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First post!
hi, im after some help, i want an r5 gt but i need to know a few things first, i currently have a td04 starlet gt which soon il be selling to get a r5, however first id like to ask what i could do to a c1j for £3k and what problems do i have to look out for? plus what is insurance like on them as i 19 and on my starlet its quite cheap, so im wondering if the groups would be similar?
thankyoooou x
Romil Davda
07-11-2012, 13:53
Welcome...
For 3K, you can do a lot. All depends what you want the car for, track, road use, drag strip? and also what power you are looking for? 180bhp, 200bhp, 250bhp+ :eek:?
As for what to look out for, check out the tech section on here, it has all the little and big things to look out for ;)
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=17
As for insurance, you can get classic car policy (I think if older than 15years)... The R5 is only a 1.4, group 14 if i'm right?
Good luck with getting an R5, there are a couple for sale on the club here.
P.S. what you looking to get for the Starlet?
dangerous dave
07-11-2012, 16:07
i think someone said your ages can be a problem with some classic policys, shop around first..
building a bad a55 gtt costs 5 times the price as buying one, if you know what your looking for.. watch out for bullsh1t, many 5's have it fitted:crap:
this is the best place to start looking for a gtt, sling up anything your going to look at and watch the members rip it to sh1t.. :agree:
i think someone said your ages can be a problem with some classic policys, shop around first..
building a bad a55 gtt costs 5 times the price as buying one, if you know what your looking for.. watch out for bullsh1t, many 5's have it fitted:crap:
this is the best place to start looking for a gtt, sling up anything your going to look at and watch the members rip it to sh1t.. :agree:
:agree:Dave perfectly said couldn't have put it any better
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Just got a r5 gtt and I'm and also 19 got 2 years ncb and cheapest I got my insurance for is £2900
Nottswoody
07-11-2012, 16:24
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Just got a r5 gtt and I'm and also 19 got 2 years ncb and cheapest I got my insurance for is £2900
:eek: wow now that's love for a 5..
Welcome...
As for what to look out for, check out the tech section on here, it has all the little and big things to look out for ;)
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=17
Is she able to see that link, not being an RTOC member?
Katie, the problems and potential outcomes for £3k are myriad. You need to join up so you can hunt around the site for the advice you're looking for.
As for insurance, the only people that can give you the answers you need are your insurers, although there are lots of insurance threads on RTOC discussing how best to get the cheapest and most appropriate deal.
Mudslinger
07-11-2012, 17:14
First post!
hi, im after some help, i want an r5 gt but i need to know a few things first, i currently have a td04 starlet gt which soon il be selling to get a r5, however first id like to ask what i could do to a c1j for £3k and what problems do i have to look out for? plus what is insurance like on them as i 19 and on my starlet its quite cheap, so im wondering if the groups would be similar?
thankyoooou x
would it not be better to spend the 3k on the starlet ? its a bit more modern has already got efi and from what i hear there is plenty of power potential with the right bits and with 3k to chuck at it you should be able to get more power
As i understand it, shes assuming 3k from selling the Starlet. If i'm wrong correct me.
Starlets are very nice and as already said already EFI. Though 5's are a love affair.
Best imho is to get a solid base with a clean motor on. Not a super mint-OE one cause obviously you're gonna invest some money on it so spemnidn thousands to buy an OE so you rip it apart and make it hardcore racing is not a good idea.
Just watch for previous crashes, rust and decent engine. Rest you're gonna fix yourself :smokin:
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hi guys, ive had a couple of starlets now, and mine currently is 240bhp, external wastegate, td04 etc etc and is really clean, just fancy a change and love the look of some r5's, plus my mate had a clean white ph2 that was nice, id spend £1500 on a standard gt then £3k on top, ideally id like the same power as my gt at the momment but obviously being old school lol :D
thnx :)
SCHWARTZ
08-11-2012, 12:37
Get a gtt then spend your 3k on fitting a turbo'd f7p with a gt28 and you should see 300bhp:D
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=8875&highlight=Starlet
You could have best of both and do what I did.
My brother had a few starlets/glanzas,and I always thought the 5 was better in the twisties,and looked better
Get a gtt then spend your 3k on fitting a turbo'd f7p with a gt28 and you should see 300bhp:D
:laugh:Like you did:laugh: how is the car doing Gary:D
SCHWARTZ
08-11-2012, 15:01
:jerkoff:Did I say b18ft. It's going well:rob:
:jerkoff:Did I say b18ft. It's going well:rob:
:laugh::cooter: i was being sarcastic, i don't mean it:D
SCHWARTZ
08-11-2012, 17:17
I see a wise guy:cooter:
Keep the gt turbo and get the engine forged! Few engine mods and you will be seeing bout 350 bhp with cash left over! Unless you pick up a mint oe r5 and your good at mechanics spraying and welding
The new Bill J
08-11-2012, 19:02
I'd say that a gtt for £1.5k could well need a lot of money throwing at it before you start thinking about the engine. They're over 20 years old now, rusty, and worn out, as most have had a hard life.
Just something to consider.....
Penfold aka The Dealer
08-11-2012, 19:05
Keep the gt turbo and get the engine forged! Few engine mods and you will be seeing bout 350 bhp with cash left over! Unless you pick up a mint oe r5 and your good at mechanics spraying and welding
350bhp....... Really, very few c1j's out there with a genuine 350bhp...
350bhp....... Really, very few c1j's out there with a genuine 350bhp...
Sorry I did mean keep the starlet gt turbo
I'd say that a gtt for £1.5k could well need a lot of money throwing at it before you start thinking about the engine. They're over 20 years old now, rusty, and worn out, as most have had a hard life.
Just something to consider.....
You might as well added steer clear altogether. :laugh:
You've got to totally love these cars to buy one, they aren't the kinda car you can just buy new parts for when it breaks, even the mint looking ones need fair few £'s on top. Carpet, trim etc hide all sorts of body work problems.
Then, if some one happens to bump into you after you got it how you want, the trouble starts all over again for finding parts or even worse, another decent shell!
As Billy said, "just something to consider" :laugh:
Keep the gt turbo and get the engine forged! Few engine mods and you will be seeing bout 350 bhp with cash left over! Unless you pick up a mint oe r5 and your good at mechanics spraying and welding
What few mods mate would make a c1j make 350 bhp I would love to know as I'm looking at more mods now to try and make just about 300 with the c1j :scratch:
I think he ment keep the starlett gt turbo and forge the engine on that
I think he ment keep the starlett gt turbo and forge the engine on that
Ah ok cool cheers mate :ashamed:
I think thats wat he ment unless he knows something we dont lol so are you going for the 3oo bhp mark yourself
I think thats wat he ment unless he knows something we dont lol so are you going for the 3oo bhp mark yourself
That's the plan mate but know company's out there are willing to modify my turbo :cry: hopefully I'll sort something now the winter is here :)
5alldaway
09-11-2012, 03:43
i would say stick with the starlet, i went in one years ago and i felt that if the japs made a gtt it would be this
r5 gtt looks better tho
SCHWARTZ
09-11-2012, 07:58
I nearly got a starlet but went for the gtt instead, performance wise sometimes I wish i had gone for the starlet now,just don't know if I could stand seeing it out the window every day:laugh:
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i could go forged and td05 18g but itll cost me another £2k to get 330-340bhp, id like a 250bhp external gated 8k rpm c1j cruisin on 13's
R11102
:laugh: that jokes getting old now but still funny :D
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
i could go forged and td05 18g but itll cost me another £2k to get 330-340bhp, id like a 250bhp external gated 8k rpm c1j cruisin on 13's
Pretty much what I'm close to my little GTT at the mo. :wasntme: apart from the 8K rpm.
dangerous dave
09-11-2012, 16:28
Pretty much what I'm close to my little GTT at the mo. :wasntme: apart from the 8K rpm.
i heard you were close to 150:dearme::p
Pretty much what I'm close to my little GTT at the mo. :wasntme: apart from the 8K rpm.
and i bet its cost you a load more than 3k
and i bet its cost you a load more than 3k
Yeah a lot more over the years as it's been a slow process of building then breaking things.
but the basics of my engine at the mo is
EFI 2K
Turbo £500-£1K
intercooler and pipe run £150
Cam £250-£300
paddle clutch with using valeo cover and bearing £250
So not too far away from 3k. it can be done on just a carb but I got fed up of my carb being crap every time temps dropped below 10degrees with my set up and other stuff. 200-250bhp can be done on not a lot of cash. But the power and realiblity comes with a good tune and set up over time.
i heard you were close to 150:dearme::p
Don't believe the hype Dave you know what Pub talk Marc's like. Anyway three up and spare gearbox it could never happen.
turbo ted
09-11-2012, 19:18
i heard you were close to 150:dearme::p150mph:burnrubber:
car.crash
09-11-2012, 19:24
It wasn't far off 150 you spastic haaaaawk.
Dave Reed
09-11-2012, 19:58
Ya just lucky u left before me, or I woulda had to show u diesel power ;) lol
Dave Reed
09-11-2012, 20:06
Back in topic though... If your really set on getting a 5 then try and find one that's done, it'll cost you a lot less.. These cars never really sell for that much no matter how much you spend...
turbo ted
09-11-2012, 21:58
[quote=car.crash;299753]It wasn't far off 150 you spastic haaaaawk.yee where reading mph by gps or sat nav which is not accurate and always under reads,i was doing 155mph when i pulled away:devil:
jesus in the seat of a 5
09-11-2012, 22:00
[quote=car.crash;299753]It wasn't far off 150 you spastic haaaaawk.yee where reading mph by gps or sat nav which is not accurate and always under reads,i was doing 155mph when i pulled away:devil:
just outside asda....:cooter:
I'd say that a gtt for £1.5k could well need a lot of money throwing at it before you start thinking about the engine. They're over 20 years old now, rusty, and worn out, as most have had a hard life.
Just something to consider.....
fully agree,i have owned 5's since 98 an know everywhere to a degree where rust can hide,thats why for the past 2 months i have been on my back scrapping away at underseal to prep an paint it to keep it back,forget engine mods and do body mods first...
fully agree,i have owned 5's since 98 an know everywhere to a degree where rust can hide,thats why for the past 2 months i have been on my back scrapping away at underseal to prep an paint it to keep it back,forget engine mods and do body mods first...
Good Advice a must !!!!!!:agree:
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where are the areas rust kicks in please? and what turbo/cam etc is needed for 240-250bhp? will the bottom end and head/carb be ok for that power? also, does anyone on here make any bespoke parts for the c1j? like aftermarket manifolds and exhausts etc
Penfold aka The Dealer
11-11-2012, 02:16
Katie for that kind of advise you will need to join the club as a full paying member.....
And yes we have contacts/members who can help you achieve that power output.....
Big Steve - Raider
11-11-2012, 08:52
Katie for that kind of advise you will need to join the club as a full paying member.....
And yes we have contacts/members who can help you achieve that power output.....
:agree:
Romil Davda
12-11-2012, 13:06
:agree:
that will leave you with £2975 to spend on tuning then!!!
How much do you want for the Starlet?
Katie for that kind of advise you will need to join the club as a full paying member.....
And yes we have contacts/members who can help you achieve that power output.....
Hurray, finally. :agree:
a couple of starlets now, and mine currently is 240bhp, external wastegate, td04 ....clean white ph2 that was nice, id spend £1500 on a standard gt then £3k on top, ideally id like the same power as my gt
i could go forged and td05 18g but itll cost me another £2k to get 330-340bhp, id like a 250bhp external gated 8k rpm c1j cruisin on 13'sYou're a 19 year old girl? :scratch: Most blokes would have no idea what you just said.
Buyers Guide: http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=22002
Ian Test
20-11-2012, 20:22
First post!
No, registered users can't view the buyers guide. For no reason I can think of, I thought I fixed it so they could.
Edit test.
Tony Walker
20-11-2012, 20:31
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id like a 250bhp external gated 8k rpm c1j cruisin on 13's
sounds like the perfect GTT :agree:
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