GAZ Front Shocks - Assembly

[Ashy]

Right guys, bought some 2nd hand (new) GAZ coilovers.

Just looking at how to assemble them as they dont come with all the bits I need.

Heres a pic of the bits I have, some are spares off an old set of AVO's but they don't use the std top cap bearing....

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Body%20Work/IMAG0169.jpg

Does anyone have any advice or better still photo's of how they built theirs up?

Cheers Ashy.

[Alastair]

Ashy,

I have had a number of issues with top mounts over the years, ill upload some pics of my current set up, using helper springs and showing the new conical shaped top hats i got direct from avo, this way all the shocks load is transmitted through the spherical bearings.

I found that the coilovers never felt right with the standard top hats, and i get lots more feedback from the tyres with this setup. The springs (275lb) are very harsh for the road though, going to go a bit softer for the more broken tarmac at the next few events.

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=356&pictureid=16733

[Ashy]

these springs are marked up 220lbs so don't know what they'll be like as i'm a bit heavier up front.

The std GAZ spring retainer looks different to th AVO one (I guess thats the one ur using, more conical in shape)

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Body%20Work/IMAG0171.jpg

[Alastair]

Ashy PM me your email address and i will send you a pic of the spares i have lying around, if they are any good ill send them to you if you cover post. They are what i was used with a standard set up.

Al.

[philg]

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=17501&highlight=gaz+coilovers


i dont know if this is any help, im racking my brains trying to remember how mine went together, sorry mate

[philg]

these springs are marked up 220lbs so don't know what they'll be like as i'm a bit heavier up front.

The std GAZ spring retainer looks different to th AVO one (I guess thats the one ur using, more conical in shape)

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Body%20Work/IMAG0171.jpg


Im sure the bearing just sits on the top of this

[mk5gtt]

There is a picture in the Haynes manual of the shock in exploded view with all the parts in the right order I struggled to put mine together but the pic helped

[TrixNFlix]

Just looked at my new phase 1 gaz shocks and I am in the same boat as ashy, I have no idea how to assemble them:confused:

[steer from the rear]

i put mine together and on last week and ive just swapped my engine so there to be fitted again tomorrow i will take a pic and get it on here asap for you guys vof what and how im running my gaz ones

[TrixNFlix]

Cheers dude!

[Ashy]

i put mine together and on last week and ive just swapped my engine so there to be fitted again tomorrow i will take a pic and get it on here asap for you guys vof what and how im running my gaz ones


Nice one, thanks :agree:

[steer from the rear]

this is how mine are made up ive the black spring seat which has that round spacer on top, that got a bearing built into it which then sits on top of my lower rubber dounut seat

[philg]

this is how mine are made up ive the black spring seat which has that round spacer on top, that got a bearing built into it which then sits on top of my lower rubber dounut seat

Are they phase 1 beacuse mine do not look like that?

phil

[Matt Cole]

Russel,

unless i'm looking at the pics upside down, your shocks look to be wrong? Not that i'm an expert, but all the load is central and not over the spring if that makes sense?

The black 'cup' needs seating into something, perhaps the doughnut?

I could be wrong but i wouldn't be happy with them on my car.

[Brigsy]

If your using the original top mount setup Ashy, id imagine it will go bearing straight on top of the collar that fits on top of the spring > top hat > rubber donut > top mount then the cup in from the top. Helper springs might be needed to keep the lot together.

[steer from the rear]

If your wondering about the gaps in the spring and the black cup I've pulled the shocker up to see it all separated but yes I wasn't sure if that's correct but I honestly couldn't built them up any other way, there off the car so now is the time to change it but from what was supplied all I could see is that you replace your standard bearing with the gaz one that's built in to the black cup which is attached to the spacer then the top hat for the donut sits on the spacer? :scratch: some one ring GAZ lol

[philg]

I will whip one of mine of on sunday, if no one has come up with the answer :)

[tiff_lee]

Looks similar to my spax setup with a black collar sat on top of the spring. I fitted standard assembly on top minus the original coil spring retainer/cap.

Like this..

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0259.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0260.jpg

or when I tried fitting adjustable top mounts I bought some small top spring cap things, on the left
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0261.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0258.jpg

[philg]

**** i forgot, pictures above are bang on :)

[TrixNFlix]

Right just to confirm guys are phase 2 hubs different to phase 1's? As my phase 1 coilovers are on and the tyres are now rubbing on the springs and adjusters.

[TrixNFlix]

Right just to confirm guys are phase 2 hubs different to phase 1's? As my phase 1 coilovers are on and the tyres are now rubbing on the springs and adjusters.

Can anyone confirm for me that this is my problem? Cheers, andy

[Brigsy]

Ph1 hubs are the same as ph2.

[TrixNFlix]

Ph1 hubs are the same as ph2.

Hmmmmm.... Could I of put the phase 1 strut tops on the wrong way? Otherwise I guess I may of been sent ph2 coilovers? Any other suggestions brigsy?

[James5]

Are you suspension holes that go to the hubs above each other or angled?

[TrixNFlix]

Are you suspension holes that go to the hubs above each other or angled?

Above each other on the gaz coilovers, is that ph2 then?!

[steer from the rear]

Ph2 offset, ph1 in-line.....have a search on here to double check, are your lower arms defo gt items and also ph 1 top mounts will fit either way unlike the offset ph2 top mounts, my problem was I had valver hubs and shafts so had ph1 top mounts on ph2 coil overs on clio hubs and lower arms

[James5]

Ph2 offset, ph1 in-line.....have a search on here to double check, are your lower arms defo gt items and also ph 1 top mounts will fit either way unlike the offset ph2 top mounts, my problem was I had valver hubs and shafts so had ph1 top mounts on ph2 coil overs on clio hubs and lower arms


:laugh:What he said

[SCHWARTZ]

Ive got some ph1 compbrake adj top mounts for sale if they would help ya out.

[Ashy]

Got it all sorted, was fairly simple once I took a std shocker appart and had a look. Loads better than the old AVO's I have.

All the bits laid out.

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0268.jpg

Shocker & Spring fitted

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0269.jpg

Gaz top cup in place

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0270.jpg

Reno Bearing in cup

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0271.jpg

Top cup and rubber damper in place

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0272.jpg

View from underneath

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0273.jpg

Top Plate on

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0274.jpg

Cup washer and nut fitted

http://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%20Files/Ashy%20172%20turbo/The%20Rebuild%202010%20-%202011/Wheels/IMAG0275.jpg

Thought it was worth taking a few pics incase anyone needs the info in the future!

[francob80]

Thanks for this. This will come in useful this weekend.

[Matt Cole]

You see, where else would you get quality info like that from?:)