View Full Version : Side/headlight Problem HELP needed pleeze
ok put mikes new headlights on today getting ready for the mot, thought id check it all out, ive got a fault!
all 3 lights work correctly BUT when i put the sidelights on, the headlights both come on half strength also
when i turn the stalk to dip it works fine also when i do main it works fine
Any idea i want to get the mot sorted asap
thanx in advance peeps mick
Most likely poor earth! There a bunch together on a ten mill bolt below the light, best to whip the bumper off for easy accesses, give it a good clean up. :agree:
i manually earthed bulb to battery and no difference sir:cry::cry:
Do you get the same problem with and without engine running? :confused:
Do you get the same problem with and without engine running? :confused:
yes ignition off and ignition on and running both the same:cry::cry:
Markey Mark (BD)
10-04-2014, 08:16
I bet its done to the wiring mate, check both pos and neg wires going to the bulb holders on both renew it if needs be.
9 times out of 10 headlight issues i've seen have bene down to the wiring
I bet its done to the wiring mate, check both pos and neg wires going to the bulb holders on both renew it if needs be.
9 times out of 10 headlight issues i've seen have bene down to the wiring
thx sir im going to take bumper off and check it all out in abit, ill report back, if it is the wires what points would you run new wire from mark
thx again boss:agree:
right really p1ss1ng me off now this car, i removed all the headlights and bumper and cleaned the earths, still the same i then removed all relays its still the same
but it only DOES it with ignition ON not when off
im getting 7volt on the white dip wire when the ignition is on too when it should be 0v, im at a lose id rather rebuild a engine than do a wiring fault, typical right at the end before the mot, a mate alone the road said i should check the rear clusters incase its casing the problem, ive checking the haynes manual but im not that sure, i followed the loom on the os and it goes in the chassis:scratch::scratch:
couldnt follow it further
pleeze help thx mick
The loom comes out inside the car footwell area! :agree: Big rubber bung that comes out at a 90 deg. You may have a broken wire somewhere, so when ing on, some thing else is sending/taking power by the sounds of things? Just thinking out loud here.
The loom comes out inside the car footwell area! :agree: Big rubber bung that comes out at a 90 deg. You may have a broken wire somewhere, so when ing on, some thing else is sending/taking power by the sounds of things? Just thinking out loud here.
thx goobs which footwell matey??
im p1ssed to say the least this is hopefully it for the mot, maybe ill call the station to see if this will pass??:laugh:
Here, just dug out a pic if that's any help, you can see where the other end comes into the cock pit, one either side. Maybe try swapping one over if you got a spare if any just to rule that out? :confused:
http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p651/GoobieAli/imagejpg1_zps9dc459fe.jpg
thx goobs which footwell matey??
im p1ssed to say the least this is hopefully it for the mot, maybe ill call the station to see if this will pass??:laugh:
Passenger side is the one with the "death connecter" on the end! :agree:
well thanx goobs so 1 each side, i dont have any spares?? what would i need the looms on both side, so looks like carpet up then
b@llox i hate 5s, that why i sold mine, typical the boys bought it back:cry::cry:
I can't remember as was a year ago I pulled it all out. :laugh: So looking forward to putting it all back in. :wasntme: The other side, I "think" does things like fogs lights etc? :confused: Without having a proper look I can't really say.
Chase back the wiring off the lights and that will be the side your want to have a look at. :agree:
Most likely some where between the short bit of the loom could be the problem? But best to pull any casing/cover off the loom where possible engine bay side to try look for damaged wires. Just remember, clean clean and more clean! Just because they look clean, doesn't mean they are, this is a Renault were talking about remember. :laugh:
Side note, it may pass like that, as long as they only light up when switched, mot man may not notice? Could be down to him if low/poor output is a fail or advisory. :agree: Although, it's not really recommend safety wise to have dull lights. :)
thanx goobie what side does the loom enter for the headlights then??
no matey its only on side light position this once switched for to full the dip and main work correctly :agree:
I think it's the passenger side. :agree: Well, if you can't find the fault, you may get a pass with it like that then going by what you said buddy. :cool:
ive just looked in the haynes manual going by the wiring diagram theres 1 each side there both separate sir:cry:
Ive got a similar problem my side lights have stopped work front and rear drivers side no power to them are the both connected through the sane circuit?
Ive got a similar problem my side lights have stopped work front and rear drivers side no power to them are the both connected through the sane circuit?
yours is easy to fix just jump the wire from the working side if you dont want to feck around with the loom matey:agree::agree:
DAY 3
found where the multi plugs entered cockpit and did a visual/disconnect/reconnect with some wd40 all looks good no rusty connections or broken wires
when the plugs were disconnected the 7v connection on the dip wire went, i think the stalk maybe at fault as it on both sides at the same time
to replace the stalk do you need to lower the inner steering coupling?? as it wont pass the top part of the dash again thanx mick:agree:
If you don't want to be yanking your dash about and risk something snapping then I would recommend unbolting the collum. Two bolts and two nuts, can be a bit tricky. I think the stork is 2/3 trox screws. :agree:
thx goobs ive ordered stalk and hazard switch as mikes dont stay on, well ive checked all wiring im hoping the stalk is faulty but my mate recons it should be ok on mot, who knows matey:agree:
Worth a go. :cool: If don't pass at least ya have a check list I guess. :laugh:
Does it do it with ignition on only? My old renault 11 turbo used to do this with ign on. It will pass an mot ok.
Does it do it with ignition on only? My old renault 11 turbo used to do this with ign on. It will pass an mot ok.
yes matey exactly ign on only, did you get to the bottom of it?? ive ordered al stalk but its more than likely not that, would the ballast resistor on os skuttle be the problem boss?
To be honest mate most cars do it. You might be trying to fix something thats not a problem?
well i needed a hazard switch anywayz for mot so ill fit it then get it down there, well least i know it will pass on front suspension and rack its all new or recon:laugh:
Sorry to say you are looking for a problem that IS NOT there...
Most early french cars have , what is called , a dim dip relay... when you switch on the lights it does power up the headlights... dim dip.... ... its how they are made and it shows that the wiring is OK..
this is perfectly normal.. sorry to tell you after you have spent time trying to FIX it...
Sorry to say you are looking for a problem that IS NOT there...
Most early french cars have , what is called , a dim dip relay... when you switch on the lights it does power up the headlights... dim dip.... ... its how they are made and it shows that the wiring is OK..
this is perfectly normal.. sorry to tell you after you have spent time trying to FIX it...
Exactly what i thought Paul, nothing to fix:agree:
ok guys thanx i dont care as long its passes the mot anyway but it wasnt like this on the car before thanx again apprec mick
Does it do it with ignition on only? My old renault 11 turbo used to do this with ign on. It will pass an mot ok.
you were right about some rens doing this, mateys extra van does it down the road jon, well mot booked for thursday so atleast that should be ok :agree:
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