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Jankees
23-05-2013, 10:50
Hello I am Jan-Kees and I drive a Twingo I from 2004 the engine is a 1.2 16V TCE 2008 known from Twingo MK2 GT's

mods so far;

KW inox coilover suspension
Pleie sports Roll Cage
Clio 16v brakes Front and rear
Goodridge brake lines
Ferodo DS2500 pads
Team Dynamics Pro race 1.2 Wheels Currently with Toyo Proxes
195/45/14
converted to studs with 4x15mm spacers
Bucket seats/safety belts
Ltec racing stearingwheel
Renault spoiler
Race battry oddesy
Removed Airconditioning,RADIO,Dashboard,all padding rear seats
doorpanels and much more
KDFi management system
Wide band Lambda
Race kat plus full Inox system
I added some pictures to make it visual


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Logg
23-05-2013, 11:10
Wow that looks like a excellent conversion. :cool:

Any bhp figures?

How much boost?

What turbo are you using?

Jankees
23-05-2013, 11:24
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Wow that looks like a excellent conversion. :cool:

Any bhp figures?

How much boost?

What turbo are you using?

I have not been on the Dyno yet

I ran 17,4 PSI but recently dropped to 14,5-15
The clutch can not hold it and the clampforce of the std
headbolting is not big enough, it started leaking and I
had to rebuild it

The turbo now being used is the stock TCE one

Planning on building a new engine with forged rods and pistons, ARP bolting etc..
in the winter.
I then will mount a better clutch and can opt for a bigger turbo

But it is very much fun as it is to be honest

xenon
23-05-2013, 21:46
:agree:

Logg
23-05-2013, 21:49
New poster! (less than 10 posts)



I have not been on the Dyno yet

I ran 17,4 PSI but recently dropped to 14,5-15
The clutch can not hold it and the clampforce of the std
headbolting is not big enough, it started leaking and I
had to rebuild it

The turbo no being used is the stock TCE one

Planning on building a new engine with forged rods and pistons, ARP bolting etc..
in the winter.
I then will mount a better clutch and can opt for a bigger turbo

But it is very much fun as it is to be honest

Sounds like you've tested the standard set up to the limit. :)

Jankees
26-05-2013, 12:56
:agree:

royz
26-05-2013, 20:13
nice motor always liked the first twingo nice to see some being tweeked

Tutuur
26-05-2013, 21:18
Very nice JK, pretty much finished for the sangliers i guess?!

Jankees
27-05-2013, 07:17
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Very nice JK, pretty much finished for the sangliers i guess?!

Yep ready as I'll ever B

Just needs a wash and suck, perhaps some wax on wax off action :D

Hopefully you will also be ready on time

Jankees
09-06-2013, 15:09
looking for a new gearbox, currently I am driving with the std one
this is pretty good but I want it to drop some rpm on highway use and increase topspeed
as it now runs easily in the rev limiter running 5th gear running 4200 rpm cruising 120km/h

now I use a JB1 996

I also want to increase the power as I will build a new engine in the winter
is the JB3 already a stronger type? as it is used with k4m engines
perhaps a DCI one

All suggestions are welcome

Os8472
09-06-2013, 15:31
Depends on what speedo drive u need?

Jankees
09-06-2013, 16:15
Depends on what speedo drive u need?

I have the digital puls insert type, electric
the list says 21/19
I tried to upload the table but as I am on holiday in France I have a **** camping connection:mad:

I would love to maintain the original speedo, but if the perfect solution gearboxwise
will be without this option I will be glad to drop it. It could be as easy as a Sigma from a bike ,lol

Jankees
12-10-2013, 19:31
Currently building a new TCE engine, planning to have it running March 2013

Purchased from UK trough Ebay


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Changed the trigger pattern to suit my KDFI so now it is a genuine 60-2

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Jankees
12-10-2013, 19:37
I have purchased these rods for my twingo, as they are the weakest part of the engine
It is a shame that you can not see these nice parts once fitted :)
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-PXRB7KOJ.jpg

Rods have arrived
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto550-KD8BQJX8.jpg

Today I fitted the 480Turbo clutch (art.nr VALEO 801015)
This clutch is able to handle the power
As the centre pins line up it was a easy operation
basically it was just bolting the old and new clutch together
with 3x M6 bolts in the alignment holes and your template is ready
It fits perfectly so this is another job done!
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Andrew Cooke
12-10-2013, 19:51
Hello Fellow Twingoer:D

I have some suspension questions for you...

I have the H+R kit, but had to swap the front springs to some linear 5N/mm ones, but I still bottom out the front suspension when I hit a bump in a corner. Do you know what rate your springs are? I don't have an anti-roll bar, that might help, not sure if it would still fit.

I think I need to stiffen up the rear a lot, it's impossible to make my car oversteer, is yours the same?

I might see if there are any bumpstops inside the Bilstein dampers, I could maybe remove them to stop the bottoming. I haven't lowered the car much, I'm sure yours is lower.

Andy

Jankees
12-10-2013, 20:10
Hello Fellow Twingoer:D

I have some suspension questions for you...

I have the H+R kit, but had to swap the front springs to some linear 5N/mm ones, but I still bottom out the front suspension when I hit a bump in a corner. Do you know what rate your springs are? I don't have an anti-roll bar, that might help, not sure if it would still fit.

I think I need to stiffen up the rear a lot, it's impossible to make my car oversteer, is yours the same?

I might see if there are any bumpstops inside the Bilstein dampers, I could maybe remove them to stop the bottoming. I haven't lowered the car much, I'm sure yours is lower.

Andy

Andrew,

Just read your topic you have a real sleeper there, loving it!!

I do not now what rate my springs are sorry:(

The weight of my engine is a fraction of yours, its
a single camshaft 16v with manual valve lifters;)
So when I do some hard cornering(nordschleife) it is still very controllable

I am running -1deg cambershims on the rear axle

Andrew Cooke
12-10-2013, 20:27
I think the engine added an extra 40Kg to the front of the car, so with me in the car it's only an extra 7% on the front axle.

I have about 1deg rear camber, or whatever putting a broken bit of hacksaw blade in the gap does :laugh:

Are antiroll bars (and brackets) easily available?

Can you get stiffer wishbone bushes? If not I was thinking of getting some made, do you think there is a market for them?

What I'd really like are some new standard seat covers, mine are rotten and have holes. I'd want then to be original.

Have you looked at my original build, or just the latest Turbo upgrade?

Andy

Jankees
13-10-2013, 10:03
I think the engine added an extra 40Kg to the front of the car, so with me in the car it's only an extra 7% on the front axle.

I have about 1deg rear camber, or whatever putting a broken bit of hacksaw blade in the gap does :laugh:

Are antiroll bars (and brackets) easily available?

Can you get stiffer wishbone bushes? If not I was thinking of getting some made, do you think there is a market for them?

What I'd really like are some new standard seat covers, mine are rotten and have holes. I'd want then to be original.

Have you looked at my original build, or just the latest Turbo upgrade?

Andy

I also read the whole non turbo story

Anti roll bars are std on some versions you should be able to get hold of some
fairly easy, they are connected with the shocker housing trough small torque rods

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto550-KLKMDAKY.jpg

I am interested in "powerflex" wishbone bushing, but I do not think
there is a big market for it

Tutuur
13-10-2013, 11:15
Chances are big the bushings are exactly the same dimensions as gtt/clio/19 bushings.