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After watching and examining few pics and about a hour of measuring I decided to give it a try. Mission was to fit universal IC dimensions 550mm long, 140mm high and 65mm thick without cutting even smallest part of slam panel. And... I did it!
Two modification are required. You need to cut little bit of towing eye and there is no space for lower bumper brackets but IC is holding bumper even more tight than with those same brackets. No BS. There is also space for the fog lights but I'm after white ones so It will be like this for week or two.
Here are few pics and if you need any info, just ask. I know this isn't rocket science but think that lot of people would like to do the same thing.
gttjames
12-01-2009, 20:21
good work.
Am in the process of fitting a 550x180x65, so have cut the bottom strip off the slam panal. Just gota pipe it all up.
Put the bumper back on and dont even have to cut any of it if i didnt want, but might loose abit maybe
gttjames
14-01-2009, 18:33
heres mine so far
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=262&pictureid=3746
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=262&pictureid=3744
is that gana fit behind the standard bumper james without it being cut? and with fog lights? cheers
rs250nut
14-01-2009, 22:50
I need an intercooler that will fit behind a standard front bumper, that looks quite good
Both (James and mine) fit under the standard bumper without cutting. You can fit foglights if you use 90 degree pipe on inlet and outlet of the IC just like James did.
gttjames
15-01-2009, 13:52
am strugerling...
intecooler fits ok, just the 90 bend is touching the back of the foglight bit, and iv allready had to cut off the bottom bumper mounts.
Looks like if i get the bumper on, when fitting foglights the screw will go into the hose?
any ideas?
gttjames
15-01-2009, 13:53
After watching and examining few pics and about a hour of measuring I decided to give it a try. Mission was to fit universal IC dimensions 550mm long, 140mm high and 65mm thick without cutting even smallest part of slam panel. And... I did it!
Two modification are required. You need to cut little bit of towing eye and there is no space for lower bumper brackets but IC is holding bumper even more tight than with those same brackets. No BS. There is also space for the fog lights but I'm after white ones so It will be like this for week or two.
Here are few pics and if you need any info, just ask. I know this isn't rocket science but think that lot of people would like to do the same thing.
i see, you have mangaged to get yours to sit further back than mine.
i cant do that though as its allready right back on the crossmember
jantheeven
15-01-2009, 23:05
Great info Jure! :agree:
Where did you buy the IC?
Mine is from Wiltec. It is same as this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Front-mounted-turbo-INTERCOOLER-typ-004-UNIVERSAL_W0QQitemZ250353372033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2503533 72033&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18
but there is plenty of sellers around heaving same dimensions ICs. It is great quality product :agree:
jantheeven
16-01-2009, 11:37
Mine is from Wiltec. It is same as this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Front-mounted-turbo-INTERCOOLER-typ-004-UNIVERSAL_W0QQitemZ250353372033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2503533 72033&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18
but there is plenty of sellers around heaving same dimensions ICs. It is great quality product :agree:
Good stuff! But does this IC really cool much better than my double capacity alloy unit? Yours doesn't look too big... but I'm sure it catches more wind than an IC in the o.e. position, right?
There was great article about IC capacities on the old site. I remember that standard GTT was around 2.8 litres, double capacity ones were from 4.2 to 5.4 (i think) and mine is 5 litres. I decided on this setup because of, as you mentioned, better air flow and I can automatcly place air filer just behind the grill. Also, few months ago you couldn't buy double capacity IC (new) for less than 300 quids and this one cost next to nothing.
I made some calculation and think that I got right size of the IC. I took in to consideration increase of the boost, size of the turbo, reving and inlet/outlet modifications. It wasn't something complicated but only how much each thing was increased in percentage and I increased capacity of the IC accordigly.
Matt Cole
16-01-2009, 13:10
Chaps this is mine which i need to get behind the front bumper withough hacking it to bits. Now cutting the front cross member is this wise??
The size is 595 (hose outlet end to end) x 180 x 63. Core size is 545mm
gttjames
16-01-2009, 18:45
Did like you did jure, and trimmed abit of the towing eye bracket. Is still tight with the hoses on the back of the fog bit on the bumper, to get the fogs in will have to do abit more modding, looks possible though.
Have got a silicone 90deg reducer, so its 57mm off the ic outlets, am think if i got some straight reducers that go 57-51mm off the ic outlet, then onto a 51mm alloy 90 deg bend will this be any better?
jantheeven
18-01-2009, 14:37
Jure... where did you get that oil cooler mate? And the braided feed lines? :)
MR TURBO
18-01-2009, 14:52
Jure... where did you get that oil cooler mate? And the braided feed lines? :)
This looks quite similar http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=363&pic=1
jantheeven
18-01-2009, 15:04
I think that K-Tec unit is smaller... and probably more expensive too ;)
But I do think you don't really need a bigger one than the K-Tec thing... am I correct?
MR TURBO
18-01-2009, 15:07
looks a good enough size to me :agree:
Jure... where did you get that oil cooler mate? And the braided feed lines? :)
It is Mocal universal 13 row cooler and lines were made by local hydraulic specialist shop. Cost in total 80 quids :agree:
jantheeven
20-01-2009, 12:17
heres mine so far
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=262&pictureid=3746
Mate... that front member is certainly modified. Did you buy the car like this or what did you do with it? Compare it to Jure's cross member...
gt_maxer
20-01-2009, 12:25
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
go grill mounted, much easier, no modifying required and less pipe run.
jantheeven
20-01-2009, 13:41
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
go grill mounted, much easier, no modifying required and less pipe run.
That's an option... but I don't like the idea of the i/c partially blocking the air flow to the rad
MR TURBO
20-01-2009, 14:00
That's an option... but I don't like the idea of the i/c partially blocking the air flow to the rad
Dave Kirk says this is not a problem during our convo about GMIC's
jantheeven
20-01-2009, 15:21
Still not convinced... ;)
Opinions people??
gttjames
20-01-2009, 18:59
Mate... that front member is certainly modified. Did you buy the car like this or what did you do with it? Compare it to Jure's cross member...
it was the same as jures before i cut it.
i removed the bottom strip off it, and most off the 2 plates that are on jures, left the corner though
MR TURBO
20-01-2009, 19:21
700mmx140mmx65mm : This is the size of mine being done :D
jantheeven
20-01-2009, 19:41
700mmx140mmx65mm : This is the size of mine being done :D
I think I'll also go for that size... any bigger is useless when you don't want to hack up your standard bumper imo. Plus I really don't want to cut the cross member in any way...
MR TURBO
20-01-2009, 19:47
I think I'll also go for that size... any bigger is useless when you don't want to hack up your standard bumper imo. Plus I really don't want to cut the cross member in any way...
Its apparently its some new narrow style and with luck my bumper will fit neatly i did want to go Grill mounted but my outlets come out of the sides rather than the back so it just makes it a long winded job :)
I think I'll also go for that size... any bigger is useless when you don't want to hack up your standard bumper imo. Plus I really don't want to cut the cross member in any way...
Go for it mate. If double capacity can cope with 25 psi+ there is no reason why this one, which is in way better position, couldn't.
MR TURBO
22-01-2009, 16:29
Hey guys anybody got an birds eye view of a FMIC fitted
MR TURBO
22-01-2009, 17:43
Hey guys anybody got an birds eye view of a FMIC fitted
PLEASE ANYBODY :cry::cry:
Sorry I don't have but can tell you that IC is in line with slam panel in mm. Hope this help.
MR TURBO
22-01-2009, 20:50
Sorry I don't have but can tell you that IC is in line with slam panel in mm. Hope this help.
The garage its in the guy cant work out how to route the pipe from the carb top down :confused:
MR TURBO
22-01-2009, 22:29
Or any pics of the piping and how it routes from the carb top over alternator/water pump etc....
gttjames
22-01-2009, 23:36
heres how i did mine.
2x90 degs for round subframe
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/fmic2013.jpg
to a straight bit of pipe, to a 90deg over alternator
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/fmic2014.jpg
then to carb top
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/fmic2015.jpg
MR TURBO
22-01-2009, 23:50
James you are a life saver :worship::D
ebay.co.uk/FRONT-MOUNT-UNIVERSAL-INTERCOOLER-PUNTO-STARLET-TURBO item 220349499994 (http://ebay.co.uk/FRONT-MOUNT-UNIVERSAL-INTERCOOLER-PUNTO-STARLET-TURBO item220349499994)
£59 + £13 postage. :)
Brand New in the box
Aluminium Bar and Plate Intercooler
Core size: 540mm x 140mm x 65mm
End to end 690mm/27"
2.5"(64mm) Inlet and Outlet
Max Horsepower Capacity
What do you think to that?
Length??
MR TURBO
23-01-2009, 00:04
ebay.co.uk/FRONT-MOUNT-UNIVERSAL-INTERCOOLER-PUNTO-STARLET-TURBO item 220349499994 (http://ebay.co.uk/FRONT-MOUNT-UNIVERSAL-INTERCOOLER-PUNTO-STARLET-TURBO item220349499994)
£59 + £13 postage. :)
Brand New in the box
Aluminium Bar and Plate Intercooler
Core size: 540mm x 140mm x 65mm
End to end 690mm/27"
2.5"(64mm) Inlet and Outlet
Max Horsepower Capacity
What do you think to that?
Length??
Link is dead :scratch:
MR TURBO
23-01-2009, 00:07
This is the one Tarmac is talking it is very similar to mine if not same only dimensions i think but yes it should be cool sir : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220349499994&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fws%2Fsear ch%2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D2203494 99994%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26dfsp%3D1%26from%3DR7%26nojsp r%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fsop%3D1%2526fsoo%253D1%26fcl%3 D3%26frpp%3D50%26fvi%3D1
This is the one Tarmac is talking it is very similar to mine if not same only dimensions i think but yes it should be cool sir : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220349499994&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fws%2Fsear ch%2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D2203494 99994%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26dfsp%3D1%26from%3DR7%26nojsp r%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fsop%3D1%2526fsoo%253D1%26fcl%3 D3%26frpp%3D50%26fvi%3D1
Yea thats it. See on Jure's pictures in first post. Can u it be mounted so the outlets are at the top (closer to the cross member) to give more room for fog lights??
MR TURBO
23-01-2009, 00:18
I'd of thought either way just depends on your pipe run :agree:
Yea thats it. See on Jure's pictures in first post. Can u it be mounted so the outlets are at the top (closer to the cross member) to give more room for fog lights??
You could but then IC would stick little more to the front since subframe would touch IC inlet/outlet (see pic1 post1). I didn't try but you could have problem IC hitting the fins on the front bumper if you mount it with inlet/outlet up.
WHAT DO YOU NEED TO FIT 550x140x65 INTERCOOLER
Of course, you need universal front mounted intercooler that has dimensions:
-550mm width
-140mm height
-65mm thick
Overall length (from inlet to outlet) is 700mm. Inlet and outlet diameter is 60mm.
I will start in direction TURBO - IC - CARB.
Turbo outlet...
1. 90 deg. 50mm hose
2. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
3. 90 deg. 50mm hose
4. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
5. 90 deg. 50mm hose
6. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
7. 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm hose
...we reached IC inlet...IC...IC outlet...
8. 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm hose
9. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
10. 90 deg. 50mm hose
11. straight aluminium pipe (20-25cm)
12. 90 deg. 50mm hose
13. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm) or aluminium "T" piece for fitting dump valve
14. straight 50mm hose
...and we are on our final destination - carb! Happy boosting :D
To summarize and give approx prices:
1x universal intercooler = 70 pounds
5x 90 deg. 50mm silicon hose (5x12.00) = 60 pounds
5x straight aluminium pipe - short (5x6.00) = 30 pounds
2x 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm silicon hose (2x20.00) = 40 pounds
1x straight 50mm silicone hose (1x4.00) = 4 pounds
1x straight aluminium pipe - long (1x8.00) = 8 pounds
16x hose clips/clamps 45mm to 65mm (16x1.50) = 24 pounds
IN TOTAL: 236 pounds without delivery. These days most of the tuning houses or eBay sellers have each one of the items listed, so shipping won't be more than 20-25 pounds. You can lower final price by buying 1m of aluminium pipe and cutting it yourself but then you will not have small "dents" on the ends of pipes which can cause hose slipping.
Hope it helped ;)
I couldn't get a 90 deg elbow in front of the alternator ( angle too sharp) so used 2 45deg elbows. I had to cut them off (just after the bend on one side) and join the cut bits together with a bit of alloy tube. It still gives you a 90deg bend but fits a lot better.
awesome last post jure i will be using that for when i actually have some money. work is pretty dead at the mo.:cry:
MR TURBO
23-01-2009, 15:04
I recieved the call i'd been waiting for this morning that my little bad boy was ready for pick up WOO bloody WHOO......I was beginning to think it was actually rocket science fitting one of these.......But then again thats why I never take my car to garages no more lucky the guy in the garage is a friend of mine and it'll only be drink money handed over as i already had my own piping just had to adapt the ends i hope...I can't wait to start my own garage :D:D But hey happy days and thank you all for your help and advice.....I'll hopefully get some pics up
WHAT DO YOU NEED TO FIT 550x140x65 INTERCOOLER
Of course, you need universal front mounted intercooler that has dimensions:
-550mm width
-140mm height
-65mm thick
Overall length (from inlet to outlet) is 700mm. Inlet and outlet diameter is 60mm.
I will start in direction TURBO - IC - CARB.
Turbo outlet...
1. 90 deg. 50mm hose
2. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
3. 90 deg. 50mm hose
4. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
5. 90 deg. 50mm hose
6. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
7. 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm hose
...we reached IC inlet...IC...IC outlet...
8. 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm hose
9. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm)
10. 90 deg. 50mm hose
11. straight aluminium pipe (20-25cm)
12. 90 deg. 50mm hose
13. straight aluminium pipe (8-10cm) or aluminium "T" piece for fitting dump valve
14. straight 50mm hose
...and we are on our final destination - carb! Happy boosting :D
To summarize and give approx prices:
1x universal intercooler = 70 pounds
5x 90 deg. 50mm silicon hose (5x12.00) = 60 pounds
5x straight aluminium pipe - short (5x6.00) = 30 pounds
2x 90 deg. 60mm to 50mm silicon hose (2x20.00) = 40 pounds
1x straight 50mm silicone hose (1x4.00) = 4 pounds
1x straight aluminium pipe - long (1x8.00) = 8 pounds
16x hose clips/clamps 45mm to 65mm (16x1.50) = 24 pounds
IN TOTAL: 236 pounds without delivery. These days most of the tuning houses or eBay sellers have each one of the items listed, so shipping won't be more than 20-25 pounds. You can lower final price by buying 1m of aluminium pipe and cutting it yourself but then you will not have small "dents" on the ends of pipes which can cause hose slipping.
Hope it helped ;)
All the above listed i have found on ebay:
Mr Silicone
5 x 90 deg silicone 51mm£11.06 (2.95) postage {blue/black/red}
2 x 63 - 51mm reducers £13.76 (2.45)
1 x 51mm silicon length 1m £18.56 (2.45)
Autoperformanceonline
5 x 51mm Alum pipe 100mm length £6.05 (1.95)
1 x 51mm Alum pipe 300mm Length £9.99 (2.45)
2 x 10(PK) 50 - 70mm clips £4.45 (1.95)
2fast2cool2
Intercooler
540mm x 140mm x 65mm £59.00 (12.95)
Grand Total £254.47.
Thats without multiple postage. So could be cheaper. All uk suppliers. :agree:
Bring on the front mount!! :D
MR TURBO
24-01-2009, 18:27
Just picked up my 5 the FMIC looks good and fits snugly behind my bumper no cutting......Gave it a little run back from the garage and it feels nice and sounds better than before :burnrubber::D
finaly finished my front mount 2day!!! can still fit my standard front grill also.... bonus :agree:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00576.jpg
Markey Mark (BD)
24-01-2009, 19:12
finaly finished my front mount 2day!!! can still fit my standard front grill also.... bonus :agree:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00576.jpg
Thats quite a good way of using the original boost hose off the carb, never thought of that :agree:
Thats quite a good way of using the original boost hose off the carb, never thought of that :agree:
yeah man it works mint..... kept the cost down abit anyways. :agree: would of only sat in the garage.
MR TURBO
24-01-2009, 19:16
Thats quite a good way of using the original boost hose off the carb, never thought of that :agree:
I was thinking the same nice job :agree::smokin:
Matt Cole
24-01-2009, 20:48
what thickness is that cooler markey??
what thickness is that cooler markey??
matt r you talkin about my cooler that markey mark has commented on? or his that aint pictured there!?
if its mine i think this is the 1 =
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Performance-Upgrade-FMIC-450-Series-180mm-High_W0QQitemZ220341115643QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220341115643&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
like u wouldnt even know it was there... :agree:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00580.jpg
what thickness is that cooler markey??
AFAIK all these universal IC are 65mm.
jantheeven
29-01-2009, 09:19
Fantastic info again, my fellow European ;) :agree:
Its not that fantastic but its useful :wasntme:
;)
Markey Mark (BD)
29-01-2009, 16:57
matt r you talkin about my cooler that markey mark has commented on? or his that aint pictured there!?
if its mine i think this is the 1 =
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Performance-Upgrade-FMIC-450-Series-180mm-High_W0QQitemZ220341115643QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220341115643&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
If its my cooler you want to know mate its 3" thick, got it off ebay 2yrs ago.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=165&pictureid=1240
Found pic on eBay France that nicely shows what you should buy to fit fancy new FMIC on your five :cool:
is that kit for sale on there then? how much for if so? cheers
Chris Hebden
09-02-2009, 15:02
like u wouldnt even know it was there... :agree:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00580.jpg
Any pics of how its secured buddy?
is that kit for sale on there then? how much for if so? cheers
Yes mate but it is way too much. 560 € if I recall correctly.
a bit expensive jesus lol
Any pics of how its secured buddy?
heres 1 picture that kinda shows the bottom... i bent the 2 bottoms brackets in2 a u shape and bobs your uncle ;) if u want some detailed pictures of the top and bottom i can take some the wknd!?
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00605.jpg
Chris Hebden
09-02-2009, 18:52
Thats brill mate, if you could get some pics of the top mounting point that would be great. Unfortunately mine'll be mounted the other way round i think, with the outlets at the top!
i tried that2 start but had about a flys dick worth of space 2 play with...:laugh: i`ll try get some pics up4 u asap chap.
Looks like a tidy job Blick, fair play. Has anybody measured how good these coolers are with an act gauge?
blick, can you take a pic of how your pipes are routed behind the drivers headlamp.?
Chris Hebden
10-02-2009, 08:54
i tried that2 start but had about a flys dick worth of space 2 play with...:laugh: i`ll try get some pics up4 u asap chap.
Appreciated buddy!
Thats brill mate, if you could get some pics of the top mounting point that would be great. Unfortunately mine'll be mounted the other way round i think, with the outlets at the top!
there u go chris....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00599.jpg
blick, can you take a pic of how your pipes are routed behind the drivers headlamp.?
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00574.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00575.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00575-1.jpg
Chris Hebden
10-02-2009, 20:15
there u go chris....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00599.jpg
Blick your a gem! Just to confirm the two bars are coming off the slam panel at an angle and connecting on the one mount at the top?
Blick your a gem! Just to confirm the two bars are coming off the slam panel at an angle and connecting on the one mount at the top?
yes mate!!! tight as a ducks arse....:agree: :laugh: best of luck with your front mount. ;)
do you think you could use the samco hose from the old intercooler circuit, the same way you have the intercooler mounted down the bottom of the bumper blick? as i really like the look of it looks kinda factory lol, smart :agree:
do you think you could use the samco hose from the old intercooler circuit, the same way you have the intercooler mounted down the bottom of the bumper blick? as i really like the look of it looks kinda factory lol, smart :agree:
dont see y not mate.... where mine goes under the headlight and across yours could just go down, just abit more pipework i supose. :agree:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00574.jpg
nice one blick:agree: where as youve used the 90deg pipe bending to the right ill be using it to point down as i have big front mount not a grill mount. cheers for that anyway,i now now which way im going to route it all:)
Rob@Backyardracing
11-02-2009, 19:06
Right ok, has anyone got any performance figs for these, as im about to fit all my running gear to my ph1 which means off with the cross member, Yes yes i here some of you moan but im building the car for ME too enjoy and not think about the the next owner etc (prob never sell on anyway) and ill brace it up as you do. The only problem ive got is that ill have to do away with spot lights and some bumper mods which at first i didnt want to do with it being a ph1 but as its cracked anyway im thinking sod it... If these coolers tho work well at say 20-25psi with good temps id consider fitting one? and if its small enough for me to keep my nice orange fogs....
Right ok, has anyone got any performance figs for these, as im about to fit all my running gear to my ph1 which means off with the cross member, Yes yes i here some of you moan but im building the car for ME too enjoy and not think about the the next owner etc (prob never sell on anyway) and ill brace it up as you do. The only problem ive got is that ill have to do away with spot lights and some bumper mods which at first i didnt want to do with it being a ph1 but as its cracked anyway im thinking sod it... If these coolers tho work well at say 20-25psi with good temps id consider fitting one? and if its small enough for me to keep my nice orange fogs....
As Rob has said, is there any feedback on running temps? As i'm also considering a similar ic.
Nope. Not yet. But someone with standalone could do that fast and accurate.
Ok thanks Jure, I would hope they are more efficient than the standard intercooler!
They sure are. I can tell that just by looking at water temp gauge. You must know that they must be better due to larger capacity and better position.
jantheeven
05-04-2009, 16:33
Yesterday and today, I also installed my fmic... however... :(... I have a non-standard alternator (a bit bigger than the standard item), so I really couldn't fit the 90 deg elbow over and behind it. But... I found another solution fortunately. So, if anybody else has the same problem: here's the solution :)
Fit a straight silicone joiner or hump hose (I prefer the latter due to its flexibility) to the carb inlet elbow, after that your alloy dump valve T-piece (or just a 10cm alloy hose joiner) and finally a 90 deg elbow which goes straight down, to the right of the alternator and oil filter. Then you'll need another 90 deg elbow that goes around the oil filter, so that the bottom (horizontal) leg runs between the oil filter and engine mount. Then 2 more 90 deg elbows and you're back to the FMIC outlet. Mind that this option is slighty more expensive as you'll need one more alloy joiner and one more 90 deg elbow. Pictures will follow when everything's ready... :D
MR TURBO
05-04-2009, 16:44
Yesterday and today, I also installed my fmic... however... :(... I have a non-standard alternator (a bit bigger than the standard item), so I really couldn't fit the 90 deg elbow over and behind it. But... I found another solution fortunately. So, if anybody else has the same problem: here's the solution :)
Fit a straight silicone joiner or hump hose (I prefer the latter due to its flexibility) to the carb inlet elbow, after that your alloy dump valve T-piece (or just a 10cm alloy hose joiner) and finally a 90 deg elbow which goes straight down, to the right of the alternator and oil filter. Then you'll need another 90 deg elbow that goes around the oil filter, so that the bottom (horizontal) leg runs between the oil filter and engine mount. Then 2 more 90 deg elbows and you're back to the FMIC outlet. Mind that this option is slighty more expensive as you'll need one more alloy joiner and one more 90 deg elbow. Pictures will follow when everything's ready... :D
You finally got round to it then :D get some pics up ;)
Chris Hebden
05-04-2009, 16:53
Got my grill mount fitted the other week, with thanks to Mike (Ph1 16v Turbo) for the hose ideas, Think Automotive for the hoses and my Grandad! Charge temps are around 11-16 on cruising depending on ambient temperature and at 18psi on a good run it rises to 36-38degrees, and falls within seconds back down normal temp. My collant temp has risen a bit since fitting it, it has been hotter here the past couple of weeks but i still think its risen a little since fitting it and also the engine bay is considerably hotter. I dont have a thermometer to prove this but its been enough to notice it!
Got my grill mount fitted the other week, with thanks to Mike (Ph1 16v Turbo) for the hose ideas, Think Automotive for the hoses and my Grandad! Charge temps are around 11-16 on cruising depending on ambient temperature and at 18psi on a good run it rises to 36-38degrees, and falls within seconds back down normal temp. My collant temp has risen a bit since fitting it, it has been hotter here the past couple of weeks but i still think its risen a little since fitting it and also the engine bay is considerably hotter. I dont have a thermometer to prove this but its been enough to notice it!
went with the grill mount in the end then chris :agree:
ive changed mine yet again :laugh::laugh: after a few hundred miles the bonnet started to wear in2 the hose a little :cry: had my carb elbow re-welded in the end. ;)
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00639-1.jpg
i used a cossie 4x4 fmic on my old 5 but heres a pic of the pipe run
It kept breaking the ignition leads, I need to find a source or 90 degree leads next time, need to get myself another fmic, the pipes are right on the front member with the cossie one, so interested in more pics of the grill mounted options, im tempted to move the oil filler neck on the rockercover to the right side for abit more room
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/aliaxgt/PICT1230.jpg
i used a cossie 4x4 fmic on my old 5 but heres a pic of the pipe run
It kept breaking the ignition leads, I need to find a source or 90 degree leads next time, need to get myself another fmic, the pipes are right on the front member with the cossie one, so interested in more pics of the grill mounted options, im tempted to move the oil filler neck on the rockercover to the right side for abit more room
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/aliaxgt/PICT1230.jpg
if you get yourself an alloy elbow you could get it re welded like mine mate.... clears everythin now. :agree:
i just bought one, but its a bbtuning smooth one, i might buy one of those unstable cable ones and get that rewelded, i was running what i call 'Otter mod' carb top, took off the plastic elbow, filled two grooves round the carb, and fitted a silicone 90 degree hose onto it
i just bought one, but its a bbtuning smooth one, i might buy one of those unstable cable ones and get that rewelded, i was running what i call 'Otter mod' carb top, took off the plastic elbow, filled two grooves round the carb, and fitted a silicone 90 degree hose onto it
i was speaking 2 unstable cable the other wk about re-welding the 1s he has, imagine he could get it done!!! i just needed it done asap so cut it myself and got a tig welder to weld it up. only cost me a tenner :agree:
how much metal did you cut out to get the pipework in blick?
how much metal did you cut out to get the pipework in blick?
mainly what you see here mate.... + a tiny bit on the other side.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/blick_001/DSC00574.jpg
Chris Hebden
05-04-2009, 19:11
went with the grill mount in the end then chris :agree:
ive changed mine yet again :laugh::laugh: after a few hundred miles the bonnet started to wear in2 the hose a little :cry: had my carb elbow re-welded in the end. ;)
Yea i did mate, i had my carb top re welded also, but they lifted the angle of the dangle ever so slightly so it now rubs on the bonnet also. SOO gotta go see Mr Welder man and see what he can do! Fingers crossed he can weld it lower a little
Yea i did mate, i had my carb top re welded also, but they lifted the angle of the dangle ever so slightly so it now rubs on the bonnet also. SOO gotta go see Mr Welder man and see what he can do! Fingers crossed he can weld it lower a little
ahh ya jokin mate!!! yeah sure he`ll be able2 sort it out...:agree:
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