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You know what it's like when you have time to think about projects, cars, engine combos :ashamed:
I quite fancy an estate, so, a Laguna 2 estate with a Megane 225 engine dropped in, coilovers, with 225 wheels :D
I'm sure we all have random project ideas, i think it could possibly happen. I don't see why it wouldn't work :wasntme:
I'd always fancied a 21 turbo quadra with an F4Rturbo megane engine it tweaked upto 300ish to show the cosworth boys how its done :)
I'd like to fit a F7P and 4WD to my 9 but I don't have the time or money to do it.
Clio 197 with 225 engine and lsd box, remap and exhaust 280bhp, handling and speed:cool:
Clio 197 with 225 engine and lsd box, remap and exhaust 280bhp, handling and speed:cool:
Ktec already did that, although I think they over complicated it abit
The new Bill J
14-10-2012, 17:50
Clio 197 with 225 engine and lsd box, remap and exhaust 280bhp, handling and speed:cool:
:agree:
A 225 lump with the 6 speed box I imagine should go straight in a Laguna engine bay, IMO something different
R4 with R5 alpine turbo running gear.. could be fun.. R5 with megane 225 engine... R19 with 225 engine etc.. etc... if i just had that gold egg laying hen.. :confused::cry::ashamed:
R4 van with Turboted's engine or a R7 with mk1 R5 turbo set up. :)
I'd always fancied a 21 turbo quadra with an F4Rturbo megane engine it tweaked upto 300ish to show the cosworth boys how its done :)
I'd like to fit a F7P and 4WD to my 9 but I don't have the time or money to do it.
Why not just tune the j7r to 300, technology seems to have come on since the Europacup's, but keep it 2wd so not to suffer the transmission loss ;)
I'd considered an estaffette with 8 alpine running gear :D
R8 with an F7R on throttle bodies bbbrrraaappp :)
The new Bill J
14-10-2012, 18:22
R8 with an F7R on throttle bodies bbbrrraaappp :)
Why would you want to put an F7r in an Audi? :scratch:
;)
You lot have to much time and money:laugh:
Why would you want to put an F7r in an Audi? :scratch:
;)
Renault 8 you tart lol
R5 with an Audi lump and 4wd aim for around 350hp! Yum yum!
Or a twin engined R5 Drag beast with f7r's upfront and behind, a nice 500hp from each should do it:smokin:
Honastly if I ever came into some wonga my mrs would lose me to the garage:laugh:
Tony Walker
14-10-2012, 19:49
lagunas allready have the 2.0 turbo, altho i think the turbos different?
theres also the 3.0 v6 out of the clio in the laguna :D
Tony Walker
14-10-2012, 19:50
the v6 lagunas also are really cheap as the cambelts around a grand to change.
I still want an Audi bi-turbo in a gta ...
The Clioguna's had it's belt done :cool:
a clio 82 hp dci engine in a R5 would be fun to.. with a lil chip..
Penfold aka The Dealer
14-10-2012, 19:59
a clio 82 hp dci engine in a R5 would be fun to.. with a lil chip..
Go for the 106hp with the 6 speed gearbox... Stupid MPG and abif of poke.. with a decent chip can get 120bhp & 300 NM torque...
money no object i'm surprised no one's mentioned a clio v6, swap the passenger seat for a fuel cell and a pair of scoff's motors dropped in, hmmmm.
rs250nut
14-10-2012, 21:04
Wide arch phase 2 gtt with 360 Modena motor shoe horned in the back.!!!!!!!!!
lagunas allready have the 2.0 turbo, altho i think the turbos different?
theres also the 3.0 v6 out of the clio in the laguna :D
Are the Laguna 2s an F4R then? IIRC the older Lagunas had the Volvo turbo lumps in.
So a cheeky FMIC and remap then :D
Would love a Renault 4 van with a Gordini lump in
Tony Walker
14-10-2012, 22:36
it is an f4r in the laguna, it is less powerfull than the megane tho. not sure on specs much. im sure a quick google will tell all.
mk1 scenic with a turbo'd 172 lump in it - easily doo able.
mk1 r5 with a 1.5 dci lump in it
r12/dacia with a gt turbo lump in it.
kangoo van with a gt turbo lump in it.
kangoo trekka with gt turbo lump in.
estafette with gt turbo lump in.
all ideas ive had over the years.
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
14-10-2012, 22:54
The Estafette/Allouette is one I considered, that's why I posted a thread about possibly bring a classic vehicle from France a while back, but wanted to use an F7R.
Watch to the end:laugh:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmF-dBZTneg
That's with the renault 12 engine.:smokin:
I've just googled Estafette...... LIKE :cool:
I've done a C1J lump in an R19 16v Chamade :ashamed::D
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
14-10-2012, 22:57
Could always take my R19 16v exclusive off me and 225 it?
Matt Cole
14-10-2012, 23:01
The laguna has the same f4r lump as the Megane but with a 10t instead of a 14t turbo. The early laguna had the **** pk gear box.
I'm wiring someones conversion at the moment, a mitsubishi colt with 4x4 evo running gear and motor, big HX35 turbo and the usual bits. It seems the colts floor pan is nigh on the same, the rear diff cradle, etc, welds right in. Bay is the same hence engine and gearbox drop right in :)
Clio V6 turbo would be a nice conversion, and pretty pokey too I'd imagine :) Renault should've done that from the off.
or a clio v6.. with a engine in the front to :D
BILLY-R5GTT
15-10-2012, 16:45
A cossie powered R5 GTT, i've herd it's already been done and the car is lying in a yard burnt out after setting on fire.
Has anyone seen any others? Any pic's out there?
BILLY-R5GTT
15-10-2012, 16:47
Could always take my R19 16v exclusive off me and 225 it?
I'd like to do that to my 19 16v cab once my 5 is finished, if I can't do it i'll just chuck a F4R in it instead :)
21 Quadra gear into GTA :coffee:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-21-Turbo-Quadra-Gearbox-4wd-Transaxle-VW-T25-Off-Road-Kit-Car-/170925140669?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27cbeeaabd
Isn't there a YouTube clip of a supercharged Clio V6 with a sequential Sadev gearbox? :cool:
I'm wiring someones conversion at the moment, a mitsubishi colt with 4x4 evo running gear and motor, big HX35 turbo and the usual bits. It seems the colts floor pan is nigh on the same, the rear diff cradle, etc, welds right in. Bay is the same hence engine and gearbox drop right in :)
This sounds familiar, I'm sure I read a magazine with a grey colt with the same conversion done, roll age, flared arches (I think) could be wrong
TDi lump with a remap in a 5 shell? Mart and I did toy with this conversion, I've seen it done in a mk2 Golf at the Ring :)
Tony Walker
15-10-2012, 19:34
im sure someone had an ep82??? starlet conversion 5?? looked like it could be a nice modern upgrade, turbo at the front looked abit of a pain tho?
Dave Reed
15-10-2012, 19:41
I had a random idea.............. So i put it into practice :)
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu326/daver5turbo/94F04255-F7A0-41B6-A2E3-B5B90CBC6385-14089-000003C2132E1E0C.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu326/daver5turbo/65D930BD-34C3-4A18-9488-3827370B0253-14089-000003C20479B31F.jpg
Tony Walker
15-10-2012, 19:45
:D great work, wish i had the drive/funds to do something along those lines. Since driving a lotus Seight ithink that would probably be the project id be taking on.
Dave damn you!! :eek: :cool: :D
Tony Walker
15-10-2012, 20:05
Its almost a turbo heater matrix :wasntme:
Dave Reed
15-10-2012, 20:12
:D Now you know why the 5 has to go :( but :) lol..
Hmmm yeah the turbo should serve fine as a demister :laugh:
i presumed you were on with something else when you started breaking your car, but didnt expect this. nice project :cool:
:eek: That looks a little on the special side!!:smokin:
That looks a bit special :smokin:
Will the engine need dropping just to change the plugs???:eek:
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
15-10-2012, 21:44
Nice work dave, I recognise the Vauxhall in the background, road legal no?
Sam Fish
15-10-2012, 21:49
I REALLY want a Mk1 espace. It would be fun to do an 80's colour-blend paint job on it, sort the suspension/brakes and a decent engine!
Big Steve - Raider
15-10-2012, 22:20
Christ Dave?! :eek:
That looks a monster?! Can't believe how far the engine is in the body?! I'm guessing from the tubular chassis that their's not much Fiesta lurking around anymore!
Excellent job! :niceone:
Dave Reed
15-10-2012, 23:03
That looks a bit special :smokin:
Will the engine need dropping just to change the plugs???:eek:
Na there's a panel that comes out on a couple of clips ;);)
Dave Reed
15-10-2012, 23:05
Thanks for the kind words guy's..
Picking it up next week. Then we'll be on with wiring, plumping etc. Should be out early next year (funds permitting of course lol)
Dave Reed
15-10-2012, 23:07
Nice work dave, I recognise the Vauxhall in the background, road legal no?
Yeah it's going to be road legal & yes the Vauxhall is also road legal :D
Big Steve - Raider
15-10-2012, 23:26
Yeah it's going to be road legal & yes the Vauxhall is also road legal :D
Red Victor! ;)
Looks amazing Dave :agree:
markey b
16-10-2012, 08:50
i've got a complete K9K with all ecu's and UCH, 2 keys, loom, gearbox, turbo etc etc
ideal to put into a GTT :laugh:
DaveL485
16-10-2012, 18:30
I'd always fancied a 21 turbo quadra with an F4Rturbo megane engine it tweaked upto 300ish to show the cosworth boys how its done :)
You could get that out of the J7R for less wonga.
I'd like to fit a F7P and 4WD to my 9 but I don't have the time or money to do it.
I want to F4R my 9 Turbo but i'm dilemma-ing over keeping the original lump as its so rare.
A cossie powered R5 GTT, i've herd it's already been done and the car is lying in a yard burnt out after setting on fire.
The front engined 4x4 one went up in flames and was robbed of its drivetrain and dumped in a scrappy. The Mid Engined RWD one belongs to a member.
21 Quadra gear into GTA
I put a R21T J7R 752 into the back of a GTA.... far better lump than that beastly V6 lump of pig iron [opens can of worms] :cooter:
I have a 250bhp, 21 Turbo powered Fuego....that was a great idea. Mental, made of tinfoil, but great.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DaveL485/8E5F45D5-AA28-489F-AABD-7615CD2E32C5-1277-00000121983D0925.jpg
A few years ago I thought it'd be ace to take the NA 12 valve head from the R21TXi and whack it on the Turbo block. I'm still building it now :laugh:
Saying that though when it's done it should be 'potent' in my Quadra.
One thing I need to do before my spannering years are through is build something twin engined, with turbos. I fancy a couple of J7R lumps in a R21, tbh, with a nice spaceframe at the back.
i've got a complete K9K with all ecu's and UCH, 2 keys, loom, gearbox, turbo etc etc
ideal to put into a GTT :laugh:
what do you need really to run one of these? - ive got a kangoo 1.5dci on my drive that the shell is basically ****ed. - ive had it running and the bottom end is alittle slappy. ecu's, loom and engine?
I remember seeing the Fuego at the Jamsport RR day years ago, a few people having to sit on the wings to hold it on the rollers :smokin:
BILLY-R5GTT
17-10-2012, 11:49
Has anyone got a few pic's of the front engined 4x4 cossie 5 in it's hey day?
Has anyone got a few pic's of the front engined 4x4 cossie 5 in it's hey day?
http://passionford.com/forum/pictures-video-and-photoshop-forum/249427-r5-gtts.html
post number 28 ;)
Twin engined Hyabusa Turbo lumps in a 5 shell
Twin engined Hyabusa Turbo lumps in a 5 shell
There was a bloke in ireland putting a single Hyabusa engine in his 5 and talk of turboing it i remember seeing some pic's wonder what happened to that?
5alldaway
17-10-2012, 17:10
never had the skills but if i did it would have to be a honda b16 engine in a gtt
markey b
17-10-2012, 17:40
what do you need really to run one of these? - ive got a kangoo 1.5dci on my drive that the shell is basically ****ed. - ive had it running and the bottom end is alittle slappy. ecu's, loom and engine?
i'm not sure i think the clios are some kinda canbus so you need the engine ecu, with the UCH fusebox, transponder and keys, engine loom and injectors are coded in too i believe
i'm not sure i think the clios are some kinda canbus so you need the engine ecu, with the UCH fusebox, transponder and keys, engine loom and injectors are coded in too i believe
injectors are definately coded as we sell the kit that can code them :)
Tony Walker
17-10-2012, 21:56
You can fit the injectors and they will run without coding. Coding is just for a more accurate injection pattern/amount.
BILLY-R5GTT
17-10-2012, 22:14
http://passionford.com/forum/pictures-video-and-photoshop-forum/249427-r5-gtts.html
post number 28 ;)
Cheers Sparkie :agree:
What running gear would you use for a 4x4 5? Full cosworth?
What about crossing a 5 GTT with a pulsar gti-r? Anyone done that? Theres not a massive difference in size.
Back in my classic mini days I wanted to put a C1J in the front, I do believe Markey Mark did a rear engined C1J'd mini
TNT ANDY
18-10-2012, 06:41
Back in my classic mini days I wanted to put a C1J in the front, I do believe Markey Mark did a rear engined C1J'd mini
Why did you not do that Ricardo? And yes Markey mark did that conversion, but I think he struggled to steer it when pushing it. No weight over the front + lots @ the back with loads of power = :burnrubber:
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
18-10-2012, 09:52
Smart coupe with a powertec v8.
2 litres and 40valves?:laugh:
I wish I had a go, I had a written off GT as a donor too
Penfold aka The Dealer
18-10-2012, 11:01
Back in my classic mini days I wanted to put a C1J in the front, I do believe Markey Mark did a rear engined C1J'd mini
I still fancy a classic mini.... Would mean selling the 5 tho.... Very tempted
BILLY-R5GTT
18-10-2012, 11:16
Has anyone seen the C1J powered 3 wheeler caravan? :laugh: think there is a video of it on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UCZF_UnG10
5alldaway
18-10-2012, 12:54
Cheers Sparkie :agree:
What running gear would you use for a 4x4 5? Full cosworth?
What about crossing a 5 GTT with a pulsar gti-r? Anyone done that? Theres not a massive difference in size.
think for that cosworth they used the sapphire 4x4 floor pan
now a pulsar gtt would be really nice, and i think it would need to be done in a similar way like the cosworth 5 was
BILLY-R5GTT
18-10-2012, 13:05
I don't think a Pulsar gti-r conversion would be that hard, the engine and box is no bigger than a F7R/P and it sits the right way too, a tunnel would have to be put in for the prop or just use the pulsar floor. I don't think it would be hard to mount the rear axel either.
I still fancy a classic mini.... Would mean selling the 5 tho.... Very tempted
Fibreglass flip front clubman style to give more room for a C1J ;)
Back in my classic mini days I wanted to put a C1J in the front, I do believe Markey Mark did a rear engined C1J'd mini
Ash who bought the rear engined mini from Mark put a C1J in the front of another mini. :) but the car died when the body shop went up in flames. :cry:
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
18-10-2012, 14:04
Fibreglass flip front clubman
Will be doing this soon, on the blue clubman in the workshop at the moment.
It's been upside down on a car spit since 1983.:eek:
turbo ted
18-10-2012, 15:01
Ash who bought the rear engined mini from Mark put a C1J in the front of another mini. :) but the car died when the body shop went up in flames. :cry:it was markey marks rear engine mini that went up in flames at the body shop, he still has the c1j front engine mini somewhere hidden away.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=221140693434&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=42694831790
Must be a total weapon! :devil:
Markey Mark (BD)
18-10-2012, 16:26
Why did you not do that Ricardo? And yes Markey mark did that conversion, but I think he struggled to steer it when pushing it. No weight over the front + lots @ the back with loads of power = :burnrubber:
I did do the C1J conversion in the back of the mini, wasn't the prettiest thing on the planet but it worked.
It felt like the front end was light and thats why we had issues with rear end twitching but it ended up being the rear wheels steering abit.
All we did was weld the steering racked to the subframe at the point where the steering column joins, we left the trackrods ends and steering rack standard. The slight movement it had in it caused the rear end to steer itself under hard accelerating. It was an interesting run up the strip! :laugh:
As we only built it for a laugh we sold it on almost straight after it was built, as mentioned was sold to a guy called Ash who spent a hell of alot of money on it to make it road legal but it died in a fire before just as it had been finished
I would do another but front engined instead, already got the ideas in my head on how to do it ;)
i love these sleepers my mate at the garage i go to his friend in another garage has got a horrid dull green oldie, looks box standard but has a honda civic type r under hood, sleeper ultimate only comes out to go to shows at the weekend, the matey built it himself it took some time as he brought a breaker and fitted it in that first, then transferred to another good shell, matey recons its fast, i bet it is too, ive seen the car at garage, id love a go in it:laugh::wasntme:
Mark, C1J in a mini is the way forward :D:cool:
We have a long wheelbase Nissan Cabstar at work, I'd love to drop a GTR lump in it :D
I'd be a terrible millionaire, too much time on my hands to make crazy project cars!
TNT ANDY
18-10-2012, 19:00
I did do the C1J conversion in the back of the mini, wasn't the prettiest thing on the planet but it worked.
It felt like the front end was light and thats why we had issues with rear end twitching but it ended up being the rear wheels steering abit.
All we did was weld the steering racked to the subframe at the point where the steering column joins, we left the trackrods ends and steering rack standard. The slight movement it had in it caused the rear end to steer itself under hard accelerating. It was an interesting run up the strip! :laugh:
As we only built it for a laugh we sold it on almost straight after it was built, as mentioned was sold to a guy called Ash who spent a hell of alot of money on it to make it road legal but it died in a fire before just as it had been finished
I would do another but front engined instead, already got the ideas in my head on how to do it ;)
Really?
That's good news - because I bought a 92 cooper and have a spare C1J hanging around, I'd kind of put the idea to the back of my mind because it didn't look possible with the extremely limited space in the front of my mini.
1.5 DCi 100 in a 5?
Just read this about the engine
"Renault has tweaked the 1.5-litre diesel engine to deliver an extra 20bhp, which takes the total to 100bhp at 4,000rpm, while torque output rises to an impressive 200Nm - the same as the Clio 182"
equates to 147 lbs/ft?
FMIC, tweak the fuel pressure, remap?
Uber MPG, torque, lightweight shell :ashamed:
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=12318
:coffee:
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=12318
:coffee:
2009! :ashamed: :D
1.5 DCi 100 in a 5?
Just read this about the engine
"Renault has tweaked the 1.5-litre diesel engine to deliver an extra 20bhp, which takes the total to 100bhp at 4,000rpm, while torque output rises to an impressive 200Nm - the same as the Clio 182"
equates to 147 lbs/ft?
FMIC, tweak the fuel pressure, remap?
Uber MPG, torque, lightweight shell :ashamed:
Lad I worked with in Renault had a 80hp clio...... went well..... then he made it look like a 172 with all the gear from a written off one.....
then he had it mapped
FECK it went well!!!!!!!
Mrs Moggy has a 80hp Scenic for the work run...... 70mpg! or 65 if she's late for work! :scratch: or 55mpg if I drive it :wasntme:
I love it! so much fun! keep thinking about getting a blown one off ebay and just having a 'play'
markey b
20-10-2012, 12:41
Lad I worked with in Renault had a 80hp clio...... went well..... then he made it look like a 172 with all the gear from a written off one.....
then he had it mapped
FECK it went well!!!!!!!
Mrs Moggy has a 80hp Scenic for the work run...... 70mpg! or 65 if she's late for work! :scratch: or 55mpg if I drive it :wasntme:
I love it! so much fun! keep thinking about getting a blown one off ebay and just having a 'play'
mines a dci 65, with 172 interior, 182 wheels, and a remap, not blistering but much better than the poop 65bhp it was born with. fmic next then its gonna head to the 'ring for some no smoke no poke love
So the DCi 100 could be half decent, in a lightweight shell
Tony Walker
20-10-2012, 19:20
my sister in laws still got her fiat coupe 20v turbo alongside her 370z gt, i really love the fiat 5 cylinder engine altho its a big bugger, combined with the turbo and LSD i think it would go very well in the back of a 5 :D
my sister in laws still got her fiat coupe 20v turbo alongside her 370z gt, i really love the fiat 5 cylinder engine altho its a big bugger, combined with the turbo and LSD i think it would go very well in the back of a 5 :D
i used to own a 20v turbo, was in the owners club too. - they all seem to go down the 2.4 stilo bottom end route.
however, i thought the 16v turbo is the same as lancia delta evo engine, hence more tuneable and lighter???
the 'LSD' is some weird 'Viscodrive' lump halfway along the one driveshaft from memory.
Tony Walker
20-10-2012, 21:10
Dont know alot about it to be honest Sparkie, but i'd only use the 5 cylinder for the amazing sound :agree:
Loved it everytime i drove it and the inside was the nicest interior of any car ive ever been in.
Slammed 66
20-10-2012, 21:40
Skill is what's going to stop me from making something awesome. Mainly I have none, but I do have some epic ideas locked away in the old grey matter.
First something not too outrageous but practical:
Mk1 espace powered by b18ft I'm quite seriously looking into this.
I'm converting my '72 vauxhall viva to 3.5 rover v8. Not the most out there thing again but it's period 70s tuning which I like.
I have a 78 Datsun 260z. I also have a 90 r32 GTR. You can see where this is going but I don't have the balls to attempt it
If I won the lottery then my daily would be an early 60s mk2 jag which would look stock outside save for some wider wires and a subtle drop. Interior would also look stock with all electronics hidden in glove box. Power plant would be an rb26dett and 700 horses should make it a fun daily.
Come on those 6 numbers :devil:
Ross
Dont know alot about it to be honest Sparkie, but i'd only use the 5 cylinder for the amazing sound :agree:
Loved it everytime i drove it and the inside was the nicest interior of any car ive ever been in.
yes, mine was nice black leather and the noise up the rev range was awesome!
just dont open the door when you've got the car jacked up.... chassis sagged and the door was a complete RS to shut again! :eek:
old skool turbo power
20-10-2012, 23:31
You know what it's like when you have time to think about projects, cars, engine combos :ashamed:
I quite fancy an estate, so, a Laguna 2 estate with a Megane 225 engine dropped in, coilovers, with 225 wheels :D
I'm sure we all have random project ideas, i think it could possibly happen. I don't see why it wouldn't work :wasntme:
:laugh:renault thinking way out of there box:cool::smokin:the classic.saying that it would be nice to see the engines back in f1:)................:coffee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4X4l56Q1w&feature=related
and i remember duncs r5 with the 1.8 turbo 20v engine in it from the cupras or vws mk4 that was quick
old skool turbo power
20-10-2012, 23:39
Isn't there a YouTube clip of a supercharged Clio V6 with a sequential Sadev gearbox? :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNvWtlESSC0 here mate ive seen this video before nice sound:cool:
2009! :ashamed: :D
I've always fancied this conversion but clio dci's always seem to go for strong money and I'd want the full car so I could transplant everything... Does anyone know if they are canbus?
DaveL485
21-10-2012, 18:53
I remember seeing the Fuego at the Jamsport RR day years ago, a few people having to sit on the wings to hold it on the rollers :smokin:
Pity the retard in the drivers seat destroyed the gearbox blipping on and off the power.
It was five people sat/stood on it and it was spinning up after 310lb/ft, and throwing bits of the slicks all over the floor as it did so lol
I've always fancied this conversion but clio dci's always seem to go for strong money and I'd want the full car so I could transplant everything... Does anyone know if they are canbus?
kangoo dci's dont go for much :) they are canbus as far as i know.
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