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What car washing liquid,polish & wax do people recommend?
I've tried several now but not overly impressed:crap: so just wonder what peps use!:D
Polish,auto glym srp,and wax either poorboys nattys blue or auto glym hi def.Think thays about as good as it gets.:agree:
Slammed 66
04-04-2013, 21:09
I generally use water. I've had good results when using a sponge too :agree:
;)
dont forget the washing up liquid...
TNT Tricky Nicky
04-04-2013, 21:21
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=20653&highlight=bucket+method
That popped into my head, still chuckle when I see people talking about the two bucket method as I automatically remember car.crash asking if he could use the same bucket twice :laugh:
I use auto glym products, normally wheel cleaner and normal wash stuff. Might give it a rub with srp if I've got time and energy, that's it really
r5_scotty
04-04-2013, 21:22
the trouble i always find is that most products always take the wax off when washed. best stuff ive used so far is dodo juice juiced edition wax and born to be mild shampoo.
check this site out. i love it!!!
www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk (http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/manufacturers/2/dodo-juice?view=brand&brand_id=2&category_id=0&sortby=h)
I generally use water. I've had good results when using a sponge too :agree:
;)
:wasntme::wasntme: yeah thanks for that:cooter:
I've never really tried Auto glym products but my old man swears by them:agree:
Think I'll go the dodo juice route, they seem expensive but I hope u get what u pay for!
Thing is its the same for me, when I've washed the car the gloss does disappear, and I am a right tart:ashamed: love keeping it clean and shiny:wasntme::wasntme:
There's a great place near my house shinearama which have all the stuff , I use poor boys ,
http://www.shinearama.co.uk/
I've never really tried Auto glym products but my old man swears by them:agree:
Think I'll go the dodo juice route, they seem expensive but I hope u get what u pay for!
Thing is its the same for me, when I've washed the car the gloss does disappear, and I am a right tart:ashamed: love keeping it clean and shiny:wasntme::wasntme:
Auto glym hi def wax will not wash off like that.Expensive,about 45 quid but you dont need much and lasts for ages..:eek:
Probably opening myself up to much ridicule but the the finish is all in the prep and decontamination so you should be looking at a de-tar and Iron X and then claying of the paintwork. A nice neutral shampoo like Dodo born to be mild will not strip any wax, lime prime polish and auto glym hd wax is very good. You will also need a good wash mitt and selection of micro fibres.
Nice one fellas:agree:
Thought I'd ask cause my car gets cleaned more than its driven:laugh::D:D
Probably opening myself up to much ridicule but the the finish is all in the prep and decontamination so you should be looking at a de-tar and Iron X and then claying of the paintwork. A nice neutral shampoo like Dodo born to be mild will not strip any wax, lime prime polish and auto glym hd wax is very good. You will also need a good wash mitt and selection of micro fibres.
I do have most of the above, but I think the ph neutral shampoo is the way to go:agree:
Once I've had some good use out of the car I am gonna go to town with a clay etc to get the paint mint!! It's good now but the bonnet in particular has lots of light scratches from when I was doing the engine bay refurb and kept moving the bonnet from one place to another:mad::D
r5_scotty
04-04-2013, 22:00
also dodo juice is made from natural products :agree: clay bars a great too but use them once a year on a daily driver or you will undo all the hardwork you`ve put in!!! if your car is in the garage and doesnt see alot of our english weather then clay once detail and just keep waxing a shampooing and all should be good :D
also dodo juice is made from natural products :agree: clay bars a great too but use them once a year on a daily driver or you will undo all the hardwork you`ve put in!!! if your car is in the garage and doesnt see alot of our english weather then clay once detail and just keep waxing a shampooing and all should be good :D
:agree:
Is RTOC turning into cliosport ?? ;):D
Is RTOC turning into cliosport ?? ;):D
It will do when I start posting pics of my polished door lock':D:D:laugh::laugh::wasntme::cooter:
Ill admit to using the two bucket method :laugh:
I use poorboys stuff and victoria concours wax, a bit of effort in the prep goes very far.
Done the wifes meg on sat, quick clay/filler/wax. Turned out well for 3 hrs graft. It will be getting a machine polish come summer for a proper job:agree:
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm453/Brigsygtt/b707472f5f8df4488da52668a353bc7c_zpsf1a69a54.jpg
Love it:agree:
Some of us are secret O.C.D freaks after all :laugh::wasntme:
BluntyR5GTT
05-04-2013, 05:59
as said above a good de tar/iron x followed by clar bar is a good start and will get the paint ready for the next stages.
There is a whole range of stuff out there i have got and tried heaps of it, auto glym is decent stuff and very user friendly, you can also pick up there hd wax for around £25-30 off ebay.
poorboys make some great products i personally like there blackhole glaze which is a great pre show filler before wax, also chemical guys make an excellent product called blacklight which is like an all in one.
wax wise i have fount the ag hd wax and more so the dodo juice supernatural hybrid to be the most durable, but for the wettest look it has to be chemical guys butter wet wax (good show wax not very durable).
i will be trying out some of the britemax and alot of the autobrite range in the coming months so ill report how i find them
Bucket of wash wax and a sponge. Then a rince and dry off. I can't beleive people have that much patience and time to clean a car! :laugh:
dangerous dave
05-04-2013, 08:07
there are a few on here that go to town on their cars, but i've never had a 5 that was worth more effort than a bucket wash and a wax.. 20 year old chips, dents, scratches etc just dont buff out.. even mums clio 182 has got to the point where the efforts pointless, it needs a dent man out..
one day i'll break out the dodo juice again..
car.crash
05-04-2013, 08:46
Is RTOC turning into cliosport ?? ;):D
Just painting my bullets.
BluntyR5GTT
05-04-2013, 09:02
Bucket of wash wax and a sponge. Then a rince and dry off. I can't beleive people have that much patience and time to clean a car! :laugh:
Haha alex but there is always method to my madness i normally end up steaming by the end of the day. Hence why im always a bit worse for wear at the meets haha
Then again I suppose my paint work doesn't warrant much of a clean - you can't polish a turd! :D
Owning a matt black car means i don't get to polish mine :(
I can however just get the rattle can out to repair any chips!
Might go to town polishing the yellow one as I haven't washed it since I've had it...
Then again I suppose my paint work doesn't warrant much of a clean - you can't polish a turd! :D
unless you take a picture of it;) makes my turd look nice and shiny.
I just wash it then leather it dry, gets a coat of wax once a year, as for products i just grab whatever is around and use that. Mine is about three different shades of raider blue and has a rusty screen surround so as long as it's presentable that will do me:agree:
unless you take a picture of it;) makes my turd look nice and shiny.
I just wash it then leather it dry, gets a coat of wax once a year, as for products i just grab whatever is around and use that. Mine is about three different shades of raider blue and has a rusty screen surround so as long as it's presentable that will do me:agree:
Thats pretty much what I do and how I feel about the appearance :)
The new Bill J
05-04-2013, 12:52
I've never really tried Auto glym products but my old man swears by them:agree:
All old men do :laugh:. Autoglym make some very good products, but I tend to use other stuff these days.
Thing is its the same for me, when I've washed the car the gloss does disappear, and I am a right tart:ashamed: love keeping it clean and shiny:wasntme::wasntme:
I know what you mean. I use Dodo Juice Sour Power shampoo, which I've found the best out of that, Born to be Mild, and Supernatural. It leaves a glossy finish after it's been washed. If you need more, you can use a quick detailer afterwards.
If you're going to try Dodo wax, then try their panel pots first for a few $$. Blue Velvet is my personal favourite.
scratcher
05-04-2013, 13:14
Are you going to be polishing by hand? If so Auto Finesse Tripple is a great all in one polish that cleans, polishes, fills and leaves some protection.
Dodo Juice waxes are still some of the best value for money. I like their Rainforest Rub the most :)
Poorboy's Natty's Red is another brilliant, easy to use wax that doesn't cost the earth.
If you want to push the boat out I have a spare pot of Auto Finesse - Desire for sale ;)
Shampoos are a very wide area as everyone has their favorites. Dodo born to be mild is my go to one, cleans really well and is super lubricated to reduce wash marring.
Better products will help maintain the finish for longer. A higher quality wax will still look great after a few months, where a lesser one will start to fad in looks after a few washes. You can use a quick detailer after you've washed and dried the car to bring back that glossy look. But it's only short lived.
Finally, a detailing topic on RTOC. I never thought I'd see the day :laugh:
Agree with the dodo juice products - all seem good from my experience. The red mist is excellent.
Some pukka advice there fellas cheers:agree:
Well f**k it, once I've gone the full hog I'll start the next thread where we show what we've polished &waxed:cooter::wasntme:
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Some pukka advice there fellas cheers:agree:
Well f**k it, once I've gone the full hog I'll start the next thread where we show what we've polished &waxed:cooter::wasntme:
:agree:
I dare you.:D
Im doing mine tomorow,auto glym srp,followed by poorboys black hole,then poorboys nattys blue wax.Sad i no.:ashamed:
scratcher
05-04-2013, 18:59
Black hole will remove the fillers left by SRP so just use one or the other. You won't see any benefits from using both ;) it'll save you time too.
I dare you.:D
It'll just be good clean 5 GT porn:D:D:D
newbstar*
05-04-2013, 22:58
Red car, Victoria's concours best bang for buck. Auto finesse tough coat on pearl white is awesome! Chemical guys extra gloss shampoo is good also zymol shampoo that halfords sell.
gttjames
06-04-2013, 08:50
Well I got into detailing a few years ago, got a new (to me) car and it was only on 20k, and 2years old, so as new as it gets for me :laugh: (ly r26)- wanted to keep it clean so signed into detailingworld. Got some info off there, 2 bucket method to avoid swirls, wheel cleaner/sealent, good wash and wax products etc... before I new it I had a das6 polisher and aload of microfibers etc
Iv never spent a whole weekend cleaning a car etc, but I have fully machined mine over a morning and waxed and sealed it etc - very satisfying results and also speeds up the next cleans. Dirt doesn't sit on waxed cars as much and most just rinses off, and then water runs off and easier and quicker to dry it.
My r5 has never been mint so have left that, but when it comes back from bodyshop... fresh paint etc might aswell keep it looking good, with a good wash method and some good products. But im not the type who cotton buds hard to reach places and detailis every square inch - personally havnt got time for it and not the concentration :laugh:
A few pics of my work
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/bigger003.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/bigger006.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/civicdetail010.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/civicdetail013.jpg
Slammed 66
06-04-2013, 10:32
In all honesty, I just don't get this detailing thing. Fair play if you enjoy it but I'd rather be driving my car on a sunny day than chasing the polish round before it dries on hot metalwork.
We recently discussed this on barryboys.
It was brought about by this thread:
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=347865&page=1
And got so anal that this happened:
http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25802&start=100
I recommend reading all 7 pages as its utterly hilarious but best of all is the second post on page 6 :agree:
rs250nut
06-04-2013, 10:56
I never know how this "detailing" thing came about, I mean I though you had your car valeted and if you wanted to make it look real mint had someone mop it? I have been polishing cars, planes, boats etc to a non swirl finish for as long as I have been a painter but never called it "detailing". And as far as spending 5 large on wax, wtf? I bet 9 out of 10 peeps would not even see the difference from some £2.99 gear brought from the market. I would be prepared to lay down the gauntlet to any "pro" detailer to see who produced the best finish.
I have been a painter but never called it "detailing"
Isn't the term 'detailing' an Americanism that we have gradually adopted? I carried out a bit of valeting in the late 90's early noughties and never heard the word back then.
scratcher
06-04-2013, 14:45
It is pretty much just the American term for valeting but was adopted here. It's generally used when further care and attention to detail is taken.
Generally a valeter would come and wash and wax a car in an hour tops where a detailer would take much like nger going through processes to ensure the paint is perfectly clean and free from contaminants before laying down a good wax or sealant.
The difference visually between a cheap and expensive wax will be very marginal when they're first applied but the durability of the 'just waxed' look will be much better with a high end wax.
And the ease of use tends to be much better with a better quality wax.
gttjames
06-04-2013, 21:20
guys i completley agree on a nice a day im out in the 5 where possible - but im smiling even more as my car is clean and looks 10x better without the swirls.
To be fair im probably not even a detailer compared to most, as i dont spend silly money on wax, iv got the cheapest stuff as it works. And i dont get into every area of the car, just keep it as clean as possible. And theres baked on brake dust on the front of my wheels from trackdays. I try to keep the paint as best as possible in as little time as possible. But trust me, i use my cars
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/track4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/sr50james/podrtoc09021.jpg
In all honesty, I just don't get this detailing thing. Fair play if you enjoy it but I'd rather be driving my car on a sunny day than chasing the polish round before it dries on hot metalwork.
We recently discussed this on barryboys.
It was brought about by this thread:
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=347865&page=1
And got so anal that this happened:
http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25802&start=100
I recommend reading all 7 pages as its utterly hilarious but best of all is the second post on page 6 :agree:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
VXRMarc got rinsed:laugh:
**** me though that is taking it to another world, obsessive in fact!! Unhealthy!
Can't imagine how many HOURS those guys took over cleaning it and as for painting readings.........gotta say - get a life!!!
dangerous dave
07-04-2013, 16:29
I just love that Barry boys always have there bullsh1t detectors out...
People believe what they want even when someone's giving you a reach around.
Sad i know:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::D:D:D
Slammed 66
13-04-2013, 20:16
:laugh:
It looks like what the mrs takes in the bathroom with her.
That's your Sunday planned out then Wallace :smokin:
car.crash
13-04-2013, 20:25
I'm about to order a DAS-6 PRO with MEGS 105 and 205 with some hexlogic pads.
I don't know what any of it means or how to use it but I've been advised its good :scratch:
Sad i know:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::D:D:D
Now poised on the lip on a steep slippery slope.
newbstar*
13-04-2013, 22:34
I'm about to order a DAS-6 PRO with MEGS 105 and 205 with some hexlogic pads.
I don't know what any of it means or how to use it but I've been advised its good :scratch:
Das 6 pro = good da.
Hexlogic pads= good also.
Look at merzerna compounds to go with the above.
There's a fair amount of people spending good money restoring GT Turbos who could benefit from using quality cleaning products to preserve and maintain their cars. I know some people laugh at the 2 buckets, mitts etc ( i was a sceptic at first ) but it does work.
It's like coming out the closet when admitting to using something other than fairy liquid and a sponge :ashamed: :D
Das 6 pro = good da.
Hexlogic pads= good also.
Look at merzerna compounds to go with the above.
Agree with this. The hexlogic are a good match with a DA machine, go careful with the 105 if you get it. A lot of these companies now do colour coded pads to go with colour coded polishes (the Auto finesse system being the newest) which are a good idea for the beginner.
Sure you have heard it before but, work up to the finish you require,do not go straight in with the cutting compounds.
car.crash
14-04-2013, 08:31
Ordered all the kit last night.
Das6 pro
Hex logic pads black, white, orange 5"
Meg 105, 205
Bilt hamber clay bar
Grit guards x2
Mitts
New pressure washer k2 karcher
Snow foam
Drying towel
Microfibres
Is my list pretty much complete or do I need anything else?
I will be trying it out on the wife's c max. It's covered in scratches so hopefully I can improve it.
She's one of them girls that likes to key and destroy her own cars so there will be no end to the job.
The neighbour has a ep801 rotary should I need to go that little bit more.
Iron X and a tar remover as you don't really want to be using the clay to remove these. Remember to rinse car after IronX/tardis before claying or you will destroy your clay. Does the Bilt hammer clay use just water as a lube? May still be worth thinking about.
car.crash
14-04-2013, 08:53
Already got some tar stuff.
My clay uses water as a lube.
I thought so. Maybe just add a little shampoo to the water in your spray bottle then.
Matt Cole
14-04-2013, 09:41
Are there any one page guides I could look at? I've recently got his abarth and would like to keep the paint as best I can ( it's like a pear white). Halfords seem to have a good selection of stuff like the new Merr range and G3 stuff all not bad price but is it any good or shall I stick with auto gym stuff?
scratcher
14-04-2013, 14:18
Ordered all the kit last night.
Das6 pro
Hex logic pads black, white, orange 5"
Meg 105, 205
Bilt hamber clay bar
Grit guards x2
Mitts
New pressure washer k2 karcher
Snow foam
Drying towel
Microfibres
Is my list pretty much complete or do I need anything else?
I will be trying it out on the wife's c max. It's covered in scratches so hopefully I can improve it.
She's one of them girls that likes to key and destroy her own cars so there will be no end to the job.
The neighbour has a ep801 rotary should I need to go that little bit more.
I'm not sure if you're serious, haha!
Meg's 105 & 205 are great polishes and work so well with the Hexlogic pads. Ford paint tends to be soft-medium but just remember to start with the least aggressive and only work up as you need to :)
When are you looking at doing it? I can bring a fallout remover to Ace for you to try out.
car.crash
14-04-2013, 14:22
I may have a go next Sunday if I get a chance.
Ordered it all last night so should be here for the weekend.
I will give you a shout when I'm about to do it.
I payed a guy from here to do my leon and he did a great job but I fancy having it done more often so thought I would treat myself to the gear.
dangerous dave
14-04-2013, 14:32
I may have a go next Sunday if I get a chance.
Ordered it all last night so should be here for the weekend.
I will give you a shout when I'm about to do it.
I payed a guy from here to do my leon and he did a great job but I fancy having it done more often so thought I would treat myself to the gear.
More often? You can't do it monthly or you'll end up with no paint.. I think a few people are doing more harm than good to there cars, prevention and protection beat correction..
newbstar*
14-04-2013, 16:35
Are there any one page guides I could look at? I've recently got his abarth and would like to keep the paint as best I can ( it's like a pear white). Halfords seem to have a good selection of stuff like the new Merr range and G3 stuff all not bad price but is it any good or shall I stick with auto gym stuff?
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