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Wallace
01-03-2014, 08:03
Hey all,

So I'm out of hospital after an operation and slightly inoperable at the minute - and for a while now I've been wanting to replace all the above......so I thought whilst I'm house bound I could order the bits I need from the internet.

Can you help me with what sizes, lengths, makes etc I'd need to redo the whole car please? And if possible some links?

I'm after:

Fuel hoses (semi-braided I believe?)

Fuel pipes (copper?)

Brake pipes (copper?)

Thank you guys:agree::agree:

JP Racing
01-03-2014, 08:24
I had my eye on this for the brake lines :)

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/251174385506?nav=SEARCH

Woznaldo
01-03-2014, 09:04
For std replacement fuel hoses you'll need some 5/16" ID EFI Rubber Hose (the pressure is high in the hoses behind the FPR, non EFI hoses won't be up to it.

For rigid lines you can use 5/16" (8mm) OD copper 'microbore' pipe. You can pick this up from B&Q for around GBP25-30 I think.

Rigid Brake Lines as above (use the copper/knickel or not the pure copper) and some Goodridge Braided flex hoses. Euro Car Parts or GSF used to sell them pretty cheap, but you could also try Mike or CGB also.

evogill
01-03-2014, 10:18
iv jut done mine, I used steel pipe like original stuff, its olive green colour. need a pipe bender to bend and a lot of patients due to been more stiffer than copper. the best thing with this is its very straight when fitted. not weavy like other stuff. depends how neat and how easy you want the job to be? bought it from carlton hydrolics. they have places round country. hopefully be posting some more images on tonite in restorations,, theres some pics of fuel and brake lines.

Wallace
01-03-2014, 16:20
Perfect:agree:

Nice one guys, I can start looking online and getting the bits ordered:D:agree:

Wallace
01-03-2014, 16:55
I know there's nothing worse than someone stating 'you need this' and possibly ignoring that advice:wasntme:

But if the psi operating limits are true, is this not suitable?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-6-8-mm-5-16-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Fuel-Hose-1M-/310317860661?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item484062c735

JP Racing
01-03-2014, 20:42
I know there's nothing worse than someone stating 'you need this' and possibly ignoring that advice:wasntme:

But if the psi operating limits are true, is this not suitable?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-6-8-mm-5-16-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Fuel-Hose-1M-/310317860661?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item484062c735

Yes that should do the trick as i use something very similar and have a bosch 044 pump to boot ;) can work out expensive once you add all the fittings on. Im currently needing a few more futtings as ive just put a second set of injectors in and need some y shaped fittings and they are £20 each with out other fittings i need too :crap:

Wallace
01-03-2014, 22:54
Cheers Jon:agree:

Did think it would be up to the job, especially as I'm not running major fuel pressure or boost and all that!

Although sounds like you wish you'd never started with yours, always the way though, the finishing parts are where you end up losing the money (or should I say spending the money)....£5 here, £10 there, all adds up...

tiff_lee
03-03-2014, 02:29
When I replaced the steel fuel lines on my Calibra I used nylon tubing, it's pretty much the same size as the original lines just without any risk or corrosion and somewhat flexible as well.

I also made all my own brake lines, 'cunifer' (copper nickle) pipe is a bit more expensive than normal copper pipe but it doesn't work harden as fast when putting bends in and making adjustments.

Wallace
03-03-2014, 08:28
When I replaced the steel fuel lines on my Calibra I used nylon tubing, it's pretty much the same size as the original lines just without any risk or corrosion and somewhat flexible as well.

I also made all my own brake lines, 'cunifer' (copper nickle) pipe is a bit more expensive than normal copper pipe but it doesn't work harden as fast when putting bends in and making adjustments.


I've ordered the copper/nickel for the brake lines, and once I start doing it, I was going to look at what's actually involved in doing the fuel hoses......at the minute I can't for the life of me remember how's it routed or anything, so until I've looked I'll wait to order.

Nylon sounds good, I was thinking the other night that I won't actually going SS braided, just not necessary and IMO not actually a good idea!

Thanks for your help/advice mate:agree:

mk5gtt
03-03-2014, 11:23
Hi just a bit of a adivise/warning some of the cheaper fuel hose on ebay is crap the inside of the hose deteriates and breaks down blocking the jets on the carb and lines. I would buy the parts from a good uk buisness. This happend after about 6 months of being fitted . Now gone efi and bought nylon braid pipe and alloy fitting and you can tell the quality and feel is alot better. Hope this helps.

Wallace
03-03-2014, 11:29
Hi just a bit of a adivise/warning some of the cheaper fuel hose on ebay is crap the inside of the hose deteriates and breaks down blocking the jets on the carb and lines. I would buy the parts from a good uk buisness. This happend after about 6 months of being fitted . Now gone efi and bought nylon braid pipe and alloy fitting and you can tell the quality and feel is alot better. Hope this helps.

:agree:

tiff_lee
03-03-2014, 11:32
I've ordered the copper/nickel for the brake lines, and once I start doing it, I was going to look at what's actually involved in doing the fuel hoses......at the minute I can't for the life of me remember how's it routed or anything, so until I've looked I'll wait to order.

Nylon sounds good, I was thinking the other night that I won't actually going SS braided, just not necessary and IMO not actually a good idea!

Thanks for your help/advice mate:agree:
I used some nylon tubing like this, search around for a good deal i'm sure I got 30m for around £15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-NYLON-PNEUMATIC-TUBING-AIRLINE-AIR-PIPE-/110828977730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item19cdebfe42


Use injection hose for the tight bends etc and get some inserts for the end where you will be clamping the injection hose on. I used 'o' clips as it was alot neater than jubilees especially where the fixings were to be permanent i.e not where hose goes onto fuel filter.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nylon-Polyurethane-Internal-Tubing-Reinforcement-Tube-Support-Metric-Pipe-Insert-/271143300843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f21666eeb

With regards to making your own brake lines and depending on how much money you want to spend you can buy vice mounted flaring tools.

I bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-PIPE-FLARING-TOOL-VICE-MOUNTED-PROFESSIONAL-BRITISH-MADE-/370607922584?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehic le_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item5649f41d98

again I got mine cheaper (under £100) but infinitely better than the cheap hand flaring tools and the flares were perfect.

Wallace
03-03-2014, 19:01
I used some nylon tubing like this, search around for a good deal i'm sure I got 30m for around £15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-NYLON-PNEUMATIC-TUBING-AIRLINE-AIR-PIPE-/110828977730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item19cdebfe42


Use injection hose for the tight bends etc and get some inserts for the end where you will be clamping the injection hose on. I used 'o' clips as it was alot neater than jubilees especially where the fixings were to be permanent i.e not where hose goes onto fuel filter.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nylon-Polyurethane-Internal-Tubing-Reinforcement-Tube-Support-Metric-Pipe-Insert-/271143300843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f21666eeb

With regards to making your own brake lines and depending on how much money you want to spend you can buy vice mounted flaring tools.

I bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-PIPE-FLARING-TOOL-VICE-MOUNTED-PROFESSIONAL-BRITISH-MADE-/370607922584?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehic le_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item5649f41d98

again I got mine cheaper (under £100) but infinitely better than the cheap hand flaring tools and the flares were perfect.


Your a good man:agree:

Thank you again:agree:

Jimmy_GTT
05-03-2014, 17:25
Just a question about the brake lines. Are the original ones made from steel or copper?
Thanks

Junglist
05-03-2014, 19:12
I think the brake lines are steel with a plastic coating