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Junglist
09-10-2012, 21:56
Fingers crossed ill be changing my brake servo in the next couple of days.
Does anyone have any advise on changing it?
i have limited tools as my garage contents are in storage at the moment :crap:.
Can i get it from or above or will i need to go in through the wheel space?
when i remove it from the master cylinder is it nessersary to undo all the brake pipes? to save bleeding?
Cheers , any advise welcome :).
Dan
I was chatting to Colin 'the master' the other day. Sure he told me the best way to do the servo was from the wheel arch. Think he may have also mentioned undoing the engine mounts and jacking the engine up slightly for more access.
Out of interest did you manage to get a new servo or are you fitting a second hand ?.
I found it easier just to remove the inlet manifold.
I was told before i did it tho, that you can get it out through the wheelarch. Its very tight in there tho. :)
Recently done a servo swap on mine .
Straight forward once the inlet is was out the way I tried through the wheel arch was abit of a night mate an preferred to take the longer route rather than struggle.
Like I say really easy once you have access.
And incase you don't know it's bolted on through the footwell gain access by lifting the carpet ;-)
Good luck
Junglist
10-10-2012, 07:18
thanks guys ,
can i leave the brake lines in the master cylinder?
Junglist
10-10-2012, 07:20
I was chatting to Colin 'the master' the other day. Sure he told me the best way to do the servo was from the wheel arch. Think he may have also mentioned undoing the engine mounts and jacking the engine up slightly for more access.
Out of interest did you manage to get a new servo or are you fitting a second hand ?.
Im in the prosess of getting a new one but ive not had it in my hand yet. should be here today.
I did mine with everything in situe, to be fair it wasn't as bad as I was expecting, that said I have hands like a 5 year old:laugh: great for squeezing into tight places and make certain parts of my body look huge!! :smokin:
I changed the master cylinder at the same time so that probably opened up a bit more space.
I worked from the top/bottom and inside the drivers footwell.
Taking the drivers side shaft out might give you better access to drop it out below?
THE MASTER
10-10-2012, 10:58
the basics .. remove master cly.. remove the o/s driveshaft . undo the rear engine mount and jack the engine up at the back. the servo although a tight fit comes out the o/s wheel arch..;)
jesus in the seat of a 5
10-10-2012, 19:38
:laugh:.. i told you how to do this on the other thread...;), wheel arch is the way on a ramp...no doubt..:agree:
Out of interest, where did you get your servo from? Did it cost you an arm and a leg?? I need one but heard they are a right pain to get hold of:(
*ducks in advance* If you just had the steering wheel on the right side there would be no problem changing it.. :cooter: Sorry couldn't help it :D
Tony Walker
10-10-2012, 20:54
:agree::laugh: it is on the "right" side
no thats the wrong right :sad2: the other right.. :D:cool: The right side is on the left side.. :scratch:
Junglist
10-10-2012, 21:55
:laugh:.. i told you how to do this on the other thread...;), wheel arch is the way on a ramp...no doubt..:agree:
if i had a ramp ;)
Junglist
10-10-2012, 21:56
Out of interest, where did you get your servo from? Did it cost you an arm and a leg?? I need one but heard they are a right pain to get hold of:(
FML
Junglist
10-10-2012, 21:58
:laugh:.. i told you how to do this on the other thread...;), wheel arch is the way on a ramp...no doubt..:agree:
Jesus are you hording these Servo`s ? :laugh:
phase i 16 v turbo
11-10-2012, 08:30
Out of interest, where did you get your servo from? Did it cost you an arm and a leg?? I need one but heard they are a right pain to get hold of:(
Not hard to get hold of just well expensive
Not hard to get hold of just well expensive
I was wondering if there was a non genuine one available that was cheaper? Looks like there's no choice but to go for the genuine one for 400 odd quid:cry:
Junglist
11-10-2012, 18:26
I was wondering if there was a non genuine one available that was cheaper? Looks like there's no choice but to go for the genuine one for 400 odd quid:cry:
I wouldnt bother for that amount of money. you would be better off with a 2nd hand one, even if you have to cahnge it 10 times. unless your loaded of course.
Is there one from another car that might be a close fit?
What about a normal 5 , do they still make the non turbo type`s , will these fit?
Are all r5 servo`s the same.
The gt turbo servo has different part numbers but i bet a non gtt one would work fine, i still have the diesel servo on my van
Junglist
02-11-2012, 16:15
I did mine with everything in situe, to be fair it wasn't as bad as I was expecting, that said I have hands like a 5 year old:laugh: great for squeezing into tight places and make certain parts of my body look huge!! :smokin:
I changed the master cylinder at the same time so that probably opened up a bit more space.
I worked from the top/bottom and inside the drivers footwell.
Just had a go at takeing the servo out, removed master cyl yeah FML it is tight i dont think there is any chance i could get it out without removing the manifold or going through the arch
Junglist
02-11-2012, 16:32
is it going to be a pain it the hoop taking the inlet manifold / carb off ?.
Just weighing up my options weather it will be easier taking the inlet manifold off or enging mount and jack up method.
My knuckles are red raw lol
Junglist
03-11-2012, 00:00
i was trying to get the 5 on the road for monday, not gonna happen, so might as well keep it off the road for a month and get it into renault , they say its 3 hours labour :) , probs 200 squid an hour like :D game on
turbo ted
03-11-2012, 00:16
the basics .. remove master cly.. remove the o/s driveshaft . undo the rear engine mount and jack the engine up at the back. the servo although a tight fit comes out the o/s wheel arch..;)just do it this way as the master says :agree::agree::agree:
Junglist
03-11-2012, 16:08
that had to be the worst job ever.
Took it out straight down with shaft off , didnt need to undoo engine mount.
Just need to reattach master cylinder now
Junglist
04-11-2012, 15:56
master cylinder on, brakes bled, servo works and brakes are back to usaual , :)
need to get it MOT`d now ,
good times
Junglist
05-11-2012, 21:55
For any one who is interseted here is the part number for the Bosch aftermarket Brake Servo / Booster for the phase 2 , also a list of 5`s that the same Servo was used in.
I also have a list of all Bosch aftermarket parts but cant seem to upload it as its in a dodgey format, sure i could email it if needed.
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=788&pictureid=7440
phase i 16 v turbo
06-11-2012, 08:33
I am pleased it all worked out ok.
thanks
Mike
Just took a look on the bosch teccom and they dont recognise the number though :(
Junglist
07-11-2012, 20:23
If you put 0204125026 in Google.de .fr .es --- etc you will get companies still selling them.
http://www.daparto.de/Bremskraftverstaerker/Renault-R-5-122/2-1751-1486
http://www.recambiosiberica.com/tienda/producto.jsp;jsessionid=F4DB1A6C158C5F8F6A8ED21192 89E713?id_categoria=140&id_subcategoria=2024&id_producto=158411&id_grupo=9&pagina=2&inicio_aplicacion=1&familia=BOSCH&categoria=Bosch&subfamilia=BEN17&subcategoria=Servofreno&referencia=0204125026&producto=SERVOFRENO
Junglist
07-11-2012, 20:30
Just took a look on the bosch teccom and they dont recognise the number though :(
Its on Bosch diagnostic software, ESI (tronic).
Its not available from Bosch anymore :crap:
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