Need help with b18ft links

[Wallace]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::agree:

[Nottswoody]

Mot passed today just an advisory on my rear wheel bearing.. :cool: happy with it so far but I'm only running 12psi so still a bit of room to play.. The cars hunting though so needs a bit of a playing with on the maf to get it right.. Going to have a go now and if I get it right tomorrow's drive to work should be fun :burnrubber:

[B18ftMOJO5]

:smokin:

[Nottswoody]

Well the fun was short lived went to work fine. Driving home started flooding its self again. If I take the fuel relay out it starts put it back in it just floods itself agin. 145pm I left work 715 I got back the AA can **** right off.. Back to square one I don't think it's the ecu this time as I tried another and it was the same again :mad: again... I have no faith in this set up anymore and in 12yrs of driving iv never not got home before..

[Benjibrady]

Woody I really feel for you mate. That car is giving you know end of problems. For what it's worth mate, the end is just on the horizon, it'll be something silly like a faulty resistor and you'll be sorted.

[Nottswoody]

Woody I really feel for you mate. That car is giving you know end of problems. For what it's worth mate, the end is just on the horizon, it'll be something silly like a faulty resistor and you'll be sorted.

The aa tested the maf and it was still set at 320 oms I'm thinking throttle sensor

[Wallace]

Well the fun was short lived went to work fine. Driving home started flooding its self again. If I take the fuel relay out it starts put it back in it just floods itself agin. 145pm I left work 715 I got back the AA can **** right off.. Back to square one I don't think it's the ecu this time as I tried another and it was the same again :mad: again... I have no faith in this set up anymore and in 12yrs of driving iv never not got home before..

:disagree:

[Haz]

Rubbish to hear your still having problems, I thought you had cracked it.
Sounds like that could still be a loom fault. If you remove the fuel relay that should remove the live feed to the pump so won't run.
In the past I have used the wrong impedance injectors, that blows the outputs on the ecu. It's not instant though, same as your first issue, it gets richer and richer until it no longer runs.
If the ecu outputs are damaged, even though you unplug the pump relay, it would continue to fire the injectors and supply fuel until the pressure drops in the rail and no longer runs.
The ecu only needs tdc, afm and temp sensor to run, without other sensors plugged in it just guesses.
Did you find any info on the net as to which sensors, which wires to test and what readings the should give?

[Nottswoody]

I haven't no haz.. It really is getting on my tits now as I say I have no faith in it what so ever I will have a look over it over the weekend but I can't visually see anything like last time. Could it be I have the wrong loom for my lump? Your right it did get richer and richer the aa man used a quarter of a tank just trying to get it going.. That's when he gave up.. If it is the loom and ecu I'm out for the year now got other things to be spending cash on.. I must admit I regret doing the b18 I should of cut my losses and broke the dam thing.. Back on the trusty bike for me that's never let me down :)

[Nottswoody]

Can I put any loom on my car as long as the ecu matches the loom? I think mines a 1991 but I maybe able to get the loom and ecus off a 1995 would this be ok?

[Nottswoody]

Can I put any loom on my car as long as the ecu matches the loom? I think mines a 1991 but I maybe able to get the loom and ecus off a 1995 would this be ok?

So iv got it back in the garage and had a look around iv now got the throttle position sensor "clicking" well it clicks when closed but not when wide open. And again I can't see anything visually wrong the ecu doesn't "smell burnt" like last time..

Suggestions on a postcard please :scratch: I really don't want to go through everything again :scratch:

[Nottswoody]

Next question before I rip things apart I have an after market adjustable fuel reg now when I turn it over it hits 40psi then 20 while turning the engine so could that be at fault it was new but a cheap one. Or is that the ecu telling it to release?

[Haz]

Have you checked the part number on the injectors to confirm they are standard?
You can use either loom for later ecu's.
For 1/4 tank just trying to get it going is crazy, if ecu outputs are blown the injectors stay fully open, worth smelling through the oil filler cap if there's been bore washing and fuel in the sump.
Tb sensor clicks just as it opens and just before it shuts, same position.
Whenever the fuel pump is running the pressure in the rail should be 3bar at idle. Ecu doesn't control pressure.

[Nottswoody]

Had it running tonight haz and I'm afraid it's the same as before running 10s I ha it running with the green ecu and it ran lean and 2.5 revs put the orange back on it ran 10s. The injectors are 480 injectors I got them off a friend who's running bigger now.. Iv realised I now have to give up lock it away and save for standalone or break it.. I'm done with it to be honest so as my other post I'm looking for squirt standalone or what Evers out there. But either way I'm out for the year now. Actually have hate for the dam thing :)

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Real shame its still got the problem, thought you got there in the end too.
I know what its like though I've had cars like this that just refuse to be fixed and you get so pissed off with them

Even though its possible to get it going with the standard ecu I still think standalone is always the best way to go with these engines, Schwartz went standalone (megasquirt) and never regretted it and Waddies engine made huge power for the boost on a relative standard engine with standalone ecu

These cars do drag you down (trust me been there) if you stick with it the set up will work wonders in the end :agree:

[Nottswoody]

Real shame its still got the problem, thought you got there in the end too.
I know what its like though I've had cars like this that just refuse to be fixed and you get so pissed off with them

Even though its possible to get it going with the standard ecu I still think standalone is always the best way to go with these engines, Schwartz went standalone (megasquirt) and never regretted it and Waddies engine made huge power for the boost on a relative standard engine with standalone ecu

These cars do drag you down (trust me been there) if you stick with it the set up will work wonders in the end :agree:

Can everyone get the feelers out for me because I haven't a clue were to look and what for. I really can't afford efi prices at the minute. Someone must have one stashed away? Because it now becoming a pain I no longer love this car any more breaking it is now an option.

[Nottswoody]

Right then a few questions before I start taking this shit apart again..

Dose it matter what flywheel I have/ number of teeth

Dose it matter what block I have?

Can I use any matching loom and ecu with any of the above?

I'm thinking is it because I may have a miss match of parts and ecus and loom

Before I start buyin more parts I need some help in answers for the above..

So far iv seen about 5 different ecu colors it's all above me and driving me mad.
Has anyone got an idiots guide to b18ft :scratch:

[Haz]

If using a green ecu do you have the matching blue one?
Only matching needs to be flywheel, ecu's and afm.
Pre 91, orange ecu's (dual layer timing ecu), 007 afm.
91 onwards, maroon ecu's (sometime orange too but single layer timing ecu), 021 afm.
Last models green and blue ecu's (same as maroon, slightly more aggressive timing, more fuel efficient)
Early ecu's had 2 lives in loom, later ecu's had one live and bridged internally (pin 5 and 6 timing ecu so early looms can be used on all, later looms with early ecu's need an extra live.
Other colours may not be turbo ecu's and/or not as common such as European with more emission based maps etc.
Later 215mm flywheel is 60-2, I forget what early 200mm is, but think that's the same, the difference is the missing tooth/tdc position thus offset timing map to suit.
Also loom wants tdc sensor to suit (2 or 3 pin).
Head, block, crank, rods, pistons all same. Differences are cam, flywheel, clutch, turbo and elbow, ecu's and afm.
Really I always suggest buying everything from one running car to guarentee it's all compatible, and why scoff prefers to modify an existing ecu rather than exchange.

[Nottswoody]

Cheers haz so basically I'm ****ed from the start

My block says b18ft 107 c011084 on the plate beneath the oil breather yet another pals says b18ft 107 0056266 and he has the same orange ecu as me and loom he's willing to sell me but he's asked me to count the teeth on my flywheel which is going to be a mission.

What would you say do for the best? There's only the loom it's self I haven't actually changed everything else has changed apart from the flywheel of course..

[Haz]

Can you not borrow and overlay his loom loose around your engine to see if there's any difference. Change one thing at a time and buy whichever sorts the faults?

[Nottswoody]

Can you not borrow and overlay his loom loose around your engine to see if there's any difference. Change one thing at a time and buy whichever sorts the faults?

He's not actually a friend it's more a case of it the only loom iv found in months. I got the loom already stripped to begin with so having a full volvo loom and starting again may be a good idea.. Hell why not iv tried everything else..

[Markey Mark (BD)]

All of your parts mate are from an early Volvo car (pretty sure), the flywheel is the smaller 200mm one as it had/has my old clutch from my gt on it (did I sell you the clutch too I can't remember). I've only ever used a 215mm flywheel/clutch combo and that was in my old van so 100% you got the smaller one in there

With that flywheel i gave you the early loom and orange ecus with correct MAF unit so you should be ok in that department mate, everything should be matched up.

Hope it helps out abit mate, I know it is a pain in the backside when mismatching parts so tried to give you everything from one set up or same years ;)

[Nottswoody]

Cheers mark.. Saves me messing around trying to count teeth nope I didn'tt buy the clutch I have my green box volvo one on there.. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy that loom off the chap. I know the flywheel is lightened a fare bit it's just baffling me how it can do this three times now :scratch:

Do you think it could be a prob the way I have it wired into the car haz says he would of done it by the drivers side. I have it by the passenger side into the fuse box and I also used the block of doom or what ever it's called do you think I should wire it in another way?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

If you got the really light flywheel thats my old original one which is a 200mm flywheel (came off the car i broke for my engine)

How do you mean you done it to the left side? If you mean how you routed it around the bay i ran mine on the drivers side and into the bulkhead

[Nottswoody]

If you got the really light flywheel thats my old original one which is a 200mm flywheel (came off the car i broke for my engine)

How do you mean you done it to the left side? If you mean how you routed it around the bay i ran mine on the drivers side and into the bulkhead

We ran mine up the drivers wing then into the bulkhead on the passenger side and cut the aei wires and joined the live from the old fuel pump wires in the fuse box bypassing the old fuel relay if that makes sense

[Thundercat]

Paul just for the record i wired as folows; B18ft wiring has been connected to the old fuel pump relay wires as relay wasn't needed in this conversion. The oe plug of doom is only used for the ancillary parts ie starter motor, oil pressure/level, charging.
None of this should cause issue to running of engine.
Wiring loom was layed into engine bay as supplied adn there was a choose to run loom through bulkhead on either drivers or passenger side, it looked neater to run across with strut brace from drivers to passenger side and then in to area once occupied by aei.
The original aei wiring is only utilised for the feed the rev counter.

[Nottswoody]

Paul just for the record i wired as folows; B18ft wiring has been connected to the old fuel pump relay wires as relay wasn't needed in this conversion. The oe plug of doom is only used for the ancillary parts ie starter motor, oil pressure/level, charging.
None of this should cause issue to running of engine.
Wiring loom was layed into engine bay as supplied adn there was a choose to run loom through bulkhead on either drivers or passenger side, it looked neater to run across with strut brace from drivers to passenger side and then in to area once occupied by aei.
The original aei wiring is only utilised for the feed the rev counter.

As he said :) i was just asking if there's some other special way I missing.. See what the new loom dose..

[Nottswoody]

Right then

Ecu and loom I can get is matching but on my throttle sensor on the loom there is 5 wires on a 6 pin switch.. On this loom which is still orange ecu it has 6 on a 6 pin switch will it be ok? I hope so as it's the only loom in the land :dearme:


Never thought I'd have to be importing parts for a bloody5 well the volvo parts :jerkoff:

[Nottswoody]

Now chatting to guys in Germany and holland... These parts are rare :eek:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Now chatting to guys in Germany and holland... These parts are rare :eek:

Even when I was playing with them parts were hard to get, I think most of the cars were scrapped before the conversion was popular and they could be stripped of there useful bits
Grab what you can I say!

[Nottswoody]

Even when I was playing with them parts were hard to get, I think most of the cars were scrapped before the conversion was popular and they could be stripped of there useful bits
Grab what you can I say!

Just waiting for him to 2nd reply we have to go through a translator :confused: but we're getting there with pics on through fb..

[Benjibrady]

I'm quite interested to see how this goes, be nice to know there are still spares kicking around for the old girls

[Nottswoody]

Hi Paul,
Yes indeed there is news. I have one 92er turbo cable harness but it must be dismantled and that takes some time. Think about a week due to my regular job. Price: € 100,00 without postage.
Do you also need another orange jetronic wit compatible ECU (I have a purple Robou-modded ECU, but that ECU costs € 250,00.
Greetz,



Wow :wasntme::laugh::eek::cry:

[Benjibrady]

Bloody hell that's a lot of money

[Nottswoody]

Bloody hell that's a lot of money

I can see me buying a 480 at this rate or just breaking mine it's really boring the shit outa me now.. :crap:

[Nottswoody]

Still no luck on getting a loom seems the volvo 480 massive don't take too kindly to us 5 owners having there engines.. The quest and request continues:disagree:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Still no luck on getting a loom seems the volvo 480 massive don't take too kindly to us 5 owners having there engines.. The quest and request continues:disagree:

Might have abit of luck mate, while emptying the spare garage I think I found what appears to be a Volvo loom. Found it in a box tucked under 2 other boxes

I will have to get it out and check it over and see what type it is too

[Nottswoody]

First ray of sunshine :) cheers mark empty the cave see what's in there :agree:

[sieger]

what clutch size does the engine have?

[Nottswoody]

what clutch size does the engine have?

The 200mm standard green box volvo I had it on my c1j only for about 1000 miles so reused it with the volvo lump

[sieger]

purple and orange ezk's will fitt , the loom has to have 3 wires @ tds. the fuel ecu needs to be a LH 2.2 Jettronic.

i 've found some1 who has both versions as mention in the pm :)

1988 volvo 480 turbo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/tobi480turbo/volvo480-bj-88-klein.jpg
1989
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/tobi480turbo/volvo480-bj-89-klein.jpg
1991
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/tobi480turbo/volvo480-bj-91-klein.jpg

[Nottswoody]

That's brilliant could you explain tds?

[sieger]

crank shaft sensor, now iḿ not sure anymore how many wires it has to have :confused::crap:

[Nottswoody]

crank shaft sensor, now iḿ not sure anymore how many wires it has to have :confused::crap:

Pm for you chap

[Nottswoody]

Right guys iv had another response..

Hi Paul,
Yes indeed there is news. I have one 92er turbo cable harness but it must be dismantled and that takes some time. Think about a week due to my regular job. Price: € 100,00 without postage.
Do you also need another orange jetronic wit compatible ECU (I have a purple Robou-modded ECU, but that ECU costs € 250,00.
Greetz,
Joep

Now willing to ship to me in the uk for £280 what you think?

[sieger]

Shipping cost are Max €20 .

Did you het an quote from Orlando ?

[Benjibrady]

Right guys iv had another response..

Hi Paul,
Yes indeed there is news. I have one 92er turbo cable harness but it must be dismantled and that takes some time. Think about a week due to my regular job. Price: € 100,00 without postage.
Do you also need another orange jetronic wit compatible ECU (I have a purple Robou-modded ECU, but that ECU costs € 250,00.
Greetz,
Joep

Now willing to ship to me in the uk for £280 what you think?

That's quite a number mate, you could almost build a mega squirt ms1 and loom for that

[Nottswoody]

Shipping cost are Max €20 .

Did you het an quote from Orlando ?

He's not responded bud. This is from another Dutch guy

[Haz]

Seems I've missed a bit. The way the loom is wired is ok, connection wise, the route is not ideal. Running loom through metal without grommets where it can rub through will eventually become a problem. Have you sorted the rough bit by aei? The reason I run the loom the way I do is because that's how it wants to land naturally. Campus battery layout works even nicer, maybe mojo can put a pic of his up?
250 for an ecu is crazy, that's a rich pruen modded one too. The one I supplied is modded so not required. I'm on about the black timing one, which I've yet to come across a faulty one, unless it's been 'played' with. You seem to be having issues with the fuel one. Loom differences are tdc connection and timing ecu power
Remove your loom and post it to me, I'll fully strip and test it. Send me ecu's and afm too and I'll try them for you and go from there. Just mark up which one is goosed, the one that's on its way out etc.
You really need to test and eliminate what you think is wrong with what you have, otherwise you'll just keep on buying bits you may not need.
Sometimes you can be given advice that can be wrong because the advisor doesn't have all the info, like when the belt cut into the loom, not obvious but without seeing the car no one would to suggest looking for it ;)

[B18ftMOJO5]

http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/library/mojos%205?sort=2&page=3

[Nottswoody]

Seems I've missed a bit. The way the loom is wired is ok, connection wise, the route is not ideal. Running loom through metal without grommets where it can rub through will eventually become a problem. Have you sorted the rough bit by aei? The reason I run the loom the way I do is because that's how it wants to land naturally. Campus battery layout works even nicer, maybe mojo can put a pic of his up?
250 for an ecu is crazy, that's a rich pruen modded one too. The one I supplied is modded so not required. I'm on about the black timing one, which I've yet to come across a faulty one, unless it's been 'played' with. You seem to be having issues with the fuel one. Loom differences are tdc connection and timing ecu power
Remove your loom and post it to me, I'll fully strip and test it. Send me ecu's and afm too and I'll try them for you and go from there. Just mark up which one is goosed, the one that's on its way out etc.
You really need to test and eliminate what you think is wrong with what you have, otherwise you'll just keep on buying bits you may not need.
Sometimes you can be given advice that can be wrong because the advisor doesn't have all the info, like when the belt cut into the loom, not obvious but without seeing the car no one would to suggest looking for it ;)

Cheers haz but iv chopped the shit out of it now it's not worth saving.. It's the loom I need now to start again..

[V Man]

Seems I've missed a bit. The way the loom is wired is ok, connection wise, the route is not ideal. Running loom through metal without grommets where it can rub through will eventually become a problem. Have you sorted the rough bit by aei? The reason I run the loom the way I do is because that's how it wants to land naturally. Campus battery layout works even nicer, maybe mojo can put a pic of his up?
250 for an ecu is crazy, that's a rich pruen modded one too. The one I supplied is modded so not required. I'm on about the black timing one, which I've yet to come across a faulty one, unless it's been 'played' with. You seem to be having issues with the fuel one. Loom differences are tdc connection and timing ecu power
Remove your loom and post it to me, I'll fully strip and test it. Send me ecu's and afm too and I'll try them for you and go from there. Just mark up which one is goosed, the one that's on its way out etc.
You really need to test and eliminate what you think is wrong with what you have, otherwise you'll just keep on buying bits you may not need.
Sometimes you can be given advice that can be wrong because the advisor doesn't have all the info, like when the belt cut into the loom, not obvious but without seeing the car no one would to suggest looking for it ;)

Hero:smokin:

[Nottswoody]

So it looks like adaptronic is on the cards just asking scoff for prices at the min and figuring out how to get it there need some Saab injectors and I'm good to go.. Gave up the idea buying another car when I have the 5 just parked I the garage..

Anyone know anyone with a truck in the midlands?

[sieger]

:agree:,

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Good man, you'll definitely enjoy the engine a lot more with Adaptronic on it :agree:

[Nottswoody]

Good man, you'll definitely enjoy the engine a lot more with Adaptronic on it :agree:

It's cost me my second car :devil:

I should listen to everyone around me and grow the **** up!!! :dearme: but then where's the fun in that.. So we eat beans for a while longer.. I like beans :cartman:

[Nottswoody]

Got a quote of £139 to scoffs on a trailer it's 99miles from here is that right?

[B18ftMOJO5]

spoke to my mate he can do it monday tuesday or wednesday next week for you for £110:agree:

[Nottswoody]

spoke to my mate he can do it monday tuesday or wednesday next week for you for £110:agree:

Thanks but I'm not ready yet I'm just looking for the time being but I am looking ASAP just need to find out the best injectors to use with the map and spec of the b18.. See what scoff says and I will get back to you with a date.. Thanks for looking for me though:agree::agree:

[B18ftMOJO5]

Thanks but I'm not ready yet I'm just looking for the time being but I am looking ASAP just need to find out the best injectors to use with the map and spec of the b18.. See what scoff says and I will get back to you with a date.. Thanks for looking for me though:agree::agree:

cool hes available anytime when you need it done ill pm you his number.

[Benjibrady]

Awesome news mate, i'll be interested to see how it goes ;)

[Nottswoody]

spoke to my mate he can do it monday tuesday or wednesday next week for you for £110:agree:

See what you mean now woke up to 20 emails from people but your mates still winning at £110:agree:

[Thundercat]

I have access to a trailer on daily loan rate buddy.

[Nottswoody]

I have access to a trailer on daily loan rate buddy.

Top man :) saab injectors orderd will fit soon as they get here the question has been asked to scoff when is he free then off for some adaptronic :) I need boost in my life..

[Nottswoody]

Now have some Saab injectors just need to fit and wait for July as that's the closest I can get into Efi parts.. Busy man is the scoff.. Now a waiting game one I should of done along time ago

[Nottswoody]

9th of June for the adaptronic at efi parts :) sadly I'm out for fcs :( never mind onwards and upwards :agree:

[Mr Raider]

Retro cars 22nd June Santa Pod fella ;)

[Nottswoody]

Retro cars 22nd June Santa Pod fella ;)

Well that depends on the time frame scoffs fitting me in between other jobs so will take upto 10days but the mrs says it's a go so far but our girl starts her cleft lip and pallet ops on the 25th :crap: could be a good stress relief :) is there track time available?

[Nottswoody]

So will the 420d adaptronic replace most things on my b18? Like the maf and all volvo parts? It's those I have fault with I think individually they work fine together they don't.. If it's a case of everything is ran by the 420 I should be good.

[Nottswoody]

All set for Monday at Efi parts spoke to Chris/scoff and thanks to b18ftmojo5 for sorting transport..

I'm really hoping this sorts my little 5 out she's been locked up for 3months abandoned :)

Who thinks it will hit the elusive 200bhp mark.. If it dose this all might of been worth it.. If not there might be a 5 for sale :crap:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

All set for Monday at Efi parts spoke to Chris/scoff and thanks to b18ftmojo5 for sorting transport..

I'm really hoping this sorts my little 5 out she's been locked up for 3months abandoned :)

Who thinks it will hit the elusive 200bhp mark.. If it dose this all might of been worth it.. If not there might be a 5 for sale :crap:


Once the Adaptronic is fitted i'll be surprised if it didn't do more than 200bhp mate!

[Nottswoody]

Once the Adaptronic is fitted i'll be surprised if it didn't do more than 200bhp mate!

I really hope so I hoped to be having a cracking year this year on track but it hasn't happend so far..
Talking to Chris I might just need a boost controller to make it perfect but we will see what happens next week :) looks like iv got to fork out for a lap top now as well so I can use the 420d for any future diagnostic but how useful will that be I just plug the car in at home and know what's up :) I really don't know what todo go for the biggest bhp out of it or just have it running safe. Still haven't told the mrs the cost :ashamed: fingers crossed te 5 performs and behaves at Efi parts it should do iv spent enough getting it there..

[Thundercat]

Good luck buddy, be nice to see it back on the road.

[Nottswoody]

Good luck buddy, be nice to see it back on the road.

Cheers bud

I'm aiming to go to retro day at pod if all works out.. People of nottigham have probably thought my 5s gone it sat in the garage that long. Iv finally got the central locking working tonight after three years of not knowing it didn't lock the drivers door :crap: the go pro is set in the car for the drive back :) really can't wait I thought it was quick when standard I can't imagine what it will be like after scoff has a play with it.. Anything over 200 I will be a happy man. :agree: and I defiantly need to beat 15.2 at pod then the 5 can go away again for a while until we get our daughters ops out the way..

[Markey Mark (BD)]

I really hope so I hoped to be having a cracking year this year on track but it hasn't happend so far..
Talking to Chris I might just need a boost controller to make it perfect but we will see what happens next week :) looks like iv got to fork out for a lap top now as well so I can use the 420d for any future diagnostic but how useful will that be I just plug the car in at home and know what's up :) I really don't know what todo go for the biggest bhp out of it or just have it running safe. Still haven't told the mrs the cost :ashamed: fingers crossed te 5 performs and behaves at Efi parts it should do iv spent enough getting it there..


To start with go for moderate power, i still recon over 200bhp is achievable even on the first map mate. You can always map it later on for more power ;)

[B18ftMOJO5]

out of curiousity how much did it cost to buy the adaptronic kit and get it mapped? defo consider that in the future. 200bhp must be 220bhp a tonne more than enough id imagine you would struggle to get any traction beyon that.

[Nottswoody]

out of curiousity how much did it cost to buy the adaptronic kit and get it mapped? defo consider that in the future. 200bhp must be 220bhp a tonne more than enough id imagine you would struggle to get any traction beyon that.

Alot :) but worth it if it sort the car out.. Best money can buy i feel :crap:

[Haz]

Is it still on the std cam? Around 200-210bhp max iirc. Should be nicer to drive than a bypass hole setup, but at least you didn't have to faff around with all that too.
Regards the laptop, consider an android tablet with seperate keyboard instead, look up adaptronic live gauges apps. All you need then is a way to mount it on your dash ;)

[Nottswoody]

Is it still on the std cam? Around 200-210bhp max iirc. Should be nicer to drive than a bypass hole setup, but at least you didn't have to faff around with all that too.
Regards the laptop, consider an android tablet with seperate keyboard instead, look up adaptronic live gauges apps. All you need then is a way to mount it on your dash ;)

I think mark said it's the n/a cam but not sure..
Is the ipad any good haz?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

It's a different cam in there ;)

[Haz]

I don't think so, I tried to find the app on my phone but it may only be available on iPad?? I've tried with my pulso android but not on there either.
With the cam it should do around 225bhp@21psi. Does it have a 2ltr throttle body as it will make it more responsive. It only has a 3pin sensor, the std has 5pins but afaik it's because it's linked in with icv, but shouldn't be an issue on adaptronic.

[Nottswoody]

It's just the standard throttle bodie with the 5 pin throttle sensor. Dose Chris still use that one then? I guess that will be another mod I need to buy later although 220 is more than enough for me it's the torques I'm after :) tell you the truth I just want to be able to have fun init again. I'm not after pushing it you guys have all done the maximum out the b18 I just want to piss the locals off on the A roads again :)

[Nottswoody]

Well the cars at scoffs now (efi parts) what a journey it's 99 miles from me and it pissed it down all the wAy there and even worse on the way back some stupid mare nearly killed me by not looking in her blind spot. 5-10 days to see if she's all better with adaptronic.. Saw some bodies Hreg white one there that's going to be a beast. Fingers crossed it's at the best place now :) efi parts ftw:agree:

[Nottswoody]

Well not a good start so far seems when I put the red saab injectors in they were either knackerd or when I tried to start it my loom has knackerd them as they are stuck shut.. So were going for vxr injectors.. I hope things go well from here I didn't want her to be a pain for scoff too plus I'm a 100 miles away.. Never realised how bored I'd be without her :) garage cleaned garden done house work done I'm bored now lol even resorted to watching football..

[Nottswoody]

From the man him self..


Right, we're all done, best I could squeze was 215hp at 21psi ish. Running in to knock if I push any harder, so hopefully that'll do for now !

I'm happy with that for a b18 should be fun to drive :)

[R5MJH]

thats excellent so it was well worth the trip, what was you hoping to get?? is that a t28??:agree:

[Nottswoody]

thats excellent so it was well worth the trip, what was you hoping to get?? is that a t28??:agree:

I was happy over 200 so yep I'm happy I haven't fetched it yet it's a 2/3hr drive and I'm all excited at work :) yep a t28 I always knew the best to get was about 230 anyway..

Right next project f7 lol

[Trevhib]

Great, let's hope you get some time to enjoy the car for a while now! :)

The VXR injectors were ok in the end then?

[R5MJH]

Right next project f7 lol

that what mikes done, gone and bought a f7r pmsl

[Nottswoody]

Great, let's hope you get some time to enjoy the car for a while now! :)

The VXR injectors were ok in the end then?

They were Chris choice of injector and if he's happy I'm sure I will be :)

Picking it tomorrow now

[Nottswoody]

Am right in thinking you can only push the b18 to 230ish?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Am right in thinking you can only push the b18 to 230ish?

All depends what you have done to it mate, if you leave it a as a fairly standardish engine then thats about the going figure for one, if you play with things (cam, compression, head, valve train) then more can be achieved i believe
One thing though is the torque on these does feel lot stronger :agree:

[Nottswoody]

All depends what you have done to it mate, if you leave it a as a fairly standardish engine then thats about the going figure for one, if you play with things (cam, compression, head, valve train) then more can be achieved i believe
One thing though is the torque on these does feel lot stronger :agree:

I think I will be happy for now with it. Just a few things to do before Sunday. Change fluids the alternator is about knackerd just little things. Go pro is on charge ready for some boost footage :) scoffs having to put some cold start settings on the map so I won't be playing tonight :( I can see a sicky coming on tomorrow cough cough

[B18ftMOJO5]

thats great news, you derseve some good news paul hope you have a safe drive back:)

[Nottswoody]

thats great news, you derseve some good news paul hope you have a safe drive back:)

Cheers bud is there any way to advertise your mates pick up? I couldn't fault him very carefull and bang on time would defo use again.. :agree:agree:

[B18ftMOJO5]

i dont knw him personally paul. just used him off anyvan to send a car to derek lwloby on here and was happy with his service and price. used him twice since then, a nice bloke.

[Jimmy5]

Top news - but how long till your bored of 200+ bhp?

You getting a cage fitted next?

[Trevhib]

:agree:

What is the torque figure?

[Jonny5]

You picked it up yet woody?

[Nottswoody]

:agree:

What is the torque figure?

I think it's 216

So drove to work today and back giving it a bit of boost then mailed scoff saying it's only hitting 10psi.. :ashamed: I didn't know he set throttle to 60% 10psi flat to the floor for 20.5 psi :ashamed: then the tyres got a hammering.. Yes the adaptronic is a cleaver bit of kit for sure..

[Trevhib]

Ace :) Now sit back and enjoy for a few months bud :agree:

[Nottswoody]

Ace :) Now sit back and enjoy for a few months bud :agree:

I was hoping for years :confused: :cry:

[Trevhib]

Don't push your luck :wasntme:

[Nottswoody]

B18ers when bleeding your cooling system do you leave any room in te expansion tank? I know these are high pressured engines but when I leave room it was boiling when I don't it runs fine.. Took me an age and a burnt arm (a lot of pressure in the cap) to get the air out.. What's your preferd methods? The only way I could get the air out was jack te car up.. What do you do and dose all your water pipes feel tight as ****? It seems to run better when they are pressured.. Cheers

[B18ftMOJO5]

since i got the car done from haz ive only needed to top the water up once yet. it been on the rd for 18 months now. where do you have your expansipn bottle located? mines on the bulkhead level with the top of the strut tower, im sure haz said to keep it level with the top of the block. they do run hot but shouldnt be boiling.

[Nottswoody]

since i got the car done from haz ive only needed to top the water up once yet. it been on the rd for 18 months now. where do you have your expansipn bottle located? mines on the bulkhead level with the top of the strut tower, im sure haz said to keep it level with the top of the block. they do run hot but shouldnt be boiling.

It's looking like it's a massive air lock but I think it's gone now :) the car was stalling and cutting out on my way home I think it was the water temp sensor getting false readings as when I unplugged it she ran better had to jack the car up as I have mine were the oe air box was took a few times but I think it's got there now.. Ordered one of those coils you mentioned before and a new alternator which I will fit ASAP so we should all be good to go very soon. Hopefully things will settle down now.

[Benjibrady]

She just doesn't want to give you an easy ride does she mate

[Nottswoody]

She just doesn't want to give you an easy ride does she mate

The thing is I haven't even really pasted it yet. I will get it perfect then have a real go with her keep ticking the bits off the list. More important things in life at the mo but we will get there I don't think there's an old thing on there now.. I knew the alternator was on it's way out and the coil was old for £15 it's worth changing and the alternator was only £40 I got my money back off the saab injectors so it's not actually cost me anything :)

How's yours Ben?

[Benjibrady]

Christ taking it's time! Unfortunately it's all out of my control, wish I'd done the same as you and sent it to scoff but I'm commited now.

Literally just getting the loom finished and moving the header tank. Really hope to make it to prescott

[Nottswoody]

Christ taking it's time! Unfortunately it's all out of my control, wish I'd done the same as you and sent it to scoff but I'm commited now.

Literally just getting the loom finished and moving the header tank. Really hope to make it to prescott

I just totally lost the love and faith in the 5 so off to scoffs it went I had other priorities to handle.. And it's strange it's been in the garage since it's been back iv really lost interest in it now. It will come back one day :scared: I hope :crap:

[Jonny5]

Picture update as requested by woody, for woody :)

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[Nottswoody]

Cheers..

End of thread really. That's how she is and that's how she will stay now for a good while just got other things on in life with family really.. Still be around though and still might make a few shows if I can.. Thanks to all involved along the way I'd like to say iv enjoyed it lol but I didn't really towards the end but it's nice to know it's in the garage should I want it.. :smokin:

[B18ftMOJO5]

man thats one huge intercooler...sorry to hear your parking her up but family comes first always. glad to hear its all running right though.

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Least you got there in the end mate, has been a real up and down journey with this 5 hasn't it!

Know how you feel though, you done the right thing parking it up and concentrating on the family. As its done you can always come back to it when you want to :agree:
Hope all is well now with the little one

If you do decide to play with the 5 again, one thing I would suggest is get rid of the dizzy and go coil pack. Map the ignition and you can push bit more out of it ;)

[Nad-5GTT]

You've probably made the right decision in putting it in the garage :agree: other things in life are more important, hope things go ok for your daughter :)

[Nottswoody]

Least you got there in the end mate, has been a real up and down journey with this 5 hasn't it!

Know how you feel though, you done the right thing parking it up and concentrating on the family. As its done you can always come back to it when you want to :agree:
Hope all is well now with the little one

If you do decide to play with the 5 again, one thing I would suggest is get rid of the dizzy and go coil pack. Map the ignition and you can push bit more out of it ;)

So seems cheap enough would it have to be fitted and mapped again by scoff?

[Nottswoody]

Coils don't tend to fail unless they have been bumped and got hairline cracks in the tip.
You can replace just the coil,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-NGK-Ignition-Coil-Pack-VOLVO-900-Series-940-2-3-L-P-Turbo-Saloon-1995-97-/330959114808?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d0eb35238

This type works to but I wouldn't pay that! Just so you know what to look for.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S70-P80-2-4-Turbo-Saloon-1-Terminal-Fuel-Parts-Coil-Pack-Genuine-OEM-/360837614471?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVolvo&hash=item5403990b87

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meat-Doria-Ignition-Coil-Volvo-S70-2-4-Turbo-1996-2000-/191008677638?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVolvo&hash=item2c79011f06

So long as the connector plugs in it will probably work, could be Renault, Volvo Saab etc.

Tried the one from eBay and it wouldn't work :crap: so orderd one from the 2.3 volvo any ideas why the other wouldn't fire the car up? I thought a 12v coil was just a standard one?

Fitted the new 480 alternator so now my light back out :) it was charging but light was on all the time so I was paranoid.
Gear selector re aligned
Just new rear window rubbers and latches todo then that will be EVERY BLOODY THING NEW :cartman:

[Nottswoody]

226 miles to £40 :scared::cry:

[Trevhib]

That's roughly similar to my g/f's 1.8 Focus, which is not only dog slow but has soul-less power delivery/drive-ability.

Round town we get about 265 miles off £55 at 130p a litre atm, so maybe worse than what you're seeing! About 28-29mpg.

You're looking at about 33-34mpg based on your figures above. That's not bad!

[casper]

Halifax to Santa pod and back which was just over 300 mile round trip cost me £45 in fuel.That was shell nitro as well.:agree:

[Nottswoody]

That's roughly similar to my g/f's 1.8 Focus, which is not only dog slow but has soul-less power delivery/drive-ability.

Round town we get about 265 miles off £55 at 130p a litre atm, so maybe worse than what you're seeing! About 28-29mpg.

You're looking at about 33-34mpg based on your figures above. That's not bad!

That was mainly tootling around so I guess it's not too bad runs on 14.9 afr tootling and 12.9 full boost. I was worried it was too lean but apparently it's what the engine likes.. I do enjoy not having to watch the Afrs all the time now :)

[Nottswoody]

HELP :) whos the parts whiz? Can you find me a b18ft full headset gaskets for exhaust n all that.. Local factor says discontinued and so do gsf :( only got a blowing exhaust or something but if im going to strip it i might aswell doit with new gaskets.. Cheers guys

[Markey Mark (BD)]

HELP :) whos the parts whiz? Can you find me a b18ft full headset gaskets for exhaust n all that.. Local factor says discontinued and so do gsf :( only got a blowing exhaust or something but if im going to strip it i might aswell doit with new gaskets.. Cheers guys

If it's the manifold gasket i have a new one spare still mate

[Nottswoody]

If it's the manifold gasket i have a new one spare still mate

Cheers mark im not sure yet but i will take it send us your paypal on fb bud I think it's the gasket only blows under load

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Cheers mark im not sure yet but i will take it send us your paypal on fb bud I think it's the gasket only blows under load

Have a check first mate, i have a few other gaskets left over still so if you need more i can send them all in one go

[Nottswoody]

Have a check first mate, i have a few other gaskets left over still so if you need more i can send them all in one go

Brilliant!!! :yeah:

[Nottswoody]

Before I start ripping her apart.. Could the "ticking" noise come trough were the turbo meets the mani? Looks like my metal gasket has failed on one corner.. It dosnt happen on tick over just under load. Then goes away when I floor it.. Would save a lot of work if it is that otherwise I'm thinking manifold gasget..

[Nottswoody]

Before I start ripping her apart.. Could the "ticking" noise come trough were the turbo meets the mani? Looks like my metal gasket has failed on one corner.. It dosnt happen on tick over just under load. Then goes away when I floor it.. Would save a lot of work if it is that otherwise I'm thinking manifold gasget..

Well after a few hrs getting the turbo off first thing is one of the corners is missing off my metal gasget??? Too much boost for it :dearme: keep digging or go with it's that?

[Trevhib]

How much extra work is it to get the manifold gasket out? If you can face it, it's probably worth replacing that as well.

[Nottswoody]

How much extra work is it to get the manifold gasket out? If you can face it, it's probably worth replacing that as well.

It would be easier to whip the engine out bud.. One nut took me 45mins last night on the t28 not a lot of room for movement under there.. I'm waiting for the gaskets so today I'm just going to do this and realign the exhaust (it's never fitted nice) then refit hopefully it's that then next week if I get them I will re do the lot..if it wasn't for loosing the gearbox oil I'd whip it out now.. Take about 3hrs I think

[Nottswoody]

So iv been turned to having a sidey.. **** me it's loud lol sounds mental if they didn't here me before they certainly do now on the limiter.. No flames yet though :)

[B18ftMOJO5]

i used to have a side exit on my old car, though it did liss my neighbours off at 7am trying to park up after work and getting everyone up. did make a huge diffrence performance wise though. you noticed any difference in how quickly the engine revs up with it?

[rs250nut]

Install a full throttle shift device and the flames and loud bangs will be there in no time.

[Nottswoody]

i used to have a side exit on my old car, though it did liss my neighbours off at 7am trying to park up after work and getting everyone up. did make a huge diffrence performance wise though. you noticed any difference in how quickly the engine revs up with it?

I think its as quick as it was just bloody loud :) will find out on the 27th if its helped it any althogh i think its just the noise

[Nottswoody]

Bought a back up b18ft today :D so all c1j parts are for sale on FB or just pm me I can't upload on here :scared:

[Matty]

How far are you splitting your c1j engine? I could be after a few bits.

[Nottswoody]

Well I need to split the head off and see if it was either the hg or head that has issues (oil in water) not water in oil..

So fresh built bottom end with Ep cam
Piper vernier
Carb etc when I say everything it was built 3000 miles ago had issues and the lot came out in one.. See my threads.. Everything new

[Nottswoody]

So at 2500 revs I have a ticking I wouldn't say it's knocking so hopefully caught it early :cry: who's having a guess what it is? Bearings or cam top or bottom? Too much boost and right foot I'm not complaining at 200+bhp iv nailed it ALOT! Either way I will sort it :coffee:

[Matty]

It's definitely not the exhaust leaking again, like you had before? Different noise this time?

[Nottswoody]

It's definitely not the exhaust leaking again, like you had before? Different noise this time?

Nope tried that first.. Need to do one more journey in her then sumday day night I will have the sump off.. It sounds painfull this time.

[Matt_S]

You know you cursed the bloody thing when you mentioned about taking that engine crane / jig down last weekend mate!

Sorry to hear this. Hope it's nothing major and you get it sorted pal.

[Nottswoody]

What sump sealant is everyone using?

[Nottswoody]

Hi guys I'm back after a winter fall out with the 5 and family stuff to take care of but now the weather is hopefully changing and family life calming down perhaps after a few months not even looking at the 5 I might have my love back for her..

So were I'm at now unfortunately due to a lack of oil my bottom ends knocking (hopefully just shells) in the mean time iv stripped the interior out the 5 to fit a cage and buckets I can't get any more out the engine yet so she's loosing weight.. Found a little bit of the dreaded tin worm on my passenger side so that's getting taken care of first.. Love to hate these 5s but she's not going any were this summer I think..

Hope your all well :-)

[B18ftMOJO5]

Good to see you paul. Mine off road while after an accident:rolleyes:. i move houses friday so shes got a garage to go in finally.:agree::agree: so should back on the rd in no time. Im driving a golf at the minute:crap:

[Nottswoody]

Alright guys?

Well i havent posted here much latley i know been busy with family life and the 5s off the road this year im having a full strip down under the car and found some rust and holes inder the rear jacking points :cry: but hey shes an old gal so to be expected i guess.. New callipers all round new lines throughout beam off having new rear arm bushes fitted into the beam as mine are all split. New everything really underneath fully stripping the floor of all old sealer and then por 15 the lot will be clean enough to eat your dinner off hopefully. Scary to think its so rusted and thats what holds the rear axel in place.. Please do look at yours they are ageing now. New compensator as well as all lines were original how tey got through mots i do not know never leaked but very rusted at the joins. Thays about it really for me this year i will be at shows but not in the 5 this year :disagree: hope your all well?

[B18ftMOJO5]

Glad to hear you and family are well. Look forward to actually meeting you in the flesh at ND :agree: mines in for mot coming monday.

[Nottswoody]

And you bud :)

Family's getting there bud youngest has a long road ahead of her but shes strong and happy so were happy at that for the min just take it day by day really.. I definitely need some pod inspiration that's for sure :) all interior is out now I have a cage and buckets ready to go in once the welding a done.. Then some slicks and hopefully some better times I lost a lot of time bloody wheel spinning :disagree: as a fraze I heard " spinning ain't winning" then hopefully maybe a little more engine mods might be possible in the future :wasntme: we will see.

[R5MJH]

sounds like ur into street outlaws paul like loads of us:laugh:

[Nottswoody]

sounds like ur into street outlaws paul like loads of us:laugh:

Yep iv driven mine for nearly 4yrs now mrs hates it can't have the kids init I was hammering it to work and back.. So why not just use it for pod? I spent £££££ doing it up and killed two engines in 6000miles so my theroy is if I only use it for pod it should last years :) watched outlaws since day 1 and all other program's on sky at the min the mrs hates it :) 13.9 wasn't bad but I know she can do better..

[Trevhib]

Good to see the groundwork being done :)

[Nottswoody]

So welding guys!!!

Outer sills are mint but the inners are toast.. Easy enough to do or do the outers have to come off again?

[B18ftMOJO5]

So welding guys!!!

Outer sills are mint but the inners are toast.. Easy enough to do or do the outers have to come off again?

Are you still coming ND pal,

[Nottswoody]

Are you still coming ND pal,

I should be but not in the 5 I'm trying to get it booked off as of right now I'm booked in so will just pay on the gate I think..

[James5]

Yep iv driven mine for nearly 4yrs now mrs hates it can't have the kids init I was hammering it to work and back.. So why not just use it for pod? I spent £££££ doing it up and killed two engines in 6000miles so my theroy is if I only use it for pod it should last years :) watched outlaws since day 1 and all other program's on sky at the min the mrs hates it :) 13.9 wasn't bad but I know she can do better..


:agree: Looking forward to seeing you running at Retro Day,

[Nottswoody]

:agree: Looking forward to seeing you running at Retro Day,

My 5 won't be at pod this year bud.. I'm battling rust control this year :cry:

[James5]

My 5 won't be at pod this year bud.. I'm battling rust control this year :cry:

Noooooo

[Nottswoody]

Noooooo

Sadly yes.. Passenger side inner sill is gone completely all the sealant has held water and it's now ****ed it good and proper drivers isn't as bad but rusted and they were done in 06 :eek:
Got the rear beam off and both rear jacking points are rotted and have holes in were it fastens to the floor.. So complete rip out all new items underneath everything new brakes/lines/ everything it will be a new car.. But sadly will be off the road as long as needed no half measures here :)

[James5]

Sadly yes.. Passenger side inner sill is gone completely all the sealant has held water and it's now ****ed it good and proper drivers isn't as bad but rusted and they were done in 06 :eek:
Got the rear beam off and both rear jacking points are rotted and have holes in were it fastens to the floor.. So complete rip out all new items underneath everything new brakes/lines/ everything it will be a new car.. But sadly will be off the road as long as needed no half measures here :)

Dude at least once done as you say will be a new car, you going to tackle the welding yourself:agree:

[Nottswoody]

Dude at least once done as you say will be a new car, you going to tackle the welding yourself:agree:

Not the big stuff but I will be buying a welder for the little I will have to nip to the scrapers and get some metal and practice on that before I do my car

[Thundercat]

Keep on it bud, my trophy is in same condition, both inners to be welded.

[Nottswoody]

So no real update apart from its rotten as hell under there :cry: both sills inner sills are bad enough to need doing both rear jacking points are really bad in my eyes so i am cutting it all out and starting fresh. In the mean time iv had the rear beam bushes done the garage said they was not nice todo and said he would never do another set :) stripped and painted the beam painted all brackets taken off the car because I'm a cheap ass and had some paint left over. New brakes all round new brake lines fuel lines ext ext. i will get there in the end lots of grinding taken all the sealant off underneath that was the worst job ever as id smothered it last year in underbody sealant last year. All not very nice on my back with about a foot of height off the floor. Why do we do this too ourselves? I really don't know anymore all the funs gone out the 5 at the minute. With family life and work i think it will be done next year at the earliest. Still undecided if i should stick to red or go another colour on the 5 :scratch:

Onwards and upwards..

[Trevhib]

Those rear beam bushes are a nightmare! When they need doing again in 20yrs, take it back to the same place, maybe he'll have forgotten how bad a job it was :D

[Nottswoody]

Those rear beam bushes are a nightmare! When they need doing again in 20yrs, take it back to the same place, maybe he'll have forgotten how bad a job it was :D

Bassiclly he had to burn them then air saw them then callapse them grind the rust away grease then re fit with a press .. Charged me £60 for it plus £16.99 for the bushes to say they have done about 230000 miles i dont think there that bad.. He even said cracks in the rubber are ok its only a mot failure if its split.. Well worth doing though surley its such a large bush.

[Nottswoody]

Bassiclly he had to burn them then air saw them then callapse them grind the rust away grease then re fit with a press .. Charged me £60 for it plus £16.99 for the bushes to say they have done about 230000 miles i dont think there that bad.. He even said cracks in the rubber are ok its only a mot failure if its split.. Well worth doing though surley its such a large bush.


Wow ow haven't been on for a long while.. Been busy with family stuff so the 5s on the back burner for the time being but still doing bits to kill the rust issues an hr at a time. I won't give up till she's back up and running. So far I've done passengers inner sill new floor and jacking point front and rear so much rott was found under the beam where it touches the body so I've made new and thicker for both sides.. Been a bitch learning to weld at the same time but I will get there.. Once I work out how to work photos on the new site I will upload some.. 👍.

[Trevhib]

Keep it up Paul :agree: Pics should be easier now! :)