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After fuming to dispare with my local dealer as i`m trying to replace all coolant hoses with original ones, all the part numbers I give them are no longer serviced !! I have top and bottom rad hoses, but that`s it !!
Where can I get a decent set of engine hoses?? samco now do matt black classic look hoses, but the rad hoses are about £150 for 2 !!!!!!!
Are the chinese copies crap or worth a look?? also radiators from valeo are £215+vat !!! where can I get a good oe looking one?? :confused::confused:
Raider1983
12-09-2013, 12:53
I bought a valeo rad about 2 months ago from valeo through sutton auto factors at 189 vat iincluded!!
After fuming to dispare with my local dealer as i`m trying to replace all coolant hoses with original ones, all the part numbers I give them are no longer serviced !! I have top and bottom rad hoses, but that`s it !!
Where can I get a decent set of engine hoses?? samco now do matt black classic look hoses, but the rad hoses are about £150 for 2 !!!!!!!
Are the chinese copies crap or worth a look?? also radiators from valeo are £215+vat !!! where can I get a good oe looking one?? :confused::confused:
have you try mike or cgb ?? pop up on ebay sometimes :) also give me numbers I can try my dealer , I use dialogys for my numbers :)
I bought a valeo rad about 2 months ago from valeo through sutton auto factors at 189 vat iincluded!!
dale can get rads
Yeah tried ringing Mike, but he`s away till next week, I`ve yet to buy anything off him, but there`s always good comments about him so I might give him a try?
CGB (tricky one) I`ve had very mixed results with them, some stuff ok, some other stuff over priced crap and expensive postage!
Any help on genuine mint/new coolant hoses ???
Also I need to source a exhaust system in good condition, can`t seem to get a sensible priced new one so if any one has a stainless used one and its not to big then please PM me.......
Started work on restoration of engine wiring loom shield, blasted shield and ready for painting (I`m I sad or what) !!
Started work on restoration of engine wiring loom shield, blasted shield and ready for painting (I`m I sad or what) !!
Nope not sad at all mate, once this is finished this will be one of the nicest 5's in the uk :)
Are the chinese copies crap or worth a look??
One of the lads on the Fb site has just bought a set. The ones he got are awful, bleed valves that were solid and runs that were too short. Maybe not all like that but why take the chance when you have put in so much time and effort to get everything perfect.
Yeah tried ringing Mike, but he`s away till next week, I`ve yet to buy anything off him, but there`s always good comments about him so I might give him a try?
CGB (tricky one) I`ve had very mixed results with them, some stuff ok, some other stuff over priced crap and expensive postage!
Any help on genuine mint/new coolant hoses ???
Also I need to source a exhaust system in good condition, can`t seem to get a sensible priced new one so if any one has a stainless used one and its not to big then please PM me.......
on your coolant hoses i know your going for oe but would you consider silicone hosing?
with my efi conversion i really wanted it to look oe so i just bought black silicone hoses, same oe look and the performance of a silicone hose?
sfs silicone hoses do them in black
I`ve been working on cooling system this week and a few more pipes arrived from France, I think the long one is a air pipe (not sure) when I start refitting them i`ll post all the genuine part numbers I managed to get hold of!!
PS I have both of the little carb coolant hoses now, so will post a list of genuine hose numbers when I have all the ones I can get from Renualt.
So many new items :smokin: looks great.
My local Renault has a few original hoses still in stock, purchased a lot of his old stock but when it was around £50 a hose for some reason I didn't buy it.
Flight666
18-09-2013, 19:08
Simply stunning what a great read but how the hell did you get your engine and associated gubbings that clean? all looks like new a credit to your efforts :)
If I can`t replace it with new, I replate everything or blast it then re-paint, every screw/nut and washer is new, every hose clip is new, I spend hours washing parts and I`ve been doing this on my drive with no garage for over 4 years!! (crazy hey)
I just love the little thing, you never know one day it might move! :crap:
did you get that link I sent you? I put this up on an Irish site, the comments are flattering
Pigsnake
28-09-2013, 22:22
I met John and saw this car today.The attention to detail he does is something else.:agree:.This is going to be one really nice 5 when it's finished.Credit to you bud.:)
Matt Cole
29-09-2013, 09:37
Brilliant thread this. Im amazed at all the genuine parts your managing to get from Renault? Your parts guy must be special! :agree:
Once again, thank you for all the nice comments about my car. Luke (pigsnake) came over and showed me what a finished one should look like! Lovely car and lovely guy.
I would like to thank him for his time and patience on Saturday.
Put a few more parts on the car, but need a question answering about the oil cooler pipes, I`ve bolted them up to the new radiator but they still move around and are they supposed to be like that??
Once again, thank you for all the nice comments about my car. Luke (pigsnake) came over and showed me what a finished one should look like! Lovely car and lovely guy.
I would like to thank him for his time and patience on Saturday.
Put a few more parts on the car, but need a question answering about the oil cooler pipes, I`ve bolted them up to the new radiator but they still move around and are they supposed to be like that??
yes mate
Is that, Yes mate the oil pipes do move around a bit? I just don`t want them spraying oil all over the engine bay!!
Is that, Yes mate the oil pipes do move around a bit? I just don`t want them spraying oil all over the engine bay!!
they should have side to side play in the square part of the fitting , ,as long the fitting is tight in the rad you will not get any oil any where
Yes, they are tight, but I have movement at the square end unions, if that`s normal then I`m happy. Thanks for your help. :)
I had a few hours on the car today in between rain showers!! A few current engine bay pictures to show slow progress!!
Can anyone tell me if I have the alternator wiring right? fitted new engine loom today!!:crap:
I've been looking at pics of my bay to see if I can answer (I can't) and though not perfect I thought my bay was quite clean but the pictures above are a different level, must get my zinc finishes redone.
Thoroughly entertaning read, and an awesome car. Surely the cleanest in the club?
If I was in any doubt as to what colour to paint mine, I'm certainly not now. Glacier brings out the best in the 5. OE in white=perfect.
Totally agree,I've always thought glacier is the best colour,and I've never owned one:cry:
The question is are you going to use it when it's finished or is it going to be a garage queen?
Alternator wireing is correct :)
Due to job loss this car is now for sale or I will mothball it for 12 months and start again, please see classifieds if interested or pm me, you can look through this thread to see the level of restoration.
Deeply saddened by this but if someone wants a concourse one which needs a little finishing off them please make an offer.
Car can be delivered to mainland UK for 25p per mile..:sad2:
mingblus3
19-11-2013, 16:19
VALE mate that is not good at all. I've been following your post from day one and was my kick up the arse to go and get another 5.
Surely you can just stop spending money on the 5 and put it away like you say.
Like Simon says, put it away, put things together without spending money on it, and hopefully find a job in the meantime, or push comes, sell off some of the new items to bring in the money but keep the car as a whole, as amount of time and effort gone into this car will be such a waste to give it away.
The car is now sold, sorry.........
Thank you for everyones kind comments and help over the past few years, you never know, when things improve I might be back?;)
Thank you and goodnight x
The car is now sold, sorry.........
Thank you for everyones kind comments and help over the past few years, you never know, when things improve I might be back?;)
Thank you and goodnight x
Glad you got what you wanted Vale, and i hope the new owner carries on the work you have carried out :D
Lowiepete
26-11-2013, 15:21
The car is now sold, sorry.........
...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:
As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.
Regards,
Steve
...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:
As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.
Regards,
Steve
Well technically yes, as people who do this kind of restore will never be happy with the finish. I am forever searching for new original parts to put on my car.
Big Steve - Raider
27-11-2013, 20:36
I considered buying this car! But didn't for 2 reasons:
Its just so be beautiful i'd be scared to drive/leave/use it
I lost my heart to a scabby Raider 10+ years ago now
Congratulations to the new owner! And comiserations to Vale
Mr Raider
27-11-2013, 22:53
...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:
As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.
Regards,
Steve
Nah, not always, are gt turbo's ever 100% finished?! half the fun ;)
jesus in the seat of a 5
28-11-2013, 06:36
Nah, not always, are gt turbo's ever 100% finished?! half the fun ;)
indeed.. they didn't come finished from the factory...:laugh:
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Spent an hour looking over the 5 today with mixed feelings. There is so much left and parts to source and things that I thought were completed still need sorting. Connected a battery to find windows don't work, central locking doesn't work, main beam doesn't work, interior lights don't work, Heater fan very noisy, some bodywork needs finishing, Front suspension sit's very high and the camber doesn't look right ( new shocks springs and lower arms from cgb fitted) all on top of the other work that still needs to be finished. (interior, door locks, carb, turbo, intercooler, pipework, exhaust, fuel pipes etc) On a + note i'm very happy with the body work and underside it's very good. when it's done I know I will love it as i'm loving it already:). Have sent turbo away for re ferb, found a brand new carb and intercooler so hopefully will have all the parts now to get it running.
Just 1 question where the clutch cable comes out of the bulk head should it run in front of the steering coloum then along the sub frame or behind it and along the subframe?
Big Steve - Raider
03-12-2013, 22:30
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Just 1 question where the clutch cable comes out of the bulk head should it run in front of the steering coloum then along the sub frame or behind it and along the subframe?
Run it where it wants to be without too many tight bends
Matt Cole
03-12-2013, 23:15
Run it where it wants to be without too many tight bends
Do it properly mate. It runs in brackets and clips behind the rack on the subframe then along the passenger side chassis leg.
I hope you will continue the level of effort that Vale has put in. Attention to detail is awesome!
:agree:
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
got Some new shiny parts for the 5 today ( new carb, new fog lights, new intercooler) thanks to Dale aka bigfoot:). And got my turbo reconditioned. I now have all the parts to get her running. :)
Nice meeting up with you Martyn, sounds promising with amount of work going into the car, and looking forward to seeing the progress. Cheers
Big Steve - Raider
13-12-2013, 12:04
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
got Some new shiny parts for the 5 today ( new carb, new fog lights, new intercooler) thanks to Dale aka bigfoot:). And got my turbo reconditioned. I now have all the parts to get her running. :)
There's a few quid spent right there..
There's a few quid spent right there..
Don't tell the misses. I told her it was £50 the lot more like £950;)
mingblus3
13-12-2013, 18:26
I have hunted high and low for a new intercooler. Nice
Raider1983
13-12-2013, 20:30
I've been looking for a new oe intercooler. Seems they are hard to find :(
Well spent the day working on the 5 today to take it that next step and try and get it running but every step forward I made I took 3 back
First job fit servo hose 5 min job but found servo upside down so had to remove master cylinder and refit servo.
Fitted coolant hoses, fitted turbo and down pipe with all brackets, Fitted carb, Replaced cracked fuel pipes and fitted clips on all other pipes, Fitted plug leads etc all ok.
Now lets see if it starts. It didn't.
Fuel pump not running so checked feed n earth to pump both ok so pump us. Fitted another pump now I have fuel :) but still wont start.
Checked for spark -ok
Checked compressions -ok
Checked valve clearences found all way out so adjusted still wont start.
Checked timing found distributor drive 180 degrees out so put right
WOO HOO SHE STARTS. :)
Checked oil feed to turbo found no oil getting to turbo. Fitted another oil feed pipe all ok now. Needs new 1 way valve in pipe
Topped up with coolant found water pump leaking
Also oil pressure gauge is reading very low and oil light flickers when idling so need to test oil pressure. That was my day today.
Next step test oil pressure, Replace water pump, fit new 1 way valve in oil pipe. Get running right :crap:
What should the oil pressure be?
If it's low what could cause it as it's had a engine rebuild. Would it just be an oil pump?. How difficult is it to replace oil pump? What drives the pump?
Ref : oil pressure, if you talking about the standard dash gauge? I wouldn't worry about it, if any, your lucky it works atall. :laugh: Best way to check is to plum in a after market mechanical one in the turbo oil feed line. Quick and simple. :agree:
As above, if there is an issue with the pressure, then the pump would be the first place to look, new internals usually sort out the problem, sometimes the pump housings can be the issue. Complete oil pumps are either daft money or no longer available, stay away from the cheap new ones on e-bay.
They make the same pressure as a gtt pump but can't provide enough flow;)
As above, if there is an issue with the pressure, then the pump would be the first place to look, new internals usually sort out the problem, sometimes the pump housings can be the issue. Complete oil pumps are either daft money or no longer available, stay away from the cheap new ones on e-bay.
They make the same pressure as a gtt pump but can't provide enough flow;)
cgb do an oil pump it's £125+vat says it's refurbished genuine Renault oil pump which includes new vein and rotor. Are they any good?
Or genuine Renault 1 is £365+ vat :crap:
cgb do an oil pump it's £125+vat says it's refurbished genuine Renault oil pump which includes new vein and rotor. Are they any good?
Or genuine Renault 1 is £365+ vat :crap:
All depends what you want really. £365 isn't cheap, but you know it's going to work. Like anything reconditioned- you occasionally get a bad one.
In my experience- unless you know the item to be perfect and of good quality then don't fit it. I've been bitten in the ass many times with "recon" spares. I call them spray and pray spares.
My advice- genuine if you can.
Is that 365 with discount , ??? Good price , always helps if you get good discount at renault
Help needed again.......Checked my oil pressure today to find only 2 bar oil pressure when cold at 4000rpm so not very good at all :crap:. Turning out to be a never ending project. Gonna have to get the sump off this weekend and have a look at the oil pump. Could anything else cause low oil pressure? Bit worried as it has had a bottom end engine rebuild costing £500 and new valves etc. When I blow through the banjo bolt hole in the block I get no pressure build up. You can hear the air blowing out the filler cap/ breather system. Could it be the oil pressure valve stuck open in the pump? or something else. The last thing I want to do is buy a new pump and find it has something else causing it
Sorted oil pressure problems so now we are back on track to get this baby up and running :)
Had a good day working on the 5 today. Engine up and running and is almost finished just a few clips to fit. :) and the heat shield when the exhaust gets finished.
Wow nice work , what was the issue with the oil pressure
Lowiepete
18-01-2014, 20:39
The last thing I want to do is buy a new pump and find it has something else causing it
Sorted oil pressure problems so now we are back on track to get this baby up and running :)
Honestly Martyn, don't you think that _how_or _why_ this was sorted would be the
_most_ useful information for anyone reading this thread? So often, I read of things being
solved but no explanation of the how and / or why.
Sorry, but isn't that a point of having a forum in the first place..? Rant over...
Regards,
Steve
Honestly Martyn, don't you think that _how_or _why_ this was sorted would be the
_most_ useful information for anyone reading this thread? So often, I read of things being
solved but no explanation of the how and / or why.
Sorry, but isn't that a point of having a forum in the first place..? Rant over...
Regards,
Steve
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=36033
Its all in there ;)
It might be worth looking first before having a rant at the poor guy :scratch:
Thanks jonny5
For those who don't know the oil pressure problem was due to some num nut not building the engine properly and fitted the wrong size main bearing shells. Caused me a lot of problems.
Lowiepete
18-01-2014, 21:45
It might be worth looking first before having a rant at the poor guy :scratch:
Excuse me, but I have quoted two fully consecutive thread postings. How am I, or anyone
else, to know that the answer is in a totally different thread? Not everyone consumes all
that there is to read on here, and why would we?
I stand by my original post! This isn't the first time I've come across this kind of labyrinthian
jump on here... :(
Regards,
Steve
Some more work done on 5 today. Fitted exhaust system, front bumper, fog lights, compensator valve, Bled the brakes 3 times but pedal is still a bit spongy, Red carpet and front seats fitted. Took it down the road today and done 10 miles in it with no major problems.
Got slight exhaust blow from down pipe area and need to re bleed brakes again. It did seem a little slow as if not getting full boost so need to have that looked at. But overall very pleased with how this weekend has gone :):) ( Had 5 forward gears and 1 reverse, both fans cut in as they should and no major leaks, Got home without being towed home :agree: )
Been long over due but spent the day on the 5 today and it's 98% finished :) :) :)
Fantastic, looks the absolute lick! Well worth your recent efforts Martyn :)
Go on, treat us to a 'to-do' list telling us what the 2% consists of :D
Get those rear seat belts tucked into the holding slots, some tyre dressing on, tow-eye cover sorted, speaker grille bonded on, plastic battery cover, suspension turret cap for the off-side.....so close now :yeah:
Nad-5GTT
28-03-2014, 18:24
Really love this car, my ideal standard 5.
to do list
1, fit towing eye cover and cable tie it on
2, nsf door card needs replacing
3, fit radio and speakers
4, engine tune up
5, fit turbo heat shield
6, fit fuse link to anti perc fan
7, full polish
8, MOT
9, see how fast it goes
10, Fit correct front springs as it sits too high
This project was started October 2009 so it's taken a very long time lol. You can't rush quality I say:coffee: :) :coffee:
A great looking car. Very impressive dear sir!
It's a shame John didn't get to complete it after all the hard work, so close. But that's been finished beautifully with the attention to detail a credit, lovely.
It's a shame John didn't get to complete it after all the hard work, so close. But that's been finished beautifully with the attention to detail a credit, lovely.
It is a shame he didn't finish the project he started many years ago. it's never nice having to give something up only half done but it still needed a lot of money chucked at it and I think I've spent 70 hrs + getting it to this stage. (would hate to think how many hrs John put into it)
The problem with projects if you loose interest it never gets finished or if you run out of money it doesn't get finished and I think that's where John was with it.
Has been hard work but I've never lost interest even when everything was going wrong.
I've tried to keep the standard as best as I could and think it's looking good.
All I need now is a few sunny days so I can use it.
Will meet up with you Julian soon if you want as your just down the road from me. Will be good to put the two 5's together
Will meet up with you Julian soon if you want as your just down the road from me. Will be good to put the two 5's together
That would good but remember J510 is a fair-weather kind of girl as well. Are you planning to do any shows this summer?
That's looks lovely, full respect to you and the previous owner :)
NB: Are phase 2 rear side cards going on the to do list ;)
Pigsnake
28-03-2014, 21:44
Looks very nice mate. Glad to see its nearly finished.:agree: I saw this car when John had it and I know he was gutted when he sold it. I will Look forward to seeing it in the flesh.:)
That's looks lovely, full respect to you and the previous owner :)
NB: Are phase 2 rear side cards going on the to do list ;)
If I can get some. Like rocking horse shit tho
That would good but remember J510 is a fair-weather kind of girl as well. Are you planning to do any shows this summer?
Going to French car show n mite try n do some more. Are you doing any?
Going to French car show n mite try n do some more. Are you doing any?
Hopefully this, Prescott and some others.
Woznaldo
28-03-2014, 23:39
Lovely project Martyn, I too know how these projects can take a 'little while', although I'm just trying to make mine go quickly round corners!
Interesting to read about your Oil Pressure issue. I currently have an issue that I'm trying to resolve and fear that a bottom end rebuild may be on the cards?
A quick point on the bottom end rebuild. I bought some main journal bearing shells (Vandervell) and they had the correct P/N on the box, but the wrong size in the box! In my case mine were too small so I knew straight away when the crank wouldn't fit!
Clearance checks should still be done twice after fitment to confirm everything is as it should be, so it doesn't really make any excuses for the poor quality of the rebuild?
Keep up the good work mate, the car is looking fantastic!
Woz
Putting my fully restored completely standard car in mint condition up for sale
No expence has been spared with the rebuild with the finest of detail taken place. ( I'd hate to think how much money and how many man hours has gone into this)
The reason I'm putting it up for sale is I really could do with the space and need a car I can use daily and not worry about it getting damaged wet or dirty.
For more information you can call me on 07789431252 or email me on martynpetrie73@yahoo.co.uk. ( I may not reply to emails instantly as I do work during the day)
£6750
jesus in the seat of a 5
28-04-2014, 19:45
ive replied on the classified, please see there, thanks, matt.
I'd move quick, I've a feeling this will sell fast.
jesus in the seat of a 5
28-04-2014, 20:40
I'd move quick, I've a feeling this will sell fast.
agree buddy....just have to convince Sadie tonight that 5...5`s is ok....:D
Pigsnake
28-04-2014, 20:51
Mmm good luck matty. :agree:
Hi Everyone, It`s John here the guy that started this project and put blood sweat and tears into it before I reluctantly had to sell it 80% finished!
Martyn if I had the money I would buy it back! I often think back to the hours and hours of painstaking restoration I put into that little car. Great to see it finished though! I`ve made a point of not looking on RTOC because it upset me seeing the pictures of my old car!
Congrats to however buys the car, you will NOT be disappointed!!!!
Regards
John
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