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just read the unofficial list that will come in january they will be advisories up to april then will come in full affect have a look round on the web see if anyones posted em worth a look cause a lot relevent to older and modified cars....i will grab the paperwork from work and get it posted when i remember.
just read the unofficial list that will come in january they will be advisories up to april then will come in full affect have a look round on the web see if anyones posted em worth a look cause a lot relevent to older and modified cars....i will grab the paperwork from work and get it posted when i remember.
Things like what ?
No warning lights on the dash, and supposedly your not allowed a chip/modified ECU but im guessing that would be one ones which are taxed against emissions
autodata have a new chart that lists all the warning lights that are shown on the dashboards on all cars up to about 10 or 15years ago (i think) - with instructions on how to see the lights and how soon they should go out etc. - bad news for renault laguna owners and their TPMS sensors.....
besides the fitting of non OE HID's being made a MOT failure, i know they will also need to check any cars with tow bars on, to see if the socket is ok.
Tony Walker
16-11-2011, 21:49
Good news for tyre fitting renault specialists that can code new valves :cooter:
No warning lights on the dash, and supposedly your not allowed a chip/modified ECU but im guessing that would be one ones which are taxed against emissions
If the MIL is present it will fail.
As Sparkie said non oem HIDs will be a fail - unless you have a headlight wash system installed along with the ride height sensor on the chassis.
There is something to do with suspension and lowered cars, I'll find out more over the next couple of days.
There is even a proposal to fail cars that don't have oe specified wheels fitted!
autodata have a new chart that lists all the warning lights that are shown on the dashboards on all cars up to about 10 or 15years ago (i think) - with instructions on how to see the lights and how soon they should go out etc. - bad news for renault laguna owners and their TPMS sensors.....
besides the fitting of non OE HID's being made a MOT failure, i know they will also need to check any cars with tow bars on, to see if the socket is ok.
tpms are only gonna be tested on 2012 cars onward m8 so we wont see em till 2015 so hopefully renault will have sorted it by then ;)
hid job is gonna be a tester descrection its not jus tthe lamp sfor pateern and aim but they need a cleaning system and levelling system that may ruin it for the taxis drivers by me lol :laugh:
If the MIL is present it will fail.
As Sparkie said non oem HIDs will be a fail - unless you have a headlight wash system installed along with the ride height sensor on the chassis.
There is something to do with suspension and lowered cars, I'll find out more over the next couple of days.
There is even a proposal to fail cars that don't have oe specified wheels fitted!
not seen anything regarding the last 2 you mentioned m8...i will grab the new list and post on here.
Jaff are you a tester then? If so I'm in the process of becoming one too :D
The last two I mentioned were 'proposed' ideas by VOSA, so that could go either way.
Tpms will be fitted on every car from Sept/Oct 2012.
:agree:
Heres part of the email that I was copied in from a friend at VOSA:
Implications for modified vehicles
Wiring condition and, possibly of greater concern
Mudguards(wings), spray suppression devices.
Visual inspection
(a) Missing,loose or badly corroded
(b) Insufficient clearance to road wheel
(c) Not in accordance with the requirements.
Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegally modified.
(b) Illegal engine modifications.
Its not technically pointing towards lowered cars but part (b) is again up to the testers discretion.
phase i 16 v turbo
17-11-2011, 08:27
They are also bringing in testing tow-bars and their electrics.
They are also bringing in testing tow-bars and their electrics.
Thats been for a while as we are selling the test units for tow bar electrics.
Heres part of the email that I was copied in from a friend at VOSA:
Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegally modified.
(b) Illegal engine modifications.
Define illegal.
as above, what the hell does illegally modifed engine or ecu mean?
i stole the parts???!!!!
load of tripe!
If they are down on your insurance I can't see any way of them being illegal.... unless of course a list of mods get sent to the MOT from insurers :confused:
Dangerous I can see but that could be a grey area as well if left to the MOT mans discretion :crap:
From an MOT point of view the illegality would refer to if the control modules are within factory/oe specification.
Not sure about the other part...yet.
There are plans to electronically interrogate vehicles at MOTs I will explain more when I know more.
:agree:
Matt Cole
17-11-2011, 22:28
So what if your oe carb is removed and you fit an ecu?
[quote=Spooky;242292]Heres part of the email that I was copied in from a friend at VOSA:
Implications for modified vehicles
Wiring condition and, possibly of greater concern
Mudguards(wings), spray suppression devices.
Visual inspection
(a) Missing,loose or badly corroded
(b) Insufficient clearance to road wheel
(c) Not in accordance with the requirements.
Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegally modified.
(b) Illegal engine modifications.
Its not technically pointing towards lowered cars but part (b) is again up to the testers discretion.[/quote
visible wiring is deffo in there m8 but nonne of the others that i am aware of.:)
Jaff are you a tester then? If so I'm in the process of becoming one too :D
The last two I mentioned were 'proposed' ideas by VOSA, so that could go either way.
Tpms will be fitted on every car from Sept/Oct 2012.
:agree:
yeah 16 years pal...and still going strong ;)
Quiet-Pete
19-11-2011, 10:37
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
just to ask about this guys.. i herd that having a screamer pipe will fail ur m.o.t, yet the tester (i hope) would never rev ur car to the point it opens, bt if he was to see it and know what it was/did could he still fail u ??
Junglist
21-11-2011, 19:11
This might help although its aimed at the bfg test it incorporates the same principles as the mot.
Steering
The law requires that vehicles are fitted with some sort of anti-theft mechanism as minimum security protection. Commonly, this is achieved by use of steering locks, transmission locks or gearshift locks. Where a steering lock mechanism is fitted as standard, testers must now check if one is present and operational.
Steering system
Previously suspension ball joint dust covers that were missing or split was not a failure and only an Advisory. With the changes to the inspection manual these items will now be included in the test – so if a ball joint dust cover is missing or no longer keeps the dirt out, testers will be able to fail the vehicle.
Sub-section 2.2D of the Inspection Manual covers the steering lock-to-lock check, and will now also cover any significant oil leaks from the steering box and whether any ‘fitted as standard’ steering lock stops are missing.
Power steering
Checks to power steering will now include a check of the fluid level. However, as there is no need to remove the reservoir cap, the check will only apply where the fluid level is visible in the reservoir.
Any inappropriate repair or modification to a power steering component will result in a failure – so a pair of tights in place of the drive belt will not be acceptable! The serious misalignment or fouling of power steering components is also a Reason for Rejection (RfR).
The inspection of fluid pipes for damage and fouling will now also include excessive corrosion. If a malfunction indicator lamp – fitted to warn the driver of a problem with electronic power steering – is illuminated, indicating a failure in the system, this will be an RfR.
Suspension, wheel bearings and drive shafts
Modified or repaired suspension components that are classed as unacceptable repairs to the tester will be an RfR.
All front drive shafts and those at the rear that form part of the suspension are already inspected, however, as a result of the Directive, a tester will also have to check, where fitted, support bearings for excessive wear, and drive shaft inner coupling gaiters that are missing. The RfR for gaiters has also been changed to cover all aspects of the gaiter failing to keep the dirt out.
Front to rear propshafts still remain outside the scope of the test
Parking brake lever mechanism and associated mountings
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB) controls have been added to this section, and testers will have to make sure that all parking brake controls have not been ‘inappropriately repaired or modified’. This has been defined as:
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‘When the repair is obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or if any modification has seriously weakened the component’.
If the vehicle is fitted with an EPB, testers must also check that the EPB warning lamp does not indicate a fault.
Service brake control
As before, testers will have to check that the control has not been inappropriately repaired or modified.
Anti-lock braking systems
Included under this section are checks to any Electronic Stability Control (ESC) system fitted – called variously ESC, Electronic Stability Programme (ESP), Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), etc.
The new checks will cover the condition of ABS/ESC components (which are generally common to both systems), electrical wiring, the ESC switch, and the presence and operation of the ESC malfunction indicator lamp.
Mechanical brake components
Additional checks of the security of brake cables, rods and joints must be made and testers will fail any mechanical brake component if it has been inappropriately repaired or modified. The condition and operation of brake slack adjusters – usually only fitted to very large vehicles with air braking systems – will also be checked.
Braking systems and additional braking devices
All Braking Systems’ will be checked for leaks, security, condition and operation. Checks for inappropriate repairs or modifications to braking system components will also be included.
As well as brake valves, there will be additional checks on load-sensing valves. Originally only checking the linkage, testers will now check if the valve itself is also:
Seized or inoperative.
Defective so that its function is impaired.
Incorrectly adjusted.
Testers already check the brake fluid level – but the brake fluid warning lamp being illuminated or inoperative will be a new RfR.
Brake performance
Another new RfR coming in at the end of 2011 is if, during a brake decelerometer test, the vehicle deviates from a straight line when the parking brake is applied.
What does this mean to you as a motor vehicle owner?
Vehicles presented at a BFG Examination Centre prior to the 1st January 2012 with a fault in any of the above areas would have "PASSED" a BFG Roadworthiness Inspection and only have been issued with an "Advisory Notice". If a vehicle is presented on or after the 1st January 2012 with the same fault it will no longer be issued with an "Advisory Notice", but instead will be an RfR.
Vehicle owners should ensure that all areas of the vehicle is kept to a high standard of repair and any faults are rectified prior to the annual BFG Roadworthiness Inspection. This will ensure that the vehicle is operated in a safe manner and it will reduce the inconvenience of it failing an inspection.
changes to the BFG/MOT Test in 2012
Gas leak detection spray to confirm an existence of a leak
Continuity of towbar 13 pin electric socket
Inappropriate towbar repairs or modifications
Catalytic converter missing
Rear passenger doors opening
All door hinges, catches and pillars
Inappropriate brake system repairs or modification
Defective ABS or ESC components
Front and rear lights single operation
Main beam warning light
Steering lock mechanism
Illumination of malfunction indicator light (MIL) for electronic power steering, electronic stability control, electronic park brake control, brake fluid warning lamp, tyre pressure monitoring system and air bag/ pre-tensioner
Driver’s seat adjustment
Speedometer
Headlamp cleaning and self-levelling if high-intensity discharge (HID) lamps are fitted
Products on the lens that reduce light output
Steering lock mechanism
Steering joint dust covers
Inappropriate steering repairs or modifications
Inappropriate steering repairs or modifications
Steering lock stops
Steering box oil leakage
Inappropriate suspension repairs or modifications
Drive shaft support bearings and coupling gaiters
Battery and wiring
Power steering oil level
Damaged or corroded power steering pipes or hose
Engine mountings
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