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REGGY5GT
18-01-2011, 18:06
Now im upgrading to a t28 plus a few other bits on me b18ft im going to be close to the 200 bhp mark, so im looking into having a 1.9 clio diesel box, now is it possible to buy a lsd for the j box?? would i be able to use one off a clio 172 or alike?? thanks

philg
18-01-2011, 18:17
Now im upgrading to a t28 plus a few other bits on me b18ft im going to be close to the 200 bhp mark, so im looking into having a 1.9 clio diesel box, now is it possible to buy a lsd for the j box?? would i be able to use one off a clio 172 or alike?? thanks


Likewise :)

Andrew Cooke
18-01-2011, 18:19
I'm afraid you're limited to 3 or 4 manufacturers for something as specialist as that

SP33DY
18-01-2011, 18:31
As Andrew says your very limited with who to use, two that immediately spring to mind are ATB and Gripper but your easily looking over £1000 by the time you factor in rebuild, oils etc...

REGGY5GT
18-01-2011, 19:03
would this fit in a clio diesel box lads??

http://www.quaife.co.uk/catalogue/products/qdf6m-0

Alastair
18-01-2011, 19:13
I am fairly sure QDF6M fits all the JBx boxes m8. It is a good piece of kit

Rob@Backyardracing
18-01-2011, 19:23
Hmm im yet to have a play with the ATB diff, i prefer the old slipper plates as your able to build or change your LSD to suit conditions of the track, wet or dry.. Gripper can supply alot of parts cheap for the older style plate dif, eg different ramp angles if you find it snatches to much, either if its a gearing down for a corner issue or powering out, also different plates to change the lb rating.. With a gripper you can build your own diff to suit you and swapping the diff to suit the conditions on the day which could save you up to half a second a lap, and thats an awsome gain.. Just my 2p.. but i have no track experience with front wheel drive cars, just rear...

clee
18-01-2011, 19:43
I'm afraid you're limited to 3 or 4 manufacturers for something as specialist as that


Ohh to be that limited :coffee:

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
18-01-2011, 20:04
If you want to put a diff in a jb box and leave it alone use a quaife atb (auto torque bias, which is not a locking diff).
We use gripper diffs in the yellow and pink race cars, but use shorter n/s driveshafts due to the centre packs in the gripper which is a full locking diff, these can be quite harsh if set up with aggressive ramps and clutch plates.
Believe me, there are easier gearboxes to rebuild than the jb/c gearboxes!!! So a medium angle is a good compromise.
We at codered have a trick modified diff to go in Barney Davies R5 ( brother of Oli Davies with the pink race car). So watch out for some codered special stuff soon....
Matt@codered

jesus in the seat of a 5
18-01-2011, 20:33
i have the quaiffe in my daily and in the cup car and i must say its an excellent bit of kit, ive yet to test it on slicks but i must say even in torentual rain at mallory on r888`s it was amazing, i also have a gripper , of which i may install into the other cup {with the help of code red...:D}, i dont have any experience of this but im told even by tom at gripper that they can be as matt5 says high maintenance as uppose to the quaiffe...:(..:scratch:, a great asset though if its for a track/race used car no doubt!

markey b
18-01-2011, 20:55
did anyone have any luck with the 'phantom gripper' or whatever it was called, the bit that went in the diff making it limited slip, or something close

i'm debating puttin a standard gearbox back in as i've got a r11 one in with closer ratios but it spins up in 5th. only concern is that i've had 4 previous gtt boxes all lasting 3 months or so and the 11 box has lasted 4 years, all my pod runs and a snetterton track day

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
18-01-2011, 20:58
We have one, but ideally need to test it back to back with a Quaife and gripper........;)
If someone wants to lend me their gripper/Quaife equipped cars for a bit....?:burnrubber:

Alastair
19-01-2011, 11:25
We have one, but ideally need to test it back to back with a Quaife and gripper........;)
If someone wants to lend me their gripper/Quaife equipped cars for a bit....?:burnrubber:

Matt you run a phantom gripper?

Alastair
19-01-2011, 11:28
i have the quaiffe in my daily and in the cup car and i must say its an excellent bit of kit, ive yet to test it on slicks but i must say even in torentual rain at mallory on r888`s it was amazing, i also have a gripper , of which i may install into the other cup {with the help of code red...:D}, i dont have any experience of this but im told even by tom at gripper that they can be as matt5 says high maintenance as uppose to the quaiffe...:(..:scratch:, a great asset though if its for a track/race used car no doubt!

I was still lighting both wheels in the wet in 1,2 and 3 but if you feed the power in gently at the apex the atb did its thing and was great, although a gripper may have been slightly better for race use i didnt want the hassle of rebuilding the box every few races...

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
19-01-2011, 11:37
Matt you run a phantom gripper?

It's sitting in the workshop next to Barneys gearbox, if it works like it should I'll run one.
Pm for you Alistair.
Matt5

Adey aka Ewok
19-01-2011, 19:33
Any chance if getting some pics up, I've got a spare box but it's for Clio and they dnt list one, so was looking to see if it would fit or I could poss have one machined?

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
19-01-2011, 19:44
Any chance if getting some pics up, I've got a spare box but it's for Clio and they dnt list one, so was looking to see if it would fit or I could poss have one machined?

Of a Phantom grip?

Adey aka Ewok
19-01-2011, 20:37
Of a Phantom grip?

Yes please

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
19-01-2011, 22:38
I'll put the camera on charge and post pics tomorrow.
Or ping me your email and I'll do it now.....;)
Matt5

sega
20-02-2012, 18:43
Did anyone ever test the phantom gripp?

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
20-02-2012, 18:46
It's sitting in a diff right now. Untested still.

sega
20-02-2012, 19:45
Have one in the same position for 5 years. Just found it back today :)