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Anyone have any pics or info. Thought I had everything. I can't see how the pipe run goes past the alternator. No room. Any help would be great.
Cheers.
Tiny Tim
29-12-2008, 12:00
Between the alternator and slam panel or round the side of the alternator? They can be a very tight fit. I fitted a shorter belt on one of my old fives, helped alot.
Anyone have any pics or info. Thought I had everything. I can't see how the pipe run goes past the alternator. No room. Any help would be great.
Cheers.
im sure some people niped a bit off the front engine mount if that makes much difference
Cheers guy's. Yeah both sound like good ideas. What happened to the pics from the old site?
Sy, I'll fetch a pic of my old engine bay, the pipe run is kind of similar dude...
http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/?action=view¤t=fmicengbay.jpg
The pipes will go over the alternator with 2 90 deg bends.
You can also reduce the crank pulley size/belt clearance by nabbing the pulley and belt off of a campus...;)
Also have a look in this guide to help out with fitment, or just an idea of installation.
There are pictures of the alternator piping and fitment, hope thats of use to you.
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/r5fmicinst.pdf
Cheers dude. Will have another go after lunch. :)
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/r5fmicinst.pdf
What a fecking 'bodge it & run' fitment :dearme: Cut here, shave there, fudge this, feck that, remove as near as damn it the front cross-member (always a bad move) without even re-strengthening it afterwards (even worse!), etc etc, ad nauseum.
Not helped by the fact that the Forge core is a pile of w8nk in the first place.
Way to go Forge Motorsport... :sad2:
Between the alternator and slam panel or round the side of the alternator? They can be a very tight fit. I fitted a shorter belt on one of my old fives, helped alot.
I don't suppose you know what belt you fitted Timmy?
Tiny Tim
29-12-2008, 14:04
Umm not really, it was a good 5 years ago now. 1150mm?? Gawd knows. Take a GTT one into your local motor factors and try to get one slightly shorter, im sure they'll let you return it/swap it if its too long/short.
The new Bill J
29-12-2008, 16:26
Umm not really, it was a good 5 years ago now. 1150mm??
I remember, because i'm still waiting for you to get me one :sad:
I don't suppose you know what belt you fitted Timmy?
im shore the campus bottom pulley wheel was bigger hence making the std size belt shorter i can measure a oe belt if thats any help
Markey Mark (BD)
29-12-2008, 17:32
im shore the campus bottom pulley wheel was bigger hence making the std size belt shorter i can measure a oe belt if thats any help
The campus pulley is smaller thatn the gt one mate
im shore the campus bottom pulley wheel was bigger hence making the std size belt shorter i can measure a oe belt if thats any help
That would be good mate. Went to Halfords today and there worse than useless. Off to my local motor factors in the morning(they shut at 1pm today :mad:) and any info would be great.
im shore the campus bottom pulley wheel was bigger hence making the std size belt shorter i can measure a oe belt if thats any help
It's smaller.
Circa 1175mm rings a bell as being the length of an o.e belt.
is the forge core really that bad was thinking of getting one eventually? cheers
Given up now. :cry:
Too bloody cold. The smaller alternator belt helped but I can't seem to get the pipe work to meet up with the carb top. :mad:
Tiny Tim
30-12-2008, 14:10
Bring it down you tart.
I think i've got some 52mm hose off-cuts kicking about in the garage too.
Tiny Tim
30-12-2008, 14:11
I remember, because i'm still waiting for you to get me one :sad:
:laugh: Forgot about that... unsiprusing considering it was about 4 years ago.
Not got any motor factors round your way Bill? :rolleyes:
Bring it down you tart.
I think i've got some 52mm hose off-cuts kicking about in the garage too.
Cheers mate but Merlin Motorsport is 5 mins away. Will get a couple of straight joiners tomorrow. Darts are on now..:)
dangerous dave
30-12-2008, 15:44
i sold Mr Turbo a nice pipe run and a cossie cooler, not a bad fit either.. if you can get hold of him try get a look at it and maybe a few pics:)
i sold Mr Turbo a nice pipe run and a cossie cooler, not a bad fit either.. if you can get hold of him try get a look at it and maybe a few pics:)
Nice one Dave. Cheers. I think I need to use more ally pipe than I first thought. I'll have another look tomorrow. I'll give him a pm.
The new Bill J
30-12-2008, 15:48
Not got any motor factors round your way Bill? :rolleyes:
Yep, and as I said to you all those years ago, none of them could get hold of a 10 X 1163mm belt. Even Sir Sparkie couldn't find one after 32 days of solid hunting!
Yep, and as I said to you all those years ago, none of them could get hold of a 10 X 1163mm belt. Even Sir Sparkie couldn't find one after 32 days of solid hunting!
I'm now using a 1175mm. I did have a 1187mm.
Tiny Tim
30-12-2008, 15:56
Im sorry Bill, I failed. Next time im in the area i'll make a special trip over JUST FOR YOU.
The new Bill J
30-12-2008, 16:01
Im sorry Bill, I failed. Next time im in the area i'll make a special trip over JUST FOR YOU.
I'm sure you will Timmy :laugh:
Tiny Tim
30-12-2008, 16:05
Its only down the road from that goldmine of a Renault specialist shop in Luton - didnt you go there with Huge Jeans and nab some brand new OE GTT dials?
The new Bill J
30-12-2008, 16:18
Its only down the road from that goldmine of a Renault specialist shop in Luton - didnt you go there with Huge Jeans and nab some brand new OE GTT dials?
We went up there a few times to rob him of loads of exciting bits :D
I haven't been up there for a few years though. Got other things to do with my money now, like saving up for a new car, maybe :scratch:
MR TURBO
30-12-2008, 18:17
Nice one Dave. Cheers. I think I need to use more ally pipe than I first thought. I'll have another look tomorrow. I'll give him a pm.
Just been reading this thread and also looking for some pics of the intercooler and piping i got from Dave. But the pics were on the temporary forum which is now gone as i've been informed by Dawn...I still have the intercooler never fitted it because i bought another intercooler and am still waiting to fit that one too :D I'll see if i can find the pipe work and take a couple of pics for ya if that would help!!
Unused by me cossie cooler hint hint ;)
Just been reading this thread and also looking for some pics of the intercooler and piping i got from Dave. But the pics were on the temporary forum which is now gone as i've been informed by Dawn...I still have the intercooler never fitted it because i bought another intercooler and am still waiting to fit that one too :D I'll see if i can find the pipe work and take a couple of pics for ya if that would help!!
That would be good mate. Cheers. :agree:
the temporary forum is still alive, its here:
http://g7wfs.sytes.net/cgi-bin/ubb/rtoc.cgi
MR TURBO
30-12-2008, 19:05
the temporary forum is still alive, its here:
http://g7wfs.sytes.net/cgi-bin/ubb/rtoc.cgi
Scoff your a legend now lets see............:wasntme:
MR TURBO
30-12-2008, 19:10
here are the pics that i had of it.....
Sweet. Thanks very much guy's.
I've put this mod on hold (before I put it in the bin :mad:). The SFS elbows I have are -
2 x 90 deg reducers
2 x 90 deg
2 x 45 deg
I also have 1 metre + of straight alloy tube. I was told this was what I needed but can't work the pipe order out. I have the shortest alt belt I could fit and there's still not enough room for a 90 deg elbow behind the alt. The BB carb top is so close to the oil filler cap I'll have to remove the pipe work to top up the oil. DAMN CAR.:mad:
Happy new year to ya'll :)
Tiny Tim
31-12-2008, 10:39
Not like you'll be putting oil in the car every week though is it :laugh:
Or is it? :crap:
You want a fairly long straight piece of silicone hose from the carb plenum so as to clear and not damage the oil cap and ht leads, then some metal pipe upto the alternator. Bend over the alternator and then some more straight (length will depend on where you put the intercooler) then another silicone bend into the cooler.
As for the other side, a bend out of the turbo inlet, a piece of straight metal pipe into another bend thats attached to the other side of the cooler.
Easy as pie. Nice easy pie.
Oil in when it starts to rattle :wasntme:
I get what your saying Tim but with the reducer elbow I have it just doesn't allow an ally pipe behind the alt. It comes out underneath it. And without almost kinking it I can't get up and around the alt. The only thing I can think of is cutting brand new pipes :confused:
Tiny Tim
31-12-2008, 10:49
Simple possible solution before you go hacking up sexy new silicone then... have you got a powerflow or equivelant near you? If the cars driveable, get it down there and ask them to bend you some exhaust pipe. i've done that several times over the years with various cars. It'll cost feck all and they can get the perfect bend for you.
Merlin Motorsport do custom exhaust bits. I think I need something slightly question mark shaped. I'll go and ask them. Thanks Timmy.:agree:
Tiny Tim
31-12-2008, 11:01
hmmmmmmmmmm ?
Here's some gash pictures of one of my old 5's - with the help of some short straights it was interchangeable from grille to front mounted. Note the shape of the metal pipe over the alternator...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/TinyTim21/Cars/FMIC005.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/TinyTim21/Cars/FMIC002.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/TinyTim21/Cars/FMIC001.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/TinyTim21/Cars/cooling.jpg
Cheers mate. I'm not going to try again today as it is pi**ing me off just thinking about it. I'm waiting for Spencer to get online as he has done it with the pipes I have and has Pics etc. Oh well, probably too cold for a front mount anyway :wasntme:
I'll wait. Gonna fit my standard brakes and Speedlines instead. What can go wrong with that......:crap:
Been looking at the temp site and Spencer say's 2 45 deg elbows will get around the alt. Is there alot of difference in length between samco and sfs?
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