No ignition and won't start

[Nottswoody]

So I was driving home and my temp an oil gauge went crazy then as I was driving I turned the ignition of and there was no lights so I drove home turned off the car and then nothing no lights on the ignition and the starter won't turn it's as if its dead.. It's not the battery as its new.. Would you say it's the alternator? Why won't the starter even try? Strange :scratch:

[Romil Davda]

I'd first check that your battery is holding power, volt meter required.

If yes, then has got to be wiring issue. Check the wiring going to the starter (from battery). Have a looky around in case something has come loose in the engine bay.

If no, then the alternator. Can check this using volt meter again.

Also check fuses, just in case something has overloaded. In these conditions, people tend to have everything on, radio, heater on full, rear demister and lights!

FYI:
Battery should hold 12V and go upto around 14V (not more) when driving.

[SCHWARTZ]

Sounds like a loose earth or something like that maybe to the starter or block etc... But if not an earth some kind of wiring fault.

[Nottswoody]

In the last minutes of running on my drive the battery light flickerd iv checked quickly and everything seems tight but its bloody snowing :) that's what I love about these 5s it carried on got me home then gave up so atleast I'm not stuck out there today cheers guys..

[Nottswoody]

What and were are the fuses? The parking light is on but the batterie light isn't also the oil pressure gauge isn't rising when I turn the ignition?? Strange!!

[Nottswoody]

Also the fan won't bridge? Main lights are on radio etc

[Slammed 66]

I know this sounds stupid but... Is your fanbelt still on? When I threw a belt once the temp gauge just shot up because the water pump wasn't turning.

[Nottswoody]

At this point iv checked most things and my fingers are falling off and I look like frosty the snowman :) yep belts still on. My dads bringing the booster up and charger.. Iv found the fuse to the fogs is soaked and green so thats not good.. Is a strange one I'm only panicked as iv got bloody work at 5am and I ain't walking in this :sad2:

[Slammed 66]

Best of luck with it woody :agree:

[chris]

your a real man useing one of these everyday lol put hand on main lead and follow all the way to starter so you can feel if its shorted against something do the same on earth lead check it aint broke

[Robbo]

your a real man useing one of these everyday lol put hand on main lead and follow all the way to starter so you can feel if its shorted against something do the same on earth lead check it aint broke
:agree:

[Tony Walker]

Stick a jump lead from your negative terminal and to the block, see if this cures it. if so then its a bad earth to the block, the alternator also has to be earthed, try the other lead from the negative terminal to the alternator body by the top brackets easiest.

[Brigsy]

Sounds like the alternator or wiring to it has gone tits up and battery is flat, check the voltage when its running

[Os8472]

Check your main earth, jack the car up drivers side, take front wheel off and shine your torch at the back of the starter, there are two big wires coming off the back, check there both in good condition and tight

[Nottswoody]

Stick a jump lead from your negative terminal and to the block, see if this cures it. if so then its a bad earth to the block, the alternator also has to be earthed, try the other lead from the negative terminal to the alternator body by the top brackets easiest.

Did this and it clicked the starter that is.. What's next? Had enough tonight I'm freezing.. Thanks guys :)

[Tony Walker]

batterys probably dead too. sounds ;like bad earth has stopped the alty charging maybe? charge battery then retry with the leads on the block

[R5MJH]

sounds alternator id change battery or recharge old then check voltage with a meter a good alternator will produce about 14 volts if its not then the alternator is shot, also another trick i learned in garage game is get the car started with good battery remove earth on battery while running as long as alarm is ok to do this if car stays running alternator will be ok if it cuts out its 100% something to do with alternator or wiring follow this to the T and you wil get your answer paul

[Nottswoody]

When I say clicked it blew the metal part off the jump lead a big blue spark.. Thanks guys will try more tomorrow.. Still got scaffolding all round the house so I can't get in the garage so it means getting out in the snow again.. Why didn't it doit yesterday :mad: thanks guys

[Tony Walker]

Sounds like your positive cables melted through somewhere then. battery negative to the block shouldnt create any kind of spark lol.

[Dave Reed]

It'll be worth checking the connector of death, it lives under the expansion bottle, behind the n/s headlight black in colour..

[chris]

Thats a dead short woody did you do as i said and run your hand down cables you will feel where/if its rubbed and touching check alt wireing

[Nottswoody]

Will do tomorrow guys iv just got warm :) thanks for all the advise bloody snow getting in my way I really wanted to get some sledging in tonight aswell :cry:

[old skool turbo power]

In the last minutes of running on my drive the battery light flickerd iv checked quickly and everything seems tight but its bloody snowing :) that's what I love about these 5s it carried on got me home then gave up so atleast I'm not stuck out there today cheers guys..


if the warning light is flicking then check both the negavite and postive conections on the alternator....take the conections off and check they have not split in anyway in the cold weather it can screw up the joints on the conections and i know on the alternator there pretty tight as well.haynes explains it pretty well on the ingition system pretty well and its simple.that can rule out any problems that you might have.....
OR it can just be a renault thing and all will work tomorrow:laugh:

[newbstar*]

Get AA membership! At least they will be able to volt drop test things and check for amp draw.;)
Also you cannot check a wire just by looking at it and seeing if its tight:wasntme:

[Nottswoody]

Get AA membership! At least they will be able to volt drop test things and check for amp draw.;)
Also you cannot check a wire just by looking at it and seeing if its tight:wasntme:

REALLY? :cartman: wish id thought of that :disagree: :p

[newbstar*]

It's a way of getting someone with the tools and knowledge cheap! Just an idea being a tech/ aa man myself? Wait sorry melt a few wires more by putting jump leads on it lol

[Nottswoody]

Sounds like a loose earth or something like that maybe to the starter or block etc... But if not an earth some kind of wiring fault.

And the winner is... Correct snapped earth thanks guys.. Word to the wise renew your earths it's not worth getting caught out in the snow.. Doh!!

[newbstar*]

Which one? Glad you found the fault:)

[Nottswoody]

Which one? Glad you found the fault:)

Firstly sorry for the sarcasm it's just I was freezing tired and coverd in oil. It was the one from the bulkhead on the drivers side to the engine.. I got 5mins in the daylight today and found it.. I hate these 5s at times but I love it more when it works.. Easy fix again :)

[Tony Walker]

:agree: