the le car 2 turbo

[Adey aka Ewok]

well not really a project as its mot'd taxed and insured :D meaning ive been able to drive it. a few little things to sort out, mainly a bulb, some indicator lenses and the brakes but all good fun. Picked her up thursday, insured and taxed on the friday and then off to french car show sat followed by the cotswold classic car show on sunday morning. Alot of people know the car but shes now mine :cooter:

a few pics from over the weekend

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsdad0fea7.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsb295ffa3.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsbebe345e.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/999073_10151728467719526_1580957122_n_zpsf4a90e7b. jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/gd4_zps6a2bb9e2.jpg

i might raise the rear 1 notch as its a touch too low. car drives well though she gets a wobble on, hopefully it just needs the wheels balancing :agree:

[TopCat]

Awesome! :agree:

[Pigsnake]

I love this car.:agree:

[Nad-5GTT]

I love your car, :cool:

[Sparkie]

tip with the indicator lenses, you will need the whole assembly as most that are for sale have screws in a different place to the ones that are on that car.....
just check out the screw placement.......

[Adey aka Ewok]

tip with the indicator lenses, you will need the whole assembly as most that are for sale have screws in a different place to the ones that are on that car.....
just check out the screw placement.......

will do buddy something to look into :agree:

[Ricardo]

Good to see you yesterday mate, and also the chance to see this in the flesh. Amazing car :agree: :cool:

[Slammed 66]

Gets the "slammed 66 seal of approval" :agree:

[philr5t]

Adrian I can't believe we have been on the boards for ages and I only have just realised who you are now I met you yesterday it was a great day and your car looked sweet sitting there cheers for lending me your boot for the day with my wheel ;) it must have helped as I won the iconic section cheers mate ;)

[jesus in the seat of a 5]

shes a beut buddy, good to see you in one again... don't leave it so long next time..:laugh:, keep up sparkies good work with her bud, catch up sooooon...:)

[Adey aka Ewok]

cheers all, ill be tapping you up for some bits soon jesus.

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

Looks great Adey, I may have some bits from the old gordin, will check the Garage and let you know :)

[Adey aka Ewok]

that would be great, drop me a pm :agree:

[Junglist]

Wanna sell it already? Pm me. :)
If it had been up 2 weeks later we would be fighting for that. :laugh:
Looked very nice at the weekend :agree:

[Mr Raider]

Great car mate, - I was watching this on ebay and dreaming! :)

[Spooky]

You swapped the wheels about yet? :cooter:

"We're not gunna make it!!!...oh, that wasnt so bad!" :laugh::agree:

[Spooky]

Adrian I can't believe we have been on the boards for ages and I only have just realised who you are now I met you yesterday it was a great day and your car looked sweet sitting there cheers for lending me your boot for the day with my wheel ;) it must have helped as I won the iconic section cheers mate ;)

:agree::agree::agree:

Was the spare wheel polished and coated in some sort of jizzy wax? Got it all on my hands :wasntme:

[philr5t]

:agree::agree::agree:

Was the spare wheel polished and coated in some sort of jizzy wax? Got it all on my hands :wasntme:

:laugh: its that spray on stuff to make the tyres shine never used it before and won't again as its now all over my harnesses

[Adey aka Ewok]

pressed metal number plates fitted this morning and replaced the blown side light bulb. also took it for tracking and wheel balancing, wheels look quite straight though the tires are a little out of shape. might be from long periods of standing still.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps0cf3dae2.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsf3d01c65.jpg

[djinuk]

I love this car so much:cool:

[JRP]

I love this car so much:cool:

Agree'd pure sex on skinny wheels

[Adey aka Ewok]

Not too much happening with this at the mo. Tidied up the bay a little, painted some rusty brackets and tried to get her to idle smooth. Undecided what to do with her next, my old one i converted to run a gtt carb and it gave a great increase in power. Id like to do the same or efi this time but im collecting parts so i can always return her to standard if i needed too. After doing the job before it should be an easy conversion if i went either way but i would try to keep it more oem. properly mounted fuel pump under the car with a modified pick up for the tank. The last one ran a swirl pot setup and 2 pumps mounted in the car, it was a little noisy and probably dangerous.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpscbf6c8be.jpg

will try and find a new brake fluid res and header tank to clean it up a little more in there. Another little thing just to make her a little nicer to drive was having the sun roof tinted. In the sun it would beam through and make me squint alot. Its a little touch nothing major just makes it a little nicer in there, god im getting old

[Brigsy]

Cool as feck:agree: efi gets my vote

[Slammed 66]

Excuse my ignorance but is the engine that far removed from that of the Renault 5 Turbo and Turbo 2? Clearly fuel injection and turbos differ but internally?

[Adey aka Ewok]

not that different, the turbo had mechanical fuel injection and different turbo, also intercooled and i think made 160-165bhp stock. This has a draw through carb no intercooling and made 110bhp from factory, this has a slight boost increase and at last dyno put down 120bhp. my last one made 150bhp on a gtt carb at about 10psi. Dont think i will look at changing the turbo size as the lag kinda makes it what it is and gives it character. I think its higher compression than the turbo 2 and gtt so full efi should give it some oomph

[r5turbo2]

Has the Renault 8 been sold

[Adey aka Ewok]

its undercover on the drive :agree:

[Lewis]

Off the top of my head I think the compression ratio is 8.6:1 for the Gordini turbo.

What sort of power/torque can you run before the clutch slips? Am I right in thinking they run a smaller diameter clutch than the gtt?

I'm sure I've heard of gtt carb/intercooler conversions making close to 200bhp at 1 bar of boost, although perhaps that's with a different turbo also?

[Adey aka Ewok]

my last one was slipping at a bar this one will end up needing a paddle clutch though ive already got the part number for a helix. not sure if the higher compression ratio will limit power in the long run. yeah the gordini came with a 180mm clutch some had a 190 i think but ive not seen a 190mm flywheel.

[jesus in the seat of a 5]

I have a brand new header tank and some other bits... youll need to hug me though :D

[Adey aka Ewok]

really, feel free to reply to my pm's then and ill do more than hug you lol ;)

[jesus in the seat of a 5]

really, feel free to reply to my pm's then and ill do more than hug you lol ;)

cor`... that's what I call a deal... my lover` {west country}...:laugh:

[Mr Raider]

Pure sex on wheels mate, love to own a motor as cool as that! :) :agree:

[Goobie]

Love that dash! :smokin:

[Prab]

Really love this car dude, you were parked opposite me at FCS. Mine was the silver 25

Prab

[Adey aka Ewok]

recieved a few bits from sparkie today (top man) mainly some indicator lenses. alot fresher than the ones i had fitted so i gave them a clean and fitted them up

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsceebf374.jpg

has anyone hap plastic reflectors re chromed? mine are dulling a fair bit behind the newer lenses and could do with re doing if possible? Next on the to buy list are tinted yellow fogs or fog light covers? not sure what route to go down?

Also had a look at fitting my omp strut brace though it needs drilling to fit and im abit unsure if i should do it?

[Adey aka Ewok]

more pics done by a friend today, car was dirty but still looks good. Also been slowly working through some niggly issues, gear shift is now super slick and almost silent. greased up all the joints and adjusted the clutch cable. Will be removing the grill tomorrow to move the speedo cable so i can re align it a little better and i also found a split in the driverside bumper bracket, needs a small bead of weld and itll be fixed.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1098089_10151829563411420_534697520_n_zps05394fdb. jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1005370_10151829720091420_263721779_n_zps1cc2484e. jpg


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1175242_10151828787241420_449696470_n_zps7baf9fc5. jpg

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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/972173_10151828788186420_1437118462_n_zps89b14d88. jpg

[Trevhib]

Great pics.

I love how deep brown the window tints are on the higher spec 5's of this era (doesn't show up on all pics but definitely in the arty shots above) :)

I'd like to see what this looks like on some Gordini rims. Though I realise that's away from OE.

[Adey aka Ewok]

im on the hunt for a set actually :agree:

[BabybluGTT]

:cool: That is so f*cking cool! Has to be one of my, if not my favourite 5s on here :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

little update but not much to show yet. Flywheel is currently in a machine shop getting modified for a 44-1 trigger pattern, this will allow me to run an aftermarket ecu for mapable fuel injection and ignition. Should hopefully release a few ponies from her. Not looking for massive figures but hope to gain alot of mid range and make it a better drive. Its very old school with its delivery at the moment and doesnt get going till about 4k. An old manifold has also had it flanges cut off to donate them selves to the new inlet manifold. Design of that hasnt been finalized yet but its very tight where it needs to go so its going to be more design to fit than designed for big power. The rest of the bits, injetors and tb i hope to get from a clio 172, the loom i have is from my old sc 172 and was adapted to use stock clio 172 parts so if i can keep it with the same parts i dont have to do any re wiring of it. I will upload pics as i get things back from the shop and start to work on the manifold.


Also the you will be able to see the car in a magazine soon ;)

[Adey aka Ewok]

picked up the flywheel this morning, there were a few issues when trying to come up with a wheel that would work with an aftermarket ecu, the trigger pattern needed to be changed to a custom setup which required a custom writing of the ecu's software. this has been tackled by omex technologies and works on the test rig fine. next was to have the flywheel itself modified to have the trigger pattern on and thats when the fun started, it looks like it will work fine and although the stock casting/machining was slightly out this has been corrected. obviously i wont know for sure until its in and fitted but for now its a piece of the puzzle. next thing is to start building a manifold for it all.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsb6b84499.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps95c9d01a.jpg

[Adey aka Ewok]

i have being measuring up again today trying to see how i can squeeze and inlet manifold setup into the bay and im getting stuck. its tighter in here that it is in a gtt, theres a wiper motor in the way and the alternator over hangs the manifold slightly too. i dont want to mess with the shell or the original parts too much as id like to have the option to revert to stock if needed at a later date.

its hard to show what i mean but heres a pic. any ideas? i was looking to try and have 4 swept runners up into a barrel type plenum.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps9f0ef28d.jpg

stumped really. wondering if i could go down the tried and tested gtt carb conversion though with a modded inlet manifold so the bonnet closes and run it with mappable ignition. I have also heard that the lancia carb might bolt to the stock manifold so that could be an option also though i have no idea if i can even get hold of one. Has any one here used one on s gtt?

[Miller]

Do you have any pics of a standard inlet manifold or measurements of the port spacing?

[Adey aka Ewok]

do you mean off the head face or carb face? yeah got plenty of pics if not it can go outside and grab some, whys that bud?

[Miller]

Just to see if it could be adapted to efi, have you looked at other car manifolds to see if the staving is similar and you could swap the flange over?

[Adey aka Ewok]

It's the space restriction that's an issue, I'm going to remove some bits to see if I can under mount the injectors on the stock manifold. I've seen efi done on lhd versions but they have some more space due to not having a steering rack running through and they can modify the bulkhead as the pedals are on the other side.

[Adey aka Ewok]

still unsure if i can build a manifold in there but i had a spare manifold so cut it up and the flanges faced off so i can use them if needed

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps6402a2b0.jpg

i have been looking into some of the oem manifolds on other cars, there are a few that seem to have a very small plenums, i think i can get in and build one just, though injector placement is going to be a big issue. options are to mount them further back up the runners though ive been told that the closer to the valves the better?

[5 turbo]

4" scorpion would finish that off a treat :wasntme:


Genuinely though thats a little stunner, pure Old skool cool :agree::agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

im tempted to throw a sidey on for giggles, trying to get a devil (replica) sidey made for it at the moment.

as i was clearing through some old parts i remembered i was told ph1 gtt fogs are the same as the lecar ones, well the glass defo is.Id already been looking to buy some yellow fogs and it turns out i had some already lol :agree: quick clean and on they went

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps9b5a3133.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsb3b5e4b1.jpg

[Bigfoot]

Yellow fogs make the front end look great :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

popped and saw my mate paul today (paulya610) and he worked a little majic on my car so that i can have some music while driving, the car didnt have speakers or a stereo installed. I got hold of an old Blaupunkt Windsor that was modified to have an aux input so i can plug in my iphone. paul then mocked up some panels to hold some 10cm speakers then proceeded to run in all the wiring needed for them and the power wiring for the headunit itself. Great to be able to drive along with some tunes in there now :D

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps853008f9.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps77d255e4.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps297b2def.jpg

also managed to get some shots of the gtt and the lecar together in the workshop. Only phone pics though

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps929c84e0.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsf32b7cd4.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsdd6bb3f5.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zpsa65c0aaa.jpg

[Trevhib]

:)

[xenon]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1175242_10151828787241420_449696470_n_zps7baf9fc5. jpg

:niceone:

[gtmatt]

nice goin adey make sure you keep this one

[Adey aka Ewok]

thats the plan :agree:

so ive started on doing some preventative work, was getting a little bit of smoke when pulling up at lights after a hard drive. the rear of the turbo was so old that the clamps and bolts holding it to the core were rotting away and looked like they were leaking, also was getting a faint whine after a while of driving. I have a brand new turbo so thats now getting swapped on.

Efi side of things is taking a while, getting an inlet made up is turning into a bit of a pain due tot he shape it needs to be and also finding parts to make it out of seems to be difficult. ive been trying to find ali bends and such to mock it all up out of but to no avail. ive got hold of yet another inlet manifold so i will look again into modding the original inlet for injectors. Flywheel should be sent of in the next week or 2 for balencing.

[Adey aka Ewok]

still tying to find some gaskets for the manifold. i think ill just make some now.

omp brace is in position and ready to be bolted into place. it will require some hoses to be shortend slightly so they dont rub but hopefully it should tighten the car up a little

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps879f5339.jpg

ive also managed to get a set of allycat alloys on ebay. should be here soon, 13x6. something a little different and im unsure what colour to do them. they all need a refurb but look like these

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/gallery/7x13AlleyCats1.JPG

maybe a gold center will work against the silver body? unsure at the moment. All 4 hubs will need alterations so they are studded in the correct fitment but hopefully itll look good

[Dre5gtt]

Looking good mate :) remember having a good look at this car at FCS this year :cool:

[Slammed 66]

3 stud alleycats?

That was a rare find ady. Well done.

They'll look great with a light gold centre :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

no mate, im actually going to convert the hubs to fit the wheels. finding decent r5 3 stud fitment alloys will cost upwards of 1k. bit much for me. the hubs are studded already, so ill punch them out and redrill in the ford fitment the wheels are in:agree:

[Mattv6]

adey, when I had mine I popped to Wicks and in plumbing supplies they do a pack of small round rubber seals. These fit the manifold and can be used to replace the standard washers. Hope that helps pal. Car looks lovely.

[Coops]

beautiful car, absolutely love it and I think perhaps just gone on my wishlist!

[Adey aka Ewok]

This is an exhaust manifold gasket I need, well 2 of them. The manifold if in 3 pieces and it's the 2 intermediate ones I need

[r5turbo2]

Where did you get the front strut brace from

[Adey aka Ewok]

i think it was somewhere in france, got it months ago though. ill get the part number for you so you can find it. there are uk companys that can get it though

[Adey aka Ewok]

part number on the bag for the brace is MA/1532

so today i ordered up 2 of these
http://danstengineering.co.uk/image/cache/data/T48%20FLANGE%20AL-500x500.jpg

and added to these
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/null_zps6402a2b0.jpg

i may be able to cobble up and inlet manifold. the idea being i can either use the flange to bolt a plenum too or a set of jenvey itb's........;)

once they turn up ill pop down to my friends down at forge motorsport and see if they can weld me some pipe in between the flanges :D

[r5turbo2]

Cheers will see if I can get one may work on the t2

[Adey aka Ewok]

tbh i wouldn't bother, its a poor fit and you have to drill fixing points.

turbo is nearly back on, just waiting on a new actuator to turn up and ill give her a few drives if its dry out before i sorn her for the winter. if all goes well when she comes back out next year she will be running sweet and hopefully full efi :D

[ren5gord]

First post!

Hi,
Just been reading through your thread and I have converted my gordini turbo to run efi. When I first did it the injectors were about 15mm from the inlet face of the head and I had really bad fuelling problems on idle with fuel pooling in the ports.

I then machined the head and pressed sleeves in to hold the injectors so they were positioned right at the back of the inlet valve this solved all the idle running problems.

There is another thread on here with a guy using a gordini head on a gt turbo and he has machined about 1" of the inlet ports off than has mounted the injectors.

I used a clio 172 inlet manifold bolted to the head with a normal cable throttle body fitted and a charge cooler.

Good luck with the project.

[Adey aka Ewok]

Sounds good, do you have or can you take some pics of your inlet manifold setup please, would be good to see how you've gone about it as there's next to no space in there?

[Adey aka Ewok]

wooooo got the 5 finished for driving today, managed to take her fort a quick blast to blow the cobwebs off. what good fun. new turbo seems good, just need to dial the boost in now.

flanges have turned up too so will now see what i can o with regards to getting a manifold of some description made up :D

[ren5gord]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

I managed to dig out some photos from while back things have moved on a bit since then but you'll get the idea. Also a couple of photos from some sprints and brake / body mods over the years.

The 3rd picture shows the head being machined for sleeves to be pressed into take the injectors.

The car started off using a Lancia HF turbo twin choke carb onto the standard manifold.

It took alot of time to get the EFI sorted and a whole season of tuning / modifying and setting up to get it to run well, and its still really a work in progress there always seems to be something else to do.

[ren5gord]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

A few more.

[Adey aka Ewok]

thats some great work there, i see you have gone 4 stud as well? how did you go about that if you dont mind me asking?

[ren5gord]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

I machined out the hub carrier to take a super 5 wheel bearing then pressed the drive flange from a gt turbo into the hub. I then machined the splined center out to take the gordini splines.

It seemd to be the only way to be able to locate the wheel on the center.

I think the photo shown is from a earlier verison with the gordini drive flange just redrilled to 4 x 100 and then studs fixed in to a ring behind. But I could never get the wheels to centre properly which caused vibrations.

[Adey aka Ewok]

awesome, cheers for the info.

you should start a thread up on your car and how its come along :agree:

[Trevhib]

:agree::agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

so after spending months trying to get a manifold for my car and then starting to get the bits to make one, this turns up for sale in germany

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/2013-10-11131605_zps83922f81.jpg

after a few poorly translated emails its on its way to me for a decent price. This should fit straight on and now either allow me to mod it for injector bosses or fit jenvey itb's and a plenum. ill see how funds are looking in the next few weeks before i decide what to do. After that itll just be an ecu needed and a new clutch then the main fitting can be started :D

[dangerous dave]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

A few more.

that looks bad a55, nice work.. :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

this turned up from Germania today :D one more peice of the puzzle hopefully. Fingers crossed it clears the steering column as its for a LHD car

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/7FE8A71B-3226-40CD-B649-69382720702A_zpsy9vhkbus.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/CD2F678B-BA24-46E5-8910-3B2B6C97BA99_zpsuz8zjyu3.jpg

[Adey aka Ewok]

well before i put the car away in the garage for work to commence i decided it would be good to get a base line of power as she is. she runs a little more boost than standard and enlarged second main jet. She put down 129.8bhp and 131.2lbft running around 0.8bar afr was running at .83 ish lambda on full chat.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/BA75DF06-1794-43A9-9EA8-D7D98BECD318_zpssowhrjde.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/4387ABDF-AB20-4BE0-8539-45AAB0AAD78D_zpsbe3qewg4.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NV7olpb_eA

[Slammed 66]

That's a much throatier sound than a c1j. I assume that's due to the cross flow head?

Sounds great.

Is it a 5 speed in these adey?

[Adey aka Ewok]

yeah wee 5 speed box in there. its on a stock exhaust and stock inlet with airfilter and a draw through carb, i havent heard a stock 5 gtt for years so wouldn't know how different the sound was sorry

[Sparkie]

probably more to do with the twinchoke weber carb....

[Adey aka Ewok]

its never easy or plain sailing when trying to do something that's not normally done. Whipped of the inlet manifold this eve (what a c**nt of a job) to offer up the inlet manifold. I knew it might not fit due to the manifolds only being available for left hand drive cars and low and behold it doesn't lol. Im now going to have to look at modifying the bulk head above the pedals and move some of the wiring loom out of the way :mad: hopefully i have enough space available above the pedals to do it.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/6F160B83-C824-4D5A-9A21-D2150159F770_zpsyzvb22ll.jpg

this is the part of the bulk head that needs reshaping and theres some wiring that comes through it that needs moving also

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/FD827E61-166A-4E7A-87C4-E60465860F91_zpsfhadd8j9.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/848DC9C7-A4B9-471A-A214-BD696209CAA6_zpsvgjtor5m.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/3849A05D-0EF7-4548-80C1-F031EFE3DD4C_zpszlg1xioe.jpg

[Adey aka Ewok]

so today i had a spare 30min to tinker on the car. I decided to start removing some material to clear the manifold. Painful to do but want to get it ruffly right before removing the engine. Need to borrow a dremell with a slitting disk to get it all removed but it should get me somewhere close. Our continental friends have the luxury of being able to cut huge amounts out but i dont have that luxury :crap:, Once the engine is out i will weld it up nicely.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1AD34A96-3F3A-48D3-BE9E-6258DEB2EACD_zpsqqbcnmiu.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/14679F59-04DA-40D3-A466-9FBEA84B0539_zpssdfgrr33.jpg

Also in the post today is a nice cam from Mr Cooke. I have been told its wilder than the turbo 2 cam so it should make a nice addition to the efi.

[Dre5gtt]

Loving the work mate, car looks good on the rollers to :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

cheers buddy, hopefully it will all come together over the next couple of months.



this is as far as i can get without some cutting equipment.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/D8DCBF30-6FF1-4F03-AFAD-7AAE3CF5CBCB_zpswnxxdteb.jpg

it does look like the wiring loom will need to be relocated as well.... sigh yet more work lol

[gtmatt]

Soon be there adey nice work

[Adey aka Ewok]

and after a little more time they are in :D the metal work will all need a tidy up but now it wont stop me completing the mock up. The mrs has a few presents in the boot of the car so later on i might have some more updates

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/B82E48C3-A572-4C08-A6AA-32750E8D6885_zpsfmmohxwp.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/7C95F022-BAD6-4928-B33F-81E0996BF4A7_zpswxrdkz4y.jpg

[Nad-5GTT]

Good work :)

[Adey aka Ewok]

A little more.....

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/B2A0E603-7FB4-4589-B2E7-79A022CA406E_zpsfl8u9vkp.jpg

[Adey aka Ewok]

and now this, but another slight snag..........

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/34307178-FE83-42E7-8581-614C9A5828FD_zpspd9cquix.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/761FDE0A-13A7-4487-936B-93BBD0FB0D06_zpsh6uejchx.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/3289AA72-DB75-40DB-9F07-07F24B637BD7_zpsra152un7.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/44C7E53B-AC19-4017-AA86-B941F156529F_zpstuh73dcb.jpg

its a little too high to close the bonnet. i have 2 options now. have a plenum made or flip it so the inlet is underneath and modify the inner arch?

[Matt@CodeRedMotorsports]

Could be worse....

[r5turbo2]

Power bulge

[Adey aka Ewok]

not sure i want to upset the bonnet with a bulge

with the longer but smaller internally jenveys on

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/AEFA814F-5C15-40F0-894C-55A6A62DCB33_zpsobcpblyz.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/5C60C928-0A4C-40F0-9FE6-7A02858B5DF7_zpsaja9rwov.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/846257C1-CEBB-41C8-BE80-B8CF73A83D25_zps8fotexr4.jpg

making a plenum would stop me having to cut the inner arch and weld it up for clearance

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/182E1785-2DDC-4EF2-8F03-6F56DD07E1EA_zpsas0nqocs.jpg

i do like the thought of using the jenvey plenum too......... ill make a decision over night tonight before busting out the grinder and welder

[Andrew Cooke]

you might want to keep your eyes open for a T3 off an Escort RS Turbo. From memory you have a 40 trim compressor and a .24ar exhaust housing and the escort is a 45 trim with a .36 exhaust. (from memory, so almost certainly faulty information.) That'll either turn it into a laggy POS, or a boost monster :D

[Adey aka Ewok]

Already been looking lol, what sort of boost and flow do you think my turbo can flow?

[Andrew Cooke]

Already been looking lol, what sort of boost and flow do you think my turbo can flow?

assuming you have the 40 trim.
Boost won't be a problem, flow will, I think it'll be about there in the 1bar/180hp area. Just guessing though. IMO, if you want to make 200 you want the 45 trim, you should be able to swap the exhaust housings between the two to see what works best.

Normally you couldn't just swap those compressors with the draw through carb, your turbo should have fancy seals to allow that. Not going to be needed with he EFI.

btw, don't think I'd bother with the throttle bodies. Can you get an injector in a better position?

[Andrew Cooke]

http://www.witchhunter.com/spraypattern1.php

[Adey aka Ewok]

Injector position was half the reason for using itb's, there no space for injectors further down the manifold and getting it fabricated up without sending them the head was a pain. I'm not too bothered about that really as it's only economy that'll suffer so I'm told?

[Logg]

you might want to keep your eyes open for a T3 off an Escort RS Turbo. From memory you have a 40 trim compressor and a .24ar exhaust housing and the escort is a 45 trim with a .36 exhaust. (from memory, so almost certainly faulty information.) That'll either turn it into a laggy POS, or a boost monster :D

I use to run a Cossie 4x4 T3 in the escort .36 turbine housing on the c1j. Wasn't very laggy just a bit lazy would imagine it being better on your lump.

Boost threshold was about 3.3/3.5k once in third gear it went very well indeed. From what I read around 220/230 is the max out of the .36 with a bucket load of boost.

[Adey aka Ewok]

Are the t3 exhaust housings pretty interchangeable? I'll do an eBay scour shortly and see what I can find

[Logg]

I think the ford ones all use the same rear wheel trim. I first used a 2wd cosworth T3 in the .36 than later used the 4wd in the same housing.

[Adey aka Ewok]

cool stuff. so i assume the 4wd used a bigger front end?

Had a chat with bill at badger 5 (vag tuner) who looks after my daily, he makes up custom inlets for the vag fraternity, he said he cam make me up a plenum in the new year so i think ill go down that route rather thank hack more of the car about. itll probably be very basic but itll get the air into the cylinders im sure. Im reading contradicting info on the web regarding having trumpets inside a turbo inlet plenum. any one have any input?

The car will most likely be worked on slowly over winter now as i do smaller jobs like the wiring and fuel line plumbing. Aim is to have the car back out and on the road for national day so i have a while yet....

[Andrew Cooke]

I'm pretty sure the Turbo2 had a .36ar housing. T3 exhaust housing should all be interchangeable, they use the same wheel. The only thing you might be interested in is that series 1 RS turbo didn't have watercooling, so that might be one to look for I don't think you have water cooling?

When it comes to cossies I think they have .48 ar exhaust housings, 50 trim compressor on the 2 door, and 60 trim on the 4 door. I'd stick to the series 1 escort jobbie

[Adey aka Ewok]

nice one cheers. i didnt have water cooling for a turbo no but i did have it for thecarb so i could retro fit it if i needed too.

[Alastair]

no mate, im actually going to convert the hubs to fit the wheels. finding decent r5 3 stud fitment alloys will cost upwards of 1k. bit much for me. the hubs are studded already, so ill punch them out and redrill in the ford fitment the wheels are in:agree:

My neighbour has 4 brand new gordini turbo alloys and wants to sell them.! Ill post some pics up.

[Adey aka Ewok]

:agree:

[Duncan Grier]

Good stuff adey, should be epic when finished!

If you ever need any machining or stuff drawing up just let us know. In fact if you need any custom stuff making a very good friend is very very good. Good enough for noble to use him to make custom bits :coffee: metal working god and love making **** at his unit......allllllll the toys

Badger5 remember bill from when I had my old ibiza cupra thing and seems a good guy

DG

[Adey aka Ewok]

started removing bits for space and removing some brackets that used to support the carb.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/07D249F5-904A-4F25-B814-A9852E0F3FF9_zpsowijqzg6.jpg

still undecided what to do with the plenum, the jenvey turbo plenum looks like a nice design and is so say designed for proper distribution of air? does this really make a difference on a turbo motor?

also got a package from andrew cooke today

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/D28D989E-F20F-4AB6-A461-86ADF7BABFCD_zpsqa8ce0ov.jpg

some sort of camshaft type thing?

[Trevhib]

Whoa, nice, uprated dipstick. Only fitted from the factory in France. :agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

angle grinder came out......... more welding now needed :cry:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/1243F521-E755-4AFE-A358-EFC9B4BCD7CD_zpspuklxzvs.jpg


now thats done i can get on lifting the engine and box out. tidy up all the cuts and weld in some material to make it all solid again. While they are out i can fit new fuel lines and get the tank modified with larger feed and return lines

[Brigsy]

No messing about :agree:

Will the bonnet clear ok that way?

[Adey aka Ewok]

yeah this way round i can close the bonnet without any issues. A little more work to sort it out but should be better in the long run :agree: