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First post!
Hi all,
After buying back my old Black Clio 20v from the big Legend aka Big Steve i thought id pop up a small build thread. The car has gone through allot of changes since i owned it and cost some people many many monies! (in a phonejacker stylie). Lots of bits have improved(mainly by Big Steve's hands) which makes my life easier i guess but there are still things to do that i wanted to do better if i did it again. The main factor would be making the whole Conversion look more OE and less thrown in.
The plan is to remove the Hart n Soul of the old girl and stick it all in a Williams shell. Mainly because that's what ive always wanted but also....well its a williams
This is what it looked like last Saturday.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0369.jpg
Then this weekend i picked up the Williams. The bodywork needs TLC but the interior is mint! tbh i could have waited and found a better shell to start with but this is Number 12 so it needed saving (so i keep telling myself)
Few pictures as i picked her up.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/14485708.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/56b9bf09.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/55728428.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/04b86c22.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/9fed55ae.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/54ed5316.jpg
Old tat removed ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0384.jpg
Now the fun starts
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0385.jpg
Flan
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports
13-12-2010, 13:25
Hi mate, welcome to the club.
Whats happening to the old shell and willy engine and parts ??
Welcome to the club Stuart, looking good, I went out in this as a passenger ride at one of the RTOC national days have to say was one of my fav passenger rides of the day. Look forward to seeing the new project come and progress.
Welcome to the club Stuart, looking good, I went out in this as a passenger ride at one of the RTOC national days have to say was one of my fav passenger rides of the day. Look forward to seeing the new project come and progress.
Like james said top car, and know Steve has put a lot of work into that car since he has owned it, had the pleasure of driving the car, with James as passenger, and car was great, such a great engine conversion in there. Look forward to seeing how this progresses more.
Big Steve - Raider
13-12-2010, 17:29
Welcome along to the RTOC Flan! :niceone: ;)
CHRIST you don't hang about mate?! The engine's already out of the Williams & you're ready to get cracking on dropping the VAG lump in!! Good lad!!
I look forward to seeing what you have planned for the old girl! :D
BluntyR5GTT
13-12-2010, 17:36
wow :agree:
what a great project perfect combination of car and engine tbh bro has the 1.8t in his audi a3 remapped goes well so much potential
Duncan Grier
13-12-2010, 20:37
Good stuff, should be a nice conversion. Speakng to Steve myself today and think I may return to a 5 for a bit in the shape of another vag conversion but using new tsi lump ;-) will do another vx but funds too short for now so cheeky vag and 5 it is. Few changes to original plan but will start with a heathy 375bhp spec and even review 4wd option.
Also looking for some williams bits for wide track if you have spare
DG
Good stuff, should be a nice conversion. Speakng to Steve myself today and think I may return to a 5 for a bit in the shape of another vag conversion but using new tsi lump ;-) will do another vx but funds too short for now so cheeky vag and 5 it is. Few changes to original plan but will start with a heathy 375bhp spec and even review 4wd option.
Also looking for some williams bits for wide track if you have spare
DG
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Hello All, yer i always wanted to 20v a willimas but did not have the cash at the time. The plan is to build an imaculate 1 but with 290ish bhp (might fit a K04 hybrid)
I did look into the FSI and 4wd (a friend has a KA with full quattro gear) its insane! but allot of work and money (you need a lsd rear diff and controler for the Haldex unit)
As for the old bits. Black Shell, willimas engine, wide track... its all for sale ;) ive put most on Williams Clio but ill chuck it on here also.
Yer Steve dont mess around... Christmas time is gonna be flat out! :D
Good stuff, should be a nice conversion. Speakng to Steve myself today and think I may return to a 5 for a bit in the shape of another vag conversion but using new tsi lump ;-) will do another vx but funds too short for now so cheeky vag and 5 it is. Few changes to original plan but will start with a heathy 375bhp spec and even review 4wd option.
Also looking for some williams bits for wide track if you have spare
DG
DG in 4wd, you know you wanna !
Flan, good to see you over here buddy, threads like this are what I like to see :)
Duncan Grier
14-12-2010, 11:45
I will take my business to another thread to save taking any focus off the great project you are doing but if you could pm me some prices for the williams bits - interested in wishbones, ARB, rear beam, hubs, subframes etc if at the right price
4wd is a mission scoff to get the true quattro to work over the haldex system due to new ECU / sytem requiring the use of the abs and tc also - but as with everything can be done ;) and as you know alway loved the idea of 4wd conversion
So Fsi lump over Tsi it is as the later chain driven tsi lump is wider by a few inches :( and you know its not going to fit with the slightly wider 6 gearbox than we used before
So again tsi with a choice smaller 6 speed box and oe management with some mods should still be fine even if I would rather use the tsi lump (already have in the garage)
Fwd certainly quicker and easier to build and should be ready for ND :)
DG
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Not the best weather for starting a project :)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/503f9dad.jpg
Big Steve - Raider
24-12-2010, 12:41
You've been there before mate :laugh:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn259/BigSteveT/Clio/nosubframe.jpg
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i know... not mutch has changed, this was taken today,same place ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0415.jpg
few pics before i rip it apart ... RIP Black 20V :(
Engine bay
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0416.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0417.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0418.jpg
The intercooler, still no sure if im gonna use it.. the core looks like it will flow well but im not convinced on the ends? thoughts???
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A sad day for the black one as the engine was pulled out
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0435.jpg
But before i did i welded the engine to the sumframe so when i bolt the subframe up in the williams it will be in the right place and make mounts to that ( didnt like the old mounts)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0432.jpg
Few pics of how tight the engine is in the bay, this is the back (not much room for a bigger turbo?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0430.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0431.jpg
gearbox to the rack
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0438.jpg
box to the subframe
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0439.jpg
sump and modified subframe
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0440.jpg
found out what the knocking was... inner VW CV was foobared. very odd
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0428.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0429.jpg
now just need to fit it in the Willimas :crap:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0436.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0437.jpg
Tony Walker
30-12-2010, 21:53
We recently repaired a golf that had gone through 2 driveshafts after someone did there clutch, there gearbox mount was quite away from its correct position resulting in the driveshaft being at a funny angle. Not saying this is your fault but its worth checking :D
watching this project with interest.. id love to have seen a comprehensive project of when the engine first got put in.. it just amazing me the power the vw/audi boys are getting out of these lumps, they just seem rock hard. Maybe you could fancy up then engine mounts a little bit before it goes in the williams, just a lick of paint ?
Penfold aka The Dealer
31-12-2010, 11:54
Just out of interest what you doing with the Black clio shell?
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i was gonna put the Black one back to a hybrid but ill probably sell it as a shell if your interested... with 20V mounts if someone wants them (im making all new mounts)
Im hoping the driveshaft was a one off... the setup has lasted 5 years of abuse so one in 5 years will be fine ;) plus the engine is as low as it can be... but ill double check. Ill be making all new engine mounts (to the subframe) so keep an eye out for that... maybe tommorow if im not too hung over :D
Can't wait to see this take shape, best of luck.
Is the Joey with the Ka that you was talking about ?
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yer think so, hes a friend of a friend... it looks amazing!
Engine mounts are taking a while... i think there a bit overkill but oh well 8)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0455.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0454.jpg
also behind the dash... dont look fun :roll:
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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0441.jpg
I love threads like this keep up the good work and keeps the pics flowing:cooter:
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spent the last few weekends prepping the engine bay… any suggestion of rust was either cut out or ground back then treated with Gel. I even removed the sealer to redo it.
So… I got my favorite toy out :D
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture041.jpg
Then decided to modify the front cross member for strength but also to help fit bigger ends onto the intercooler (better flow) and I added some braces.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture043.jpg
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Then I removed the mount (there is no going back now)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture049.jpg
Almost prepped (the orange stuff is the rust remover in action)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture052.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture054.jpg
All Primed up… just need to flat it back, stoneguard the arches and topcoat it.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture056.jpg
Excellent project, will watch with interest:smokin:
Nice work, keep the updates coming:agree:
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Small update
Engine Bay masked up so i could body shutz the wheel arches, dont ask about the material... long story lol
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0509.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0506.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0508.jpg
then Flatted back the highbuild and added some top stopper in places
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0530.jpg
then basecoat
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0533.jpg
then the clear....
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0542.jpg
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looks much smother with no bolt holes in the rails.
Then i got back on the engine mounts. this is the OS Rear. only one more to make then i can start to put it back together :lol:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0555.jpg
ive also just bought a BAM engine and bigger turbo so if anyone wants to build a 20v ive got a spare motor for sale :D
modfather
30-01-2011, 20:31
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Small update
Engine Bay masked up so i could body shutz the wheel arches, dont ask about the material... long story lol
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0509.jpg
is that paint you have sprayed all over the car :scratch::laugh::laugh:
looking good tho mate well done
rs250nut
30-01-2011, 21:06
Paint work looks tidy, why the muckey mags to mask up?
Paint work looks tidy, why the muckey mags to mask up?
Guess they stuck better to the bodywork :scratch:
rs250nut
30-01-2011, 21:26
Guess they stuck better to the bodywork :scratch:
Quality:laugh:
Got to agree,paint looks mint,if mine looks that good I will be very happy
Duncan Grier
31-01-2011, 13:34
Flan looking really good :agree:
Pm sent ;)
DG
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L O L at the masking up.........
nice job !!
Subscribed :)
This looks fantastic mate ;)
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Cheers guys, I sent my mate to get some news paper and the joker came back with that... so i thought, sod it :D
Small update.. last mount made on the offside rear
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0555.jpg
Then picked up my new BAM Engine... its Tiny with nothing on!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0568.jpg
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then fitted the flywheel and clutch (nice lightened flywheel that Big Steve bought) :agree:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0576.jpg
Then, painted the block,box and mounts and bolted it all together
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0578.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0580.jpg
Now need to wait for my turbo and manifold and plum it all in.. :)
p30esteves
08-02-2011, 01:39
Very nice work :goodJob:
TNT ANDY
08-02-2011, 06:43
Top Job Flan - Interesting the way you've removed the subframe / engine together. Is this a better way of going about it (even if you don't have a big yellow lifty thing)
awesome work the bay looks awesome. Whats it like changing the oil filter? Looks like it could be a pain.
It's easier for me to drop the engine out the bottom with the subframe. Also my engine is only mounted to the subframe not the car.
As for the filter it's actually ok. It's a funny pic, there is more room than appears in that pic. Plus it's got the normal filter on. Ill be changing it for a shorter filter.
Makes my conversion look quite inferior:cry: I'm quite embarrassed to post again after seeing this one :laugh:
Fitted all brake lines and dropped the lump in last night :D
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Bay09022011.jpg
TrixNFlix
10-02-2011, 19:40
:goodJob::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:
Big Steve - Raider
10-02-2011, 22:08
Mint :niceone:
:smokin: awesome mate :burnrubber:
Rob@Backyardracing
11-02-2011, 20:32
:agree: looking awsome...
Woznaldo
11-02-2011, 21:08
Love your work. :agree:
Big Steve - Raider
20-03-2011, 12:57
Come on Flan, what's the latest news? Chop chop?! :laugh:
Thanks Steve.... remember your coming round to help with the electrics!!! lol
Slow progress at the mo… Women and Beer are a big distraction!!!
Plus im waitng on my new manifold to arrive (only been 3 weeks) and my Rad/Intercooler to come back from ProAlloy. The guys there are re-making the inlet/outlet to suit my new setup. (RH Inlet)
Few New bits turned up. New lower arms,
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/b195ad83.jpg
Then I fitted the bonnet to check it all fitted… tight
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/1b69eb02.jpg
New positions were made for the intercooler and sent of to be fabricated.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/c5cd85a2.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/50646e21.jpg
Next job… rip out the dash
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/b8447471.jpg
Currently fitting the Hydro Clutch, Here’s the Reservoir
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/8a11f904.jpg
Manifold turned up!!! Looks pretty cool
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture115.jpg
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There is actually more room behind the turbo now than with the std K04 as the IHI is allot closer to the block. Result!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture121.jpg
Big Steve - Raider
04-04-2011, 17:01
:niceone:
You could get a small bus down there!! :eek:
Big Update!
Clutch is finished
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0826.jpg
intercooler came back.... The guys at Pro Alloy are Gods!!!! i will recomend them to anyone and deffo go back again!!!!! Just look :shock:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0835.jpg
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how rad is that... lol ill get my coat!
Turbo Fitted
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Now the intercooler is fitted
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0906.jpg
its tight!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0907.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0908.jpg
Plus my wheels are back from Sandblasting.... its all go now 8)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0910.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0911.jpg
gonna be a busy weekend!!!
ding dong!!!!!!! check that i/c out!!!! :):agree:
TNT ANDY
12-05-2011, 17:11
ding dong!!!!!!! check that i/c out!!!! :):agree:
Holly mother of Jeebus
I know! It's almost a crime to hide it behind a bumper!
ace, great work :agree:
whats the clutch m/c from ? I tried a mini m/c in the bulkhead with my new 02M, insufficient volume, then couldn't find a VW m/c with a propper (threaded) resivoir hose fitting - instead they were all plastic with those awfull plastic fittings and metal clip arrangement. In the end I used an old 02J slave cyl as a master cyl, I just bleed it backwards. seems OK but incase I have problems I quite like the look of your setup :)
Always loved this car.......epic.
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looks lovely top work :agree::agree::agree::agree:
Scoff... Ur scaring me lol. It's just a .750 one from my kit car. Not even sure it's got enough flow? Fingers crossed... It's tight under there ay! But like u said I had the STD Vw one (steve fitted it) but this looked neater. I'll keep ya posted. Flan
Ps cheers for the comments lads :)
This is a fantastic build mate, top job :agree::agree::devil:
what a build, great stuff :)
Busy weekend…. It might be done for the National day but unlikely it will be mapped
Few things ticked of the list
Gear linkage
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0827.jpg
And Speedo
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture134.jpg
Fan…bit tight
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Header tank with custom pipe
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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture146.jpg
New heat shield…. Not sure about it?? might have to re-do it!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture141.jpg
Turbo is all plummed in… oil return was fun to fit!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture137.jpg
Inlet manifold and Injectors in
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture138.jpg
Just need to start the pipework
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture147.jpg
Oh and find a smaller throttle rocker (or just a steal one I can modify…. Anyone got one?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture142.jpg
Not much to do in the grand scheme of things…
Gonna be a few late nights this month!
The start of the wheel refirb..... fun!:rolleyes:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0974.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0978.jpg
Hubs, brakes and shocks fitted... I know why they call them Gaz "Gold" shocks... only been on a year and there going rusty!! :D
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0981.jpg
Duncan Grier
20-05-2011, 08:48
Looking good Flan :agree:
Now stop making excuses and as you say to me chop chop :D:D:D
DG
More goodies from SFS.... im gonna have shares in that place soon :rolleyes:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0985.jpg
more mods
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0988.jpg
but were getting there.... almost all plummed in then electrics.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_0991.jpg
I'll second that,awesome build,I've also nicked your idea of mounting the clutch master cylinder in the cabin for my hydraulic clutch setup:D;)
I just took the boring option and bought a clio V6 pedal box to solve my hydraulic clutch issues ;)
Flan, for future ref the 0.75 I bought works ace with the 02M in my car. So it should work fine with your 02J/A
For comparision sake it takes about 1.3" of piston travel to fully disengage. I don't know where 0.75 comes from because it's bore was 20mm or over, not 0.75" like I expected. Just aswell because the cylinder will only travel 1.5", compared with the 2" of the old VW one I took out and I was worried there would not be enough volume. Turns out there's just enough :)
this is awesome m8! great work looks so o.e.
is this the bam engine? as we now have a leon cupra r and its a very nice engine gana be a real weapon
Nice one Scoff, yer mine is really Light but works great. Infact the biting piont is high but i have room to adjust it.
The Engine is a BAM from a TT225 but im sure them Cupras run the same lump?
Had it mapped on Wednesday. Up to Emerald for full ECU re-map. all went well except a sticking thremostat but that didnt take long to fix ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture167.jpg
Chuffed with the final power.... just need a full respray now :cool:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Map20v.jpg
Adey aka Ewok
03-06-2011, 11:22
Fook a duck that'll shift!
yeah thas why i ask as the cupra has the bam lump. i cant get over how neat it looks m8. seriously jealous lol. made some good power aswell what mods has the engine got apart from intercooler? standard k04?
any plans for the car in future? 4wd would be imense! nick some quattro gear from somewhere or r32 bits
brilliant!:agree:
was tempted to go quattro but ill stick with 2wd (1wd with my diff) and see what happens. Its a stock BAM with 440cc injectors and a VF34 turbo.
This Project has turned from “Just an Engine swap” to “Full Restoration”
I was hoping to just sort the arches, paint the outside then over the winter do all the underneath...ect BUT on closer inspection the sills needed repairing in sections, the jacking points were going and underneath looked a bit tired....
So i decided to bite the bullit and do the lot.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1160.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1158.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1152.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture172.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture177.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture178.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture179.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture176.jpg
Boot is foobared
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture173.jpg
This is the only rust inside the car
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture184.jpg
Inner sills are ok
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture183.jpg
Then just remove all the paintwork/rust with my new favourite tool!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture186.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture187.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture188.jpg
Ive defiantly seen worse on Clio’s The reason the arches are sooo bad is they must have been repaired about 5years back and they just put filler over the rust! Its good in a way as these are all the original panels and the car has never been welded.
2 arches and sills ordered.... gonna be a busy week!!
Flan
BabybluGTT
20-06-2011, 10:04
Mate I actually laughed out loud when I saw your RR graph.. thats mental!:cool::D
Good work, fits like a glove.
Poor Ex 20v (Big Steve Dont Look!!!!)… At least parts of the car will live on!
Always handy having a spare… you can see where everything is joined and plated. The black one is good in places but poor in others (check the front corner) it seames no two clio’s are the same!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture189.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture190.jpg
My inner sills seam ok
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture191.jpg
First job remove all body sealer… FUN!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture192.jpg
Had to repair a small patch but not to bad. Then ill treat this area and put the sill on.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture193.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture194.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture195.jpg
Finish with something like this
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/Picture197.jpg
Next… the joy of the Rear arches!
Big Steve - Raider
23-06-2011, 15:20
Poor Ex 20v (Big Steve Dont Look!!!!)…
:sad:
Shame, seams I'm not the only one the goes over the top and finds all the rust.
Did you get any more pictures during welding on the sill patch ?
Thanks
Lewis
Na sorry mate thats all i have. Do you need any info? i was hoping to do this over the winter but if i dont do it now it will never get done....
Not many pics on this either, as I was to busy sweating and swearing ;)
A few.. All the rusty rear corner removed… no going back now
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture198.jpg
New section fitted
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture199.jpg
Then I spent hoooouuuuurs recreating this corner section. It took forever! But im happy with the result (still needs tweeks before painting)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture200.jpg
It took me most of the weekend to get this far…. You can see why bodyshops NEED to charge so much. If you want it don’t right that is! Should have this side don’t tonight then onto the other side…which was worse on the sill… oh Joy!
Had a bit of an Epic fail and lost loads of pictures… Ghaaay! I have a few for an update.
Finished the Sill off
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture228.jpg
Also had to make this into the floor… bit OTT just to hold up the brake like holders but oh well!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture227.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture230.jpg
Repaired the floor
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture232.jpg
Then rubbed down the whole underneath of the car ans treated any rust, followed by 90% Zinc rich primer on any bare metal, then Shultz’d the lot, pic taken after I fitted the tank n fuel line.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture237.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture238.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture239.jpg
Had a bit of fun with a door pin
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture233.jpg
Rear beam back from the sand blasters
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture231.jpg
Painted in thick zinc primer then hamerite (with a gun) looks good.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture236.jpg
Just need to fit up a few things tonight then off to the bodyshop!!!
Duncan Grier
11-07-2011, 12:49
Good stuff Flan :agree:
Now get round and finish my car :coffee: had a few hrs on it since ND failure to arrive and drive and getting pished off at total lack of time to progress :cry:
Have managed to sort a few things out that I never knew were an issue at least.
DG
Dunc, just crack on with it... at this rate you wont make the next national day ;)
anyways....Off to the Bodyshop! i hope it comes back looking better :D
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture240.jpg
Lovin the progress of this! :) ....and the rr graph..bloody hell ..thatll shift! :eek:
Duncan Grier
14-07-2011, 11:00
PMSL cheeky git!........but there is an element of truth there lol
I dont have that much left tbh
- Make custom seats (foam jobbie)
- Remove exhaust and change angle of downpipe (not happy with how close it is to the chassis
- Finish install of boost controller and mount gauges
- Make new boost hose with T for idle controller & recirc valve
- Strip diff and remove crush washer and replace with solid spacer, also looking to treat the other bits to add some extra strength (poss fit ATB diff)
- After diff work decide on turning the boost up on oe map or get a chip / RR session done
- Some form of solution for air intake if wet
- Finish the bonnet and nose cone
- Spray offensive green
- Stick my stock of stick on real carbon stuff :laugh:
- Install oil pressure sensor and hopefully temp also
-GET on track and test - dont want Spa in october to be the shake down test (although did that with the vag 5 conversion lol)
DG
So prob a couple of days work and tidy a few smaller things out but just dont have the time spare atm :cry: having a n hr hear and there gets bugger all done
Well a small update, work has been slow. Mainly because there flat out painting cars for “paying” customers…..thats not fair right?
The workshops always full, currently a full paintjob on all theses…even the 1962 Silver Cloud at the back! Its getting a bit of work when they can, hopefully in full primer this week.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture249.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture241.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture.jpg
Wheels Update
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture242.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture243.jpg
The paint £28+vat for 0.5L
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture244.jpg
Base coat done
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture245.jpg
Finished, the colour looks different in every light as it’s a xirallic paint….. Unless Northy sends me his I cant see how different they are but im not too fussed, they look cool!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture246.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture247.jpg
Wheels - oh yes sir :agree:
Big Steve - Raider
17-08-2011, 22:20
Luvverly!! :niceone:
Pure sex this car is, keep them coming, attention to detail is great :)
top project mate, I appreciate the engineering and body work that has gone into this. Rolling road figures are imopressive:agree:
I love to drop one of these lumps into my R5 at some point in the future:)
Looking fantastic mate, those wheels are gorgeous ;)
If i'm honest, this is the only thing i look at on RTOC at the minute to check for updates, your work is very impressive. This will be an awesome car once finished.
If i'm honest, this is the only thing i look at on RTOC at the minute to check for updates, your work is very impressive. This will be an awesome car once finished.
That's a shame as there are a lot of other very interesting and great quality projects ongoing within RTOC.
Some projects on here make mine look budget :cool: v-cool!
Anyways...Pics
Masked up ready for Primer
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture253.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture252.jpg
Primed with high build primer
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture255.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture254.jpg
Next stage…. Lots of Flatting!!! Oh the Joy!!
Getting there! Thanks to Dave@Autowerx MK ;)
Big Steve - Raider
26-08-2011, 16:15
:crush:
amazing project .. just 1 word of note
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture200.jpg on my gtt i found this section you have welded here (right into that corner) was actually just filled with seam sealer and i mean super thick from the factory, wierd isnt it ?..
rs250nut
26-08-2011, 23:32
Looking at this thread reminds me of the time and effort I put in to painting my old clio williams, fresh 449 looks mint:) What colour code did you use for the wheels? Why so expensive for the base coat?
Its Just v expensive paint i guess :D i think because its Xyralic (Sp) and metalic. Some paints are silly expensive its more that 449 sports blue. IIRC My Blue was £80 per litre +vat.:eek: buy the time this project is done i would have spent over £500 on Paint, Laqure, filler, papers, gun pots, thiners, body sealer, primer, waxoil...ect it soon ads up ay.
More…..
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture256.jpg
Sills coated in stonechip
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture257.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture258.jpg
Ready to go
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture259.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture260.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture263.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture261.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture262.jpg
Just need to prep all the parts and paint them now!
Looking good :agree:wish I had a paint booth when I painted my 5. When are you hoping to get it back together??
Big Steve - Raider
31-08-2011, 18:56
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/images/smiles/drool.gif (javascript:emoticon(':droool:')) Amazing!
:niceone:
Cheers Guys, the pics dont do it justice. Daves done a fantastic job!
Cant wait to get it all together now ;)
More parts prepped for Primer
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture264.jpg
Primed
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture265.jpg
Followed by hours of Flatting with 320, then 400 on the DA, then wet flat with 1000!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture266.jpg
Doors ready to go
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture267.jpg
Bonnet n boot painted
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture268.jpg
Penfold aka The Dealer
06-09-2011, 10:01
Work looks amazing :) a car i would be very proud to own :)
I simply can't wait to see this finished and put back together.
Duncan Grier
06-09-2011, 10:23
Looking good Flan :cool:
Cheers lads, not long now..... New rubber turned up
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture269.jpg
This is going to be crazy when fished.
when it going up for sale ;) want!!!
Dave Reed
07-09-2011, 09:41
Love this car!! it's going to be a seroius weapon when finshed and look awesome.
Great engineering work Flan!! :agree::agree:
Im Planning to keep this one for a while ;)
Last few bits ready to prime… a mixture of all the best bits I could find, hence the Blue, Black and even red parts…. Thanks Matt ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1504.jpg
More primer to flat
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1507.jpg
All the parts painted
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/IMG_1512.jpg
Also flatted and polished all the doors, boot, bonnet…ect so Today ill pick the car up and start the rebuild
Few rebuild pics, didn’t take many
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture270.jpg
Had to make new lines up as the old ones were knackered!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture276.jpg
Shiny wheels
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture277.jpg
Then the old MOT
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture288.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture290.jpg
Then the box had to be swapped.... Fun
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture291.jpg
Drop it all out the bottom
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture294.jpg
New box in Silver v old box.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture295.jpg
Had to swap the shifer towers over as they were different (its never simple)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture297.jpg
Almost complete, needed stickers n dash fitting
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture300.jpg
Taken Today, still need to sort a few things. Dropping the front is the first ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/L3VOM/Picture303.jpg
Big Steve - Raider
26-09-2011, 16:47
Whats it drive like Mista?! ;)
Ummmmm... Quite Nippy :D
I bet it is :)
Big Steve - Raider
27-09-2011, 09:53
Ummmmm... Quite Nippy :D
It was flippin nippy when it had 246bhp, so now it's got 300+ it must be BONKERS?! :eek:
Good lad! :niceone:
Anymore on this little bayboy!!!! :devil:
pascal-GT
11-06-2013, 16:51
very nice!
the job il very impressive:eek::agree:
:eek:
superb work to realize :agree:
B18ftMOJO5
12-06-2013, 10:25
Excellent work. Cant wait to this drive......:agree:
Looks like Flan has been flung. No longer a member. Shame, I wanted to see the development of this car.
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