Welding

[Big_O]

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Im taking my 5 down to a local garage to get it checked out 2mo. It failed its last MOT on on a few things, mainly it needing some welding around the jacking points 18 months ago. It hasnt had anything done since then so i fear things may have got worse.

Was wondering if the worst case scenario would also be needing to get the sills replacing? If so could anyone give me a round about figure i could expect to pay to get this done?

It does look a bit tatty next to the skirts, would it be worth getting them done anyway whilst the jacking points are being done?

Thanks

[Chris Hebden]

My phylosophy is get as much welding as you can afford at any one time! Unfortunately the chances are its going to need some sooner or later!

[MR TURBO]

I recently had both sills done on mine I paid £200 just under :D

[Coops]

thats a good price, clio repairs cost a damn fortune, arches 200 a side easy:cry:

[Scoff]

I recently had both sills done on mine I paid £200 just under :D

I used to charge that for doing the 2 outers, but most R5's would need atleast some part of the inner repairing too once the outer had been cut off. they nearly all rot the inners through right above the jacking point, then again just above the corner of the door/rear quarter.

[Big_O]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

if i only have to pay £200 to get it through a mot i will be very happy :)

i had budgeted for around £500, just dont want to be tucked up as i know nothing about welding

[dangerous dave]

i paid something like £170 for the rear two thirds of the rear sills to be done.. the front was rebuild by myself and my uncle taking the best part of 2 days, inner sill, front jacking points, pretty much the front corners..

no welders gonna jump for joy welding a 5, its a 5h1tty job.. my uncle could weld a sheet of metal to an orange peel but rolled his eyes when he looked at the rot on my 5.. :p top man for doing it tho, cost = bottle of whisky:cool:

[Deano]

does anyone know where's the cheapest place to get sills from ?
Or has anyone got some nocking about ?? :smokin:

[tom t]

here sell them.

http://bap.dominohosting.biz/bap/bapdb01.nsf/ModelList!OpenForm&RestrictToCategory=RENAULT

or cgb

http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/body-panelsbumpersexterior-trims-and-fittings-41-c.asp

[MR TURBO]

here sell them.

http://bap.dominohosting.biz/bap/bapdb01.nsf/ModelList!OpenForm&RestrictToCategory=RENAULT

or cgb

http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/body-panelsbumpersexterior-trims-and-fittings-41-c.asp


The top link to beevers they are quite good I just couldn't remember the name of them

[Sy5GTT]

I had both inner and outers replaced last year for the MOT. Part of the floor was gone too where it meets the inner sill. Cost me £550.

[Deano]

Mine looks as though its similar to what you had done, i don't wanna be paying £550 though !!
Was that inclusive of all parts and painted up ? :smokin:

[Sy5GTT]

I supplied the sills, side skirt clips and rivets. All painted yes. TBH mine was very bad. Nearly all the inner both sides had to be replaced. I'd say that figure was worse case.

[Deano]

MINE'S QUITE BAD !! What do you recon ??
:smokin:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2389.jpg
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2395.jpg

[MR TURBO]

MINE'S QUITE BAD !! What do you recon ??
:smokin:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2389.jpg
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2395.jpg

Oh Errrr :(

[Sy5GTT]

That is worse than mine. My floor pans were ok. Get ready to splash the cash mate.:eek:

[tiff_lee]

Thats what I was thinking, how deep is your wallet?

[dangerous dave]

jesus, thats been there a while, why did the last owner spend all that money on paint while it was rotting away under his feet.. nutcase..

[Sy5GTT]

If its a project and you have the space I would get a rolling shell and swap everthing over. You could be spending £500 + on welding with the one you have.

[Deano]

Ye i know it was i bit of a surprise to find it !!
I think this is stage 5 weight reduction :laugh:

I'm gonna get it looked at this week so i'll post my quotes on here for you all to laugh at !!

[Deano]

If its a project and you have the space I would get a rolling shell and swap everthing over. You could be spending £500 + on welding with the one you have.

I think swapping the whole lot over would create too much of a job for me on my own, and i'd never get it finished ! but i have thought about it.

If it cost £500 at least i've kept it on the road instead of choppin it to bits for a quick profit ?? :smokin:

There are more pics on my profile.

[Sy5GTT]

Thats what I thought about mine. If your going to keep the car ,get it done.

[Deano]

Donations welcome !! :smokin:

[Big_O]

Got my car booked in for thursday so will be finding out an idea of the damage then. Removed the interior and carpet today and was pleasently suprised its not anything like my old 5 was so im hoping the work will be minimal :)

[minty83]

i had some inner and outer sills done last year cost me 300 all in, you can cut the sill down to below the side skirt so you dont have to get the car painted then;)

[Big_O]

i had some inner and outer sills done last year cost me 300 all in, you can cut the sill down to below the side skirt so you dont have to get the car painted then;)


If i get a bill for £300 i will be happy. Just everything else i need to get done to pass!

There are some patches of rust inside the boot space just below where the kidney shaped grille things go in, would those need to be patched up too?

[gttjames]

Got a bad patch around the windscreen, not to big, 6cm long, by 3cm wide. What can be done about this. Anyone had any rust work done around windscreen?

[Deano]

Got a bad patch around the windscreen, not to big, 6cm long, by 3cm wide. What can be done about this. Anyone had any rust work done around windscreen?

You could get someone to cut a piece off a rotten shell or a campus and get it patched in ? :smokin:

[Big Steve - Raider]

Common rust point on the 5 :(

I think it means the car's had a new windscreen & the fitter scratched the paint getting the old screen out so as a result it's rusted?!

I got a new panel from Renault when i had my car done but you can get patch it up with plates or another lump cut out of another car.

[wrightygtt]

I replaced both of mine a couple of years back, I wish I'd kept the pictures to post up:(
I drilled out the spot welds and welded to the lower line where the side skirt meets the rear quarter, I had to make new inner sills for the outers to tack to. It took a bit of pissing about as the car was on axle stands though. I'll find more picks of the rust, I spent fricken ages Cutting away metal, welding metal etc. anything can be sorted with in reason, depends if you've got the patience for it, I know I haven't anymore.

[Markey Mark (BD)]

MINE'S QUITE BAD !! What do you recon ??
:smokin:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2389.jpg
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m454/DEANO5PICS/CIMG2395.jpg

Bloody hell!! Thats rotted well under there and quite surprised on that car too.

That would take abit of time to do, not impossible but would need alot cutting out of there. Would also depend how far it goes into the seal and underneath the car, mine had abit of rot under there and i had to construct the jacking point from scratch on one side and the front of the seal.

Question is do you want to save the car.

[mr bean aka pete]

This was the state of my rust when i removed the sills and wondered why my rear bumper wasnt attached anymore

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m459/gtpete/mycar038.jpg


it took me 2months to finish all the welding and painting as trying to fit it in and around my daily job and the gf was quite hard work was well worth it tho :) this is the result all primered up ready for a final inspection b4 painting


http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m459/gtpete/mycar086.jpg

[gtmatt]

I used to charge that for doing the 2 outers, but most R5's would need atleast some part of the inner repairing too once the outer had been cut off. they nearly all rot the inners through right above the jacking point, then again just above the corner of the door/rear quarter.

remember when we did lomos a few years back :) they seem to go same areas:)

[gttjames]

Common rust point on the 5 :(

I think it means the car's had a new windscreen & the fitter scratched the paint getting the old screen out so as a result it's rusted?!

I got a new panel from Renault when i had my car done but you can get patch it up with plates or another lump cut out of another car.

cheers deano and steve hadnt thought of that.

It doesnt have the original screen, and the rubber seal doesnt sit flat around it so probably not the best job as it must have just been storing water in it. The drivers side looks ok (but probably behind the rubber is a diff story :laugh:) its on the passenger side a couple of patches.

After the summer i think im going to have to take it off the road, take the screen out and get it sorted.

[mr bean aka pete]

around the windscreen on my car i had exactly the same problem where someone had fitted a new screen but the rubber seal was a universal crappy 1 that didnt sit correctly around the window hence i have a few rust spots in the corners caused by cheap seal :crap:

[V Man]

Please remember when welding....safety is paramount.
;)http://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=384&pictureid=3533http://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=384http://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=384

[Ashy]

I was more worried about the petrol leaking out of the tank than the improvised stand!!

[V Man]

:laugh: Aye! I remember that. Nothing a good ol' wet sponge couldn't deal with :eek:

[Deano]

Thats the kind of set up i'm lookin at !! quality usage of tree stumps :smokin:

[V Man]

Thats the kind of set up i'm lookin at !! quality usage of tree stumps :smokin:

Well, if you had said earlier you could have borrowed them. Burnt them now!!!!:smokin:

[tom t]

lol mine was pretty bad when i got mine done had it under a gazebo on a muddy front garden, with a knocked down front wall was there for a while aswell. dont let the welding put you off. Get 2 work people :agree:

[DaveMayGTT]

Dont even mention the damn rear arches!! http://www.infinitybodywork.co.uk/Gallery/R5/Thumb/images/Photo-002_jpg.jpg

http://www.infinitybodywork.co.uk/Gallery/R5/Thumb/images/Photo-003_jpg.jpg

All fixed for free by a m8 though luckily