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turbo ted
04-01-2012, 19:09
heres a few pics of my new set up for 2012 before christmas i fitted a new set of piper 285 cams and made a new inlet manifold out of 120mm alloy tube.once fitted it was time to go back to mr scoff for a remap dropped the car up to him before christmas and will be collecting it this sunday the 8th jan.after let him loose for two weeks now doing further upgrades the main one was i bought his old turbo garrett gt35r which he fitted along making a new 3inch-2-1/2 downpipe and he also fitted a new 50mm turbosmart wastgate.to view this work scoff has done in technical files on the club forum under scoff all sorts-jobs,his work is superb and his mig welding is as good as tig welding.:)
http://www.rtoc.org/files/?path=Technical%20Files/Scoff/Jobs/Turbo%20Ted/
heres a clip that scoff sent me this morning of my car on his new rollers making 451hp at 2bar boost,collecting car this sunday cannot wait to get me motor back,big thankyou to scoff once again for his precision work:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xhg6C-i4KM
andybond
04-01-2012, 19:20
WoW !
That is fantastic fella. I bet you cant wait to pick it up
heres a clip that scoff sent me this morning of my car on his new rollers making 451hp at 2bar boost.
Kin'ell!! :eek: seemed fairly understated on the rollers!
car.crash
04-01-2012, 19:30
This car is epic. I remember a few years back when it had full leather seats and chrome bling. From show car to a 10 sec beast. Well done rob.
congrats ted , epic :cool:
turbo ted
04-01-2012, 19:44
thanks for comments:) im off now to phils surrey meet cheers.
what throttle body are you using Rob?
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
04-01-2012, 19:49
what throttle body are you using Rob?
Looks like clio 16v??
Awesome work fella, looks the tits, bet it's gunna be a handfull :)
Kin'ell!! :eek: seemed fairly understated on the rollers!
you've got a keen eye, that video might have been an earlier one at about 380hp or something. You don't win any prizes though :D
Its also a timed test, so that means no matter how much torque the motor makes the acceleration rate does not increase. It has the effect of making the car look very linear when actually there is quite a lot of midrange.
you've got a keen eye, that video was an earlier one at about 380hp or something. You don't win any prizes though :D
Ha, just glad to see the rollers up and running... I'll have to get my finger out and get mine down to you ;) I've heard about Andy C's rolling road running in technique :eek:
The main thing for me is safety because road mapping was getting a bit silly toward the end. I don't think I could go back :)
Great work Chris, as always :agree: :cool:
Tony Walker
04-01-2012, 22:40
Probably wouldnt of been long before it would of drawn negative attention too. A couple of neighbours complaining of noise for example.
Alastair
04-01-2012, 23:09
Awesome, congrats to both of you! :eek::eek::eek:
TNT ANDY
05-01-2012, 07:01
Good work :agree:
Robbie and Chris looks awesome, top work looking forward to seeing how it performs in 2012 :agree:
Big Steve - Raider
05-01-2012, 08:46
:eek: WOW!!
The technical knowledge we have in this club keeps impressing me!
Great work guys :niceone:
Is it me or is it running on top of just one roller and not in-between :scratch:
pascal-GT
05-01-2012, 11:50
Awesome:cool::agree:
Is it me or is it running on top of just one roller and not in-between :scratch:
Yes but no prizes for you either :cooter: It was an idea I got from the superflow tech guys. The rear roller does nothing on this dyno (on some others it's used for wheel speed I'm told) so it's entirely possible to run on the front roller only. It makes for much better grip. The software allows me to remove the mass of the rear roller from the inertia calculations but it makes next to no difference anyway since it's the brake doing most of the work at 300hp+. I was doing a big turbo C20LET corsa yesterday at 470hp and not a hint of slip from that either. Really happy with that, I was worried grip was going to be more of a problem than it is. :)
BluntyR5GTT
05-01-2012, 14:17
absolutely love this robbie i bet you and scoff are proud of the outcome, cant wait see it at pod this year
out of interest ( the first to ask the questions:D)
has the new inlet manifold increased in cubic volume over the o.e item (with the longer runner system) as the fabricated inlet has much shorter runners, or where they shortened to reduce ftlb/ but increase hp, i'm also wondering how laggy that gt35 must be :eek:what rpm,s is it spooling at with 29 psi:cooter:
must have felt awsome on the road ted:cool:
It hasn't left the workshop yet, I hope the gearbox lasts more than a few pulls up the road !
I don't think robbie will mind me saying that it's laggy, about 5500rpm before it comes on strong. I think torque was in the order of 320lb @ 7000rpm (really) but I don't have the plot to hand. He can post that up if he wants to :)
It hasn't left the workshop yet, I hope the gearbox lasts more than a few pulls up the road !
I don't think robbie will mind me saying that it's laggy, about 5500rpm before it comes on strong. I think torque was in the order of 320lb @ 7000rpm (really) but I don't have the plot to hand. He can post that up if he wants to :) would 270 cams with a bit less overlap/lift have helped in spooling up ? or would have choked /held up the flow at that kind of boost :confused: i'm pushing 290ftlb ,so it will be interesting to see how the gearbox/clutch holds up, as there only supposed to be rated to 300ftlb:scared: :scratch: it will be fine, mostly wheelspin;):laugh:
a very well done again ted and scoff:smokin: another f series renault showing the numbers:cool:
you can breath some magic over mine in a few months;)
turbo ted
05-01-2012, 19:01
the main reason for changing the inlet manifold was the car was running to hot as the inlet was on top of the rad and no air would flow from fan and out over the engine.
the internal diameter of the old inlet manifold was 80mm and the new manifold is 120mm with 50mm runners so the volume should be slighty bigger.
shorter runners it will have less torque,but i don't want any more torque before on the old turbo at 28psi and at 6000rpm it made 345lbft.
the set up now is all the power is at the top end to go pod racing:D
TNT ANDY
05-01-2012, 20:45
:)I love 1/4 milers you're all nutters :D
great work ted and scoff :agree:
rs250nut
06-01-2012, 00:21
Nice work chaps, fancy the esc ?
Dave Reed
06-01-2012, 08:39
Looking good robbie :agree:
Whens the first outing planned?
pascal-GT
08-01-2012, 15:26
to have you make videos on the road?:cool:
also be intruiged to see how the box does on first pod outing :-)
whats she run atm, 172 with diff?
turbo ted
21-07-2012, 23:51
Just spent the evening back up with Chris @ EFI parts and now the new engine setup made the magic 500 running less psi but making more power, 506bhp @ 28 psi to be exact!
big thanks to chris aka scoff
see link below, not a great video though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-iiySEcyo&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-iiySEcyo&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ&index=1&feature=plcp)
allanr5gtt
22-07-2012, 00:02
:goodJob: well done bud
That's f***ing amazing Robbie I told you it would do the 500 :) hats off to you mate you deserve to find the rewards now I just hope the box and the shafts atleast hold out for you to crack your pb at pod mate :agree: I wonder how close to scoffs time you can achieve now mate well done to you and Chris top work :agree::cool:
TNT ANDY
22-07-2012, 00:53
Get a sticker for the back that says ' I am Spartan'
Well done chap - that must feel brutal.
BluntyR5GTT
22-07-2012, 05:28
absolutely unreal mate that must be a tad lively :), are you at national day?
Robbie top work car must be insane to drive, so what changes did you make in the rebuild?
rs250nut
22-07-2012, 10:07
Are you still on pump fuel?
His engine breaths a lot better now, so good work robbie :) it took something like 8 or 9% more fuel above 7000rpm. If the gearbox and shafts last I think he could go 137mph in the 1/4m :)
andybond
22-07-2012, 14:13
I can't get my head around that kind of power to weight.
My megane is remapped,filter,exhausted and it's lively. Nearly twice the power and 3/5 the weight ...
Insane.
What did you do to get this boost in power then fella?
Top work, tell me it's coming to national day
What did you do to get this boost in power then fella?
I'm pretty sure it's had the cup mod and Group A carb. :laugh:
I'm pretty sure it's had the cup mod and Group A carb. :laugh:
Ah that old chestnut lol
turbo ted
22-07-2012, 22:05
new engine spec
williams head bigger inlet valves and ported inlets,standard exhaust valves and slightly lower compression than before, they're the only differences and its making extra power.
Still on pump fuel Shell Vpower and a pint of octane booster :D
and yes it will be at the renault turbo festival.
Awesome result mate, a real beast!
You use 12.9 headbolts right? What bolts have you used for the main caps?
new engine spec
williams head bigger inlet valves and ported inlets,standard exhaust valves and slightly lower compression than before, they're the only differences and its making extra power.
Still on pump fuel Shell Vpower and a pint of octane booster :D
and yes it will be at the renault turbo festival.
Awesome, just shows old school tuning such as bigger valves make all the difference
Alastair
22-07-2012, 22:27
new engine spec
williams head bigger inlet valves and ported inlets,standard exhaust valves and slightly lower compression than before, they're the only differences and its making extra power.
Still on pump fuel Shell Vpower and a pint of octane booster :D
and yes it will be at the renault turbo festival.
Which brand of octane boost do you use ted?
Top work though, awesome numbers can't wait to see it!
turbo ted
22-07-2012, 22:40
lucas
car.crash
22-07-2012, 23:06
Paddy spec tuning. Well done shamus :)
nice work teddy man
as said, i'm loving the use of the JC5 and intruiged to see how much more she'll take! :cool:
turbo ted
22-11-2012, 23:28
small update more upgrades at the end of 2012 for next year season 2013,
new engine bay bulk head moved back for more space in engine bay around manifold,
vw gearbox conversion under construction new parts from america have arrived new clutch,arp bolts,lsd,front mount so no more waiting around time to crack on with the build thats all for now more updates soon pictures below,
Good stuff ted keep it going mate looking forward to some more progress and pictures :agree:
rs250nut
23-11-2012, 08:48
Are you racing next year ? Esc?
Good to see the parts arriving, look forward to seeing this next year
Robbie as always top work looking forward to seeing this again:agree: :burnrubber:
a colossal job on this car!!
bravo, good courage afterwards.:agree:
:cool: looking good, are you running the peloquin diff by any chance;)
was going to fit one, but need to get use to the car with an open diff first:laugh::laugh:
are you running split gears from different boxes or have you stuck with a single type, erf,drw etc.
was going to get that clutch myself, but was informed that the oxide granules on the friction plate would'nt last more than 4000 miles, they built me a 4+ build, which is basicly the full cerametalic ring with solid centre. figured out cheaper than the stage 3+ also:D
used the uprated engine mounts on all corners, on mine and to be honnest it does'nt move one bit(piccys in project thread)
my only conern is the outer hubs splines shearing of, which will mean fitting bigger hubs etc cant remember if you fitted the 172 items:scratch: either way great work rob ,bet you cant wait to get it going again, 9,s this year maybe:D, might need a bigger turbo though;)
Andy it's the CVs that fail before the splines. 172 CV's and hubs are much stronger.
Andy it's the CVs that fail before the splines. 172 CV's and hubs are much stronger.
its on my list to do, cheers chris. had alreadt built up the driveshafts:homer::homer: just out of interest, is there anything else thats bigger/ stronger say scenic or espace that will work?
its on my list to do, cheers chris. had alreadt built up the driveshafts:homer::homer: just out of interest, is there anything else thats bigger/ stronger say scenic or espace that will work?
I looked at a few andy, I think most of the newer renault use the same spline and CV as 172 so it was just as easy to use those. Some of the old bigger renaults used the bigger spline too but 172 CV's looked best to me. I had no more trouble after I swapped to those.
cheers chris, hows your 5 doing, have you had anytime yet for the upgrades,cough,cough turbo:D
turbo ted
24-11-2012, 21:15
:cool: looking good, are you running the peloquin diff by any chance;)
was going to fit one, but need to get use to the car with an open diff first:laugh::laugh:
are you running split gears from different boxes or have you stuck with a single type, erf,drw etc.
was going to get that clutch myself, but was informed that the oxide granules on the friction plate would'nt last more than 4000 miles, they built me a 4+ build, which is basicly the full cerametalic ring with solid centre. figured out cheaper than the stage 3+ also:D
used the uprated engine mounts on all corners, on mine and to be honnest it does'nt move one bit(piccys in project thread)
my only conern is the outer hubs splines shearing of, which will mean fitting bigger hubs etc cant remember if you fitted the 172 items:scratch: either way great work rob ,bet you cant wait to get it going again, 9,s this year maybe:D, might need a bigger turbo though;)hi andrew the diff im using is a cheap version of the peloquin here's the link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160900534039?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648
scoff has used this diff so i know it works:)using petrol gears in the drw box clutch wise if it only lasts up to 4000miles in that time should do me for 4 years or 4 launches at pod:devil:running 172 hubs already so shafts should be sorted, as for a bigger turbo no but maybe a twin stroll exhaust housing and more boost :D
cheers chris, hows your 5 doing, have you had anytime yet for the upgrades,cough,cough turbo:D
Yes andy its getting there. I've bitten off more than I can chew this winter, there's a lot going on with it. It's away having a national chassis cage done then it's off for paint and wrap while I build a new motor and gearbox.
Robbie, looking good :)
hi andrew the diff im using is a cheap version of the peloquin here's the link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160900534039?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648
scoff has used this diff so i know it works:)using petrol gears in the drw box clutch wise if it only lasts up to 4000miles in that time should do me for 4 years or 4 launches at pod:devil:running 172 hubs already so shafts should be sorted, as for a bigger turbo no but maybe a twin stroll exhaust housing and more boost :D
oohh twin scroll!! be nice to see if it helps spool up:cooter:
sounds like your sorted then:D iwill prob break my shafts next year:laugh::laugh:
oh well , might have a play with the gears when that happens:ashamed:
Yes andy its getting there. I've bitten off more than I can chew this winter, there's a lot going on with it. It's away having a national chassis cage done then it's off for paint and wrap while I build a new motor and gearbox.
Robbie, looking good :)
are you going sequential by any chance?:D
No Andy, sticking with H pattern :)
Those Obx items seem to do the job good after a debur, replacement of the ****ty springs and correct tightening of the bolts.
Twin scroll is a good step forward too, although for pod i don't really think it's necessary.
However you're making good progress! Did the jc5 break in the end?
turbo ted
25-11-2012, 01:38
Those Obx items seem to do the job good after a debur, replacement of the ****ty springs and correct tightening of the bolts.
Twin scroll is a good step forward too, although for pod i don't really think it's necessary.
However you're making good progress! Did the jc5 break in the end?
jc5 gearbox broke the planetary and sun gear in the diff theres no way of upgrading that pictures below you can see the sun gear twisted off and stuck in the end of the driveshaft.
car.crash
25-11-2012, 08:58
I bet as a child you used to break steel balls :laugh:
turbo ted
05-12-2012, 22:42
small update
engine mounts now done and all mounted on subframe as i didn't want to mount the gearbox on the chassie leg so i made frame over the gearbox and made a new mount position on the back of the subframe.
doing a power steering conversion aswell managed to fit a clio williams rack its tight but it fits:). also mounted the turbo in its new postion and made a new 3'' downpipe, manifold to do next i will leave that one to my fabricator which will be done over the christmas break.
thats all for now pictures below.
Looks the nuts rob well impressive mate :agree:
TNT ANDY
06-12-2012, 06:43
looking great Rob, you back at work now?
Robbie that is looking very impressive :agree::agree:
Looking good Robbie, but power steering :scratch: you getting a bit old & frail... :cooter:
Dave Reed
06-12-2012, 11:13
Looking good mate!
Looks like nice setup there. Are completely replacing the exhaust manifold or just reworking the old item?
turbo ted
06-12-2012, 21:22
hi everyone
the reason for power steering f7 lumps are heavy and now its going to be alot heavier with the vag box and i only have 300mm steering wheel,power steering will be ran off a electric pump so i won't lose any bhp:D,ollie the manifold is a complete new build and mr reed has bought the old one, new flywheel turned up today complements of scoff of efi parts and my new clutch from the states fits like a glove, fitted a mini master cylinder for my hydro clutch more pics added below robbie.
Looking very nice mate :agree:
What are the engine mounts off? Are they easily available?
hi everyone
the reason for power steering f7 lumps are heavy and now its going to be alot heavier with the vag box and i only have 300mm steering wheel,power steering will be ran off a electric pump so i won't lose any bhp:D,ollie the manifold is a complete new build and mr reed has bought the old one, new flywheel turned up today complements of scoff of efi parts and my new clutch from the states fits like a glove, fitted a mini master cylinder for my hydro clutch more pics added below robbie.
Bugger :( was hoping it was for sale
Spot on Ted, looks amazing !! :agree::)
turbo ted
06-12-2012, 22:22
Looking very nice mate :agree:
What are the engine mounts off? Are they easily available?
hi ashy there just rover v8 mounts i mod them do by cutting the thread stud off and drill through them so i can fit bolt through them and tighten them right down as i've had them v8 mounts snap apart before;)
All coming together now mate.. i was only pulling your leg about the power steering :D
Gonna be a beast once its finished thats for sure.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=15005&d=1354746723
holy **** Rob!!!! are you expecting something to twist:eek::eek::eek:
the cast alloy casing will break around the bolt holes before anything else, i thought mine where solid(could shift them with two of us pulling on the engine/subframe:laugh::laugh:
looking good though, how much does it weigh now? mine was 915kg before:laugh::laugh:
made a new inlet manifold out of 120mm alloy tube.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=11898&d=1325703907
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=11897&d=1325703907
Was this the orignal inlet with the end cut off then the plate and 120mm tube welded on? Looks exllent! :agree:
turbo ted
28-01-2013, 21:13
hi mate
its the original flange and runners cut off the standard manifold the rest i made by hand alot drilling and filing out the 4 holes on flat plate to match the original runners then 120mm diameter tube cut with a slot to the size of the flat plate welded to flat plate and end caps to match.
Is that all? :laugh: Fancy making another in a few months time? :D :cool:
turbo ted
28-01-2013, 23:45
make me an offer on that one and i will make another one;)
Temping... I'm in no rush at the moment, but if it was going at a bargain then who knows. :cool:
turbo ted
01-02-2013, 20:00
update new exhaust manifold pictures below
car.crash
01-02-2013, 20:03
That was quick, what's his work like?
It looks good.
Looking great rob how long till its all done and running full boost again mate
turbo ted
01-02-2013, 20:14
this manifold has bigger diameter tube and longer runners===more boost:smokin:
Looks really good Rob :smokin:
Dave Reed
01-02-2013, 20:46
Ooow sexy baby...
turbo ted
01-02-2013, 20:59
heres a link of fabricator facebook page who made the manifold
http://www.facebook.com/#!/Edwardsmotorsport37?fref=ts
TNT ANDY
01-02-2013, 22:14
V-nice:agree:
How much for your old tubular manifold?
How much for your old tubular manifold?
Check out post 84 mate. :scratch:
Looking good Robbie. :)
:eek: loving that manifold mate! :cool:
are you going to crank up the boost too? how the engine went before i can only imagine how it'll respond to more boost since the last head upgrades :agree:
Check out post 84 mate. :scratch:
Looking good Robbie. :)
Oh yeah lol forgot about that :rolleyes:
any more news on this Robbie? Been keeping my eye on this :D
turbo ted
11-03-2013, 13:53
not much happening at the moment due to no work or money:( but i had the subframe sand blasted and i fully seam welded and extra plated it and fitted williams power steering rack with 106 electric pump and the vw selector stick pictures added below.
turbo ted
13-04-2013, 22:43
update its alive and it moves with 6 forward gears:) pictures below should be ready for mot this day next week and then back to pod for end of may:smokin:
Dave Reed
13-04-2013, 23:08
Looking good robbie :agree:
Tony Walker
13-04-2013, 23:20
looks fantastic :)
JP Racing
13-04-2013, 23:46
Good stuff Robbie :) looks fantastic :D
Nottswoody
13-04-2013, 23:48
Awesome stuff.. Pod at the end may? Isit just a rwyb day?
Well done rob you've done a great job fingers crossed it all stays together now for you mate now crank up that booooooooooost :D
turbo ted
14-04-2013, 09:58
Awesome stuff.. Pod at the end may? Isit just a rwyb day?
test and tuneeeeeeeee 19th
Really admire these kinds of projects, a lot of thought and effort clearly going in:agree:
Nice one:agree::agree::cool:
Woznaldo
14-04-2013, 11:29
Really admire these kinds of projects, a lot of thought and effort clearly going in:agree:
Nice one:agree::agree::cool:
:agree: Couldn't have said it better.
yep 100%agree lot of effort going on here , great work:cool:
ps- any chance of some piccys of the anti flex struts that you fitted to the front wishbones :D i know you fabricated and fitted some ;) nobody has 500+bhp and lives with standard wishbone flex;)
me and jp oli are in need of some sooner rather than later , curious to which area they connect to:p
pps- good luck with the test and tune on friday:cool:
hope all goes as you expect it:cooter:
turbo ted
16-04-2013, 17:58
I've just used anti roll bar drop links off a Renault traffic van nice and cheap £20 off ebay, one end just bolts to the inside hole of the ball joint on wishbone and then just weld a small plate to subframe for the other end of drop link been running these when it was a c1j makes a big difference pulls 1.6 sixty foot at pod with these before only 1.9 picture attached
I've just used anti roll bar drop links off a Renault traffic van nice and cheap £20 off ebay, one end just bolts to the inside hole of the ball joint on wishbone and then just weld a small plate to subframe for the other end of drop link been running these when it was a c1j makes a big difference pulls 1.6 sixty foot at pod with these before only 1.9 picture attached
thanks Rob
i guess your going for 600 bhp this time :cool::D
I've just used anti roll bar drop links off a Renault traffic van nice and cheap £20 off ebay, one end just bolts to the inside hole of the ball joint on wishbone and then just weld a small plate to subframe for the other end of drop link been running these when it was a c1j makes a big difference pulls 1.6 sixty foot at pod with these before only 1.9 picture attached
Sweet, i need to get on this :D
Sweet, i need to get on this :D
So do I only had them in my box of bits to fit for the last four years. :laugh:
Looking good Rob. :)
car.crash
16-04-2013, 19:36
So do I only had them in my box of bits to fit for the last four years. :laugh:
Looking good Rob. :)
I fitted a set to my 5. Makes it more stable under heavy breaking aswell and the car stays straighter.
I dont have access to a welding set at the mo, do you think a heavy piece of plate bolted to the subframe will be adequate?
car.crash
16-04-2013, 22:56
I don't see why it wouldn't work. There isn't much room though and your wheels may catch slightly on full lock so allow for that.
Mine did anyway and I welded mine.
turbo ted
16-04-2013, 22:58
if you can get two bolts in the plate it should be fine but you need to keep the plate small and tight to the subframe so the wheels clear on full lock.
vivaro links are even cheaper :D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=traffic+drop+links&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Some amazeball over-engineering and fabrication, love it :D :agree:
How did you get on Friday then Rob?
i read on the engine-dynamics website that the injectors were maxed out. what injectors are you running mate?
more importantly than that, what power did it make, and where did the gt35 run out of puff......... it had to be somewhere close to or maybe, just maybe slightly above the 600 bhp mark :cooter:;):cool:
you have been very quiet about the tune day for the last few days:laugh::laugh::D
you have been very quiet about the tune day for the last few days:laugh::laugh::D
19th of may robbie said. Your a month to early. :)
19th of may robbie said. Your a month to early. :)
oopsss:cooter::laugh::laugh:
oopsss:cooter::laugh::laugh:
But you never know Robbie may cross the line so quick that his fluxcapacitor malfunctions and end up back in April.
any news on this yet? been a bit quiet lately :D
http://ladygeekgirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mother-of-god-meme-rage-face.jpg
Wow. Just wow!
Quick question - who made up the PAS pipe which joins to the electric pump? I asked loads of pneumatic specialists around my area and nobody had the correct parts to make me one.
turbo ted
09-07-2013, 19:41
thinkautomotive will make you power steering lines, slight set back a the moment with the car and im to busy at work aswell but should be back out for the end of season:devil:
turbo ted
15-01-2014, 00:20
just thought I update this thread well had I few problems with this vw gearbox conversion at the end of last year when I ran at santa pod I broke a driveshaft straight away and destroyed the gearbox aswell at the same time ,because I had a cheap lsd fitted when the driveshaft snapped the diff exploded and destroyed the hole gearbox. So now I got a fully rebuilt gearbox again but this time its fitted with a proper quaife diff and life time warranty.
also fitted new intercooler and changed inlet manifold throttle position and running coil plugs now instead of a coil pack.
that's it for now but the car is ready to rock and make some boost pictures added below regards turboted
Dave Reed
15-01-2014, 07:55
Blimey Robbie.. I never new you destroyed to G/B :(
Crikey Robb, the cheap LSD is that not the same one Scoff uses?
As always your work looks fantastic:agree:
Hope the gearbox issue will be over now mate!
Exactly the reason why i used a quaiffe right away!
Looks awesome as always btw, what cops are they?
Looks like they fit perfectly on the f7's head.
turbo ted
15-01-2014, 09:33
i had that OBX diff from the usa a quaife copy it just fell apart when the shaft broke, the coil plugs are off a civic type R there pretty much a straight fit Arthur regards turboted
Good work Rob, I hope to see this run sometime this year so keep us updated when you are hitting Pod.
I know you are moving back across to the emerald isle, will you still be popping over for events ?
JP Racing
15-01-2014, 10:39
well done ted looks the nuts. I thought about using a OBX diff but had a good look at the reviews and decided against it. Hope to see your car up and running this year be good to have another chat too. Really should pull my finger out today so i can start to refit my engine soon not much to do to mine to have it running again :)
Good to see the cops fit that good, i did buy a wasted spark coil from Chris but fancy cops more.
No more leads, look cleaner and they are strong too!
Will look into fitting them on my turbo engine too as the standard ignition doesn't cope well with 330bhp
Dare i ask how much you paid for the coils?
Crikey Robb, the cheap LSD is that not the same one Scoff uses?
As always your work looks fantastic:agree:
I tried one in 2011, it lasted 1 outing and welded itself shut. Quaife after that.
Looking good rob :)
see the video of it boosting down the street other day. Looks like a lot of fun to say the least!
I tried one in 2011, it lasted 1 outing and welded itself shut. Quaife after that.
Looking good rob :)
:agree:
Love your car robbie! Cant wait to see it go this year! need mine on road soon as too :D
turbo ted
15-01-2014, 14:24
Good work Rob, I hope to see this run sometime this year so keep us updated when you are hitting Pod.
I know you are moving back across to the emerald isle, will you still be popping over for events ?
steve I doubt I will be at pod this year at event maybe for a test tune day or next year if RTOC could sort out our own pod day so you can get a lot of runs in,
I have found my new stomping ground in Ireland not quite santa pod but I should be able to teach all these jap boys in Ireland what a Renault is all about.
https://www.facebook.com/bishopscourtairfieldcircuit?fref=ts
Arthur the coil plugs are second hand, I found civic type r k20 engine breaking 4 coil plugs and complete wiring loom £120 all in.
testing vid below of my new lsd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iZBm2lrvo&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ&feature=c4-overview
Sounds nuts mate! Have you tried upping the boost yet? :D
turbo ted
15-01-2014, 18:47
Sounds nuts mate! Have you tried upping the boost yet? :Dare you for real Arthur that's 2bar will see do as its back at efi-parts at the end of the month;)
Outstanding work, love the car. Sounds great in the video :cool:
are you for real Arthur that's 2bar will see do as its back at efi-parts at the end of the month;)
Never enough init? :cooter:
steve I doubt I will be at pod this year at event maybe for a test tune day or next year if RTOC could sort out our own pod day so you can get a lot of runs in,
I have found my new stomping ground in Ireland not quite santa pod but I should be able to teach all these jap boys in Ireland what a Renault is all about.
https://www.facebook.com/bishopscourtairfieldcircuit?fref=ts
Arthur the coil plugs are second hand, I found civic type r k20 engine breaking 4 coil plugs and complete wiring loom £120 all in.
testing vid below of my new lsd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iZBm2lrvo&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ&feature=c4-overview
Did they lay that new tarmac just for you Robbie ? Tell them to prep it next time :wasntme:
pascal-GT
16-01-2014, 11:47
this a crazy car!!!:D
turbo ted
25-01-2014, 20:43
another update
had a full 3'' custom rear exit exhaust system built with full large flowing silencer fitted parallel to rear bumper, and there is no issue with the 3'' pipe hitting the bodywork or rear axle. pictures added and link of fabricator added:)
https://www.facebook.com/Edwardsmotorsport37?fref=ts
all good that mate! Any vids of how it sounds?
Looks tight mate! What did you have before?
Is it the same lad who made the mani?
Pretty clear you have a job again mate, progress is looking good :D
turbo ted
07-02-2014, 21:15
hello rtoc
had the car back up at scoffs last weekend and we managed to squeeze a few more ponies
with the new full 3'' exhaust system and bigger intercooler setup,
at 30psi the f7p made 585hp 410 torque:D
Lovely mate, told you to crack up the boost after the new head :D
B18ftMOJO5
07-02-2014, 22:14
Great thread loving the power and the sound is awesome....:) much respect for these engines.:smokin:
JP Racing
07-02-2014, 22:50
Well done Ted they are really good figures. Now time to see what it does on the strip ;)
turbo ted
17-03-2014, 21:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1gVxpbor38&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ
Awesome result mate, really!
:niceone:
All that effort paying off, what a machine Rob..........very very impressed!
Hopefully one day you'll cross the water and get it to a Surrey meet, then I can persuade you to take me out in it:D
:cool:very cool rob, now how about that gt4202 unit ;) you know you want 850bhp:laugh:
and sqs sequential dog box :cooter:
Lol, you like to agitate him don't you?:laugh:
When's yours finally done?
Ok, with graphs like that, that's as much power and torque as anyone needs in a FWD street-spec GTT on pump fuel. Please, it's time to stop! :laugh:
Lol, you like to agitate him don't you?:laugh:
When's yours finally done?
wont do anymore until my workshop is built and powered up;)
which i'm hoping to do this year sometime:ashamed:
i dont agitate, just a gentle prod for more power:cool:, if i could live with lag, and could handle the rear end better, i would push for 500+bhp, :smokin:
oh wait a minute..... i am:laugh::laugh: might be a bit to much to ask on my gtx3071r even with a .82 turbine housing:p
turbo ted
18-03-2014, 21:09
you need lag helps you get the power down but lag on a 16v engine that your reving to 8700rpm is none-existant.
living in Ireland now cars storied in my dads haybarn at the moment but im building my own garage for the cars and work shop aswell too.
B18ftMOJO5
18-03-2014, 21:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1gVxpbor38&list=UUJmttOnEcRevFh8yDvW9JlQ
Nice vid liking the rubber tracks on the rd. Btw whose is the gold monaco? Its my cars twin...lol
turbo ted
18-03-2014, 22:41
that Monaco was a mint tungsten grey 1.4 auto with power steering it was our daily driver but I wrote off a few weeks ago went into back of sprinter van at 20mph:cry:
Save the interior if it's in good nick!
B18ftMOJO5
20-03-2014, 18:23
Man sorry to hear that. I will buy the plastic trim bits on the rear quaters...mine fell off:( lol. I wiuld also take the rear bumper. Steering wheel and possibly some interior bits. If its still available.
B18ftMOJO5
20-03-2014, 18:26
Just realised its grey need to get to specsavers lol. Still take some parts if available. Ill send you a pm later. Thanks
turbo ted
20-03-2014, 19:50
I broke the car straight away all the parts are gone sorry.
just a thought, would a piper 300 cam be the next upgrade or possibly 320, help get a bit more gas flowing :cooter:
B18ftMOJO5
26-03-2014, 21:56
Is that pic of whats left? Because the bit i need is still on there. I was imagining a future b18ft auto in a monaco. Seems an easy swap.what you think??
turbo ted
26-03-2014, 22:16
just a thought, would a piper 300 cam be the next upgrade or possibly 320, help get a bit more gas flowing :cooter:upgrade e85 race fuel:devil:
Wow, what a machine! :smokin:
Is your turbo surging on boost in that last RR vid?
turbo ted
26-03-2014, 22:41
Wow, what a machine! :smokin:
Is your turbo surging on boost in that last RR vid?
yes it is surging when it starts to make boost at low rpm
yes it is surging when it starts to make boost at low rpm
Ah, I thought I could hear it. Is that a problem?
wilton_warrior
05-04-2014, 21:49
quality read up and build. :agree:
turbo ted
01-09-2014, 11:33
the last outing at pod retro car show I managed to break my spec r clutch don't know how but it broke pictures added.
turbo ted
01-09-2014, 11:46
started to get the ready for Saturday night special in September last week I fitted a new clutch along with new engine mounts that I got off JP Racing from rtoc and have to say they work great and drive with no vibrations pictures added.
turbo ted
01-09-2014, 12:22
now for the bad part massive engine failure on Friday I wasn't even driving the car or over reving the engine just warming the engine up in my garage and at 5000rpm the engine stopped and failed so took all the plugs out and found on number 2 cylinder it has dropped an exhaust valve straight through a piston,
reason not sure yet but I think the standard exhaust valves just cannot cope with the heat my engine makes now.
so a new rebuild over the winter with some super strong titanium valves of some sort,
regards Robbie
pictures added of the mess
rabbitstew
01-09-2014, 13:59
number 2 cylinder it has dropped an exhaust valve straight through a piston,
That sucks! I had the same thing happen on a brand spanking new Ducati 748S I bought back in 2000. Did 500 miles over a couple of months and bang, had a valve drop straight into one cylinder. Took it back to Ducati as it was under warranty and they took 3 months to fix it. Nightmare.
Not having much luck do you? Damn, and that while not even giving it the beans:crap:
this is about the sadiest :cry:news ive had in ages, but the black weapon will be back I know:agree:
Nottswoody
01-09-2014, 20:59
Gutted for you bud.. If anyone can sort it you can and in the new garage aswell :) comfy :agree:
Benjibrady
01-09-2014, 23:16
Robbie do you just need to replace that piston and the head, or the whole lot?
Was looking at the pictures and the rest look okay?
turbo ted
02-09-2014, 00:02
should be okay with one new piston with rings and new set rings for the rest with a light honing of the block
new main bearing as well and full gasket head set, the cylinder could be saved but not taking any chances lucky enough i brought a spare head with me from the uk when I moved as these valvers engines are none existence over here in Ireland,
the new cylinder head will be completely rebuilt new valve guides,seats and supertech nitride valves.
one other upgrade I did before the engine went pop fitted a new anti surge housing to the garrett gt35r which has stopped the surging now before full boost pictures added new turbo housing regards robbie
Matt Cole
15-09-2014, 19:22
Any updates ted?
turbo ted
31-12-2014, 17:50
Update gone for a complete new rebuild,
New re-boried block f7p,
New f7r head ported and polished by me and new supertech valves,
New wossner pistons with extra deep machined valve pockets,
New mls head gasket acl race bearings etc,
Pictures added will update more when cars up and running
turbo ted
31-12-2014, 17:51
Picture
Matt Cole
31-12-2014, 19:02
At last! Pretty much my favourite 5.;)
Should be a good 2015 for RTOC.:D:yeah:
turbo ted
03-01-2015, 23:17
Engine complete today head on and fitted some cat cam pulleys happy days so far
Bot hanging about do you:agree:
awesome work robstar are you coming to pod for retro day all being well??
Robbie Looking good :agree:
All good rob! Cannot wait to see this go :D
turbo ted
04-01-2015, 01:00
awesome work robstar are you coming to pod for retro day all being well??
Cannot wait for retro show and Saturday night special in march :smokin:
Jesus, that is gona be a beast!!! :goodJob:
Woznaldo
18-01-2015, 00:09
I love your attitude to this car. If it breaks, upgrade and move on! Awesome work as usual.:cool:
Matt Cole
18-01-2015, 10:35
Great stuff. Look forward to having a chat about this. One of two cars I would like a neb over the other being Pete Cole's .:agree:
turbo ted
18-01-2015, 10:50
I need to pull me finger out and drop the lump back in this week and get this running:)
quick as Always! any shots of the diy porting?
turbo ted
18-01-2015, 14:21
Yes I have but crap iPad pictures the inlet was ported on the head already so I went mad on the exhaust side:)
Inspirational as ever:cool: builds like this and scoff's and a few others help to motivate me with mine:agree:
Love the way you just keep on getting faster and faster:burnrubber::burnrubber:
Crappy pic indeed:cooter:
I did a basic head port yesterdag for Jan's f7r
turbo ted
18-02-2015, 13:00
Fitted New front extra wide wheel arches on yesterday pretty good fit next will be extra wide 9 inch drag slicks ordered today 5/6 weeks before delivery:(
turbo ted
18-02-2015, 13:01
Another pic
turbo ted
18-02-2015, 13:02
And again
FlashbangGtt
18-02-2015, 19:01
Looks pukka...
Where's my carbon bonnet hiding?
turbo ted
18-02-2015, 20:00
Alright Dave good to here from you,carbon bonnet is there to one side got carbon front grill and rear arches aswell:D
FlashbangGtt
18-02-2015, 20:11
Alright Dave good to here from you,carbon bonnet is there to one side got carbon front grill and rear arches aswell:D
:smokin:
It's all about the carbon...
Looking mint rob! Ever sell your grill and bumper deffo msg me :smokin:
Woznaldo
18-02-2015, 21:00
Are those Arch Extensions some of Tony Hart's finest?
Looking good.
That is looking dam fine!:agree::agree::cool:
Robbie, that is looking great can't wait to see it in action
turbo ted
19-02-2015, 09:43
Are those Arch Extensions some of Tony Hart's finest?
Looking good.
Yes one of only two sets made by Prima racing:)
Woznaldo
20-02-2015, 08:49
Yes one of only two sets made by Prima racing:)
Are we going to find Tony face down in the lake?....:scared:
turbo ted
28-05-2015, 23:50
Prima racing front fitted and extended down to skirt to look oe and bumper made wider to match arches all work was do by haz's in liverpool
turbo ted
28-05-2015, 23:51
Another picture
Robbie this is looking great, really aggressive stance:agree:
Ok they look great now they have been worked in with the rest of the car. Awesome. :)
Looking forward to seeing this blast up the strip at the retro show in a few weeks time :cool:
turbo ted
31-05-2015, 22:32
Wide Front end view
jamie_clioGTT
02-06-2015, 22:47
this is just :eek: best looking 5 I have possibly ever seen. love it.
B18ftMOJO5
02-06-2015, 23:15
Looks awesome :smokin: how wide are your front wheels btw?
Matt Cole
03-06-2015, 12:51
Awesome!:agree:
turbo ted
29-11-2015, 10:03
Few more pics or picture no matter what I do I can only load one picture at a time:crap:
Few more pics or picture no matter what I do I can only load one picture at a time:crap:
Just crazy power:agree::agree:
turbo ted
29-11-2015, 11:51
Dirty 5
francob80
29-11-2015, 13:07
Amazing, just bonkers. :)
danr5Gtt
29-11-2015, 19:19
Amazing car, and a cracking guy. :agree:
Now she needs a wash. :)
Matt Cole
29-11-2015, 20:39
Robbie, what you done to the wishbones etc?
turbo ted
12-02-2016, 22:41
2015 December issue of performancefrenchcars:)
james uploaded to files section too rob
turbo ted
18-03-2018, 20:08
Hello Rtoc
It's been a while since I updated this thread got nothing to update at the moment but upgrades coming soon as I'm on
a missing for retro 2018;)
Matt Cole
19-03-2018, 18:08
Hurry up Rob, been waiting since 2015!!!:D
turbo ted
15-04-2018, 23:59
Something arrived from the states another spec r clutch
32115
Hope this ones lasts the weekend for pod
Matt Cole
17-04-2018, 08:34
What's that rated to Rob?
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