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DaveL485
20-05-2012, 11:24
:)

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Also seen here: (Seats have since been changed mind, and some gauges have vanished lol)

http://www.fastcar.co.uk/2011/08/01/modified-renault-5-gt-turbo-2011-08-01/

http://media.fastcar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/modified_r5_gtt_041-592x886.jpg

Woznaldo
20-05-2012, 11:28
Good to see this car back in the club. :agree:

Logg
20-05-2012, 11:29
Wow that's a blast from the past.

SCHWARTZ
20-05-2012, 12:41
That's amazing, looks really well done. I want it:D

Scoff
20-05-2012, 13:02
It's lost a chargecooler and the header tank is changed, otherwise it doesn't look to have changed much :) really glad it's still going. Did you know, that shell was my first car at 17 :)

GTphil
20-05-2012, 13:08
And it still looks really well:cool: the seats are currently Sat in my raider, I bought them off matt (think that was his name) when he had it.;)

was a fantastic car, hope time and owners have been kind to it:)

alex johnston
20-05-2012, 15:31
for a second i thought it was BB tunings old demo car, what ever happened to that??

DaveL485
20-05-2012, 17:15
It's lost a chargecooler and the header tank is changed, otherwise it doesn't look to have changed much :) really glad it's still going. Did you know, that shell was my first car at 17 :)

Yeah the owner before the last owner before did a naughty after he agreed to sell to the car and when it was delivered there were several bits missing :rolleyes:
Be up for sale soon if you want it back lol......although I said that about my 172 and I still have it! :laugh:


And it still looks really well:cool: the seats are currently Sat in my raider, I bought them off matt (think that was his name) when he had it.;)

was a fantastic car, hope time and owners have been kind to it:)

See above, the seats vanished between sale agreement and delivery. Bit naughty, but hey, not my beef.
Got a few bits to do to it, then a remap, then I think I might "Road Test" it :D and then probably sell it on. I bought it to save it from just sitting about until death, more than anything.

Alastair
20-05-2012, 17:44
love that car!

GTphil
20-05-2012, 18:22
See above, the seats vanished between sale agreement and delivery. Bit naughty, but hey, not my beef.
Got a few bits to do to it, then a remap, then I think I might "Road Test" it :D and then probably sell it on. I bought it to save it from just sitting about until death, more than anything.[/quote]

When I bought the seats off matt I went round to his to collect them and he had a pair of very high end buckets sat in it, never knew he was pulling a fast one:(

Good few years ago now mind;)

Mart
20-05-2012, 18:30
Nice one Dave :agree: An rtoc legend of a car for sure :)

No excuse not to be at Blyton now then ;)

DLampitt
20-05-2012, 19:27
fantastic what a car... why would anyone just want to leave it sat in a barn? far too good to be kept hidden away well done :)

w35ty
20-05-2012, 21:28
Looks amazing mate! Wouldnt mind that myself:smokin:

DaveL485
20-05-2012, 23:05
Nice one Dave :agree: An rtoc legend of a car for sure :)

No excuse not to be at Blyton now then ;)

Only issue I have with Blyton is how many cars I can get there. Trying for 3 :)


fantastic what a car... why would anyone just want to leave it sat in a barn? far too good to be kept hidden away well done :)

Too many cars, not enough time. Moved on from crazy French junk to bigger (more common and faster) things.


Looks amazing mate! Wouldnt mind that myself:smokin:

Make me an offer. Its for sale for the right price, and will be advertised once i've done the few bits it needs and MOT'd it. Too many cars to keep it long term and although it's special, it's not as special (to me) as the other ones i've had for many years.

newbstar*
20-05-2012, 23:59
Nice car :agree:;)

GT Josh
21-05-2012, 10:07
Madness. What was this pulling 1/4s at??

Tutuur
21-05-2012, 10:46
lovely car that is! i do wonder how it handles with the engine in the back!

DaveL485
21-05-2012, 11:00
Madness. What was this pulling 1/4s at??

Low 12's I believe it was.

DaveL485
21-05-2012, 11:01
lovely car that is! i do wonder how it handles with the engine in the back!

"Interestingly", I would have thought. If I kept it i'd be slinging some more weight in the front. I have a new ally fuel tank for it to go under the bonnet for starters, and i'd likely chuck a 25kg bag of sand under there too lol

DaveL485
21-05-2012, 11:05
Lots of PM's asking about the car....so here is the reply i've been sending.



It needs-
Injectors refurbing or replacing
Remap for the above
New ally fuel tank fitting (Supplied)
New seats fitting (Supplied) they are Recaro's but I do have matching Blue Cobra Monaco's with harnesses I bought for another car i would let go with it at extra cost.
Rust bubbles on bottom of drivers door and a 50p size bit on bonnet sorting out

If I do all that and MOT it I'd ask £3.5k.

As it stands i'd let it go for £2,900. It's a great little car and running a grands worth of standalone management, the execution of it is fantastic. It'd be a cover feature car with a little TLC. It runs low 12s 1/4 mile and would hit the 11's with little effort to tuning.

My mobile is 07969014585.

Additionally, it's just had a new lump put in (I forgot to mention it in the PM's) too.

Woznaldo
21-05-2012, 11:25
I be VERY tempted if I was in UK right now! :(

Scoff
21-05-2012, 11:34
It handles quite well in the dry, I spent a while experimenting with suspension and geometry. You need to be carefull in the wet though !

Woznaldo
21-05-2012, 11:47
That just makes me want it more! :devil:

DaveL485
21-05-2012, 20:37
That just makes me want it more! :devil:

See above! :laugh::laugh:

w35ty
21-05-2012, 20:51
Id snatch that off you if i had that kinda cash.. Love it:agree:

gtmatt
21-05-2012, 21:26
It's alive ,I remember when it was sliver :)

GTphil
21-05-2012, 22:26
Scoff, am I right in thinking you did something like 5 seconds 0-60 with a 230hp c1j in this car at trax one year? Or was it sub 5 second........

DaveL485
22-05-2012, 09:14
Scoff, am I right in thinking you did something like 5 seconds 0-60 with a 230hp c1j in this car at trax one year? Or was it sub 5 second........

Look - I bought this for a bit of a blarp, and to sell on so it didn't die in misery stuck in a hole.

You're really, really not helping me sell it. I have a reeeeally bad habit of buying to sell, and getting stuck before the "sell" part lol (See Thread (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=28060) all the cars here cost less than 4k combined total!) :wasntme:

GTphil
22-05-2012, 09:25
Ok then, maybe it was something like 8 seconds:p

Ian S
22-05-2012, 10:14
Scoff, am I right in thinking you did something like 5 seconds 0-60 with a 230hp c1j in this car at trax one year? Or was it sub 5 second........Wasn't it 3.9 seconds?? Was this the silver engine in the back car or was that another one?

GTphil
22-05-2012, 10:21
Wasn't it 3.9 seconds?? Was this the silver engine in the back car or was that another one?

That's it! There was an incar vid that was awesome, the dash flap promtly emptyed it's content all over the car:smokin:

Scoff- if you read this you should buy it back and stick your motor from your black gtt in the back, that would be truely insane!!!:D

DaveL485
22-05-2012, 14:47
Wasn't it 3.9 seconds?? Was this the silver engine in the back car or was that another one?

LAALAALAALAA **Fingers in ears**

:cry:

Scoff
22-05-2012, 14:57
Surely a 3.9 sec 0-60 should help show how good it's straight line traction is dave ? I thought it should be an aid to its sale :)

It was 3.9 sec 0-60, timed at trax in 2003 or maybe 2004 ? Basically, I gave it large, and whatever was on the dash and in the cuby hole above the heater soon found itself on the parcel shelf ;) Great fun and I miss it sometimes.

The best I could do with C1J and FWD the following year was a 4.6

Phil, I just don't have the space or time these days! You know how life goes :)

Ian, yes, same car, I painted it blue/grey in 2005 I think ? Then Haz restored the body further when Matt bought it from me .

Ian S
22-05-2012, 15:09
So what engine is in there now?

Scoff do you recall what tyres you had on for that 3.9 second run?

Scoff
22-05-2012, 15:14
Volvo b18ft with a GT28R and standalone, unless anything has changed.

Scoff
22-05-2012, 15:16
Volvo b18ft with a GT28R and standalone, unless anything has changed.

Tyres were mickey thomson slick that day.

Big_O
22-05-2012, 15:36
was this featured in performance GTI mag around 2006?

Bigfoot
22-05-2012, 15:41
Wasn't the plan for this car to put a VAG lump in the back of it?

Ian S
22-05-2012, 15:55
Tyres were mickey thomson slick that day.So on grippy road tyres one could expect nearer to 5 seconds 0 to 60.

But now it has that larger engine :)

Scoff
22-05-2012, 16:01
was this featured in performance GTI mag around 2006?

Yes, that was it's first feature I think. Then it was is Fast car, see the link at the top of the thread.

Dale, not to my knowledge.

TNT Tricky Nicky
22-05-2012, 19:58
I believe dale is correct with his statement.

Matt who had it was planning on going vag but I remember something about his granddad dieing and needing to get rid of the car, he put it up for sale took a deposit and arranged a day for collection. The guy buying the car sold his phase 1 and drove from Norwich to up Liverpool way on the arranged day, matt was nowhere to be seen, was rang constantly until he answered only to be told he didn't want to sell up anymore. 2 weeks later the car was sold again but took about 3 months for the deposit to get refunded.

Doesn't suprise me that expected parts had gone missing when it was sold

Bigfoot
22-05-2012, 20:35
I believe dale is correct with his statement.

Matt who had it was planning on going vag but I remember something about his granddad dieing and needing to get rid of the car, he put it up for sale took a deposit and arranged a day for collection. The guy buying the car sold his phase 1 and drove from Norwich to up Liverpool way on the arranged day, matt was nowhere to be seen, was rang constantly until he answered only to be told he didn't want to sell up anymore. 2 weeks later the car was sold again but took about 3 months for the deposit to get refunded.

Doesn't suprise me that expected parts had gone missing when it was sold

That dont surprise me with Matt, was going to purchase the black clio, sorted out the money, got the day off, arranged for collection only to be told on the day that he had sold it to somebody else :mad:

DaveL485
23-05-2012, 22:38
Volvo b18ft with a GT28R and standalone, unless anything has changed.

Nope. Well, the engine has been blown up and replaced but with the same type.

DaveL485
23-05-2012, 22:41
That dont surprise me with Matt, was going to purchase the black clio, sorted out the money, got the day off, arranged for collection only to be told on the day that he had sold it to somebody else :mad:

I wonder what happened to that. The black Clio was owned by the chap who had the five off this Matt guy. They did a deal of some sort.
The five has done less than a hundred miles since that day!

Scoff
23-05-2012, 22:48
The original 1700cc engine had a presurising problem and was never mapped for much boost, I don't know if that information made it as far as the chap you bought it from dave. If it hasn't been mapped or at least tested since he swapped the motor then go easy with it dave. Those are tough motors, but easilly killed if the tune isn't right.

DaveL485
24-05-2012, 16:51
The original 1700cc engine had a presurising problem and was never mapped for much boost, I don't know if that information made it as far as the chap you bought it from dave. If it hasn't been mapped or at least tested since he swapped the motor then go easy with it dave. Those are tough motors, but easilly killed if the tune isn't right.


No it wasn't he got it under the impression it was good to go.....that would be why it went kaboom in such a short period of use then. We assumed there was an injector issue or similar that caused the failure.

Still, it's got another lump in it now, so a fresh start. Be seeing you soon by the looks of it! :D

Scoff
24-05-2012, 23:26
I found the dodgy incar video I did of the 3.9 sec 0-60 in 2004! I remember the clutch cable snapped while in the que getting in and I think it was Bill J who had a spare I pinched and fitted, which is probably still on the car today....... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-8Ifhdr4Q&feature=youtu.be

DaveL485
25-05-2012, 00:34
I found the dodgy incar video I did of the 3.9 sec 0-60 in 2004! I remember the clutch cable snapped while in the que getting in and I think it was Bill J who had a spare I pinched and fitted, which is probably still on the car today....... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-8Ifhdr4Q&feature=youtu.be

Ta! Same as a Noble M12 GTO. Thats sprightly!

3.9 to beat then. Shouldn't be too hard (with another engine in the front lol):D

GTphil
25-05-2012, 06:52
I found the dodgy incar video I did of the 3.9 sec 0-60 in 2004! I remember the clutch cable snapped while in the que getting in and I think it was Bill J who had a spare I pinched and fitted, which is probably still on the car today....... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-8Ifhdr4Q&feature=youtu.be

:cool: that's the one!

philg
25-05-2012, 08:39
Nice car, i like :)

The new Bill J
25-05-2012, 15:29
I remember the clutch cable snapped while in the que getting in and I think it was Bill J who had a spare I pinched and fitted, which is probably still on the car today....... :)


I remember that. 8 years ago? Jeez :eek:

DaveL485
05-06-2012, 21:07
Its here! :agree:

Scoff - Do these look like the maps you left it with? ie, does it look mapped properly? The lump was dying when my bud bought it, it blew up again after that too and now its got a nice lump with very low mileage in im not taking any risks (expect a visit soon!)

Reason I ask is that I dont wanna go ripping it apart looking for system issues if the map is a POS.

Fuel 1

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Ign 1

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Fuel 2

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DaveL485/2012-06-05_194332.png

Ign 2

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DaveL485/2012-06-05_194343.png

Starting off home

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DaveL485/2012-06-05_210104.png

Getting home

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DaveL485/2012-06-05_210116.png

I know it seems a crime having it outside but i'd have to kick my 9 or 21 out of a garage, and lets face it, that aint happenin! :laugh:

Scoff
05-06-2012, 22:17
I have no way of knowing if it's the same map dave, my memory isn't that good :) Initial glance tells me there is much too much timing in there for B18FT. I wasn't able to complete a real tune because of the water pressurising problems it had at higher rpm, so unless it's been tuned it'll still be a base map.

DaveL485
05-06-2012, 22:53
nitial glance tells me there is much too much timing in there for B18FT. I wasn't able to complete a real tune because of the water pressurising problems it had at higher rpm, so unless it's been tuned it'll still be a base map.

Thats all the info I was after bud, thanks. It had those water pressuring problems on arrival at the owner Matt sold it to (which he tried to cover up), and was the cause of the first rebuild after just 5 miles :eek::cry:

That would also explain why it went bang the second time :cry::cry:

Hope to get it in for MOT this week, be seeing you soon :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Scoff
05-06-2012, 23:25
looking forward to seeing it dave :)

Shame you cant bring it to FCS, I think I'll be there with Andy and his rear engine Clio, would have been nice sat along side it :)

5alldaway
05-06-2012, 23:49
lol good old matt

i still have the performance gti mag if the new owner wants it

DaveL485
06-06-2012, 00:26
lol good old matt

i still have the performance gti mag if the new owner wants it

Got one ta, came with the car. Appreciate the offer though!

DaveL485
06-06-2012, 00:28
looking forward to seeing it dave :)

Shame you cant bring it to FCS, I think I'll be there with Andy and his rear engine Clio, would have been nice sat along side it :)

French car yawn? Sorry, I meant French Car Show?

Cars are for driving, not for parking! :D

minty83
06-06-2012, 01:29
I wonder what happened to that. The black Clio was owned by the chap who had the five off this Matt guy. They did a deal of some sort.
The five has done less than a hundred miles since that day!

I bought the Clio of Matt owned it for about 2 yrs and sold it. It went back up north to a friend of the originally builder Matt black.. Who removed the engine and I seen the shell on pistonheads a few months back for £800.. The shell was so weak after Matt got the angle grinder to it

DaveL485
07-06-2012, 20:35
Now for sale:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=28317

Tutuur
08-06-2012, 10:25
So if i understand correct the car was Scoff's?
Are there any more pics of the build/rwd conversion.

Would really like to see how it's done cause i'm seriously thinking on doing it too!

sieger
08-06-2012, 13:10
i have the performance car magazine that featured this car somewere, i will have a look for you tuur :p