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Right then chaps, I'll just leave these pics here
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Proper job dude! As I said on facebook im up for a set if you get batch made mate. :)
Just waiting on the last piece of the puzzle to be finished and then proper testing can be done.
I need someone with a ph2 to be a genie pig, any volunteers? ;)
Matt Cole
09-02-2015, 22:06
Olli. Did you ever get the speedo rings done?
I'd love to put a set in my cossie 5, that's a phase 2 ;)
I was thinking of buying some top mounts for something cheap like a 200sx and cutting the tops off the turrets and just welding new tops on.
Your way is probably a little bit easier lol.
What sort of price are we talking?
jamie_clioGTT
10-02-2015, 15:52
Awesome, i would buy a set right now off you!
Mr Raider
10-02-2015, 22:30
Great work Oli. :agree: :cool:
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On the left is the sleve that came with the bearings, the right is a sleeved nut I had turned down on a lathe to suit the bearing to give the most amount of grip on the thread of the shock.
As far as price goes, barring any problems once I've done the testing, should be £120 a pair, not cheap I know but no more expensive than the other top mounts with holes round the outside.
As for when they'll be ready, I want to make sure they work and are safe before I start selling them, last thing I want is a failure and someone's wheel coming off mid corner.
Woznaldo
13-02-2015, 06:28
Oli, what's the internal diameter of the Bearing? That's the problem I had when looking for a Top Mount, but I'm using Leda Struts with M14 x 1.5 thread. What's the std GTT Strut thread type?
Looking good though.
Oli, what's the internal diameter of the Bearing? That's the problem I had when looking for a Top Mount, but I'm using Leda Struts with M14 x 1.5 thread. What's the std GTT Strut thread type?
Looking good though.
I'll have a proper measure of the bearing tonight, not sure about stock strut threads, I'm using Avo coil overs and their M14x1.5, I'm pretty sure stock is the same but will have to check
Put me down for a pair mate.
Do you Recon you could get an initial discount If you got a batch of say 10 done for a first run?
I'm sure 10 people would put their names down.
Good stuff mate if these work out let me know as id be interested in a set :agree:
jamie_clioGTT
13-02-2015, 18:26
put me down for a set...
Oli, what's the internal diameter of the Bearing? That's the problem I had when looking for a Top Mount, but I'm using Leda Struts with M14 x 1.5 thread. What's the std GTT Strut thread type?
Looking good though.
The TAS top mounts that were available many years ago for phase 1 suspension struts used the following size spherical bearing.
http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Lewis/Top%20Mounts/TAS%20Eccentric%20Roller%20Top%20Mounts.jpg
The SKF bearing would be an upgrade over the cheap bearing they supplied http://www.skf.com/uk/products/bearings-units-housings/spherical-plain-bearings-bushings-rod-ends/maintenance-free-radial-spherical-plain-bearings/maintenance-free-radial-spherical-plain-bearings/index.html?prodid=183312017
Internal diameter is shown as 17mm, hope that helps
Bearing internal measures 18mm
Woznaldo
13-02-2015, 22:30
Thanks Lewis and Oli, 18mm ID is a decent size to get some meat on a Sleeve Nut. I think mine are closer to 16mm, which is a bit too small and why Nut will sit on top. Sleeve Nut is the better arrangement.
I went for a sleaved nut more for the fact the Avo's don't have enough thread to get the top nut on otherwise, I figured the sleaved verity would stand a better chance of staying put
OK chaps, small update, I've got a pair of sleeved nuts and a method of spacing the spring retainer and lower section of the top mount.
A couple of hours cleaning up my struts, wire brushing down the rusty threads and regressing everything to make sure everything is free to work properly.
The top mounts are now fitted and adjusted, to give me 2.5 degrees of negative camber, tomorrow evening I shall give them a thorough test on a nice twisty road near me.
With any luck all should be good, the next step after that is with the help of a mate, test them on a ph2 gtt and make sure they give the appropriate amount of camber, after that I can start getting sets made up for those who want them.
jamie_clioGTT
23-02-2015, 20:39
sounds good. do you have a price in mind?
As mentioned before its gonna be about £120 the pair, this will include the mounts and sleeved nuts, however I Can only get the nuts with a M14x1.5 thread, I know this the thread for Ago coilovers and factory gtt struts, no idea what thread Gaz, Koni or other makes use.
Well that was the first round of testing haven't gone well :( unfortunately due the must more regide top mounts have exposed a problem with my coilovers, without maintaining the factory bearings and bushes the top spring locating cap has far too much play in it, as a result the slightest bump in the road results in a disturbing rattle.
I've got to go back to drawing board and work out a way to maintain as much of the factory top mount as possible.
If only My Avo coilovers had more thread at the top, none of this would be a problem :/
Have you got any pics of it in place?
Have you got any pics of it in place?
Not at the minute, I need the car tomorrow so I've had to put all the OE mount back on :/
Could do with pics of how others have assembled the compbrake mounts
When I thought of making some I'm sure I put the std bearing on top of the spring and just sat it up against the underneath of the top mount and it worked well.
But I'm sure you've tried that lol, so not much help.
Woznaldo
25-02-2015, 11:18
The Top Hats I've got for my 2.5" ID Springs are actually a 'floating' design, with their own needle roller bearing so they can still turn when they're sat up against the Camber Plate base.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa40/woznaldo/The%20Yellow%20Peril/TTT%20Top%20Hat%20System_zpshm2urbv1.jpg
I'm not sure how this will work in practice as I haven't fitted mine yet with this configuration, but the manufacture says that they run this style on their rally cars and it works well. They also say that they get 3 x the life of the Camber Plate bearing as it doesn't see as much load.
Time will tell.
Any joy?
I've got my suspension out and am doing some work on my front end so nowwould be a good time for me to fit some if they're ready?
The top mount design is complete but I haven't had a chance to work out a method of seating the spring properly underneath the bearing due some trouble with my back :/
And the chap who was gunna try them on his ph2 to make sure they give enough adjustment has just had his first baby so is way too busy to help :/
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