Moggy
11-01-2014, 21:48
ok, these are my thoughts..... :sad2: I'll say them now, if the 'mods' put them into this post we are waiting to start so be it, if not... who knows
I'm in a different position to most on here having been banned (one of the first :smokin:) because I asked too many questions.....
I feel at the time, they where questions that needed answering, they have finally been answered (when I was banned), and the club I feel opened up a little and finally showed where and when things where going /being done
The club has changed for the better having this chairperson and committee has meant more people doing more things and actually making the club a better place, we.ll it was
BUT have certain people been in their role too long and think they are irreplaceable....
I won't drag up the past but having been a 'name' of the past perhaps not the present, newer members won't know me, but lets say if you cut me down the middle I really do bleed diamonds!!!!! the renault type!
Miller, mate in the past you've done an amazing job, but, and I totally understand that your house/family have come first (its the reason i'm not here as much), but really you should of stood to one side when you didn't have the time to been a 'seen' person. The chairperson is someone who must be seen, and must post. even if its just a 'well done' to a new member on a resto thread. Without the front of the xmas donkey, the backside doesn't know where to follow!!!!!
Ian S, mate you've been here as long as me if not 1 or 2 months longer :cooter: you've been dropped in the crap by the last few 'top people', and have left to pick up the pieces time after time, each time you've done a cracking job. I know you've not been 100%, but put yourself first! The club will continue without you, people will come forward to do your roles. its something i've learnt from the sailing stuff I'm involved in, while someone is in a post, no-one will stand up to replace them, when they walk away, hands go up!!! put #1 first mate!
The committee :- you have a privileged position, you have the final say! you as a team decide what we should spend our money on, where/who we should go to for internet space stuff, what the club should support etc etc do it wisely, do it fair, but most of all remember 1 thing, its about the marque, not the car and not the person! if we keep thinking gtturbo and joe bloggs, we will never grow. Think Renault, think Turbo!
To the '3 amigos' :laugh: ; you might not think you've done something wrong, who does. but.... i'm sure you have alienated people, perhaps people who now have 'power' etc, lets face it, we're all moaning old gits. But, if you've made your mind up to do something... fair play, just go and do it. don't moan if something else is taking place or already exists, get on with it. Word of... well its not really advice... I was thinking about coming to Belgium, I asked where you guys where staying.... I'm still waiting for a reply. Me, I'm not bothered I'll stay at home and chase sheep, but to others, that is where they see the 'cliquey' nature. when you organize something do it openly, that goes for events or new forums, stop the secret squirrel stuff! it doesn't help!
Scoff; mate without you, this website might never have returned from the dead.... big thanks for keeping all us moaning gits together in one place! you're 1 in a million and taken for granted! :agree:
Right, what i think needs doing :-
stop all this bloody moaning,
If 'the few' think they can help/do a better job, give them a role, NOW! If they want to help/make changes.... lets hear them, lets keep the ball rolling, let not drop it now... we need to build, we need to grow... we've missed the 'game' by not pushing the 'general' renault turbo aspect for years, we've always waved and said hello to new members with obscure new cars when they join, but how many have we kept???, they join, realize we're a glorified gtturbo club and they leave. we're about to miss out on all the new 'renault turbo's if we're not careful.... lets pick this ball up and run with it....
website; right its old, outdated software. Right WTF does that mean!?!?!? can we fix it cheaply? can someone here do it on a sat night with a beer or does it mean we need to pay? do we need a new space place? server is it?? how much is that gonna cost, can we afford it? if so.... lets f'in do it.
The Club... what do we really offer people when they join? have we looked at the 'gifts' others give away? what about renewal time? wow, a card.... for £15. I'm honored! we know there is money there lets give a little back.
Voting... well from what I can see, we've not had an AGM for a year or 2??? (i'll stand corrected if needs be) but that's where voting should take place. People don't know what roles are available if you don't advertise them! a quick 'heads up', whats expected etc.
perhaps we should put a 'time scale' on roles, i.e. you can only be chairperson for 2 years, etc etc. That way you don't get stale in a role? well its an idea!
anyway
that's the way I see it...... in fact its the way I've always seen it! so.... :scratch: lets hope it means something to someone
Moggy
Megane 225 owners (who thinks meganesport and rsmegane are boring and full of polish)
ex owner of... x2 gtturbo, x2 21 turbo, x2 fuego turbo, x2 gordini turbo, x2 avantime turbo, a clio v6 and x2 R5 turbo 2..... so yes! its in my bloody blood!!!!!:coffee:
I'm in a different position to most on here having been banned (one of the first :smokin:) because I asked too many questions.....
I feel at the time, they where questions that needed answering, they have finally been answered (when I was banned), and the club I feel opened up a little and finally showed where and when things where going /being done
The club has changed for the better having this chairperson and committee has meant more people doing more things and actually making the club a better place, we.ll it was
BUT have certain people been in their role too long and think they are irreplaceable....
I won't drag up the past but having been a 'name' of the past perhaps not the present, newer members won't know me, but lets say if you cut me down the middle I really do bleed diamonds!!!!! the renault type!
Miller, mate in the past you've done an amazing job, but, and I totally understand that your house/family have come first (its the reason i'm not here as much), but really you should of stood to one side when you didn't have the time to been a 'seen' person. The chairperson is someone who must be seen, and must post. even if its just a 'well done' to a new member on a resto thread. Without the front of the xmas donkey, the backside doesn't know where to follow!!!!!
Ian S, mate you've been here as long as me if not 1 or 2 months longer :cooter: you've been dropped in the crap by the last few 'top people', and have left to pick up the pieces time after time, each time you've done a cracking job. I know you've not been 100%, but put yourself first! The club will continue without you, people will come forward to do your roles. its something i've learnt from the sailing stuff I'm involved in, while someone is in a post, no-one will stand up to replace them, when they walk away, hands go up!!! put #1 first mate!
The committee :- you have a privileged position, you have the final say! you as a team decide what we should spend our money on, where/who we should go to for internet space stuff, what the club should support etc etc do it wisely, do it fair, but most of all remember 1 thing, its about the marque, not the car and not the person! if we keep thinking gtturbo and joe bloggs, we will never grow. Think Renault, think Turbo!
To the '3 amigos' :laugh: ; you might not think you've done something wrong, who does. but.... i'm sure you have alienated people, perhaps people who now have 'power' etc, lets face it, we're all moaning old gits. But, if you've made your mind up to do something... fair play, just go and do it. don't moan if something else is taking place or already exists, get on with it. Word of... well its not really advice... I was thinking about coming to Belgium, I asked where you guys where staying.... I'm still waiting for a reply. Me, I'm not bothered I'll stay at home and chase sheep, but to others, that is where they see the 'cliquey' nature. when you organize something do it openly, that goes for events or new forums, stop the secret squirrel stuff! it doesn't help!
Scoff; mate without you, this website might never have returned from the dead.... big thanks for keeping all us moaning gits together in one place! you're 1 in a million and taken for granted! :agree:
Right, what i think needs doing :-
stop all this bloody moaning,
If 'the few' think they can help/do a better job, give them a role, NOW! If they want to help/make changes.... lets hear them, lets keep the ball rolling, let not drop it now... we need to build, we need to grow... we've missed the 'game' by not pushing the 'general' renault turbo aspect for years, we've always waved and said hello to new members with obscure new cars when they join, but how many have we kept???, they join, realize we're a glorified gtturbo club and they leave. we're about to miss out on all the new 'renault turbo's if we're not careful.... lets pick this ball up and run with it....
website; right its old, outdated software. Right WTF does that mean!?!?!? can we fix it cheaply? can someone here do it on a sat night with a beer or does it mean we need to pay? do we need a new space place? server is it?? how much is that gonna cost, can we afford it? if so.... lets f'in do it.
The Club... what do we really offer people when they join? have we looked at the 'gifts' others give away? what about renewal time? wow, a card.... for £15. I'm honored! we know there is money there lets give a little back.
Voting... well from what I can see, we've not had an AGM for a year or 2??? (i'll stand corrected if needs be) but that's where voting should take place. People don't know what roles are available if you don't advertise them! a quick 'heads up', whats expected etc.
perhaps we should put a 'time scale' on roles, i.e. you can only be chairperson for 2 years, etc etc. That way you don't get stale in a role? well its an idea!
anyway
that's the way I see it...... in fact its the way I've always seen it! so.... :scratch: lets hope it means something to someone
Moggy
Megane 225 owners (who thinks meganesport and rsmegane are boring and full of polish)
ex owner of... x2 gtturbo, x2 21 turbo, x2 fuego turbo, x2 gordini turbo, x2 avantime turbo, a clio v6 and x2 R5 turbo 2..... so yes! its in my bloody blood!!!!!:coffee: