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tobester
08-09-2008, 20:14
Hey peeps,
I'm pretty pissed off right about now, my neighbour claims my 5 is interfering with his t.v., and is now threatening to report the car as a public nuisance as a result, this guy is very much retired/bored and will most certainly make a new career out of making my life difficult.
Anything you guys recommend i change in a vain attempt to shut the annoying tit up? I'll be changing the suppressor on the coil as a matter of course, i'm also running B9EG NGK plugs which i suspect aren't suppressed, i remember scoff recommended an alternative plug he found worked well, any ideas which it was?
Secondly, any idea how much aggro he could cause, i literally pull into the street, turn around and switch the engine off, a minute and a half at absolute most, he used to work in the local council and i'm afraid he still has some strong contacts, sorry for the essay, i hate upsetting people and i'm totally clueless about any legal issues regarding this sort of thing as i have never encountered it before.
Thanks for any advice in advance.
its the supressor on the aei unit get a new onef rom renault
Tiny Tim
08-09-2008, 20:41
Richie's right, deffinately sounds like a duff/missing suppressor.
Have a look at your AEI- where it bolts to the block, there should be a very small black plastic block with a single wire coming out that connects into the AEI.
If its missing, drop me a PM - i've got one in the garage you can have.
tonesGTT
08-09-2008, 21:19
Wow, that is very bored and retired! Sounds like a proper Victor Meldrew!
Go chuck a brick through his TV, see how that interfere's with it!:eek:;)
They'll turn the analogue signal off soon, then he'll really be angry! :D
tobester
08-09-2008, 22:18
i made sure it was fitted when i relocated the AEI, i 'll check if i have a spare, if i don't Tim your offer will be much appreciated!!
tobester
08-09-2008, 22:24
Wow, that is very bored and retired! Sounds like a proper Victor Meldrew!
The guy is lost for stuff to do, he's going to "take action" if i've not got it sorted by sunday, i'd like to shut him up by sorting it, i much prefer the quiet life.
You could also try better ignition leads.
What are you using?
Magnecore are supposed to be very good at suppression.
You'd need all 5 leads to be sure.
tobester
08-09-2008, 23:52
You could also try better ignition leads.
What are you using?
Magnecore are supposed to be very good at suppression.
You'd need all 5 leads to be sure.
I'm using megaleads, no complaints before i rebuilt the engine and the same leads, might just replace them anyway if the suppressor doesn't work.
I am having a smilair problem with 1 of my neighbours got new suprresor, magnecor leads, and new sparkies and still it is apparently interfearing with my neighbours TV who lives 5 houses away yet my neighbours directly beside me do not have any problems.
tobester
09-09-2008, 00:19
hmmm, same story, he seems to be the only one round here, has your neighbour threatened any "actions". Will change leads and plugs and the suppressor, if that doesn't do it for him i'll just await his next move.
car.crash
09-09-2008, 00:43
i cant see what they are going to do about it, if its noise complaint then they can make u quiet the car down but i dont see how they can proove your car is doing his tv, tell him his tv is messing with your car and your going to have the rtoc side exit boys round for meets on a sunday morning perfectly legal.
I was once quite a prolific radio amateur, not so much these days, the hobby's turned to ****. anyway..
I used to run a alot of radio gear years ago and caused inteference to one particular guy's TV. He didn't come and speak to me about it, instead he went and reported me to the department of trade and industry, who at the time dealt with this kind of thing. They turned up at my house un-expected, with a van full of test equiptment, I made them a brew and we sat for an hour testing the output of all my transmitters, all of which were fine (ofcourse, I'd made them :D )
Anyway, upshot was that matey boy down the road who'd paid bug bucks to have these guys come out received a letter informing him that my equiptment was fine and inside my licence conditions and that his TV receiver was most likely sub-standard :D
He moved house 2 weeks later. I'd have thought buying a new TV might have been cheaper :rolleyes:
Anyway, point is, in the case of TV inteference, there is just asmuch chance that the TV is at fault and not your car.
dave j gtt
09-09-2008, 05:49
i cant see what they are going to do about it, if its noise complaint then they can make u quiet the car down but i dont see how they can proove your car is doing his tv, tell him his tv is messing with your car and your going to have the rtoc side exit boys round for meets on a sunday morning perfectly legal.
that depends on where you got your side exit. my tiger ktec jobbie is ilegal :cry:
i think what scoff says is prob most accurate, i think the guy needs new cable to his dish or arial :crap:
if someone has theatened you. call his bluff and say your gonna report him for harrasment and having a dodgy arial :laugh:
go out and see him and pretend to read somthing while talking to him :coffee: little like that . and state you beleive its his prob and state whats said above.:smokin:
Guybrush
09-09-2008, 09:18
that depends on where you got your side exit. my tiger ktec jobbie is ilegal :cry:
is there such a thing as an illeagal exhaust.
it'll fail the mot if the tester thinks the noise produced is excessive for the type of vehicle (or some such crap).
i'm pretty such there's not a dB limit for the roads.... for racing there is (check the blue book ;) )
I was once quite a prolific radio amateur, not so much these days, the hobby's turned to ****. anyway..
Still got a load of QSL cards??:agree:
The new Bill J
09-09-2008, 12:45
that depends on where you got your side exit. my tiger ktec jobbie is ilegal :cry:
Who told you that?
dave j gtt
09-09-2008, 13:18
police stated no more noise than 101 db
was front page news 2 weeks ago round here.
they police were doing spot checks and they had several people who had n/a cars that had failed one being a vectra that was 102 db :scared: :eek:
Tiny Tim
09-09-2008, 13:24
Im not sure there are any specific laws regarding exhaust volume... noise pollution past certain times at night/morning, yes.
dave j gtt
09-09-2008, 13:28
Im not sure there are any specific laws regarding exhaust volume... noise pollution past certain times at night/morning, yes.
i hope i still have the paper , if so i'll picture it and post it up :crap:
laws vary on the volume of exhaust .....
to PASS mot standards it had to be less than 90dB......BUT this is not a stated fact for the road ...it is in the discretion of an officer or MOT tester to decide if its too loud...
as far as the interference goes, try leads ...
even try a sheet of mesh wire on the underside of your bonnet,,,,,if you get in a scrap yard you will find on MOST citroen BX's....
Found this from your local council:
Dear Mr X,
Thank you very much for your complaint about the modified exhaust of a fiesta mk2. This is a common problem to many people living on housing estates. Unfortunately the modification is not something that the Council can enforce, this is a police matter. With regard to pollution this should be identified during the MOT and once again is something that we can not deal with in the Council. With regard to the noise, we do not deal with decibels as a noise limit. We deal with statutory nuisance, and how something "materially effects you in your own home", it also has to have severity, frequency and duration involved. The noise must pass from one property to another e.g. like the bass of loud music. Now with regard to your exhaust problem this is a very grey area of the law and can not be determined using statutory nuisance so no formal action can be taken by the Council. However if you provide us with the car registration, location of the vehicle and the address of the resident I am more than happy to report it to the Police and write them an informal letter explaining that they are disturbing their neighbours (you will remain anonymous) with their modified exhausts and that we have reported them to the DVLA and Police. This is all the action we can take. We will not be able to follow it up under statutory nuisance.
Many thanks for your enquiry.
Kind Regards,
Bracknell Forest Borough Council
Still got a load of QSL cards??:agree:
LOL, no, I wasn't into that malarky, HF is too easy. I built microwave transmitters and receivers, I was into fast data connections (before the internet did it all for you) and full bandwidth FM television on 10GHz and above. I wasn't interested in anything below 1.2 GHz.
Andrew Cooke
10-09-2008, 19:46
LOL, no, I wasn't into that malarky, HF is too easy. I built microwave transmitters and receivers, I was into fast data connections (before the internet did it all for you) and full bandwidth FM television on 10GHz and above. I wasn't interested in anything below 1.2 GHz.
3cm from the top of a mountain? http://www.flickr.com/photos/91098242@N00/ Richard has some strange hobbies..
anyway, does your car interfere with your TV, go around to a some friends houses, does your car interfere with their TVs, does your car interfere with any of your other neighbours TVs? Does your car interfere with your radio?
LOL, no, I wasn't into that malarky, HF is too easy. I built microwave transmitters and receivers, I was into fast data connections (before the internet did it all for you) and full bandwidth FM television on 10GHz and above. I wasn't interested in anything below 1.2 GHz.
Fair play Sir; I still have all mine in a drawer somewhere...:laugh:
And looking at the kit you were playing with, your talents grossly exceeded mine:agree:
Andrew Cooke
10-09-2008, 20:10
do you have a radar detector?
markey b
11-09-2008, 00:30
my car does the same to our tv at home... but only on digital channels...
changed my supressor but still no change.. will prob purchase a new one as the replacement was probably just as shot as the one i peeled off
Guybrush
11-09-2008, 00:53
police stated no more noise than 101 db
was front page news 2 weeks ago round here.
they police were doing spot checks and they had several people who had n/a cars that had failed one being a vectra that was 102 db :scared: :eek:
at what distance did they take the measurement, at what rpm? was it a driveby reading?
this is just crazy..... :eek:
car.crash
11-09-2008, 01:12
at what distance did they take the measurement, at what rpm? was it a driveby reading?
this is just crazy..... :eek:
similar thing happend round here around 4 years ago. lots of cars used to meet at stockley park cruise. police turned up blocked all exits and laid stingers. left one exit open for like 400 cars to go through and each car was sound checked. if we were over the so called sound limit we received a letter from the council with a noise anti social dispercial order, we were basically banned from the area between somthing like 9pm - 7am iirc. no one paid any attention to it though. one of my pals had a std diesel vectra and it failed too, so maybe it was just scare tactics by council and police.
THE MASTER
11-09-2008, 01:12
just find an old CB trasmiter AM is better. tell your naubour to sort his tv out. this one a goodun cause he will be able to hear you over the tv
scalectric is also another way to show how bad his set up is .
remove the supressor from your hoover and realy wind the booger up
:coffee:
About neighbours..i have a neighbour..who moans about everything...watches everything i do as if its illegal lol ...i just leave him to it..old ppl have nothing else to do with their lifes other than complain :laugh:
tobester
11-09-2008, 09:52
Found this from your local council:
thankfully i don't own an xr2.
tobester
11-09-2008, 09:59
my car does the same to our tv at home... but only on digital channels...
changed my supressor but still no change.. will prob purchase a new one as the replacement was probably just as shot as the one i peeled off
Well, i've changed the alternator, the dizzy cap, the rotor arm, the ignition leads, the aei, the aei suppressor, if that doesn't do him he can do what he likes.
As for my straight through exhaust, well i've not had any complaints yet, but am going to put a silencer back in, as yeah, it is just asking for trouble, no matter how nice it sounds, could enter a massy fergusson sound-a-like competition with it though :D
Andrew Cooke
11-09-2008, 13:08
keep the receipts to show anyone who turns up, you've shown more than willing to fix things. If they find it's his TV bill him for the parts you've swapped.
tobester
11-09-2008, 14:36
keep the receipts to show anyone who turns up, you've shown more than willing to fix things. If they find it's his TV bill him for the parts you've swapped.
Good idea, i bought them through the company i run, i'll take photocopies of the invoices.
I've done all i'm prepared to do, he even hinted at me getting rid of the car. Which will not happen.
Thanks for all the advice peeps, we'll see what happens now :)
Tiny Tim
11-09-2008, 14:42
keep the receipts to show anyone who turns up, you've shown more than willing to fix things. If they find it's his TV bill him for the parts you've swapped.
Amen.. personally, i'd be looking to contact the local council myself now... let him know you've replaced everything that could be a cause and that you're looking for recompence... see what he says.
tobester
11-09-2008, 15:16
Amen.. personally, i'd be looking to contact the local council myself now... let him know you've replaced everything that could be a cause and that you're looking for recompence... see what he says.
I'll see if it's stopped him whingeing first, I'll let him make the first move, even if it hasn't worked (i'm pretty confident there is something wrong with his aerial, or the reception of his t.v, both my electric polisher and die grinder sends him out complaining), I'll wait for him to make the first move, I'll explain to anyone that does get in contact the steps I have taken and the parts I have replaced, also the fact that even if it were my vehicle at fault, I'm only creating an inconvenience whilst the engine is running, and that is about 1.5 minutes from the time I enter the street to the time I switch off the engine, twice a day, an accumulated 3-4 mins at most in a 24hr period!
I have always let the car idle down the road from my street after a run to minimise the noise impact for the other residents(always have even when i had a silencer!), basically i think he's being totally unreasonable and hope whoever calls thinks the same. :scared:
Tiny Tim
11-09-2008, 15:24
Woh woh woh... your polisher and grinder affect his reception too?! Why didnt you say that in the first place... unless you're running them both off the car while its running its CLEARLY an issue with his TV... stop wasting your time, tell him to ****ing do one.
tobester
11-09-2008, 15:49
Woh woh woh... your polisher and grinder affect his reception too?! Why didnt you say that in the first place... unless you're running them both off the car while its running its CLEARLY an issue with his TV... stop wasting your time, tell him to ****ing do one.
I hate confrontation, but what you've just pointed out may lead to it, yes the die grinder and the buffer both run off the mains, and both have been mentioned by him as causing interferance. But why just me, unless of course i present myself as an easy target? :ashamed:
Have you actually seen the interference on his TV?
Could it be the acoustic noise he is finding a nuisance?
Otherwise everyone else nearby in the street who uses a small electric appliance with a motor, ie, hair dryer, drill, would be likely to have the same effect
Tiny Tim
11-09-2008, 15:58
Because you're an easy target? Tell him to jog on.
3cm from the top of a mountain? http://www.flickr.com/photos/91098242@N00/ Richard has some strange hobbies..
g4erp, he is/was a big player in the ATV world, 3cms etc. Or was he involved with ATV, maybe not now that I think about it.
I live on quite high ground, I did OK on 3cms, I used to have links all over the northwest, I ran fast data on one subcarrier, voice on another and nicam stereo on a third toward the end - all done with homebrew transmitters and receivers! RX was usually a modified sky digital LNB in a sky digi dish, main TX links were home built transmitters built from old LNB's into 60cm dishes, about 100mW would give me rock solid links to friends 30 miles away. I ran a 1w system into a horn too for general reception by a bunch of guys.
I got into trouble with the DTI at one point, we managed to put a huge blip on Clee radar's screen for about 3 months by running 100w 24hr's on 1280 MHz, they wern't very pleased. The DTI guy was laughing though, saying it had taken them a long time to work out what the transmission was since it was so wide, it was only one of their techs that "listened" to it and heard 50hz and said "ah, thats television" so plugged it upto a monitor in the van and saw my callsign :D
Anyway........ inteference...
tobester
11-09-2008, 16:18
Have you actually seen the interference on his TV?
Could it be the acoustic noise he is finding a nuisance?
Otherwise everyone else nearby in the street who uses a small electric appliance with a motor, ie, hair dryer, drill, would be likely to have the same effect
The die grinder is a small dremel type thing, i only use it on the lowest setting, my folks are watching their t.v the other side of a garage wall 3 metres away, they can't hear it and it doesn't interfere with our t.v., my neighbour lives across the street, and his living room is situated at the back of his house 25 metres away from where i'm working, the buffer is so quiet it's unreal, actually bought him out of his house within the first 5 mins of me using it for the first time straight out of the box. :S
i would go and have a cuppa with the guy.....then , sit and watch his TV with him.....
IF it is affected by anything else while you are there he has NO argumant with you....
(so get your mate to razz your car past his house while your there) and say , "SEE not just my car is it "
Northerner
11-09-2008, 16:27
Because you're an easy target? Tell him to jog on.
+1
But after spending £50k+ defending legal action from a demented neighbour, I can understand your situation.
tobester
11-09-2008, 16:49
+1
But after spending £50k+ defending legal action from a demented neighbour, I can understand your situation.
Eh? How on earth did that happen?
Im sure it will wind him up more if you just carry on what your doing and just ignoring him. Then when people come round (if they do) who are about the complaint just speak to them about it.
Well thats what i would do =]
car.crash
11-09-2008, 17:22
keep jumping out on him, then maybe he might die of shock.
keep jumping out on him, then maybe he might die of shock.
That could work! Try that b4 mine to be honest
Northerner
11-09-2008, 17:30
Eh? How on earth did that happen?
Got stitched up by our solicitor over rights of way who happend to be a good friends with the neighbour.
i had this when i had my gtt
changed everything, even knocked all other neighbours doors to ask them if they had any probs! and suprise suprise they never did
anyway i sold the car and bought a 21T
one day i was putting some stuff in the boot and had left it running
pain in the RS came out and started moaning, so i said
"what is THIS ONE ASWELL messing up your tv"
then he slipped up and said
"no none of them have its that bloody exhaust!"
i just told him to S.T.F.U. and as its just passed an mot do what you want
never heard a pip from him then, but always us'd to get the evils when sparkie came around! LOL
Andrew Cooke
11-09-2008, 17:39
g4erp, he is/was a big player in the ATV world, 3cms etc.
..
his desk is next to mine
dave j gtt
11-09-2008, 19:20
at what distance did they take the measurement, at what rpm? was it a driveby reading?
this is just crazy..... :eek:
it was on the front of the paper . i imagine it was stand still test at 4k and above :cry:
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put it down to him havng a bust arial or old cabling have had to look at this sort of thing for the place i work. as had a report of when the street ight ameon it caused interferace on this blokes telly. after going out to have a look it turned out his arial had got water in the box where the cable gose onto it. the fact that all the equipment you have mentions only affect him it will be his equipment at fault.
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The die grinder is a small dremel type thing, i only use it on the lowest setting, my folks are watching their t.v the other side of a garage wall 3 metres away, they can't hear it and it doesn't interfere with our t.v., my neighbour lives across the street, and his living room is situated at the back of his house 25 metres away from where i'm working, the buffer is so quiet it's unreal, actually bought him out of his house within the first 5 mins of me using it for the first time straight out of the box. :S
Your neighbour sounds like a right tit! He's made ME angry just reading about him!
Where's he live? I wanna go round there and use some powertools!!!!
Spend the rest of the weekend grinding and polishing stuff! :mad::)
dave j gtt
14-09-2008, 15:39
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yeah good one dave :) think i should visit him with the mothers lotus . whoo he would be very unhappy by the sound of it :) no cat = very very loud. havnt heard a car local that makes as much noise.
think am going to ND 08 in it . just a bit gutted i wont be able to take it round the track :(
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Sounds like he needs aa good shoeing, tell him to jog on:upyours2:
dave j gtt
15-09-2008, 04:32
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yeah good one dave :) think i should visit him with the mothers lotus . whoo he would be very unhappy by the sound of it :) no cat = very very loud. havnt heard a car local that makes as much noise.
think am going to ND 08 in it . just a bit gutted i wont be able to take it round the track :(
o just got it tested 120 db ouch
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