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markey b
23-05-2011, 09:24
strange one, got my engine back in friday, and whilst bolting the clutch onto the flywheel (215mm clutch with modified flywheel) one of the timing sensor teeth broke off due to the holes being under it, now it starts and runs fine, but will it cause me any issues?

markey b
23-05-2011, 10:05
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1300&pictureid=16287

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
23-05-2011, 10:48
Woah.... Shiney thread, was is cross threaded/tight going in?

James5
23-05-2011, 11:34
Would it mess with the TDC timing reference signal:scratch:

Os8472
23-05-2011, 11:52
I thought it would but if it's running ok who knows :confused:

Maybe the tdc sensor is picking up the bolt and thinks it's a tooth???

Robbo
23-05-2011, 11:59
me and stu had a tooth missing off the flywheel on the 5lag. it threw the timing out all over the place, still ran but i think the double gap on the flywheel resets the aei. looks like its counting the thread as a tooth in your case. i would check with a timing strobe if the engine is fitted otherwise replace. tbh i would replace anyway as its only gonna let you down when you need it the most:cry:

markey b
23-05-2011, 12:20
i'll have to get timing light on it and check, hopefully it counts the bolt!

James5
23-05-2011, 12:21
i'll have to get timing light on it and check, hopefully it counts the bolt!


Mark not worth the risk really just get another flywheel on there:agree:

markey b
23-05-2011, 12:28
Mark not worth the risk really just get another flywheel on there:agree:

its all in now, plus its been modded to run a 215mm clutch :disagree:

James5
23-05-2011, 12:30
its all in now, plus its been modded to run a 215mm clutch :disagree:

I would still be taking it back out and replacing, but it's up to you, get the timeing gun and see what it's doing, personally I wouldn't want to risk.

markey b
23-05-2011, 12:42
what could it possibly do?

dave r5
23-05-2011, 13:23
Lots of damage if the bolt let's go

markey b
23-05-2011, 13:39
bugger :cry:

5teve L
23-05-2011, 15:52
I'd be more worried about it coming out while the engine is @ high RPMs :eek: prob work loose & fook the clutch at best I'd say, looks like it has to come out :crap:

raider_gtt
23-05-2011, 16:03
Weld it bk on!

markey b
23-05-2011, 16:07
it starts and runs and revs beautifully, wont idle if you take your foot off but its now got cam which it didn't before, so think carb may need adjustment. what would the timing be doing if it wasn't picking it up? may put a blob of weld on if i can in the meantime, then do flywheel properly once i have more time... :cry:

Os8472
23-05-2011, 16:30
it starts and runs and revs beautifully, wont idle if you take your foot off but its now got cam which it didn't before, so think carb may need adjustment. what would the timing be doing if it wasn't picking it up? may put a blob of weld on if i can in the meantime, then do flywheel properly once i have more time... :cry:

Don't know how sensitive the Renault sensor is to the shape of the tooth, may need to weld a blob then attack it with a file

Robbo
23-05-2011, 16:42
i wouldnt even be thinking about bodging that, its gonna have to come off sooner or later, and if it goes with a bang its gonna be more expensive than if you did it now. stu managed to split the box off the block and change flywheel without removing the lot

James5
23-05-2011, 16:44
i wouldnt even be thinking about bodging that, its gonna have to come off sooner or later, and if it goes with a bang its gonna be more expensive than if you did it now. stu managed to split the box off the block and change flywheel without removing the lot


:agree: Totally agree get it out now and replace it.

markey b
23-05-2011, 17:23
yeah ok, i'll whip then engine out again this eve and get my old flywheel modded, its already been run up so i'll retorque head and reset valve clearances before i take it out :(

just out of interest, piper 285 cam, are the .2 and .25?

J$£5GTT
23-05-2011, 19:29
i say leave it as it is an be a guinea pig for the rest of us!! :cooter:

markey b
24-05-2011, 01:40
too late, took engine out after work, then took flywheel and cover plate to a mates work and modified that :-) will b back in 2mora as if nothing happened :-)

markey b
24-05-2011, 11:37
last nites backwards progress, engine out again....

new duff flywheel out

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1300&pictureid=16300

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1300&pictureid=16301

new new flywheel being drilled

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1300&pictureid=16302

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1300&pictureid=16303

back to square one again, engine goes back in tonight (again)

James5
24-05-2011, 11:40
Good work at least you are doing the sensible thing and putting a decent flywheel on and starting again and not doing a bodge repair. Could be worse though you could be doing an F7p turbo conversion and forget to make sure the engine turns on crank before you put it all in and are almost finished :ashamed::D

markey b
24-05-2011, 17:42
Good work at least you are doing the sensible thing and putting a decent flywheel on and starting again and not doing a bodge repair. Could be worse though you could be doing an F7p turbo conversion and forget to make sure the engine turns on crank before you put it all in and are almost finished :ashamed::D

yeah decided it was worth doing properly, can't afford another pop just yet :laugh:

not good about it not turning, hopefully its just something silly!