C2L head chamber try

[dann]

Hello.:)

Here put pics of one C2L Head with chamber worked like Group A ...

Original Volume = 36,6cm3
Modified Volume = 38,0cm3

I hope like!!:agree:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Any benefit using a C2L head over a C1J head?

[Alex]

More compression so more responsive off boost but more chance of det?

[Tony Walker]

valves bigger?

[dann]

hello....

no no no...

I put the pictures to show the work in the chambers....thats all.:)

The Head of the C2L have no benefit.

I use the piston has a shaft in the head,unlike 1397cc renault turbo pistons.

This engine is a 1565cc

stroke 84 x 77

give time and i put a C2L turbo piston...

[Tony Walker]

ah i c :D sounds interesting :D

[Markey Mark (BD)]

hello....

no no no...

I put the pictures to show the work in the chambers....thats all.:)

The Head of the C2L have no benefit.

I use the piston has a shaft in the head,unlike 1397cc renault turbo pistons.

This engine is a 1565cc

stroke 84 x 77

give time and i put a C2L turbo piston...

Does sound an interesting build you got going there :agree:

[dann]

hahaa,,thanks...!!:):)

Here we have no the developed parts that you have,,,, parts like Piper cams....
Or the parts is too expensive here.

I think here you could take much more than us.. :cry: hahah....

look at the crankshaft, this has 8 counterweights, and 1397 has only 4

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8725/dscn2949z.jpg

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/8244/dscn2950e.jpg

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here the pistons...look at the head...
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8558/dscn2954w.jpg

and the.... I dont know how named in English....hha ha :( ooohh yeaahhh LINERS?? no steel made...:cry:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4593/dscn2955.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/462/dscn2956a.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6271/dscn2957vg.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8973/dscn2958v.jpg

[Tony Walker]

Fantastic work, keep it up :D maybe you could pick up a cam when u guys come for our national day :P

[dann]

Fantastic work, keep it up :D maybe you could pick up a cam when u guys come for our national day :P

Thanks Tony Walker !!!:)

haha ... I love to go .... you never know .... I am far .... and my English is very bad .... haha but you never know ... maybe I can travel .. :D:agree: i have to save money... yeah!:)


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[Sparkie]

we never got the c2L here, only in south america and turkey i believe.

re cams :

if carriage from brasil costs less for you, then these guys:

http://www.daluz-racing.com.br/

are a catcams dealer.

see

www.catcams.be (http://www.catcams.be)

for their choice of meaty cams.....

[dann]

we never got the c2L here, only in south america and turkey i believe.

re cams :

if carriage from brasil costs less for you, then these guys:

http://www.daluz-racing.com.br/

are a catcams dealer.

see

www.catcams.be (http://www.catcams.be)

for their choice of meaty cams.....

thanks Sparkie!! this is a very valuable information :)

I send an Email....

I have to ask.... is the piper cam 285 = Cat Cams 285? be the same...?

Thanks mates!!!:D

[Andrew Cooke]

http://www.rtoc.org/cam/?cam=Piper+285&lsa=&cam2=BB+5500327&lsa2=&rocker=1.5&advance=0&vc=0.2

since you have a bigger engine the cat cam (5500327) should work well for you (I assume you will be using a bigger turbo). I don't know if they will sell it as it used to be exclusive.

Do you live at altitude?

With the 78mm piston you might be able to de-shroud the valves (I tried to find a nice link explaining, but failed).

[pascal-GT]

have you a pics of the engine bloc?;)

[pascal-GT]

the 84 crank whith c1j bloc engine,the passage is weak:rolleyes:

http://images.imagehotel.net/8j117po5gc.jpg

http://images.imagehotel.net/5e3ziwc9zx.jpg

[Woznaldo]

How much material needs to be removed to allow the crank to rotate cleanly without contact? Do you need to factor in thermal expansion?

[Tony Walker]

perhaps allow for some bearing wear too? altho oil pressure should centralise it.

[dann]

http://www.rtoc.org/cam/?cam=Piper+285&lsa=&cam2=BB+5500327&lsa2=&rocker=1.5&advance=0&vc=0.2

since you have a bigger engine the cat cam (5500327) should work well for you (I assume you will be using a bigger turbo). I don't know if they will sell it as it used to be exclusive.

Do you live at altitude?

With the 78mm piston you might be able to de-shroud the valves (I tried to find a nice link explaining, but failed).

Hello Andrew... it's not my engine...is 1 work i have to do for...
Mi engine is a 1397cc .... here is too common engine the 1565cc.

Piper cam 285 is peak lift 9.955 and the BB5500327 is 9.61 , dont understand why the "327" will work better with bigger turbos ?

Thanks Andrew :agree:

[dann]

have you a pics of the engine bloc?;)

Yes Sr.

here ... you are right! de Bloc is worked (modification) at factory...to allow the crankshaft...

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3391/dscn2965f.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8981/dscn2966o.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5678/dscn2967q.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8848/dscn2969x.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8_vkKJQkJbw/SaRXpBSonWI/AAAAAAAAAUo/aYz5X2Fw3UY/s320/drogado.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3253/dscn2970g.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2789/dscn2971n.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5664/dscn2973n.jpg

go sleep engine!!gooo..!!
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1429/dscn2974l.jpg

take care of yours fingers!! hahaa.... it's hurts!! i know... :disagree: :laugh: hhaha
http://www.youtube.com/v/itgC91tYGdA

:agree:

[Sparkie]

Good old Renault!

take one block, attack with:

http://www.impresstools.com/Product-small/270113.jpg

and you get:


http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8848/dscn2969x.jpg

:laugh:

[dann]

http://www.impresstools.com/Product-small/270113.jpg


Hahahaa.....!!! That's the RENAULT TOOLS --M.O.T 144293-12 ? --- hahaha:wasntme:

I have a Clio C2L Bloc in Home and I take photos of that bloc...

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