Fisherprice my 1st welder

[bigdur]

With my 5 needing plenty of welding work I am looking into buying a mig setup, has anyone used a gasless mig welder and are they fine for sills and general panel/floor work?

http://www.screwfix.com/p/100-no-gas-mig-welder/79434

[car.crash]

your wasting your time on gaseless, it will make more holes in the sills than when you started.

[Andrew Cooke]

with the 5 being so thin and rusty they're not easy to weld, find some thin stuff to practice on, and don't start anywhere too 'public'...

Don't get a MIG with a live torch, I tried one for about 2 mins...

[bigdur]

'live torch'? Sorry but I'm not upto date on welders, I did a bit of Arc at college in 1995 :D

Any recommendations for a cheap unit?
Is something like this more like it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEALEY-SIEGEN-130Amp-Mig-Welder-2-x-WIRE-CO2-GAS-Visor-/290446362347?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item439ff3c6eb#ht_4297wt_907

[Andrew Cooke]

'live' as in if you touch the mig wire to earth it'll arc, slightly less cheap MIGs switch the current as well as the wire drum when you pull the trigger. I wouldn't know what to suggest, the one I got was a high-ish spec hobby job as I only have a 13A plug to run off.

[Andrew Cooke]

your link looks reasonable to me, you'll need a better visor. I also bought a gas cylinder from a local welding supplies place, and they can fill it with CO2 pretty cheaply. Those canisters don't last too long.

I'm sure someone with a bit more success than me welding 5s can give better advice :)

[bigdur]

Thanks Andrew, I'm in no massive rush to buy one.