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GaryS
12-04-2012, 20:01
where abouts on the manifold do you connect up the one way valve?

i will have more questions to come yet people..........;)

SCHWARTZ
12-04-2012, 22:45
For the brake servo? Take it from the plenum near the throttle body over the rocker cover.

Tony Walker
12-04-2012, 23:01
base of the carb to the brake servo.

TrixNFlix
13-04-2012, 07:29
base of the carb to the brake servo.

We are efi baby!! :p:D

GaryS
13-04-2012, 10:59
We are efi baby!! :p:D

I'm working on it :) :D

SCHWARTZ
13-04-2012, 11:02
Do you have the gtx with turbo conversion then matey?

Tony Walker
13-04-2012, 18:20
anywhere on the inlet manifold that sees vacuum then. :)

GaryS
13-04-2012, 21:09
The b18ft has just gone in and I've just started to plum her up so may need some more help soon :)

SCHWARTZ
13-04-2012, 21:22
Ok then its the take off near the throttle body over the rocker cover about 10mm then.

TrixNFlix
14-04-2012, 12:14
:agree:
The b18ft has just gone in and I've just started to plum her up so may need some more help soon :)

philg
14-04-2012, 13:42
like said the largest one at the rear ;)

GaryS
17-04-2012, 20:06
Ok a couple more questions, this one way valve, i looked a connecting it up near the throttle body and the tread is different? whats the best way to go about it?


Next ;)

Ive just looked at the wiring loom and that seams a mission to wire it all up, any tips? does it have to be cut?

Cant the two boxes of the loom sit the the scuttle bay?

Thankyou :D

Markey Mark (BD)
17-04-2012, 20:15
Ok a couple more questions, this one way valve, i looked a connecting it up near the throttle body and the tread is different? whats the best way to go about it?


Next ;)

Ive just looked at the wiring loom and that seams a mission to wire it all up, any tips? does it have to be cut?

Cant the two boxes of the loom sit the the scuttle bay?

Thankyou :D


On my inlet manifold i tapped the tube that normally has the standard volvo servo pipe connected to, then screwed the one way valve into that. If you have look at my B18FT Extra thread (engine pic) you'll see what i mean

As for wiring its pretty easy mate, it took 3 wires connected to the volvo loom to get the van started. All the joins will be at the pink/red plug on the end, thst where it'll connect to the car. There is a guide on here on which wire goes where, i can't remember off top of my head bu you'll need to know if you got early or late loom

Yeah the ecus can live in the scuttle area, be worth protecting them though.

GaryS
17-04-2012, 21:15
Ok cheers Mark. Can i cut up the loom? so its the right length as the loom is super long.

My loom is from a 480 turbo on a 1990 plate if that helps.

Cheers.

philg
18-04-2012, 08:46
Regarding the loom everyone runs it anticlockwise from the coil, maf around the front, normally across the top slam panel to icv, alt etc then to the injectors and through a hole in the bulk head, its a pretty good fit tbh.

Im a fanny and took mine from the alt in between inner and outer drivers wing, cut 2 holes so it came in behind the battery which on my car is on the drivers side then down in behind the dash right round the back of the heater matrix and mounted the 2 ecus nice just behind the fuse box. I then used the spare fuse block holder fitted another block with my 4 fuses and wired up from there to the fuel relay, ignition barrel etc :) Nice and tidy :D

phil

GaryS
21-04-2012, 18:27
More help needed. Im just working on the loom now, the live feed to the loom does that just go to the live output on the altonator? what goes in the top single plug on the altonator, does one of the original loon wires connet there?

Also the oil level plug on the sump has 4 wires from it which 2 do i need to connect it to the renault loom?

Thankyou :)

philg
21-04-2012, 19:36
More help needed. Im just working on the loom now, the live feed to the loom does that just go to the live output on the altonator? what goes in the top single plug on the altonator, does one of the original loon wires connet there?

Also the oil level plug on the sump has 4 wires from it which 2 do i need to connect it to the renault loom?

Thankyou :)

The red wire goes to the alt live, the top single plug uses one wire from the Renault loom think it goes on the right spade, that will give you the light on your dash and I think the plug on the sump black if I remember is oil temp, nothing to connect it to. I think that's all right it's been a while, I'm sure someone will correct me lol

GaryS
02-05-2012, 19:40
Ok next question :)

i took my ht leads off ages ago and now dont know what goes where, help please :)

SCHWARTZ
02-05-2012, 20:57
I think the dizzy cap or white plastic thing has the plug numbers stamped on it IIRC.

sieger
02-05-2012, 21:11
tomorrow evening i can take a look for you.
:)

GaryS
02-05-2012, 22:54
thanks people

GaryS
18-05-2012, 20:30
Hello again :)

Is the cooling system self bleeding?

Can i connect my std temp guage to the engine? if so where?

Thanks :)

sieger
18-05-2012, 20:48
Hello again :)

Is the cooling system self bleeding?

Can i connect my std temp guage to the engine? if so where?

Thanks :)

depends how you connect the cooling circuit, i always put pressure on the exp tank.

you can you your std gauge, it is located just above thermostat. it only sees to much on the gauge.

SCHWARTZ
18-05-2012, 20:53
Use your standard gauge and swap the sensor for the one on the c1j.;)

GaryS
19-05-2012, 22:23
Right car is on its wheels! :D

now, the starter motor is just spinning and not engaging ?

also i cannot hear the fuel pump priming ?

help! its so close to starting i hope:)

cheers.

GaryS
22-05-2012, 18:18
Fuel pump wiring? help :confused:

GaryS
22-05-2012, 19:15
Right, wire help i have,

Thick grey
grey + red
orange
blue + brown
green

what goes where as ive read so many different posts on here and im lost, i have no fuel pumping :(

Thanks

SCHWARTZ
22-05-2012, 19:39
Pm for ya fella, something Andy sent me ages ago tells ya all you need to know;)

GaryS
22-05-2012, 20:30
White / blue wire? cant see that one? :crap:

SCHWARTZ
22-05-2012, 21:14
The pump didn't prime on cranking, does it when you stop.

Markey Mark (BD)
23-05-2012, 15:40
Right, wire help i have,

Thick grey
grey + red
orange
blue + brown
green

what goes where as ive read so many different posts on here and im lost, i have no fuel pumping :(

Thanks

Sounds like you got an early loom on your car mate

From what remember (done one little while ago in Clio)
-Grey = 12v ignition
-Grey/Red = fuel pump
-Orange = cranking 12v
-Blue/Brown = rev gauge

Will double check but sure that was it

GaryS
23-05-2012, 22:48
cheers people, help me ;)

Thanks

GaryS
25-05-2012, 18:39
I have fuel pumping! and a relay clicking! but not even trying to fire up :( :D

SCHWARTZ
25-05-2012, 19:11
Do you have a spark? When mine didn't fire up it was due to the injector harness and the loom where they met a pin had been pushed in worth a shot.

GaryS
25-05-2012, 19:27
I will have alook tomorrow cheers. Im off out to the pub now to sit in the garden and have a cold beer or two ;)

Cheers.

GaryS
26-05-2012, 17:37
IT started!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool::cool:

but my rad dont get warm but my header tank does it burns my hand :confused:

also if i unplug my idle control valve it runs much better :confused:

GaryS
26-05-2012, 17:58
Ive done mine like Haz said in another post,

cant find any pics atm, assumin your usin std volvo bits and the gtt header and gtt rad. on the back of the head there's a pipe with 3 outlets.
largest goes to heater matrix lower port, back out of top into header tank nearest port, out of other side to metal pipe that runs round front of block.
highest one goes to top port of header tank, self bleeding.
bottom one goes to lower of turbo ports, out other side and back into metal pipe round block

But i have no heater matrix so ive gone from the large outlet on the head to my header then the other header pipe to the pipe which runs around the block. Also ive done the outlet of the turbo to the pipe that connects to the rad.

I only ran the car for a few mins and my header tank was hot! but how ling should i let it run for to give the rad a chance?

Thanks.

GaryS
27-05-2012, 19:39
Anyone help me? :)

SCHWARTZ
27-05-2012, 20:20
Mines basicly the same, but the turbo goes to the outlet in the metal pipe that goes roubd the block by the oil filter. Is your stat New?

GaryS
27-05-2012, 20:55
My stat aint new, can i chuck it in some boiling water to test it?

markg
27-05-2012, 21:02
Yep, put it in a pan of hot water and see if it opens. :agree: Of course you may also want to use a thermometer to check its opening at the right temperature as well.

GaryS
27-05-2012, 22:38
I best stick the kettle on then ;)

SCHWARTZ
28-05-2012, 11:37
The herder tank will get hot first as hot water from the head will go there first, the stat should open after about 10mins keep feeling the hose from stat to rad to feel when it starts getting hot. Then leave it and keep an eye on the temp checking the rad is hot at the top (no airlocks) and that the fan cuts in. Have you fitted the temp sensor from the c1j for the gauge? If so it should go to the 11o'c line then the fan cut in. If you're using the Volvo sensor it will be at the slats when the fan should kick in.

GaryS
28-05-2012, 20:46
What about my idle control valve?

SCHWARTZ
28-05-2012, 21:51
What about it:scratch::laugh:

GaryS
28-05-2012, 21:58
haha :p

it runs better with it unplugged than it does when plugged in ???? :cooter:

SCHWARTZ
28-05-2012, 22:17
Strange, I know when unplugged they idle higher. I don't run one but I wouldn't sudgest it as I will be going back to using one. Maybe your throttle body needs adjusting, but I'm just clutching at straws really does it idle slow when plugged in then?

GaryS
28-05-2012, 23:00
It just runs smoother when unplugged , idle didnt slow but i will check tomorrow to make sure. How do you adjust the throttle bodie? ive fitted a 2.0 jobbie.

SCHWARTZ
29-05-2012, 07:50
There's a brass screw under a plastic cap, but if that cap is still there chances are its never been adjusted so leave it. The icv itself may be at fault, but I have no idea how you would test it.

GaryS
29-05-2012, 19:12
Next questions ;)

Rev counter, ive read it connects to pin 8? on the clocks but which of the 3 plugs is it on the dials?

Also i think i just boiled my water :( thermo must be stuck.

It takes a good few cranks to get it started is that because i anit changed my pump yet?

Thanks.

Markey Mark (BD)
29-05-2012, 19:32
Next questions ;)

Rev counter, ive read it connects to pin 8? on the clocks but which of the 3 plugs is it on the dials?

Also i think i just boiled my water :( thermo must be stuck.

It takes a good few cranks to get it started is that because i anit changed my pump yet?

Thanks.

Connect the wire from the Volvo plug to the rev counter wire on the original AEI unit plug. Thats how i've done rev gauge before and works fine :agree:

SCHWARTZ
29-05-2012, 19:35
Follow the train tracks to the tacho that's the plug. Get a new stat my first one opened up when in a pan of boiling water but not in kettle water. You need a bigger pump golf gti pump good for 18psi.

GaryS
31-05-2012, 19:48
Sorted the cooling system, fitted a new stat and it still boiled out the header tank. So i took the top rad hose off and had now water there so i pumped it loads of times and now its sorted.



The next thing is that the idle is all over the shop what can i do to try and fix it? :)

Oh and here is a quick pic :)

Ashy
31-05-2012, 20:14
Looks really good mate, any pics of how you've mounted the ECU?

GaryS
31-05-2012, 20:29
Cheers :)

They are not mounted yet but they are in the shuttle area and will be mounted on some black perspex painted black, thats the plan. I have the chrome shuttle covers aswell to cover it all up and going to stick the 'volvo 480 Turbo' badges on the covers. :)

SCHWARTZ
31-05-2012, 21:03
Looks good matey. In regards to the idle you don't have a dump valve fitted or bleed valve basicly anything that means the engine can get un-metered air in?
Are you on std injectors etc...?

GaryS
31-05-2012, 23:17
Nope no dv or anything fitted and I'm on std injectors. Dirty injectors?

SCHWARTZ
01-06-2012, 06:54
How bad is the idle? Are you letting it get up to temp? Could just do with a good blast to clear everything out.

GaryS
02-06-2012, 18:31
Just sounds if its missing, trys to cut out. im letting it get up to temp and when the fan comes on it nearly stalls itself.

SCHWARTZ
02-06-2012, 19:34
What about when you turn lights on etc... Sounds like its a voltage drop prob then. Where is the maf placed?

GaryS
03-06-2012, 19:36
When i tested my lights i dont think the voltage dropped, i will check when i fix it from my melted wire and smoke :(

My maf is just basicaly bolted on the turbo, does that make a difference?

GaryS
03-06-2012, 19:44
Oh and ive tryed Marks way of the rev gauge and i didnt work ? Whats another way or the best way to do it?

Markey Mark (BD)
04-06-2012, 11:33
Oh and ive tryed Marks way of the rev gauge and i didnt work ? Whats another way or the best way to do it?

That should work, its how i've wired up a few 5's before and they work :confused:

Markey Mark (BD)
04-06-2012, 11:35
When i tested my lights i dont think the voltage dropped, i will check when i fix it from my melted wire and smoke :(

My maf is just basicaly bolted on the turbo, does that make a difference?

Yes that will make a huge difference, try mounting the MAF as far away from the turbo as possible

SCHWARTZ
04-06-2012, 16:00
As mark says get the maf away from the turbo as the spinning blades will screw the maf signal up.

GaryS
07-06-2012, 17:49
ok found my idle prob :scared: on my charge cooler there are 2 bolt holes that go through into the cooler and i forgot to block one up so had a open hole thus bad idle ooopps.

just need to sort my melted wire prob now :( help.

GaryS
16-06-2012, 11:20
Right, do i need a different starter motor for my car i just brought a new gtt starter but that sounds like its grinding :( is there a difference with the volvo starter?

SCHWARTZ
16-06-2012, 11:57
Yeah you need a starter for the Volvo or a Clio. Do you have the 215mm flywheel? If so the starter needs more teeth. If you have the 200mm flywheel you may be able to use the gtt starter and it may need some adjustment but I don't know.

GaryS
16-06-2012, 12:39
Sorted :D moved the pin to the other hole and stuck my volvo starter on that i had off the original engine :)

Anyone need a new gtt starter :ashamed: :D

SCHWARTZ
16-06-2012, 13:21
:laugh:been there.

GaryS
11-07-2012, 22:01
Hello again people.

My car is running abit funny not quite right, the revs rise and drop every 5 seconds or so, what can i check?

Also when my cars running in my garage it stinks of petrol. :crap:

Cheers.

James5
11-07-2012, 22:14
Hello again people.

My car is running abit funny not quite right, the revs rise and drop every 5 seconds or so, what can i check?

Also when my cars running in my garage it stinks of petrol. :crap:

Cheers.


Icv

GaryS
15-07-2012, 20:05
would the icv make my car really stink of fuel while its running?

GaryS
20-07-2012, 20:37
Hello, got my car up and running again and it Stinks of fuel, i have now fitted a AFR and on tickover its reading 22.9 or something! and when i rev it up abit it drops to 16.6 ish. Please help as i have a mot tomorrow :(

Robbo
20-07-2012, 20:57
check the fuel pipe connections as mine worked loosei ended up getting proper fuel pipe clamps and not using jubilee

GaryS
20-07-2012, 21:00
mine are all new and no leaks :crap: