R5 gt 1.4t swap to b18ft

[ioshi_s_golf]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Here is my humble project. Renault 5 GT Turbo from the beginning was with the 1.4 turbo engine 115 hp. This is the car how it looks in the begining.

[ioshi_s_golf]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

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For 300 miles two times i change the big and shell bearings. And i decide to change the engine. So here are the pic's of the swap. The engine is from volvo 480 1.7turbo.

[ioshi_s_golf]

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The new engine is done only 63k miles and it's on good condition. So i start to put all parts together.

[ioshi_s_golf]

more of the work what i've done

[ioshi_s_golf]

It was time to put the radiator and the loom and to start the engine. The radiator is from vw mk2 or mk3 and the fan it's from vauxhall. Because the vw fan it didn't fit just not space. And here is the video from the firts start :D :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJWyh7ZXWQ.

The reason why the engine it didn't work normaly is the injectors didn't have minus. So i put cable and now i have the minus but the injectors was working on 100% so a lot of fuel and it was more than enough. I was thinking that the ecu didn't give minus but after that some of my friends told me that the ecu give the plus on signals. But the problem come from this that i change the cables which conect the injectors to the loom. I can't find from volvo 1.7t so i bought from r19 full injection. And they are on the other side the 19 it's from the gear box and the 1.7t it's from the timing belt . So the cables wasn't on the same line. So i cut them but i din't conect them corect. So this was the reason why i don't have minus on my injectors. But i find out this when i bought my second ecu's and loom. I just check what signals come to the injectors. I was amazed on two of the injectors i've got two "+" and the other two 2 minus. So i conect the cables in different way. And this time the engine start but after that turn off. I was thinking damm now what is wrong. So i start to unplug the sensors which are on the head. When i unplug the sensor which is on the right side of the detonation sensor. And the engine start to work but turn off when the engine is at normal temp. But i was happy that the engine start.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hello every one, so when i start the engine i go for a drive and it was good fun. I drove 250 miles on even low pressure than the std. So when i rich 250 miles i put the pressure to be at the std pressure and the car was nice. But it wasn't this what it need to be because the intercooler from the 1.4t was broken so i drove with this intercooler. After that i take off the intercooler and i put it with out. It was better but the air it was warm. And i start to work with the bumpers :)

[ioshi_s_golf]

more work

[ioshi_s_golf]

Next step will be to respray the whole car. Also i set up the oil cooiling. After that i start to polish my steering wheel.

[ioshi_s_golf]

more pics

[djinuk]

them bumper are going to be very difficult to repair mate, with regards to where the cracks are etc.. id personally buy another pair of bumpers and go from there bud, by the time your spent lots in sand paper and filler plus the fact it will quite possibly crack again it would be the best option i think.

Kind Regards

[Robbo]

interesting position of expansion tank, looks like it came from the factory like that. always wondered what the two blanked holes in the bulkhead were for. also note this guy has filled and smoothed the ph1 underlight trims

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hello again some more work i've done.

The plan with the car to be re-sprayed but it will be next year when i go in Bulgaria. Also to fit different intercooler, can somebody give mi advise which one it will be the best. I will buy 440cc injectors, walbro 255l/h fuel pump, garrett t3 or turbo from mitsubishi evo, also i will put mega squirt. The idea is arround 250 bhp.

Please give me advise

Thanks a lot :)

[TrixNFlix]

Nice work Yosif. :agree:
You need to change the standard cam to acheive some hp figures nearer to the 250 that you want. The standard cam is very restrictive. for intercoolers most on ebay will work just need to get them to fit. The most popular one for a short pipe run is used by fellow members schwartz and philg, have a look at their project threads for some ideas. ;)

[ioshi_s_golf]

Thank you very much mate. Which cam do you think it will be good for my project

[TrixNFlix]

Custom cam maybe needed for 250hp as the n/a 2.0 Volvo cam is supposed to be at it's breathing limit at 230hp. Member Dave r5 has acheived 233hp at 18 psi using this cam. Also need the larger 2.0 throttle. If you go down the custom cam route the standard cam can be ground to a piper 279 ( I think?) philg has had this done, expensive though as you need to have shims made up at the same time too. Is a 279 piper cam profile better than the n/a 2.0 volvo "e" cam? I don't know! Larger high impendance injectors will be needed, as well as fuel pump and custom downpipe. Fellow member scoff can take away the ecu boost limit, so you could use the standard ecu and boost module, thus saving money on the megasquirt. All these options Depend on your budget. :D

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hello again

the megasquirt it cost me only £100. I will fit it by my self and to make the whole settings, or to make the megasqurt to work perfect will cost me £150. So it's not to bad.

I don't want to drive with the std electronic.

What do you think to take cam from r19 107 bhp. I think this is better than this what you told me but will see what hp i will have with the r19 cam. :)

[TrixNFlix]

Maybe, we shall have to wait and see. :coffee:
Are you mapping it yourself then?

[ioshi_s_golf]

Yes and with one of my friends in Bulgaria

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Give the R19 cam a try, don't think anyone has really tried it so its hard to say how well it would work.

If you could get the spec of it it may help in determining how well it'll work.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hello every one, I have one question about garrett t3 stage 3. Can you give me some advise to buy it or not. Please help me :)

Thanks Joseph

[ioshi_s_golf]

It's very important to have somebody to help you :cooter:

[ioshi_s_golf]

Today my blow off arrive, thanks to REGGY5GT

[REGGY5GT]

looking good mate:goodJob:

[philg]

Custom cam maybe needed for 250hp as the n/a 2.0 Volvo cam is supposed to be at it's breathing limit at 230hp. Member Dave r5 has acheived 233hp at 18 psi using this cam. Also need the larger 2.0 throttle. If you go down the custom cam route the standard cam can be ground to a piper 279 ( I think?) philg has had this done, expensive though as you need to have shims made up at the same time too. Is a 279 piper cam profile better than the n/a 2.0 volvo "e" cam? I don't know! Larger high impendance injectors will be needed, as well as fuel pump and custom downpipe. Fellow member scoff can take away the ecu boost limit, so you could use the standard ecu and boost module, thus saving money on the megasquirt. All these options Depend on your budget. :D


faster than a e cam, we will find out next year ya puff ;)

[ioshi_s_golf]

Sorry for long time i didn't post in here. So just to say till what is my project. I bought Avo front coilovers in very good condition, bought them from a guy here from Rtoc.

Here are the pics of the suspension and before to fit it and after
http://media.snimka.bg/7934/022123557.jpg?r=0


Before

http://media.snimka.bg/6014/018282743.jpg?r=0


And after

http://media.snimka.bg/8063/022381128.jpg?r=0


After that i bought from one of my mates he's old intercooler which need to be fit

http://media.snimka.bg/8085/022425420.jpg?r=0


When i was driving the car the air flow meter get wet and some how i lost the top of the air flow meter and got wet. So the car was running very bad. And with mixture with the wrong temp. sensor the car start over flow with fuel and from the exhaust start to come fire :( And start bang a lot. So i change the air flom meter but the ruber pipe some how get snaped. So to the time when the engine i try to found whats wrong which eventually i found. So long story short the turbo brake down, because of the bangs. It was so loud that your windows can fell down :D .
So here is the result

http://media.snimka.bg/8134/022523988.jpg?r=0

This is the std T2

This week i will buy td04 from subaro, and 300lph fuel pump.
Now the plane is to buy parts for betweem 200 and 250 bhp. The td04 it's not the best option but this is what i will use in the beginning.
I planed to do the paint job this summer so maybe in 2 monts will paint the car, because now it's in very bad condition as you can see.

And i want to say thank you very much to Markey Mark and to Scoff, for all the patience and for all the advise what they gave me. Thanks guys

Will keep you posted when i have something new
Cheers for now

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hello again
so here is my new toy :) TD04L can some body give some info about this turbo ?
Now i'm waiting for the front clear indicators, and to buy 305L fuel pump :)

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[TNT ANDY]

Nice project - hope this goes well for you.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Thanks Andy
and now it's time for more updates :laugh:
The front clear indicatros arrived today. Big thanks to Big Foot


http://media.snimka.bg/8434/023123110.jpg?r=0

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Next week more updates :)

[ioshi_s_golf]

Well i think it's time for update :)

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And i bought new 259mm discs for the front brakes :)

http://media.snimka.bg/9165/024586268-big.jpg?r=0

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In one or two weeks will be fninish with this manifold.

http://media.snimka.bg/8159/022574246-big.jpg?r=0

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And it was time to paint the car from out side :)

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And i think it's time to show the car during the work :D

In the beginning


http://media.snimka.bg/5092/016438697.jpg?r=0

Just a bit after the beginning

http://media.snimka.bg/5092/016438686.jpg?r=0

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In the middle

http://media.snimka.bg/6014/018282743.jpg?r=0

Now:)

http://media.snimka.bg/9449/025152918.jpg?r=0

Soon will update again :)

[Markey Mark (BD)]

I spy picture of my manifold there, you going to copy design of it then?

[ioshi_s_golf]

Yes :)
i hope it's not a problem ??

[ioshi_s_golf]

The new manifold is ready. Well it's not the nicest but will do the work.

http://media.snimka.bg/9757/025768580.jpg?r=0

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I bought mega squirt, boost controler, start panel.

http://media.snimka.bg/9729/025712608.jpg?r=0


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So i hope this week to wire the MS :)

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[Ashy]

Where are you based? Doesn't look like Manchester! :confused:

[ioshi_s_golf]

Yep it doesn't look like Manchester at all :).

I'm from Bulgaria but i was in Manchester for a year. And now i'm back to work on the car.

[Trevhib]

I really like this project, keep going :D

[ioshi_s_golf]

I really like this project, keep going :D


Thanks mate :)

[ioshi_s_golf]

Some update from today :)

http://media.snimka.bg/9773/025801704.jpg?r=0

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;)

[ioshi_s_golf]

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Soon will have more update ;)

[matty j]

pics dont work buddy

[ioshi_s_golf]

pics dont work buddy


No idea mate i can see them.

Guys can you see the pics ?

[sieger]

Yep, the connection in the Netherlands is good :) nice pictures!

[Trevhib]

I see all the pics :agree:

[ioshi_s_golf]

New update from the last hour :)

Today I fit the Mega Squirt with new wiring. Just need to finish the down pipe and to put back the intercooler with the boost hoses and pipes, and the water radiator + hoses.
In the next few days will start mapping :) .

This is the first start with the Mega Squirt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWMw8qyCE8&feature=youtu.be

So happy :yeah:

[TNT ANDY]

Good work fella - I know that feeling.:agree:

[SCHWARTZ]

Project looks ace matey you will love the low down power and spool of the b18ft. How easy was the megasquirt to fit matey? What sensors etc... Did you need for it?

[ioshi_s_golf]

Project looks ace matey you will love the low down power and spool of the b18ft. How easy was the megasquirt to fit matey? What sensors etc... Did you need for it?


Thanks mate :)

It's not hard to fit the mega squirt, you need, ignition coil the original one from b18ft, tps, injectors, and temp. sensor the one on the right side of the detonation sensor.

The whole wiring for the Ms is around 15 cables and 2 relays one for the fuel pump and one for the injectors just need to double check this. You need also + from the contact key. If you want i can make scheme of the whole wiring and can send you pm with everything what you need for the Megasquirt.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Today the boost pipes and the water pipes all in place :)

It's not the nicest engine bay but for now it will be like this. I hope in a few months time to respray th engine bay.

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0144/026532360.jpg?r=0

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0144/026532363.jpg?r=0


Also need to buy slim vent for the radiator because there is not much space.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Finaly start with the down pipe :)

The first pic is before to fit the wheel spacers :)

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0150/026543201.jpg?r=0


And the pics of the first part of the down pipe.

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0150/026543200.jpg?r=0


http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0150/026543202.jpg?r=0


http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0150/026543204.jpg?r=0



Soon will add more pics.

[SCHWARTZ]

Thanks mate :)

It's not hard to fit the mega squirt, you need, ignition coil the original one from b18ft, tps, injectors, and temp. sensor the one on the right side of the detonation sensor.

The whole wiring for the Ms is around 15 cables and 2 relays one for the fuel pump and one for the injectors just need to double check this. You need also + from the contact key. If you want i can make scheme of the whole wiring and can send you pm with everything what you need for the Megasquirt.

That would be ace if you could matey.
Keep up the good work its really coming together now:agree:;)

[ioshi_s_golf]

That would be ace if you could matey.
Keep up the good work its really coming together now:agree:;)


Thanks bro :)

Will try on wednesday not to forget to make the list with all the wires. :)

[SCHWARTZ]

Thanks bro :)

Will try on wednesday not to forget to make the list with all the wires. :)

:laugh: Top darts.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Today was the firts time taking the 5 out with the MS did only 10 miles because the altelnator it's not charging the battery. Will see why and on friday will go mapping again :)

here is a pic of the down pipe

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0159/026562512.jpg?r=0

[ioshi_s_golf]

Update from the last hour :)

I have 2 bad news :(

1-st The injectors finish at 4K rpm and they hold till 5k Rpm and till 5k rpm the afr gauge shows 12.0. So I put the rev limiter to 4800 rpm .

2-nd The clutch slips on 5-th gear betwen 60-75 miles. After that it doesnt slip. But i hope soon will put new clutch with ceramic plates.

1 Good news :)

with the td04 and the new exhaust manifold i got 0.7- 0.8 bar at 2800 rpm.

[SCHWARTZ]

What injectors are you using matey?

[ioshi_s_golf]

200cc :laugh: The std injectors, need to buy bigger injectors. But first need to buy the clutch and after that the injectors.

[ioshi_s_golf]

Ok guys need help about the thickness of the ceramic plates because i'm going to make new clutch.So i need to know what thickness i need to buy. So the thickness of the ceramic plate is 3.25mm which is 0.12 inches and the next thickness is 3.5 which is 0.13 inches.

Which one should i buy ????

Cheers

[ioshi_s_golf]

Some update from the last few mins. I order the ceramic plates for my new clutch, and they will arrive on wednesday ;) . The thickness what i need is 3.25mm



http://racing-mania.com/data/images/962.jpg

[ioshi_s_golf]

Time for update

Decide to take everything from the engine bay to clean it and to respray the engine bay.

So some pics from today.

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0197/026638206.jpg?r=0

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Before :laugh:

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After :)

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Still need to do a bit of work on it to shine more but tomorrow maybe.

[ioshi_s_golf]

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[ioshi_s_golf]

It's time for update :)

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Finaly with new paint in the engine bay

Before ...

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0197/026638206.jpg?r=0

Ready for paint.

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0374/026992519.jpg?r=0

The result
http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0374/026992521.jpg?r=0

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/0374/026992522.jpg?r=0

Need to respray few other things and will put all things together :)

[Trevhib]

I love this project :)

[philg]

So much fresher with the bay done, the down pipe looks good to, keep at it :)

[ioshi_s_golf]

So much fresher with the bay done, the down pipe looks good to, keep at it :)

Yeah it looks much better resprayed :) , can't wait when i put everything in the bay . When everything is in, need to finish with the mapping of the car because the injectors were too small. So will get bigger ones.

How many miles you guys recommend to wait till i start pushing the car with the new clutch? I think 100 miles will be enough for the clutch to bed in.

[ioshi_s_golf]

I think it's time for update :)


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Also i fit bigger injectors 315cc and fit the ceramic clutch. Yesterday i beat audi s3 with 2 or 3 cars. I was with my brother in the car.

I'm running now at 1.5 bar :)

On this video we start from 0-160++ and i was with to much wheel spin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QWs1_NvFdY

On this video we did flying start with the audi S3 and you will hear that my car R5 just after putting 3-th gear start to work not very good. This is because the fuel in the tank got a bit low but after that was ok. And still beat the audi, and in front of the peope i just overtake him and after that im making this distance 2 or 3 cars :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azrW6FgrmIs

I hope on 9-th of June to go to a Drag race and time attack and will see how it goes there :)

[ioshi_s_golf]

Hi guys

what is your opinion to keep using the b18ft engine and to do some head work, bigger throttle body, Ep cam, bigger injectors ( I'm using ( now 304cc) and bigger turbo ( i'm using td04) and i think to buy td05 16g or 20g, or t28. Or to buy f7r engine with head from f7p and to use the td04.

At the moment my set up is:
Mega squirt, td04, tubular manifold, 304cc injectors. The boost is set up to 20 psi.

What do you think it will be better ?

Cheers :)

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Hi guys

what is your opinion to keep using the b18ft engine and to do some head work, bigger throttle body, Ep cam, bigger injectors ( I'm using ( now 304cc) and bigger turbo ( i'm using td04) and i think to buy td05 16g or 20g, or t28. Or to buy f7r engine with head from f7p and to use the td04.

At the moment my set up is:
Mega squirt, td04, tubular manifold, 304cc injectors. The boost is set up to 20 psi.

What do you think it will be better ?

Cheers :)

You know what my opinion is mate ;)

If you did decide to go F7R/P then i would upgrade the TDO4 turbo as that seems abit too small for the engine.

If your not after a massive amount of power then i would stick with the Volvo engine, the major part of work is done and you seem to have a fair bit of power under your right foot now. With a few more upgrades you could squeeze bit more out of it but if you only after abit more then this will be the cheaper option

Did you ever take it to drag strip and see what it done?

[ioshi_s_golf]

You know what my opinion is mate ;)

If you did decide to go F7R/P then i would upgrade the TDO4 turbo as that seems abit too small for the engine.

If your not after a massive amount of power then i would stick with the Volvo engine, the major part of work is done and you seem to have a fair bit of power under your right foot now. With a few more upgrades you could squeeze bit more out of it but if you only after abit more then this will be the cheaper option

Did you ever take it to drag strip and see what it done?

Yeah i went to the drag strip i had problems with second gear. When i'm racing and when i try to put second gear just it doesn't work. After the second or 3-th try i can select second gear and with this problems i still beat renault laguna 3.0 v6 207 hp. Just to say i use the long fork conversion Here is the video from the race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7ERmj9niw&feature=share

Well i don't know what power i have now. But since the race with the audi S3 i get use to the power and now it feels like that it's not fast. The power what i'm woking forward is 250hp or a bit more. I'm quite happy with the gear box it feels good on the drag and time attack. The gearbox code is jb3 009

[Markey Mark (BD)]

What time did you do on the strip mate?

I think with the Megasquirt you might be able to get to around the 250bhp with what you got but you will need to do a bit more to it (deffinately change cam) to reach it

[ioshi_s_golf]

What time did you do on the strip mate?

I think with the Megasquirt you might be able to get to around the 250bhp with what you got but you will need to do a bit more to it (deffinately change cam) to reach it

16.7 sec :cry:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

16.7 sec :cry:

Do you know what terminal speed it was?

Come on you should do better than that! ;)

[ioshi_s_golf]

From this what i remember i did 175km/h which is 109 mp/h

[Markey Mark (BD)]

From this what i remember i did 175km/h which is 109 mp/h

Thats not bad terminal speed mate, i'd say roughly 225bhp going on that speed

[ioshi_s_golf]

Yeah i think it's not bad as well, and i think that i'm a bit over 200bhp but no idea how much. The problem is it feels slow :laugh: .

So this is the reason why i want to get some more Bhp.


p.s So what do you think guys it will be better to go for new engine or to keep going with the b18ft ??