Woznaldo
11-11-2018, 00:04
Ok, it looks like I’ve picked up an F4R from a Clio III 200 Cup. In fact I’ve got most of the mechanicals for the car. So what I’d like to do is confirm a few points and let people pick holes in my plan or correct me if I’ve made the wrong assumptions for fitting an F4R to an R5 GTT.
Mounting
There are two pieces to this puzzle depending what direction you go in. So I’ll list each mount and talk to that.
Front Right - R5 GTX will bolt straight up, but rarer than rocking horse shit. Make your own or modify the original.
Front Left (Gearbox) - this will depend on what transmission is used. JB/C can utilise std mount. Clio 6spd won’t fit without chassis rail mods (substantial).
Rear - again transmission related. JB/C will bolt straight up, Clio 6 spd? Not sure?
So first question. If the chassis was modified, would the stdmounts work?
Driveshafts
Again, very transmission dependent (obviously) and to a certain extent dependent on what hub/upright combo you plan on using.
JB3 - std shafts ok?
JC5 - std shafts ok?
6spd - ? No idea.
I plan on running Clio 172 wide track, so I’m going to have to figure out lengths, but might be ok with hub splines (23?).
Gearshift Linkage - JB/C use std setup. 6spd??
Exhaust
I guess this will come down to manifold/bulkhead clearance? The rest is fairly std exhaust fab stuff. Do I need to run a CAT if using std ECU?
Electrical
I’ve got the whole loom, so I should be able to give it power. I’ll probably run it’s fusebox too?
ECU - I want to keep it simple for now, so OEM. Will the std ECU work as is, or will it need an unlock to turn off the imobilizer/security?
What are my options if if does need an unlock?
Engine Ancillaries
Alternator - just a rewire
Power Steering - maybe a delete, maybe keep and use a 172/182 rack?...
Air Con - Normally just delete, but it gets freakin hot here (40+ deg C).
There’s probably some gaping holes but hopefully none that haven’t been overcome before. I should also add that I have access to welding equipment, a lathe and a mill, so I can make quite a lot if it comes to it.
Woz
Mounting
There are two pieces to this puzzle depending what direction you go in. So I’ll list each mount and talk to that.
Front Right - R5 GTX will bolt straight up, but rarer than rocking horse shit. Make your own or modify the original.
Front Left (Gearbox) - this will depend on what transmission is used. JB/C can utilise std mount. Clio 6spd won’t fit without chassis rail mods (substantial).
Rear - again transmission related. JB/C will bolt straight up, Clio 6 spd? Not sure?
So first question. If the chassis was modified, would the stdmounts work?
Driveshafts
Again, very transmission dependent (obviously) and to a certain extent dependent on what hub/upright combo you plan on using.
JB3 - std shafts ok?
JC5 - std shafts ok?
6spd - ? No idea.
I plan on running Clio 172 wide track, so I’m going to have to figure out lengths, but might be ok with hub splines (23?).
Gearshift Linkage - JB/C use std setup. 6spd??
Exhaust
I guess this will come down to manifold/bulkhead clearance? The rest is fairly std exhaust fab stuff. Do I need to run a CAT if using std ECU?
Electrical
I’ve got the whole loom, so I should be able to give it power. I’ll probably run it’s fusebox too?
ECU - I want to keep it simple for now, so OEM. Will the std ECU work as is, or will it need an unlock to turn off the imobilizer/security?
What are my options if if does need an unlock?
Engine Ancillaries
Alternator - just a rewire
Power Steering - maybe a delete, maybe keep and use a 172/182 rack?...
Air Con - Normally just delete, but it gets freakin hot here (40+ deg C).
There’s probably some gaping holes but hopefully none that haven’t been overcome before. I should also add that I have access to welding equipment, a lathe and a mill, so I can make quite a lot if it comes to it.
Woz