like the fact that there are many of us who struggle for the best for this wonderful car and share our passion. I hope during my visit to the UK we will have the chance to meet and discuss in person our passion.

I am really sorry in case I offended anyone but some posts were way far from common sense, misleading and slandering that it was inevitable to overlook.

Best regards

ps: for what it's worth here is what is left from a 100 piece production...

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1bPgqA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1bPgqA)

Mart

03-02-2009, 22:34

Timefuse? More like short fuse.

Without wishing to boil your p1ss, may I correct you on a few things... :)

There were 1000 Raider (as it was called here) models produced for the UK market. Fact.

The badges that come from Renault were produced by a third party manufacturer (read local graphics company), so therefore aren't strictly 'genuine' Renault parts as such anyway. That's like saying the dash clocks are genuine, from the factory, Renault items. They aren't.

If a copy is made to be 100% exact from an o.e part, even the geekiest Renaultphile wouldn't notice a difference. Thankfully I don't think there's anyone that anal in the UK anyway.

And if yours are so perfect, and the fact you sell them across Europe, why have you only sold just over 50% of them? (that's a tongue in cheek jibe by the way ;) )

Shane P

03-02-2009, 22:44

new Poster! (less Than 10 Posts)

Fact 1:
2000 Alain Oreille Cars Were Produced Worldwide And Rhd 5's Ones Were Only The 1/5 Of That Figure.

Fail !! :)

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:06

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Timefuse? More like short fuse.

Without wishing to boil your p1ss, may I correct you on a few things... :)

There were 1000 Raider (as it was called here) models produced for the UK market. Fact.

The badges that come from Renault were produced by a third party manufacturer (read local graphics company), so therefore aren't strictly 'genuine' Renault parts as such anyway. That's like saying the dash clocks are genuine, from the factory, Renault items. They aren't.

If a copy is made to be 100% exact from an o.e part, even the geekiest Renaultphile wouldn't notice a difference. Thankfully I don't think there's anyone that anal in the UK anyway.

And if yours are so perfect, and the fact you sell them across Europe, why have you only sold just over 50% of them? (that's a tongue in cheek jibe by the way ;) )

First of all Mr Mart you should have skipped the commenting on my alias since this has nothing to do with this conversation and as you said you didn't wish to boil my p1ss...
I could also write numerous jokes like (K)Mart etc but as I said there is no need for personal comments :)

I might be wrong about the number of "Raiders" produced for the UK market but this also is not our subject... Some say that there were 500, others 866, etc... so one thing is for sure - renault knows best

What you are pinpointing as a third party manufacturer doesn't mean at all that the parts are not genuine eg: valeo, bendix, marshall ... the term genuine we speak of specifies parts that are available only from renault distributors, parts that you cannot purchase anywhere else than an authorised dealer.

What is sold by now is already beyond any optimistic estimation since we are talking about a part for a car that is becoming extinct... some of their owners though try to do their best to maintain them, rather than selling or breaking them up in order to buy something different. Also have in mind that the first listing was active around 20 days ago...

so... please do me a favour, be more polite the next time you post your thoughts in public, go have fun with your jap and let the "anal" renaultphiles do what they think its best

BriC

03-02-2009, 23:15

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Hello to everyone and excuse me if I may sound a little bitter but the circumstances and posts that I have read here are far beyond logical thinking and too misleading.

First of all let me clarify some facts regarding the subject you name as "Raider...

OK.. After reading all that I still struggle to understand what the fcuk your point is?

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:18

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

also a quick notice...

my initial post's intention is to share with you how difficult and time consuming is the reproduction we speak of along with some info that I bumped into the last 4 months, while trying to get them done...

Believe me I have no intention or need to advertise any merchandise or even con anyone. As I wrote I only want to help anyone who is in search of replacement badges since I have them in hand.

Mart

03-02-2009, 23:19

Perhaps a reword or 2 is in order then for the amount of times you posted 'fact'. If you want to impress us with your knowledge & to strengthen your case, at least get the main facts/points right in the first place.

So because a part comes from a dealership, it's deemed genuinely authentic, whereby if you went to the actual manufacturer & sourced the part that way, it wouldn't be?

My posts are, on the whole, always polite in general. I just have a problem when I also read posts that are 'far beyond logical thinking and too misleading'. More so the misleading bits...oh, and the ironic patronising aspect of them too.

I also own a gtt as well, and my rtoc join date will give a clue to my Renaultphile status...

d110rkjste

03-02-2009, 23:19

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

the raider is jus a gt turbo with some colour changes aint it?

BriC

03-02-2009, 23:22

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

the raider is jus a gt turbo with some colour changes aint it?

Well, yeh.. it's a limited edition version, with differences such as the colour coded alloy wheels, black carpet, stickers on the doors, and a few others.

Shane P

03-02-2009, 23:25

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

the raider is jus a gt turbo with some colour changes aint it?

Yep, colour coded bits and pieces, an alarm as standard and a different stereo unit :)

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:29

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

So because a part comes from a dealership, it's deemed genuinely authentic, whereby if you went to the actual manufacturer & sourced the part that way, it wouldn't be?

You have got me wrong... Of course it is genuine if you find the actual manufacturer but I guess this is not possible for the badges

Ian S

03-02-2009, 23:31

One of the RTOC committee members has an OE sticker badge and before the announcement yesterday by dgdogz had already sent it off so they could exactly replicate it.

The first company he contacted, based on some pictures he sent, offered a price for a 100 badges that worked out to less than £1 each to the RTOC.

They already have done a few samples and are sending them back to us for approval.

timefuse, instead of spending 4 months looking around in Greece(?) maybe you should have phoned up some manufacturers in the UK?

Mart

03-02-2009, 23:33

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

You have got me wrong... Of course it is genuine if you find the actual manufacturer but I guess this is not possible for the badges

I guess so, hence the copied ones floating around. And for exactly the same reason why we source alternative after-market parts if they're not available from Renault any more.

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:43

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

timefuse, instead of spending 4 months looking around in Greece(?) maybe you should have phoned up some manufacturers in the UK?

Ian could you please explain the (?) next to Greece?
I hope you are not wondering where Greece is... google the term "geography" if so

Ian S

03-02-2009, 23:48

I guess this is not possible for the badges

It took me only an hour or so to find out the story of my 5GTT's unusual sliding sunroof and contact the company who made them.

So it may well be still be possible to find out who made the Raider badges and see if they are still in business.

But an exercise if futility.

I never liked the, IMO, very nasty dirty blue colour nor the black carpet. And I may well have peeled of those stupid badges and binned them. Even just that ridiculous word etched into the rear window may have been a deal breaker. No, if the 'Raider' was the only version of 5GTT that existed I feel sure I'd have bought a different car with a colour that that I liked and that I was happy to be seen in. Just my opinion of course, I know many people prefer them.

I've had my 5GTT since 1992.

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:52

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

I guess so, hence the copied ones floating around. And for exactly the same reason why we source alternative after-market parts if they're not available from Renault any more.

floating around?
You mean there are many options out there?
I think the whole issue was brought up during the last month or so and before that there were no "original" or even "copied" ones available; just a couple of them offered by cgb and 1 or 2 used sets

Ian S

03-02-2009, 23:52

Ian could you please explain the (?) next to Greece?

I've visited Greece many times.

I was questioning whether you spent 4 months looking in only in Greece and no other countries.

Shane P

03-02-2009, 23:54

[quote=Ian S;41877]very nasty dirty blue colour [quote]

They have a nice purple tint to them in the sun :D:)

Ian S

03-02-2009, 23:58

That's the only good bit, but how often is it sunny?

I added a purple flip on the bonnet my pearl white one to see what it did. Disappointing really. Very nice from the one right angle on a sunny day, but a less than pleasing green most of the time.

timefuse

03-02-2009, 23:59

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

I've visited Greece many times.

I was questioning whether you spent 4 months looking in only in Greece and no other countries.

I contacted many manufacturers, some in Greece but also in the UK, Germany and France...

finally, the badges were produced in Germany

5alldaway

04-02-2009, 00:06

lol at this thread, but anyway i have a freebie raider badge sitting right here, whoever sends me the sexiest chat up line can have it for free

soapymech

04-02-2009, 00:10

lol at this thread, but anyway i have a freebie raider badge sitting right here, whoever sends me the sexiest chat up line can have it for free

ello darling like ur badge'r

Shane P

04-02-2009, 00:12

lol at this thread, but anyway i have a freebie raider badge sitting right here, whoever sends me the sexiest chat up line can have it for free

Hey there Gorgeous, how are you and your sexy badge doing tonight, fancy a ride in my french tin skip? :laugh:

5alldaway

04-02-2009, 02:48

ganjamans line is clearly the winner here, send me your addy and i will put it in a envolope for u

dgdogz

04-02-2009, 19:42

ONLY 2 TAKERS FOR THE FREE BADGE
i thought ther wld have been a few more than that
hahaha
:)

MR TURBO

04-02-2009, 20:04

hahahhaha i'd have a go but I dont own a raider!!!

dgdogz

05-02-2009, 21:55

can i tempt anyone else into some fine raider badges at rtoc member only price of £6 a pair?
:)

Billy-G

06-02-2009, 20:08

Yep, me, two pairs please :)

dgdogz

09-02-2009, 20:12

hello ppol
just a quick update

received the samples today
sadly i dont have a camera at this minute but by making a comparison to images of originals they are absolutely spot on.
they have been darkened down a slight shade from the original design i posted up
have trust people
:)
im very happy with them and i am certain you will be too
i will call the company tomorow morning to confirm the design and should expect delivery by next week

matt1334

09-02-2009, 20:55

fan fooooooo kin tastic

Misky

16-02-2009, 08:08

Any news mate? Im soo excited! :D

dgdogz

16-02-2009, 08:12

hi chaps

no update as yet..i am going to call them today for you guys and get a delivery date
i confirmed the design last week and told them to go ahead with production.if im correct i should be receiveing them late this week as i was told turn around time from confirmation was around 7-10 days
as soon as i have them in my hand i will be posting them straight out to you guys.
i already have all the envelopes waiting
:)

Misky

16-02-2009, 08:22

SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!
Once again good work! :agree:

Purple_rob

16-02-2009, 17:48

chris_t

16-02-2009, 18:54

Just thought i'd post it as I saw it

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-5-GT-TURBO-RAIDER-DOOR-BADGES-PAIR_W0QQitemZ390031649288QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item390031649288&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

I emailed him late last year when he had the badges at £100 a pair asking if he could sell them a bit cheaper. He said there was no absolutely no chance he could sell them for less and make a profit.

Seems the economic downturn has had an effect on the wholesale price of Raider door badges recently. :rolleyes:

dgdogz

16-02-2009, 19:15

well those tht are selling at the crazy prices aswell as th other character on ebay is just crazy.
50 quid and making no profit...76 quid and making no profit.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i wonder
hahaha
but thts wt apens...shop around...i found mines on gocompareraiderbadges.com (http://www.gocompareraiderbadges.com)
hahaha

Billy-G

16-02-2009, 19:51

I emailed him late last year when he had the badges at £100 a pair asking if he could sell them a bit cheaper. He said there was no absolutely no chance he could sell them for less and make a profit.

Seems the economic downturn has had an effect on the wholesale price of Raider door badges. :rolleyes:

Don't even start me on that guy.:coffee:

dgdogz

18-02-2009, 22:41

hey hoooo
badges arrived today
:)
look great
i wasnt actually expecting them this early...i am at work all day tomorow with no help so tomorow i will print all address labels from the chaps who paid thorugh paypal and on friday i will march myself to the post office and send them out for u guys
:)

dgdogz

21-02-2009, 17:52

hello folks
stuff was posted to all you paying customers today

hopefully you should receive them on monday
:)

Misky

23-02-2009, 08:38

Do we have any dims as to position them?
Maybe a member who still has them on can help? :scared:

Big Steve - Raider

23-02-2009, 09:18

Do we have any dims as to position them?
Maybe a member who still has them on can help? :scared:

The bottom of the badge is positioned in-line with the bottom of the window crease from the door & rear quarter.

Then you just position the badge in the centre of the door panel ;)

Misky

23-02-2009, 09:31

The bottom of the badge is positioned in-line with the bottom of the window crease from the door & rear quarter.

Then you just position the badge in the centre of the door panel ;)

I thought you would know! :D :agree:

Big Steve - Raider

23-02-2009, 09:32

I thought you would know! :D :agree:

:ashamed: :laugh:

chris_t

23-02-2009, 20:33

hello folks
stuff was posted to all you paying customers today

hopefully you should receive them on monday
:)

Received these badges today and I'm impressed - saves me wasting £50 with CGB (:mad:).

Cheers buddy :agree:

dgdogz

23-02-2009, 20:49

no problem matey
im very glad your happy with them
:)
hope you other chaps are pleased too.

Bigfoot

23-02-2009, 20:57

So whos the first to post pictures of their ones?

J$£5GTT

23-02-2009, 21:13

So whos the first to post pictures of their ones?

:scared:

Misky

23-02-2009, 21:15

Top work doggz!
Got mine im sooooo happy with the quality defo going to get another set for spares!
Great group buy! :agree:

Big Steve - Raider

24-02-2009, 04:33

Recieved my Raider badges yesterday & they're fan-flippin-tastic!! :agree: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Top work by dgdogz on getting them made & especially for the bargain price of £6! :eek: :niceone:

I would recommend these to anyone with a Raider missing the badges!!!

Should we not put any remaining in the Club Shop?? :confused:

dgdogz

24-02-2009, 07:32

thanks very much steve...
as above im glad you like them and im glad i managed to get them correct.
i am tryin to get some pics uploaded to my comp but for the life of me it wont work could any of you guys stick a picture up please
thanks

Big Steve - Raider

24-02-2009, 17:06

Here's a scan of the four badges I ordered from dgdogz. Sorry for the poor quality my scanner seems a bit on the blink :eek:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn259/BigSteveT/Badges.jpg

dgdogz

24-02-2009, 18:16

thanks for that steve.
scanner does not do them justice
:)
if anyone else would like a set give me a pm
cheers

dgdogz

25-02-2009, 15:46

sent yours out today bigfoot
:)

Bigfoot

25-02-2009, 15:47

sent yours out today bigfoot
:)

Cheers mate :) :agree: look forward to seeing them

Misky

26-02-2009, 11:55

Heres a question! Which way do the 'triangles' slope to? :ashamed:
Presume its towards the front of the car?
Just want to get it right!

chris_t

26-02-2009, 11:59

Heres a question! Which way do the 'triangles' slope to? :ashamed:
Presume its towards the front of the car?
Just want to get it right!

Towards the front on the drivers side - towards the back on passenger side

http://www.renault5gtturbo.com/Renault_Literature/raiderp2.jpg

Misky

26-02-2009, 12:29

Double check! so like this then? :agree:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/misky88/RAIDERBADEDIRECTION.jpg

BriC

26-02-2009, 12:32

Cadding it up :laugh:

Misky

26-02-2009, 12:34

Cadding it up :laugh:

Steelwork section layer :agree:

Bigfoot

26-02-2009, 12:34

What scale is that drawing?

BriC

26-02-2009, 12:37

Where is the fancy frame in paper space?

Billy-G

26-02-2009, 12:41

Just want to say, got home today and seen the badges that had been sent out. I work all over, so they were waiting for me for a few days.

The quality is just brilliant. Better even, than the ones I bought from Renault years ago, these seem glossier.

Considering the price, well, I'm blown away.

All credit to dgdogz, he pulled a rabbit out the hat with these and no mistake.:agree:

Misky

26-02-2009, 12:43

What scale is that drawing?

Didnt have dims for a door etc so just a print screen of a model space sketch

Bigfoot

26-02-2009, 12:44

Im looking forward to seeing these badges now :D

Big Steve - Raider

26-02-2009, 12:49

Yes Misky - Wide side up! :D

chris_t

26-02-2009, 12:49

Just put mine on the car :D Pics to follow

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=477&pictureid=4827

chris_t

26-02-2009, 12:53

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=477&pictureid=4829

dgdogz

26-02-2009, 22:26

thanks a lot chaps
cheers billy g comments much appreciated

they look great on the car chris

really glad you guys are happy with them
i contacted clee about having these in the club shop...he said speak to miller so all your nice comments r appreciated.
seeing as i dont have a raider i wont be having any on my car but again if anyone wants another set send me a little pm and al post out next day for u
:)

Bigfoot

26-02-2009, 22:36

Cheers, recieved them today, do look rather nice :agree: cant wait to sort out the car to put them on the doors :)

matt1334

28-02-2009, 13:10

opened mine 10 minutes ago and very happy , look real good,

thanks matt

dgdogz

28-02-2009, 18:02

good stuff
:)

dgdogz

04-03-2009, 09:51

anyone else chappies??i stil got a sheet of badges here if anyone would like a spare set?
:)
cheers lads

dgdogz

24-03-2009, 21:02

hello lads
just a quick nudge for anyone not seen this topic as i still have these badges here
perfect replica £6 per set inc postage
happy times
:)

OLLIe

13-04-2009, 14:02

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

pm`d dogz :)

bloody excellent price considering those on fleabay

dgdogz

17-04-2009, 22:20

no probs sent yours out the other day you should have them by now
:)

OLLIe

20-04-2009, 19:00

yes sorry i forgot to reply.. arrived safe and currently under lockdown until the proec progresses far enough!

superb quality