Renault 11 with supercharged F7P project

[markey b]

with the ka zetec, orange 5 and tungy 5 all done, i've been at a loose end....

i've had this beast for a while, its been sitting in my unit for months now since getting it off TNT ANDY, wasn't sure what to do but a cheap 16v clio came up so i bought it with a mate and i had the running gear and he had the shell.

currently rebuilding the block, have had pistons dished already to make it futureproof :laugh:

going to get it running n/a initially, then hopefully supercharge it once i get some funds from selling the grey OE one

[markey b]

forgot pics!

here is is buried deep...

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16802

the beast itself

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16800

new block cleaned and painted

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16803

[markey b]

got most of bottom end together last night, just waiting on a few bits and it'll be all together :agree:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16820

wiring loom will need to be fitted, luckily most of it is in one loom :)

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16821

and the organised mess :laugh:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=16822

[markey b]

more progress....

engine is now black, head black, everything black....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/1a8f3368.jpg

apart from a couple of bits

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/85901d5b.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/2a21caf1.jpg

bay is cleaned and gearbox in

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/f6635255.jpg

just waiting on a couple of parts and bottom end will be in :agree:

[TNT ANDY]

Awsome work my friend - awsome work - probably could be one of the coolest Renaults of all time. I watch with anticipation.

Watcha doing about handling?

[markey b]

Awsome work my friend - awsome work - probably could be one of the coolest Renaults of all time. I watch with anticipation.

Watcha doing about handling?

not sure yet, as i can't seem to find any springs for an 11... got 16v front brakes, gtt rear brake setup (if i can undo the bolts on the rear arm) and probably a temporary coil or two off the front

should have my 15" bbs E30 rims sat so i'll satin black them and pop them on too, wanted steels and wheel trims but these wheels are cheaper! lol

[James5]

Looking good Mark, with ref to the suspension didn't Adey on his old silver 11t fit GTT shocks to the front?

[dangerous dave]

not sure yet, as i can't seem to find any springs for an 11... got 16v front brakes, gtt rear brake setup (if i can undo the bolts on the rear arm) and probably a temporary coil or two off the front

should have my 15" bbs E30 rims sat so i'll satin black them and pop them on too, wanted steels and wheel trims but these wheels are cheaper! lol

someone on here made some coilovers, ilker? could be Schakal but can't see his pics, they is gone:crap:

[markey b]

maybe ph1 struts will fit, havn't looked yet been busy with other bits....

last nights progress....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/d407602e.jpg

pistons in, shells in, just got to fit thrust washers, oil pump and a new oil control ring on no4 piston

then thought maybe just try it for size...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/d1918f5a.jpg

ended up bodging a mount...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/d1918f5a.jpg

and then placing it together to make sure it all fitted....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/68dbeb43.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/88ad65c4.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/ff0fd1ba.jpg

and painted inlet manifold

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/8d98ba6d.jpg

no progress this eve, been out collecting parts, and sorting out a special purchase that i'll pick up on saturday..... handy andy's supercharger setup!!!! :agree::agree:

[Logg]

Love it mate. :agree::agree:

Didn't the Ewok and spook fit phase 2 GTT coilovers to a 11. slammed it to its arse and gave a nice lump of camber.

[James5]

Mark looks fantastic love the pink and black colour scheme :agree:

The pic below runs standard ECU mapped for supercharger also uses 802 injectors is running 192bhp

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/Morphius101/Red%20Falcon/IMAG0259-1.jpg (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/Morphius101/Red%20Falcon/IMAG0259-1.jpg)

[jamie_clioGTT]

looks quality mate. look forward to seeing it done.

[Spooky]

Love it mate. :agree::agree:

Didn't the Ewok and spook fit phase 2 GTT coilovers to a 11. slammed it to its arse and gave a nice lump of camber.

Yes we did :D

[Os8472]

I've got my old ph1 struts you can use to mock up with

[djinuk]

very interesting build there dude, look forward to seeing it..


u get them bits in the post btw.

[markey b]

'charger is coming sat :agree: big thanks to hAndy for letting me have it at a bargain price

couple of hours yesterday got engine out, new thrust washers in, bottom end built up with new rings, back together and torqued, sump on, flywheel and clutch on, box on and back in the hole :agree:

[markey b]

pics...

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2831

in

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2833

clio dials in

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2832

[Trevhib]

Quality :)

Btw, I don't remember seeing the finished pics of the Ka Mark. Did you post them up? I wouldn't mind seeing how it turned out :agree:

[markey b]

Quality :)

Btw, I don't remember seeing the finished pics of the Ka Mark. Did you post them up? I wouldn't mind seeing how it turned out :agree:

i dont know if i've got any more recent than these (during a detail by a mate)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/a0092a90.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/0d6a9e9d.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/5b1c2408.jpg

will be going to have exhaust re-done next week as its a massive bodge and loosing lots of power, then porsche rims painted and set of new tyres :agree:

[markey b]

bit of progress over the weekend...

chop chop

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2859

mount mounted after a bit of trimming

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2860

charger bolted in

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2861

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2862

head placed on so i can mock up wiring etc

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2863

so far so good, alt and inlet manifold fit!

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2864

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2865

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2866

[markey b]

engine is coming back out tonight and back on the stand...

I AM A RETARD!!

[sega]

What happened?

[Os8472]

What happened?

Nothing, he's just a retard ;)

[markey b]

got caps on 2 and 3 wrong way, so bottom end was seized lol

engine out this eve, sorted it and then built it all up. just need new cambelt and rocker gasket and it'll be back in hole for 3rd and final time lol

[markey b]

last nights phone pics....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/720bbe92.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/50722292.jpg

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http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/9b2c803b.jpg

[markey b]

wouldn't turn again on friday eve after putting flywheel and box on... turns out flywheel bolts from a c1j are too long! sorted it by 10pm fri night, 3:30am sat morn it was in and ready to go

had it turning on the starter yesterday, wiring almost finish, relays click, just need fuel pipe and it'll run :agree:

[markey b]

another update, pretty productive night last night..

got boost pipes made and fitted
intake adaptor made up
rad in (fan is on order due here thurs)
fuel pump fitted and wired in
engine wiring finished off

all it needs now is a coolant pipe connector, downpipe gasket, fuel lines fitting (arrived this morning) and push fan as space is tight, then we should have it running

some pics..

[markey b]

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2922

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2923

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2924

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2925

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2926

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2927

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2928

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2929

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2930

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=2931

[James5]

Mark, project is looking good. Just noted one of the pic's the ISCV is not completed? are you running it to air? I know peeps do it on the n/a car's but as your running boost you will need it completed. Otherwise your going to have a problem as you will have a hole in your boost circuit due to the ISCV, you will need to loop it back in before the TB.

[markey b]

Mark, project is looking good. Just noted one of the pic's the ISCV is not completed? are you running it to air? I know peeps do it on the n/a car's but as your running boost you will need it completed. Otherwise your going to have a problem as you will have a hole in your boost circuit due to the ISCV, you will need to loop it back in before the TB.

awesome cheers fella, was gonna run it into boost pipe but as an afterthought! lol

[markey b]

it runs!!

it also leaks... badly....

rear main seal FAIL!!

[markey b]

got the mashed rear main out last night... managed to drop subframe and slide box out the way which is easier than disconnecting fuel/coolant lines and lifting whole engine out

hopefully get new part today and back in this eve all being well


http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3099

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3100

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3101

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3102

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3103

[Chunk]

Awesome project! Absolutely love this!

You certainly don't hang about..

[markey b]

Awesome project! Absolutely love this!

You certainly don't hang about..

it would probably be already finished if it wasnt for my catalogue of schoolboy errors, meaning I've done most things more that once :-(

[R5TURBORON]

Looking good nice work

[markey b]

tonight's progress....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO-wiukA9A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

starts runs and drives! not bad for 3 1/2 weeks graft :-)

just bit of wiring inside to finish, brakes and suspension then it's mot time :-)

[James5]

Mark fantastic new's and good work, not able to view vid at mo as @ work but will have a butchers when I get home tonight at somepoint

[bigdur]

Good skills again! Some on the road video would be cool. :cool:

[HendyR5]

Top drawer m8 :agree: excellent build!

[Chunk]

Oh my.......... I WANT.

[markey b]

been a bit slow on the updates lately, as i've been busy working 10hr days and then the evening shift up my workshop sorting loose ends, wiring, plumbing etc....

11 is now 99% done, starts, runs, drives, cooling system works and gauges now work after some wiring issues between the C reg wiring loom and the K reg clocks

here are a few snaps from this eve...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/501d9615.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/9ab12c0b.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/b843ed92.jpg

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http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/75c9f9b1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/94d48936.jpg

[markey b]

finished!!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/mark_wsmcuk/f1c53c1f.jpg

just need some steelies for it, and then some lowering and brake upgrade, but mechanically its running sweet, and sounds even more awesome-er-er

:D:D:D

[TNT ANDY]

Top work Mark - did you get the running issues sorted?

[djinuk]

looking fookin cool now dude :cool:

[raj]

get some vids of it blattin down the road uploaded, it sounded awesome on the previous start-up vid you posted:agree:

[James5]

Mark top work looks awesome proper sleeper, love the roof rack:agree:

[Alastair]

That looks super cool! Lovethe roof rack too... Get some pics up with it in day light! Would like a ride in this at ND or Blyton track day?!!

[Schakal]

Great stuff mate :agree:

That charger looks a tight fit in the pictures , does it hit the chassis at all
with the engine movement on full throttle etc ?

BTW i have a set of 4 bare valver steelies in black if you get stuck .

[markey b]

That looks super cool! Lovethe roof rack too... Get some pics up with it in day light! Would like a ride in this at ND or Blyton track day?!!

yea sure, thats not a prob, as long as it lasts that long :laugh:

[markey b]

Great stuff mate :agree:

That charger looks a tight fit in the pictures , does it hit the chassis at all
with the engine movement on full throttle etc ?

BTW i have a set of 4 bare valver steelies in black if you get stuck .

havn't driven it properly yet as its got no MOT or tax, but i've chopped a bit out the chassis so there is lots of room, but looks tight... i'll re-inforce it this eve

got some 14" DCI steels on it now to compliment the roof rack.. even washed it sat! lol

[markey b]

mot booked for saturday, then off to tax it after work :)

[Bruce - BHPerformance]

Good luck with the MOT. :)

[James5]

Fingers crossed all goes well matey:agree:

[markey b]

mot should sail through ;)

[TNT ANDY]

Good luck fella!

[markey b]

got more bits done last night...

mopped the whole car so its actually shiny again, and topped it off with some wax

oil and filter change

cold start injector wired into boost switch

fitted thermostat and made sure it runs at correct temp

all set to bring it home this eve on trade plates :agree:

[James5]

got more bits done last night...

mopped the whole car so its actually shiny again, and topped it off with some wax

oil and filter change

cold start injector wired into boost switch

fitted thermostat and made sure it runs at correct temp

all set to bring it home this eve on trade plates :agree:


I wonder how well the cold starter injector will work when on boost:eek: you plumbed in and AFR gauge yet? hope your monitoring for det / knock aswell. I know you have lowered comp but standard ECU and standard injector's :cry:

[markey b]

I wonder how well the cold starter injector will work when on boost:eek: you plumbed in and AFR gauge yet?

i've no idea, but i've got snetterton next friday on a standard ECU and 7psi so should add some extra safety, switch opens the injector so should just flow 4bar fuel pressure through it on boost... i'll report back lol

no AFR yet as its hardwired into the orange 5, will borrow an LM-1 on sat just to check and make sure its roughly right, but can't drive it legally until sat afternoon after the MOT and after i've taxed it

[Scoff]

Cold start injector :scared:

Have you lowered compression at least ??

[markey b]

couple more pics of it during/after clean

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3225

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3226

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3227

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3228

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3229

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3230

[markey b]

Cold start injector :scared:

Have you lowered compression at least ??

yes, 0.5mm off piston face and a dish 1mm deep, and 4bar fuel pressure

[Scoff]

yes, 0.5mm off piston face and a dish 1mm deep, and 4bar fuel pressure

Ah good, I think you should get away with standard timing :)

I don't know if the cold start will provide enough fuel for that 40-50% power increase.

A better budget option would be an MF2 and a pair of injectors a little upstream of the throttle. The cold start isn't going to atomise or supply equal delivery as well as additional injectors would.

[markey b]

Ah good, I think you should get away with standard timing :)

I don't know if the cold start will provide enough fuel for that 40-50% power increase.

A better budget option would be an MF2 and a pair of injectors a little upstream of the throttle. The cold start isn't going to atomise or supply equal delivery as well as additional injectors would.

the cold start is just a belt and braces until i get it mapped, then i'll get bigger injectors in and the ECU flashed to suit a s/c, and go from there. its only running 7psi so i'm not expecting a rocket

[markey b]

little update, it had to fail mot on sat, but failed on OSR sill corrosion and OSF wheel bearing... not bad for an old shed.

bro has been busy welding, and last night i put on the GTT front struts and hubs complete with clio 16v brakes, and then lowered rear beam :)

pulled the NS bar out with a spanner and a bolt, unbelivable considering its age!

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3263

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3262

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3261

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1405&pictureid=3260

[T.K]

Awesome!

Especially the Krypton Factor sticker! :agree:

[Brigsy]

Nice sleeper :) get that ecu mapped properly though and enjoy reliable power, the cold start injector is too pikey:crap:

[TNT ANDY]

:agree::agree::agree:

Nice one ButterBollox - really glad you've done this to the ol' girl. Very nicely done as usual.
:)

[Robclio98]

Mega project! awesome for 3 n half weeks :D

[markey b]

thank u

its still in the workshop having a bit of welding, turns out that when it was repaired before they liked filler! all good in the hood tho, my bro is on the case and he's making repair panels from sheet metal :agree:

money is the only thing holding it up, after another bottom end as my pikey build is knocking under load, tbh its laster longer than i thought :laugh:

[Rare.]

this is cool :cool:

[markey b]

still not driven it properly yet due to lack of tax, and may have to sell it due to lack of funds :cry:

[Schakal]

Did you manage to get this to run properly at all mate ?
What type of supercharger have you used ?

[markey b]

Did you manage to get this to run properly at all mate ?
What type of supercharger have you used ?

havn't driven it yet fella still needs tax, its all mot'd and legal apart from that, just need to pop it down the road to make sure it boosts ok now

supercharger is eaton M62 i believe, of a merc, from this months PPC cover car no less :laugh:

[markey b]

little update...

bottom end was lunched so decided to swap it out for a new one, so engine out again :cry:

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4600

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4599

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4598

new bottom end in and built back up, just needs a few bits of plumbing in finished

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4607

then by complete luck, the worlds most complicated car exchange was discovered... so in 3 weeks the 11 will be going to a new home :crap:

basically, swapping the 11 for this....

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4597

which i have swapped for this....

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4603

which i've already swapped for this....

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1518&pictureid=4604

complicated, but so far so good... shame the 11 is going but i've still got the orange 5 for kicks, diesel for daily and now a 'ped too :agree:

[r5_scotty]

that blue five is gorgeous!:eek:

[tom t]

blue 5 is nice where has that came from?
nice bike though saying that the clio looks nice too lol

[BabybluGTT]

Thats mine :cry:

[r5_scotty]

that five was really smart mate why did ya get rid of it? and who owns it now?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

that five was really smart mate why did ya get rid of it? and who owns it now?

He's still owns it mate as i've got some bits for it still, need to go give them to him soon so its ready for him

[BabybluGTT]

Yeah as Markey says I still own it mate, I lost my license for 12 months and gunna have driving without insurance and TWOC on it when I get it back :eek: No one will insure me on a GTT with that record, being only 20 :( If all goes ahead me and Mark B will be doing a straight swap BUT the 11 is still insurance group 6 so am abit stuck really :scratch:

[markey b]

Yeah as Markey says I still own it mate, I lost my license for 12 months and gunna have driving without insurance and TWOC on it when I get it back :eek: No one will insure me on a GTT with that record, being only 20 :( If all goes ahead me and Mark B will be doing a straight swap BUT the 11 is still insurance group 6 so am abit stuck really :scratch:

insurance will always be a killer with TWOC, group 6 is alot better than 14 and turbo in the name tho lol

soon as markey has worked his magic lemme know 11 is back together now :agree:

[Tony Walker]

you stole a car or is there a bigger story..... might want to clarify that being in a club full of car lovers.....

[markey b]

i'm pretty sure its part of the story, i'm sure he will explain if he wants too

[BabybluGTT]

Haha good shout Tony, my mrs at the time told me to take her car. She wasnt best pleased when I phoned her and told her i'd written it off though! So much so that she smashed my 5 up with a hammer (drivers window and windscreen & ripped the battery out :cry:) I said I took it without her consent so she didnt get into any trouble :disagree: Needless to say shes not my mrs anymore.

[Tony Walker]

Damn :( sorry to hear bout the 5 :( she managed to rip the battery out?????????????? :eek:

[Alastair]

Mark, i take it you are using the standard ECU? Who were you going to get to map it up?

[markey b]

Mark, i take it you are using the standard ECU? Who were you going to get to map it up?

james5 says there is someone on cliovalver that can reflash them for £150

[BabybluGTT]

Damn :( sorry to hear bout the 5 :( she managed to rip the battery out?????????????? :eek:

Well someone there managed to go through the terminal clips, god knows how lol cut straight through them both :( Thanks mate, it was a moment of stupidity, finally got my dream motor and now Im gunna loose it :eek:

Sorry for the hijack Mark :D

[Alastair]

james5 says there is someone on cliovalver that can reflash them for £150

Yeah ive been in touch and he seems very genuine. He has a website now too linked from the clio williams forum.

[Tony Walker]

Well someone there managed to go through the terminal clips, god knows how lol cut straight through them both :( Thanks mate, it was a moment of stupidity, finally got my dream motor and now Im gunna loose it :eek:

Sorry for the hijack Mark :D


On the plus side youll get a pretty awesome 11 :D

Sorry also for the hijack Mark.