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Thought it was about time i added another project thread. i'll firstly bore you with details of how this came about. whilst doing my house up and having the 21 in bits i decided i needed a van again. i've had an extra which i converted to a b18ft. it was a great van but this time i figured i should get something bigger, and as always had to be a renault. the newer trafics look great as far as vans go but just not retro enough for me, so the hunt began. i spent a couple months looking and it seemed that the blue ones were alot rustier, and the diesels were, well gutless! so with that it had to be white, and the 1700 petrol version.
eventually i found one and as with most old stuff it needed some work. it was advertised with overheating problems amongst other niggles but thought it was worth a punt and headed to oxford with scoff to collect it.
had a quick look over the van and tbh it was alot better than expected but after a test drive realised it also had a slight slipping clutch but since it was tidy, bought it anyway. this is how it looked when i got it home
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i set about sorting some of the running problems. as there arent many of these vans on the road, more so the camper versions, there isnt alot of secondhand parts availible so i removed the rad to give it a good clean out as i figured that was the cause of it running hot, only to find it was almost completely blocked. gave it a good flushing out but appeared the rad had corroded internal so was replaced with a laguna one. now it runs cooler than it should as i suspect the previous owner had removed the thermostat. apart from the slipping clutch, the other niggles were copeable for what i wanted it for so have just let them be for now.
although the sign writing added to the retro look i was going to just remove the phone number but decided to remove all of it for a more subtle van
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after using the van as my daily and got most of the bulky housework out of the way i thought it was time to sell the van on before i got carried away as i usually do. it was advertised for sale on here as i felt there could have been members interested in it cheaper than other trafics and would be capible of changing the clutch when it finally gave up, although it hadn't worsened during my ownership.
i thought it would be best to tidy up the front bumper due to a good sized hole on the passenger side, which after poking about looked like this
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it seems its harder to find a replacement than i thought so i thought it crack on. since there wasn't much metal left i decided fibreglass was the best way to repair so it was buzzed back to bare metal and in went the resin
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i have got the bumper all fillered up with some textured paint over the top, but dont seem to have any pics. the plan is to do the same with the rest of the plastics.
as i ran out of time to sell the van before the tax ran out, and with little interest on here i thought i should also get the clutch replaced to help with the sale so bought a gtt clutch from a fellow member and out came the lump
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the engine appeared to have a few oil leaks so quite grotty
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despite the bellhousing having oil in it i can only assume that the clutch had seized on and when it freed off smeared the friction plate onto the flywheel. it could have been cleaned up but as i had the clutch it wasn't worth it.
so while it was all out i thought it was best to give it all a good clean up
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again, while it was all out i decided to splash some hammerite about but first i had to tackle the rust spots
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and chopped the rougher bits out and cleaned up prior to welding
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then set about gettin the welding done
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followed by some filler work
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and then some stone chip. i'd normally only stonechip the lower sections on cars but as its a van and looked a little rough i thought it best to do the lot
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now as i'd gone this far i thought it was wrong to hammerite it so thought i'd clean up the underside of the bonnet to get a decent coulour match
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and hammerite up the wheel brace while i was at it
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once the paint arrived i made a start, much better finish than hammerite
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as the engine was out i wanted to make the clutch pedal that much softer so fitted a 172 fork but as the cable/box is a different arrangement to the gtt i had to use a spacer, a bit overkill but easiest way was to use the original and add to it
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and of course, hammerited
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and fitted, much longer
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my attention then went back to the engine . . finally! i'd noticed a few problems, the sump had a few leaks, along with the rocker cover. the exhaust manifold had 2 large cracks in it and the exhaust blew on the join. it wanted the clutch and could do with some new plugs and leads too, basically gaskets and a good service.
i had took the van to scoff's when i first got it where it made a whopping 56hp with the slipping clutch!
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now as i sold my volvo setup from the 5 and have fitted a gtt lump back in there and then bought the setup back i have sold the upgrade bits to markey mark and as the engine needed a fair bits to sort it out it seemed a bit rude not to make use of the engine, so i eyed it up.
its not a direct fit, but not difficult so carried on. the first problem was the mounts as the engine is mounted longitudinally, and the volvo engine has the oil return at the back of the block it was in the way. so out came the drill, nice and snug
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and then in it went
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the next problem is the inlet manifold, luckily there an access hatch in the bulkhead so looks like the boost run will be going through the cab!
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its on hold while i await for some standard bits as i want some fuel economy but extra poke so it will be on standard setup but running 1bar so i'll update progress when i get to do a bit more
CLASSIC!!!!!!!
you need to put "haz's french bakery - rue de grease monkey - Paris'ish" on the side of it!!!!!
knew that manual I emailed you would come in handy! :wasntme:
This is building up to be an amazing project - love it! :agree::cool:
DUDE!!!! That is an AWSOME project! :coffee::coffee:
Definatly won't be gutless now;)
Good work so far mate!:agree:
Markey Mark (BD)
25-09-2012, 19:58
I have an inlet manifold with the throttle body on the opposite side sat in the garage doing nothin ;)
Great project mate, looks real retro! :agree:
Wow! Awesome, love these kind of retro builds!
What gearbox is it, is it a but strong? (probably not!)
andybond
25-09-2012, 21:16
Slam it into the weeds Haz!
thanks for the comments, i tried to keep it hush and get it to scoff rollers day but got let down with bits and couldnt resist putting some pics up.
moggy, i was after the manuals as wanted to see what running gear would swap over from other things like the espace, mainly the front struts in case i want to lower it, and the rear beam as it cant be done in the conventional way with blocks :( but i cant seem to work it out from the manuals as it just lists stuff for the vans.
i was going to ask you about that mark but guessed you were using it on the red one, now you know why i didn't bring it sunday. think i've sussed the pipe run but it would be easier. does it have the 2ltr tb on it and i'll leave this one on?
its a ne3 box from memory, not sure how strong it will be but presume it'll be ok as its designed for heavy loads. not sure what i'll do if it breaks but i'll deal with it then as i dont think the ratios will be great anyway.
This was cool with 56hp and a slipping clutch. I can't see it staying standard for long :)
Maybe you can replace it with a 21T box?
na the traffic has quiet a strange box
the shafts are...well easy way to describe it, is the shafts come out infront of the diff!:scared: rather than behind with most normal cars
plus the box is quite small, and UN boxes are well.... huge
it should be ok, i remember a campervan coming into the workshop with no oil in the box and it had been like that for years!!!! :wasntme:
its staying std ish, bout 175bhp lol. i want to keep it like that as sticking with the volvo ecu's, injectors and turbo so i can keep some economy. gotta be miles better than the carb tho. sold the bits to mark to stop me doing that.
i'd thought about the un1, along with fitting the j7r too as i think the diesel version shares the same block but its just a budget build so it can still have a sensible resale value when i'm done ;) i may have a buyer lined up once its done but at least i'll enjoy it if not.
rs250nut
25-09-2012, 22:18
Best project thread I have seen in years. Big turbo and external gate needed
Tony Walker
25-09-2012, 23:15
Brilliant, wish it could of made the rr day :)
Slammed 66
26-09-2012, 00:35
This gets my full approval :wasntme:
Ross
phase i 16 v turbo
26-09-2012, 09:01
Excellent effort:agree:
really great project and its nice to see something different. its funny how things always seem to snowball from just fitting a clutch to welding to all the work prepping the bay and now fitting a new engine it looks really good
thanks :D
yeah its got carried away. i've tried to resist since i bought it but as work has been slow its filled up some time and gets some spares out the garage. i'm trying not to go too ott with it so it doesnt turn into a massive project. wanting it back on the road asap and will tweak it as i go. looking forward to the first test drive :burnrubber:
Off the hook!! Awesome, love it!!
A Renault trafic getting the nocturnal treatment........:smokin:
I have to say Haz, I think it's coolest project I have seen in a long time.
You have to be possably the only person in the world who would attempt or indeed could be arsed with a project like this!:agree:
To echo everyone else, this is a hugely exciting project! I can't wait for the next episode
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Looks sweet haz! Nice frontera intercooler here for it;)
phil, i think you mean daft enough! thanks brigsy but wasn't sure what to do with the piperun, althought that was an option.
ive managed to get a bit more done after spending a some time weighing up the best way to do things. as its a budget build i decided to just work with what i had rather than making too much bespoke parts.
i figured i should start by bolting a few more bits on to see what else doesn't fit properly so on went the manifold and turbo, that too was close
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i also made use of the std volvo downpipe and exhaust so set about chopping it up and using what i could
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and ended up with the front section, which is enough to get the van running and the rest will be made at a later date. i plan to heat wrap it too .
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i then started on the air intake run
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and ended up like this
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the boost run is where it gets a little complicated as the plan was to take throttle through the cab then back out under the turbo but there's not much room i thought i'd get the hot side done first. started from the turbo at the back
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along the front of the engine
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and into a s2 escort ic
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its alot samller than i wanted to use but will do for the time being as needed both posts to be on the same side but there isnt the space for a gtt ic. i may change this at a later date if something else crops up.
i've also plumbed up the fuel system using an audi pump, gtt fuel filter and new fuel hose as the original ones were plastic and thin. i have a concern that as it was carbed, the ports on the pick up may be too small causing either a restriction to the the pump, the fuel return or both, but again i'll deal with that if becomes an issue. no pics as yet until i've sorted some brackets.
Tony Walker
29-09-2012, 19:29
Amazing to see this finished :D
you'll start suffering from what the gordini turbo boys get when they convert to a gt turbo carb.
the feed from the tank is too small and the return is too restrictive.
some fit bigger lines, some go the swirl pot route.....
which one is better....only one way to tell.
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All the fuel system is how I'd run it on a gtt, pump, filter and 8mm lines but the pick up ports are smaller than a campus where you can just swap the senders over. Have thought about a surge pot as the tank isnt baffled. Not sure if there's an alternative sender but until I take it out I don't if it can be modified or whether I'll need to fit some extra tails into the tank instead.
Excellent project m8, Looks like your making good progress too. Can't wait to see it finished :-)
All the fuel system is how I'd run it on a gtt, pump, filter and 8mm lines but the pick up ports are smaller than a campus where you can just swap the senders over. Have thought about a surge pot as the tank isnt baffled. Not sure if there's an alternative sender but until I take it out I don't if it can be modified or whether I'll need to fit some extra tails into the tank instead.
gordini return is 6mm..... i think you might be ok :)
Woznaldo
02-10-2012, 23:24
This could be the coolest big Renault since the Williams F1 Espace! :cool:
Methodical as ever Haz.
When I'm next in UK I'm gonna have to pop up to see you and Scoff. You guys are the ones bringing all these ideas to life. Love it!
your insane:cooter:
Tell us something we don't know :D
Woz, anytime, kettle's always on :)
not sure it will be as 'cool' as and f1 espace, maybe more of the retro version?
well i've got a bit more done this evening. carried on with the water system. i still had to bypass the matrix until i can source a replacement and cant decide whether to bother with water cooling the turbo but it can be added in if need be. have tried a few other rads i had but in the end stuck with the one i was originally using
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and a pic from the top looking almost complete
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i went back to looking at the fuel pick up again, definately not happy with the ports they were about 6mm and 4mm (the top left is a peice of 8mm tube)
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so i thought i'd see what could be done as the backplate was metal too so chopped of the return and soldered in a replacement
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seemed to take pretty well so replaced the pickup too. its a bit pikey but a wanted to retain the fuel sender so soldered and kinked the original and added the new one
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that should do the job nicely now. there is still some concern that there may be fuel starvation as the tank isn't baffled but so long as it doesn't run low i cant see it being a problem
Cool.
It's crazy that with so much space in the front there are so many places where it's really tight!
Chris mate, you know my views on this. Awesome idea. :smokin:
i've had a few spare hours this week so have cracked on with the van. the wiring loom has been chopped about to work in the engine bay along with being mated up with the original and i've got a few more bits back in the bay. i've had to extend the airfilter pipe but there's still enough room for the jack.
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i'd tried to go with the original plan of the throttle at the back but as it was very tight for the boost run so it had to be differently, and markey mark had dave's old plenum which seemed made for the job so on it went
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i didn't want to use samco's, not yet anyway but was all i could find that would do the job, even if the 'reducer' is a little pmt. battery back in to test the wiring.
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and fitted the heater scoop to check for clearance
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after cranking but no fuel pump firing up, its an early engine with later loom but early ecu's, the ecu required the extra live (thanks for the reminder scoff) and with that its fired up :)
still a few more bits like the exhaust and a few tweeks to do and then build the front end up before a test drive but shall update progress.
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TNT ANDY
02-11-2012, 06:24
The Tits:agree:
:D Love it! Great project Haz :cool:
13's at Pod? ;)
:smokin: Good progress! The pure thought of it on the road suprising people makes me :D
Matt Cole
02-11-2012, 12:48
Legend Haz! :D
Need more crazy **** on the board to keep us all sane!;)
Thanks. Looking forward to the test drive. Doubt it'll get anywhere near 13's if I ran it at pod, it's pretty much standard apart from the cam and throttle body and boost will be set to 1bar so will make approx 175bhp but it weighs about 2 tonne! It did feel quick for a van originally but the ratios are very short and it used to top out at 80mph. I'm guessing the van cam/revs won't be as high as the Volvo as it doesn't have a rev counter, yet, so be interesting to see if that helps top end.
after building the van up i though it was best to tax it as i figured once the exhaust was made i'd want to drive it so dug out the paperwork to find out that the mot was also due meaning i had a couple of extra jobs to get done.
anyway, i'd already used most of the volvo system for the downpipe, the guy who removed it had kinked it over the axle and the back box sounded like it had fell apart interenally so order another centre section and over axle peice. i wanted a silencer as want to keep it descreet so tried to find out which one it was i had used in the past, luckily scoff had also bought one at the time and wasn't being used so was adapted in and ended up like this
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and off i tootled to the mot station. the exhaust although deeper at idle doesnt seem to be loud, in fact i think quieter than the standard item. engine runs alot smoother with the efi. boosting 7psi atm so not fast by any means but enough to spin the wheels with a hard launch :wasntme:
a couple of minor faults, the waterpump weaps when there's alot of pressure in the system and the crank seal also weaps. nothing too excessive but will want doing.
the paddle clutch is also not ideal. trying to crawl away from the lights is not an option. although its soft with the 172 arm the bite is so severe and with the added weight of the van just judders off unless you give it half throttle. i think it wants a new std clutch really but see how it beds in again.
idles high but to be expected until i get the tps fitted.
other than that it has an advisory for some new wipers and it has a fresh mot, and tax. done a few local runs here and there and all seems good, quite amusing. gearbox ratios are a bit short, and very clunky making it drop of spool between chenges but something i may look into in the future?
get the niggles sorted and then some more boost :)
well after a few days of using the van i thought i should give it a proper run out so last night i headed over to scoff's. despite the leaks and the exhaust clunking like mad when feathering the clutch is runs good. on the old engine it used to be screaming along the motorway at 75mph, i'd even managed to crack 80mph downhill! with the volvo lump its cruising along at 75mph just off boost, with some poke for overtaking if need be. not overly impressive but i guessed that was due to the aerodynamics and the extra weight, afterall its the same as a 5 towing a clio!
although not ready to up the boost until i change the actuator and sort the niggles it went on the rollers to check things over
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it wasn't right, its richening up and power is just dropping off before 4k, even at std boost and its hunting at idle. after trying a few things, exhaust off to check that wasn't restrictive, adjusting afm, adjusting throttle, checking ecu mod etc and not much luck. as a test the vac pipe was removed from the ecu, this stops the ecu retarding on boost when its sees the preset limit, but also doesnt advance off boost. instantly things improved, but still gets rich and drops off. one of the better runs (click on pic to watch)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/th_IMG_1881.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/?action=view¤t=IMG_1881.mp4)
(and no, i haven't finished the bumper yet!)
there was only so much to test without exchanging parts so called it a night, thanks scoff. i think it ran 116bhp @ 9psi, down on the orignal engine from 120bhp, but 60bhp more than standard so still happy even thought there's more fiddling to be done before the engine comes back out.
before i left scoff couldn't resist having a little test drive, think he hates the clutch too! (clivck on pic to watch)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/th_IMG_1886.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/?action=view¤t=IMG_1886.mp4)
Big Steve - Raider
15-11-2012, 22:28
Just WIN! :niceone:
:laugh: Gold. Even at that power/boost, you can tell when it moves away that it's nothing like what you expect to hear/see.
EDIT - for some reason this brings up memories of Andy's Twingo. Gutted we've not seen that project continue with vids etc.
this is fantastic! :laugh:
well after looking into the loss of power last night there were a few leaks in the boost system, aswell as the bleed valve and t peice to try to raise the boost so i sorted that out to work as it should and adjusted some pipes, which held the pressure better but then resulted in making only 2psi on the road although did feel better off boost. i've adjusted the clutch a bit which has improved slow starts slightly too.
so this evening i've swapped the actuator for a t34 version, set with no preload to start with.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1892.jpg
and the bleed T's back into the inlet pipe
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1893.jpg
i never bothered adapting the throttle switch to the 2ltr throttle as i wasn't keeping it so fitted a std one back in situ and as i didn't want to use the samco's in the first place adjusted the boost run to suit. more oe looking now.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1894.jpg
what a difference! throttle response doesn't seem as sudden, or aggressive so doesnt rev up as quick but is so much smoother now the tps is plugged in. its also drastically improved clutch judder when pulling off. although it feels like its lost acceleration boost is back up to 7psi.
i have been looking for a while for a heater matrix part which i've yet to source so i've glued the old bits back together in the hope to get some heaters working again now its started getting chilly, so will give that a try tomorrow.
Winner! How long before we see a pulsar turbo and 20lb boost? I know the thought has crossed your mind;)
I had, but I sold all the bits to Markey mark to stop me. I want to try and keep the low down grunt to help get the van moving but I don't think the gearbox would like the high revs too much. The main thing was to improve the economy over the carb'd 1700 but some extra poke for when needed, the plan is still 1bar on std injectors. Should make 160+bhp.
The sensible option;) still 160hp in a van should make it plenty fun enough for a work horse.
However i know what your like, I had presumed the thought had crossed your mind at some point, reasons you gave above seem plausable in the fact that you don't want to get to serious with it.
Save the funds and time and make the 11 the insane one:agree:
i had decided that the engine had to come out at some point to do various jobs but after a couple of extra noises and loss of the clutch pedal its had to come out earlier than planned
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1909.jpg
its managed to rip apart one of the engine mounts
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1901.jpg
and i've broken the release bearing
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1899.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1900.jpg
along with wearing out the input shaft and bellhousing nose
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1902.jpg
the clutch seems fine, alot better than i was expecting with the way it operated
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1906.jpg
but the input shaft has also worn its way into the crank
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1905.jpg
after speaking to a local old skool gearbox place i have a few problems. the cause is that the volvo lump doesnt have a spigot bearing, something i hadn't considered as didnt notice it on the the old engine and assumed it would just line up as it appears no longer than a gtt input shaft, infact i think its shorter now as wasn't binding to start with. the other is a common box problem, the input shaft can work its way out from the main drive cluster, renault tried various options with the last design using a reworked input shaft and locking cluster. basically its worked its way out and spun off centre.
i doubt i'll even find this type as there's so little i've found on the net so far but the guy is confident that he can machine the bellhousing and replace the nose like new and has a kit he used to supply to keep the shaft in place and supply the spigot bearing. i've got to pop in with the box to discuss repairs and other options like strengthening and ratios. i'll have to get the crank machined too.
Markey Mark (BD)
21-11-2012, 21:31
Ouch thats a bit of a pain mate, looks bit nasty on the end of the crank :crap:
If you need spare crank to have machined up i have one lying here doing nothing, might be worth drive down if you after few more bits (flywheels, etc)
Having a read above with the tuning issues you've had i might look into all that again with my mates 5, still got slight issue with the idle. Akways comes in handy reading these threads :agree:
yup, kicking myself for overlooking it ! at least its happened now rather than after i've changed the clutch and it makes me do a few more bits that i wanted to do anyway.
i guess i should pop over when you can spare a few hours to go through the bits, starting to get a little pile here for you too. actually its good to go back to basics and have a re cap on fine tuning, mating older/newer bits, looms etc for a change. should actually get an up to date b18ft conversion guide with fault finding/diagnostics/mods etc in the files section.
i had a similar problem using a gtt crank in a mk1 5 - the old non gordini box 5speed needs an spigot bearing, but the gtt gearbox doesnt. - i had had gearbox oil spraying all over the plate, due to the input shaft wobbling around. - i had to get a tube made up to act as a bearing!
I've yet to look at the original engine to see what is used, ideally I'd like to get something that sits in the flywheel to save machining the crank as the input shaft shouldn't touch if it stays in the box!
Gutted ! that has made a mess! On the flip side it explains why the clutch was harsher than expected! Are you going to be able to find another box or will go with the repair?
i think the harshness was to do with the the larger 2ltr throttle and no tps as it drastically improved when put back to std. i could almost pull away normally.
think it makes sense to stick with this box assuming its all ok inside. if i can find another it will more than likely need modifying too.
THE MASTER
23-11-2012, 11:45
sorry HAZ ive only just seen this thread . unfurtunatly you found the weak point in the box ...dam input shaft. if i had seen this thread earlier i would have said to you about it ...it is a know prob and ren tryed differnt things to solve .. the last was a clip on shaft using a locking ring rather than just a circlip. im sure you will find away to hold the shaft back and stop it riding foward
i did notice that the shaft pulled out when i took the old engine out but just assumed that it would only come out so far once bolted together. the gearbox place tells me they have their own solution from doing trafic ambulances back in the day ;)
here's the main problem that i missed as was too interested in what was wrong with the old clutch
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1915.jpg
which simply pops out and with a little more effort goes into the volvo flywheel, but wants replacing too.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1917.jpg
now as the bearing doesnt go all the way into the flywheel i cant see how the shaft would move forward unless it pushes the bearing further in? maybe a spacer behind it would be another solution. off to the gearbox place to see what they can do tomorrow.
also been looking at the gearlever before it came out, looks like there can be some adjustment on the pivot point too as i dont imagine there's a quick shift for it :laugh:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1918.jpg
i've been over to the gearbox place today to see what needs replacing, forgot to get pics tho!
to start with both drains were in solid and split through being over tightened and i had to chisel them out,
the breather pipes are starting to perish,
the release bearing which was destroyed,
the spigot bearing as had seen better days,
the nose is going to be machined out with a new sleeve put in,
the input shaft will be replaced and like a brass top hat fitted to keep it in place,
and i've smashed the 3rd/4th fork off so one of those with springs,
with a set of gaskets and seals.
on the plus side, although he's not found the peice off the fork yet as it was a quick look over to order parts, its not done any further damage but there is alot of swarf so it may have come off a while ago. the design of the fork stops it dropping out of place so it still engages gears, it just pulls lobsided so will replace any syncro's if needed.
the casing also a nice thick greasey film like the oil's hardly been changed through its life, and has got hot, so about time it had a refurn anyway.
cant do much with the gearing but he seems to think its an earlier version so should have taller gears but shorter diff compared to the later models so could still be an option if i can find the correct gearbox. if anyone hears of possibility at a local breakers etc please let me know (has to be f block not j block version) thanks.
should have it back sometime next week as some parts had to be ordered but got a few other bits to keep me going.
You could easy extend that top bracket up to move the pivot! Might be easier to make a new gear lever in round bar than chopping up and bending the existing.
Recon I could chop a 2" piece from inside the cab and fit just below the pivot, with a matching 2" angle iron in the centre of the bracket. May want more but recon that's the limit without adjusting the floor or like you say, making a new lever.
made a bit more progress this week. while waiting on the gearbox ive replaced the thermostat as the centre had been removed for the rear rad setup
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1959.jpg
and replaced the waterpump as the old one was leaking through the bearing
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2010.jpg
bit of a service on the front calipers, freeing off the pistons, clean up of the discs and replaced the pads, suprisingly the nipples still work too!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2001.jpg
i've got the gearbox back too, the delay was getting the correct bits from renault. fully refurbed with added bush to keep the shaft in situ
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1997.jpg
so got it back in this evenin
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_1999.jpg
also finished off the fuel pump tray, some polycarbonate, u clamps and rubber bobbins
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2006.jpg
as i ripped the other engine mounts i thought i'd get some more, and if they're good enough for a gtt they'll do for the van, so got some v8 mounts
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2002.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2004.jpg
just waiting on a couple more bits before the engine goes back in.
not wanting to waste a day and be roped into household chores i thought i'd find something else to do on the van. so i made a start and wrapped the downpipe
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2011.jpg
then decided that the crank seal isnt weaping to badly so it can wait until the next time the engine comes out. the paddle clutch has been sent off for some new pads and looking like it could be the middle of jan before i get it back so reverted back to the the valeo 215mm clutch and got the engine back in
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2016.jpg
and the mounts looking pretty std too
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2012.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2013.jpg
i've shortened the air intake run to take up less space
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2015.jpg
and i've re done the intercooler run to take this modified frontera cooler
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2014.jpg
few more bits to finish it off and then try to re work the grille around it.
got round to the gearstick just before christmas
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2017.jpg
chopped it about and moved the pivot point 7cm higher than std, had to enlarge the floor but the travel from 1st to second has improved from about 20cm to about 10 and feels alot closer.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2019.jpg
little more progress, the weather has finally been nice enough for another tinker. got the gear box oil in and a few other checks before firing it up again. all was fine, tried selecting gears, nothing. adjusted the clutch further and further with no avail. resorted to shiming the engine and box and has reseloved the problem, so its either the new shaft has a different spline length, not fully in the box with the new brass collar or the std valeo clutch has a wider centre than the paddle and oe van. also the crank seal weep is more apparent now flicking oil onto the exhaust, not severve but needs sorting, so the engine is going to have to come out. . .again.
had a little test drive to check things over so i can tootle about until i'm waiting for parts,
http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/?action=view¤t=IMG_2162_zpsd7c2f70d.mp4
Any recent progress on this ?
actually there has been biggs, but very little pics as some look the same, i'd just forgotten to update the thread a while back.
the engine wasn't running as smooth as it could be, and with the previously mentioned niggles the engine was removed again.
i figured it was time to pull the engine apart.
as you can see the cams are quite different even at a glance, the E cam that came in the engine and the std that was a spare. the std cam allows to be a tooth out either way and the E cam can only be timed up correctly. my concern was that i had noticed the belt wasn't as tight as it should be when i bought the engine back, but as i hadn't ran it wasn't an issue.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2410_zpsb98cea07.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2410_zpsb98cea07.jpg.html)
so the head was removed
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2430_zps2044c26e.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2430_zps2044c26e.jpg.html)
and a closer inspection revealed some slight rubbing on all pistons
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2412_zpsb7253c45.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2412_zpsb7253c45.jpg.html)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2416_zps833904d3.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2416_zps833904d3.jpg.html)
and one very slightly bent valve
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2414_zps8d19ec75.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2414_zps8d19ec75.jpg.html)
it turns out that the engine had been ran by the previous owner after the cam and belt had been professionally fitted :crap:
so the head was replaced with a decent spare and i used the std cam, since the rest of the set up was std and there is no reason for the van to rev higher than std.
the sump was removed to give it a clean out and a fresh bead of sealant and a washer
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2428_zps9b85243e.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2428_zps9b85243e.jpg.html)
and finally bothered to replace the crank seal
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2429_zps9598f7f7.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2429_zps9598f7f7.jpg.html)
the spigot bearing has been wacked further into the crank and the engine has been fitted back into place and finally runs nice, and without any leaks!
i've trimmed the grille to sit round the frontera cooler for the oe look, yes i know i've damaged the no. plate from getting under and out of the van!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2705_zps822febe4.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2705_zps822febe4.jpg.html)
and i have added a couple of pmt gauges to see what things are doing.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2709_zps6df15493.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2709_zps6df15493.jpg.html)
i have a couple more little jobs to do like upping the boost, painting the plastics then it will be up for sale.
and it can fit all this in too brigsy :coffee:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2210_zps4c5d7f5a.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/nocturnaldevelopments/media/trafic%20t1000/IMG_2210_zps4c5d7f5a.jpg.html)
Adey aka Ewok
22-07-2013, 21:40
i think videos are needed, just for ****s and giggles, bet its a right laugh
there is adey, follow the thread back ;)
ah, there's one outside scoff's, loooks like a poor quality side of van pic, the other is just a link on a post
http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/nocturnaldevelopments/trafic%20t1000/?action=view¤t=IMG_2162_zpsd7c2f70d.mp4
Well the plan was to carpet the rear and finish a few bits and sell it early next year . . . . except it got stolen off my drive last night. I suspect it'll be for a ram raid and then burnt out or stripped and weighed in for scrap. I don't thing anyone on here will hear/see anything but if you do, please let me know, thanks
Adey aka Ewok
10-12-2013, 21:01
what the ****, gutting :(
Slammed 66
10-12-2013, 21:19
Christ! The scumbags will have had a shock when they put their foot down.
Here's to hoping they have their hands aputated.
****ers, it's the time and effort that has gone into it that must piss you off the most, not to mention the funds, at least you don't see many of them so you never know someone might spot it.
TNT ANDY
10-12-2013, 21:42
Utter BallBags - gutted for ya Haz.
:(
LeeR5GTT
10-12-2013, 21:52
****ing scum. All that hard work and now this. Truly gutted for you
Utter **** mate! Can't beleive they steal a car like that, then atleast steal something that's valueble to sell!
Just a hint, i personally don't use facebook but friends of mine realy have had succes with it.
Send a pic and discription to all your buddies and ask them to forward them!
No way, gutted for you mate
B@stards!! Hope you get it back mate! :mad:
Woznaldo
11-12-2013, 08:23
Really sorry to hear that Haz. It sickens me to hear that people still do this sh!t.:(
DaveL485
11-12-2013, 09:24
Absolute ****ers, sorry to hear this!
B18ftMOJO5
11-12-2013, 17:13
Bad news mate... :( hope the cops get them and find it soon.
I've had a call earlier to say the van has been found abandoned about 10miles away and the vin plates in town?? I presume it's just local scallies who may have seen the van and took it for a joy ride? I can't get it back until forensics have dusted it and not seen it either. I've been told there's £150 collection charge, smashed back window, stoved in side door and damage to dash, ignition and column but there's bound to be more wrong with it. At least it hadn't been burnt out.
I don't think cars feel the same when this has happens so i plan to get it back, sort out some security and rectify whatever is damaged, finish a few bits then get it up for sale. If anyone here may be interested rather than eBay I am happy to do more/less to suit buyer.
Thanks for the support :)
B18ftMOJO5
11-12-2013, 20:28
Result in some way i suppose. Good job haz hope its not too badly damaged.:agree:
Guybrush
11-12-2013, 21:05
first time i'd read this project thread... not the usual end to one of these threads:crap:
Glad it's been found.
Don't rush to get rid Haz. See what's what first and make a decision then. It might not be as bad as you think.
Put a PMT immob on it this time!
Glad its been found, but they are charging you for your vehicle which got stolen to get it back :crap:
I was going to finish a few bits and sell it early next year anyway Trev, back on with the 21 over Christmas so was going as soon as that was done to fund finally getting the 11 done. I also have my 172 to sell on, no need for 4 vehicles!
Yeah dale, £150 collection charge, £20 a day storage after forensics have been, and the depo is further away than where it was found. I'm hoping it was just dumped because it ran out of fuel as gauge wasnt working.
:agree:
I think the T1000 is a much more interesting project than an 11 or 21 but that's just me being selfish and wanting to see more without putting in any effort myself :D
Hope it comes back in reasonable condition. Can't believe the cost of the storage/collection. Once you add in fuel, advertising costs, plus the time and effort associated with both things, is it actually worth collection?? Or would it be as easy to tell them to scrap it? :scared:
Lol, it's definitely unique. The only downside for the van imo is the gear ratios, had I taken more notice before getting the box built I would have changed the gear set. Top speed of 85mph @6200, 70mph around 4k so wants to cruise around 60-65 so it's fine round town which is what I mostly do but I don't like driving that slow for long distance, to be fair a std gt is only just off boost around 70mph. Possibly a t25 would but more suited for motorways, or bigger wheels. I would prefer it to stay in the club, but if rather get is some and pull some cash out as I may not be as 'lucky' next time.
The 21 sells for peanuts, had no takers and prefer that than the 172 so will be my daily.
The 11 I've had too long and will be my fast family alternative to a 5.
Regards the costs, I'll be informed once forensics have been so will pick it up that day, its only 20miles or so away. The t1000's tend to fetch £1000 ish for one as tidy as this/was if you can find one, most are blue and rot boxes. I was hoping to ask around 2k once it was all pimped up ;)
Thundercat
12-12-2013, 12:58
Get it finished mate, should sell easywhen finished!
Regards the costs, I'll be informed once forensics have been so will pick it up that day, its only 20miles or so away. The t1000's tend to fetch £1000 ish for one as tidy as this/was if you can find one, most are blue and rot boxes. I was hoping to ask around 2k once it was all pimped up ;)
:agree:
Benjibrady
12-12-2013, 21:01
I am genuinely gutted by this. Was hoping to see a true sleeper
:dearme: At least it's been found though :agree:
I have the van back, picked it up last week. It seems it was driven until it ran out of juice and pushed onto an estate. I presume it was just kids as they left a chewed up screwdriver and scissors in the footwell. They have tried using either directly into the drivers and side door locks, rather the usual way but not ruined them as dropped the drivers glass off the dodgy runners. They have tried the ignition barrel the same way then ripped off the cowling and chopped the wires, broken the steering lock but column still feels true.
Vin plates are still on, so no idea what the police found? As we're the reg plates, and the new front one that was in the footwell. Jump leads, tyre inflator and stereo still in it but gear knob is missing and the boost gauge and pod have been ripped off the dash, a speaker grille broken when pulled off but tacho there though, and the 1kg fire extingusher gone.
Side door is fine but they have thrown a rock through each back window, there wasnt any glass on my drive so assume that was done after they finished with it. It looks like its been through a field with mud on the tyres, and up an embankment as there's mud/grass on the front of the subframe which normally has good clearance. Bonnet stay is bent so assume they have been under there but nothing missing and runs as it did.
To get it on the road quicker I have fitted some white lexan instead of rear windows, unfortunately the local supplier didnt have clear, and I've cleared some space to store in the garage until I get round to sourcing and fitting the required bits after the festivities.
Good to have it back :)
Benjibrady
28-12-2013, 16:54
I'm glad it's not as bad as first feared haz. What's the plans for it now?
I'm still thinking the same really, to get it fixed and back together and finish a few other bits off then get it up for sale.
i've picked up an alarm as a starting point to get it more secure and decided to remove the door locks so i also got a universal 4 door central locking kit. it was a bit of pain since the van is very minimalistic so there are no holes or bellows and even no door pins on the rear or side door so all had to be fitted from scratch. The dash wiring is also minimal with the loom only supplying the clock, stalks, ignition and interior light. even the stereo had been retro fitted using the connector for the cig lighter as it doesnt have one as standard, so hiding the alarm and connections was a bit difficult but looks factory and wired it a little differently to hopefully confuse theives even if they have an idea with alarms. i've used one immobiliser that came with the kit and added another seperate one just to be sure.
now that its alarmed and immobilised i was looking into options for door lock blanks. i dont want to delock and flush the doors, to save repairing and painting, but gives the option for them to be refitted should someone choose too so was debating things like coachbolts painted black to replicate the locks?
my concern now is that if the led and no locks doesnt put them off then they are bound to put the windows through to get in, i think a steering wheel disklok is required too!
Dave Reed
10-01-2014, 04:44
Fit some deadlocks, they wont open the doors then.. Also a simple hidden cut off switch to say the fuel pump or coil with throw them long enough even if they do get past the alarm/immop.
Or leave a hungry rottweiler in the cab! :D
TNT ANDY
10-01-2014, 06:23
Glad to see you've not lost heart with this Haz :agree: I don't know if I could be bothered knowing that the same scroates could do the same again.
That said, if that where everyones stance - the scroates have won.
Respect:agree:
Great news. :agree:
Does the 1.7 lump have an over-boost circuit/switch like the GTT to tap into? Always a good place for an immob. Plenty of noise as the engine turns over but no ignition :)
Nope, still going andy. just want to make sure it doesnt go again. convinced its some mates of youths down the street. I heard part of a convo of some lads who i guess where riding past on bikes whilst tinkering in the garage, summit about the van with the reply of 'he's keeping it in the garage now'. Recon I could find out who was involved but what can you do, seek revenge but then await more troubles since they know where you live, not what I'm after when the mrs is home alone.
I thought about deadlocks but then it's pointless having central locking? I may put the locks back in as I think the discklok's are a great deterant. I feel if its too hard to get into then it will probably be a brick through the window and I'm struggling to find replacements, just out of interest.
Regards the immobiliser, without saying too much, one is built into the alarm but buried and the other buried in the Volvo loom. I didn't want to tap into the starter as I'd like them to make some noise trying to start it, if they get that far. Same issue with hidden switches, they have to be further away than around the driver, but it's more faffing round when wanting to just jump in and go. So frustrating!
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