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r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:32
right sorting this out at the mo

now as people know these arnt for sale from most places but im sorting this.

now this really is a group buy at the mo as these will be custom made by gaz for everyone.

they are currently working on a set for me so i can show everyone but i need to get a minimum of 10 people together to get everyone a set.

so this will be a pair of adjustable front mounts for the 5 gtt phase 2.

again later on i will sort phase 1 sets out but its not possible at the mo.

heres a teaser picture :D

one to the left is for a bmw and the one to the right is a pug 205

will get a pic of a five set up in a couple of weeks when complete.

need to form a list for people wanting these

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:32
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TNT ANDY
01-02-2012, 17:39
?££?:confused:

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:47
the price is unknown at the mo but looking between £100 - £150 a pair. will update as soon as its confirmed.

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:48
i will try get the postage included in the price if i can. again bare with me.

MR PM
01-02-2012, 17:48
What sort of money are we expecting to put up?
Interested.

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r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:50
to note aswell these mounts will defently be better quality than compbrakes set :agree:

TrixNFlix
01-02-2012, 17:54
to note aswell these mounts will defently be better quality than compbrakes set :agree:

:agree: monies ready for ph1 items, if you get some time to arrange this in the future. :)

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 17:58
:agree: monies ready for ph1 items, if you get some time to arrange this in the future. :)

will do my best.:D:agree:

Brizza
01-02-2012, 18:07
f**kin deffoooo!!! :)

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 18:11
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r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 18:38
been sorting some bits tonight and we rekon we can make the adjustable mounts the same as the bmw ones as photoed! the price might be a little more.will update as soon as i know :D:agree:

turbo ted
01-02-2012, 19:09
put me down for a set phase 2

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 19:15
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r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 19:16
these will only be phase2 adjustable mounts

just so everyone knows :D:agree:

stu21t
01-02-2012, 19:24
I might b interested in a set but only if theyre adjustable like the set on the left (bmw one)
Price dependant too lol.

dangerous dave
01-02-2012, 19:55
I might b interested in a set but only if theyre adjustable like the set on the left (bmw one)
Price dependant too lol.

same... i dont wanna see the budget version, i want A-list adjustable sh1t all over the place... i dont just buy this gear for function, i buy it so people look and see mines better than theirs..

so get bad a55 spec with a bad a55 price and im in.. :agree:

D4WNO
01-02-2012, 20:06
Hiya,

Thanks for trying to arrange a group buy but just to help members feel safe with giving you cash, could you please advise in this post (and update your first post) of the below?

1) What exact prices have you come to depending on how many are bought? ie - If 10 people buy they'll be £100 a set, if only 5 people buy then £130 a set etc?

2) Is there a postage cost involved?

3) How will payment be taken exactly?

4) When will payment be taken?

5) Are guarantees and receipts provided for each of the products?

I don't want this to come across rudely, I hope you understand that we just need to protect our members and give them as much information as possible before parting with any cash :)

sammo_gtt
01-02-2012, 20:39
if they are similar to the ones on the left of picture im in :)

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 21:01
Hiya,

Thanks for trying to arrange a group buy but just to help members feel safe with giving you cash, could you please advise in this post (and update your first post) of the below?

1) What exact prices have you come to depending on how many are bought? ie - If 10 people buy they'll be £100 a set, if only 5 people buy then £130 a set etc?

2) Is there a postage cost involved?

3) How will payment be taken exactly?

4) When will payment be taken?

5) Are guarantees and receipts provided for each of the products?

I don't want this to come across rudely, I hope you understand that we just need to protect our members and give them as much information as possible before parting with any cash :)


hey thats fine :agree: all payments are done through paypal and go direct so i dont see anyones money only address`s to post etc any help from you would be great.wana set this up properly for everyone.all prices are fixed prices other than the adjustable mounts as i dont have a fixed price yet. and there are no cash deals so all through paypal.secure for both sides then.and recipts are sent with the coilovers for the warranty etc. anything i have to change or add please pm me and let me know :D

cheers

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 21:02
if they are similar to the ones on the left of picture im in :)


thats what we are working on ;):agree: somthin a bit special!

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 21:04
same... i dont wanna see the budget version, i want A-list adjustable sh1t all over the place... i dont just buy this gear for function, i buy it so people look and see mines better than theirs..

so get bad a55 spec with a bad a55 price and im in.. :agree:

working on it buddy.so shall i add you to the list? :)

r5_scotty
01-02-2012, 21:05
I might b interested in a set but only if theyre adjustable like the set on the left (bmw one)
Price dependant too lol.


no worries as said working on it :) shall i add you to the list?

dangerous dave
01-02-2012, 21:13
working on it buddy.so shall i add you to the list? :)

you can put me on list 1.. :)

if however its not all super spec etc i could bail as i have a full respray coming up.. i'll only break the bank for the best:D

tiff_lee
01-02-2012, 21:15
Just for information and I know a design hasn't been set on yet but the ones on the right foul the chassis when being rotated unless you modify where it bolts onto the car, the solution would be a reversed type mount where the protruding part which holds the bearing is on the underside.

Also kudos for taking the time to organise this for others.

Ian S
01-02-2012, 21:47
Will they make drop links to correct the wishbone and track rod angle on a lowered car?

Ian S
01-02-2012, 21:48
Scott are you the chap who bought Brads grey 5GTT?

Did you try the 250lb / inch springs and Koni shocks that were on there?

Harri
02-02-2012, 04:58
Definetly interested,as long as the price stays decent, they fit std phase2 setup (w/o coilovers) and can be posted to Finland at sensible extra cost.

Thanks for trying to organize this

jaffa
02-02-2012, 07:46
interested when u have a finish product i can have a look over....well done pal :agree:

Brizza
02-02-2012, 08:28
interested when u have a finish product i can have a look over....well done pal :agree:


ahhh... given in i see to persistant badgering ;)

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 17:42
Just for information and I know a design hasn't been set on yet but the ones on the right foul the chassis when being rotated unless you modify where it bolts onto the car, the solution would be a reversed type mount where the protruding part which holds the bearing is on the underside.

Also kudos for taking the time to organise this for others.


no worries will look into it :):agree: cheers for the heads up!

and thanks :D just wanted to try do my bit for the club.plus i get to meet a few people on here:agree: theres nothing in it for me,but least we all can get the kit at a great price! hope everyone is happy with there purchases!

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 17:44
Will they make drop links to correct the wishbone and track rod angle on a lowered car?


not sure? will look into this later on as i have alot on my plate with what im trying to organise for everyone at the mo. and im not the most organised person lol but doing my best :D:agree: so once the top mounts are done i will look into for us.

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 17:46
Scott are you the chap who bought Brads grey 5GTT?

Did you try the 250lb / inch springs and Koni shocks that were on there?


yes i did. still got them konis they were mint on my car! coming off soon for my gaz coilover kit :D

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 17:50
Definetly interested,as long as the price stays decent, they fit std phase2 setup (w/o coilovers) and can be posted to Finland at sensible extra cost.

Thanks for trying to organize this


hopefully i should be able to post worldwide :agree: and the extra postage cost shouldnt be to much.will look into it closer to the time when these are made and complete buddy.and i may be being stupid but - w/o coilovers? - can you explain more?


no worries my pleasure! im enjoying sorting this. talking to loads of people :D:agree:

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 17:52
interested when u have a finish product i can have a look over....well done pal :agree:


yea no worries jaffa will get the pics up as soon as there done! just keep your eyes open on the thread in a few weeks :agree:

been told that you may want some coilovers to :D maybe? lol

SCHWARTZ
02-02-2012, 19:07
yes i did. still got them konis they were mint on my car! coming off soon for my gaz coilover kit :D

If you want to sell the 250lbs springs give me a shout matey.;)

Ian S
02-02-2012, 19:15
yes i did. still got them konis they were mint on my car! coming off soon for my gaz coilover kit :DYes, the springs were mine originally. I specified them and had them made.

Have you tried Gaz yet?

I only ask as the consensus over the years amongst members of this club is that the Gaz, Avo, Leda invariably disappoint, unless for track use.

I forget why now, maybe they are just unusably hard for road use.

I've been in a 5GTT with stupidly hard Avos and only for a few hundred yards. That was more than enough.

As you know from what you currently have, those 250lb / inch springs give quite a hard ride. But the Konis are fairly soft and move with bumps and holes so the ride is bearable and remains stable.

If the dampers are set to be more or less, non moving, then the tyres are the only suspension and the car gets bounced around and you have to drive slower.

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 19:35
Yes, the springs were mine originally. I specified them and had them made.

Have you tried Gaz yet?

I only ask as the consensus over the years amongst members of this club is that the Gaz, Avo, Leda invariably disappoint, unless for track use.

I forget why now, maybe they are just unusably hard for road use.

I've been in a 5GTT with stupidly hard Avos and only for a few hundred yards. That was more than enough.

As you know from what you currently have, those 250lb / inch springs give quite a hard ride. But the Konis are fairly soft and move with bumps and holes so the ride is bearable and remains stable.

If the dampers are set to be more or less, non moving, then the tyres are the only suspension and the car gets bounced around and you have to drive slower.

yea iv had secondhand gaz coilovers befor and i loved them! i had a softer spring on them but the konis are bloody good and the car corners well! but i preffer a stiffer ride pluss i can then lower the front of my five a little as it sits high with them on.plus on the gaz setup the dampening is ajustable so i can adjust them to suit what i want :agree:

Ian S
02-02-2012, 19:55
Don't make the mistake about adjustable. Those Konis are rebound adjustable aren't they? Koni told me the idea is that you start on soft and turn up the rebound setting as they wear.

Adjustable is the 6 or 8 way adjustable KYB or Koni sport, etc. Those might still be twin tubes and so even better I would think are the monotubes such as the better Bilsteins and the KYB ultra SR. I would call these 'proper' dampers. But they're not adjustable. Nor are they 'coil over'. I presume monotubes can be if you pay enough.

The 'coil overs' do have those nice advantages and, being thin, allow some outward offset to compensate for having lowered the car. It's easy to try different spring rates and get the height right.

I would not have wanted the front lower for road use than I had it with those springs as I NEEDED suspension travel as I drove FAST over bumpy roads. It's the main thing that annoys me with the Fiat and each time I drive over a country lane is a main motivation for changing to a car with taller wheels and proper suspension travel.

I found the Bilsteins to be several leagues better than the Spax I had as they have asymmetric damping. They remain firm at low speed giving the car control but move with high velocity impacts, ie, over bumps. Which is exactly what suspension should do and the Gaz, Leda, Avo, Spax style never did, as far as I know. Of course they may be much better now :)

Anyway, we can't get the better Bilstein for the 5GTT (I already asked a few years ago, well they said they MIGHT be able to supply, but maybe £500 a pair or something, so more now I'd think) or KYB (checked this week on-line) so it's a non contention. But I can get the KYB monotubes for my Fiat.

You should ask Gaz if they supply their shocks with a softer bump setting for use with a harder spring. Or the combination of the hard spring and hard bump valve might be too much. I was next going up to 300lb springs for the Konis and Koni would re valve them for those. I think Duncan Greer on here had that done with his.

r5_scotty
02-02-2012, 20:19
Don't make the mistake about adjustable. Those Konis are rebound adjustable aren't they? Koni told me the idea is that you start on soft and turn up the rebound setting as they wear.

Adjustable is the 6 or 8 way adjustable KYB or Koni sport, etc. Those might still be twin tubes and so even better I would think are the monotubes such as the better Bilsteins and the KYB ultra SR. I would call these 'proper' dampers. But they're not adjustable. Nor are they 'coil over'. I presume monotubes can be if you pay enough.

The 'coil overs' do have those nice advantages and, being thin, allow some outward offset to compensate for having lowered the car. It's easy to try different spring rates and get the height right.

I would not have wanted the front lower for road use than I had it with those springs as I NEEDED suspension travel as I drove FAST over bumpy roads. It's the main thing that annoys me with the Fiat and each time I drive over a country lane is a main motivation for changing to a car with taller wheels and proper suspension travel.

I found the Bilsteins to be several leagues better than the Spax I had as they have asymmetric damping. They remain firm at low speed giving the car control but move with high velocity impacts, ie, over bumps. Which is exactly what suspension should do and the Gaz, Leda, Avo, Spax style never did, as far as I know. Of course they may be much better now :)

Anyway, we can't get the better Bilstein for the 5GTT (I already asked a few years ago, well they said they MIGHT be able to supply, but maybe £500 a pair or something, so more now I'd think) or KYB (checked this week on-line) so it's a non contention. But I can get the KYB monotubes for my Fiat.

You should ask Gaz if they supply their shocks with a softer bump setting for use with a harder spring. Or the combination of the hard spring and hard bump valve might be too much. I was next going up to 300lb springs for the Konis and Koni would re valve them for those. I think Duncan Greer on here had that done with his.



wow thats a great bid of knowledge :eek: i will ask about the coilovers with softer settings.learning new things everyday !:agree: well if i decide to get rid of my konis i will give you a shout first. i am open to offers onthem as i do really want the gaz coilovers but i will look further into my new found knowledge ;) thanks for the info!

i know the gazcoilovers now are very highly rated and alot of people now use these so will have to give a review on them once there fitted. i know the ford boys love gaz!and you very rarly hear of any complaints.

Lewis
03-02-2012, 00:50
I might b interested in a set but only if theyre adjustable like the set on the left (bmw one)
Price dependant too lol.


Same for me..

Ian S
03-02-2012, 01:02
Down the bottom of the page: http://www.gaz-shocks.co.uk/product.html

GAZ GOLD MONOTUBE

Coming soon

r5_scotty
03-02-2012, 18:46
Down the bottom of the page: http://www.gaz-shocks.co.uk/product.html

GAZ GOLD MONOTUBE

Coming soon


should be able to get these to.please dont pm me on these yet tho lol one thing at a time!

r5_scotty
03-02-2012, 19:09
should be able to get these to.please dont pm me on these yet tho lol one thing at a time! they will be released late summer as there is still extensive work going on ,on these. so will post a thread as soon as there avalible.

r5_scotty
03-02-2012, 19:10
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Brizza
06-02-2012, 08:25
any more news on these?

r5_scotty
06-02-2012, 09:43
give us a chance brizza :D its going to be a least 2 wweks befor there is and example to show everyone. there a big company and very busy. i will update as soon as theres info to tell people.

Brizza
23-02-2012, 14:15
*bump* :) any more news?

r5_scotty
28-03-2012, 19:59
right an update 1st set didnt go so well. has anyone got a set of compbrake top mounts? only warren down at gaz has tried ordering some with no luck. apparently there not doing so well. so his after a pair of compbrake top mounts to see if he can re work them. any help would be mint. doing our best on these!

cheers