Uniroyal 195/55R13 80H TL RALLYE 340/55 U Tyres Group Buy / News

[Big Steve - Raider]

Further to these recent threads 1 (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=17684&highlight=uniroyal) & 2 (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?p=177500#post177500) regarding the sudden disapperance of Uniroyal 195/55 13 Tyres from all good tyre retailers; I've been on the phone today to a "Very Nice Man" from Uniroyal who has told me that the reason we can't find these tyres at the moment is:


THE MOULD IS BROKE!

He tells me that according to his system their is a note that says that production is due to re-commence soon when the new mould is finished!

His system also tells me that at the moment their is no date to cease production of these tyres (and the fact that they are going to the expense of having another mould produced is a good thing) which means they will probably be selling the tyres for a few years yet! :yeah:

Whilst I was on the phone with him however, I asked him if they would be open to us setting up a group buy for the tyres DIRECT with Uniroyal (or Continental as they are now) which he said it would be something they would discuss with us depending upon how many people would be interested??

So guys.... Who would be interested in a group buy of 195/55 13 Tyres??

[dangerous dave]

nothing wrong with a good set of oe sized tyres:cool: better news it they'll be funky fresh and not sat about in warehouses for ages before we get sold them:agree:

i could very well be interested as i will want a set of fresh tyres on my phase 2's:)

[5teve L]

What do they work out at ?

[Tinka_Dill]

Nice one for doing the research on that Steve... I would definitely take a set of four Uni's

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

:agree: I would be interested

[Brigsy]

Good work Steve, Depending on price id be interested in a set:agree:

[Purple_rob]

Nice one Steve, I'd defo have a pair straight away, but probably buy in a pair depending on cost.

Thanks for taking this one that extra mile mate.

Rob

[markg]

Depending upon the price I would be interested in a pair.

[Wallace]

Also interested if the price doesn't pull my pants down and...........:D

[chris_t]

I'd be interested in 4 :)

[jesus in the seat of a 5]

Im in big stevO....:D

[Alan]

dont forget mee!!
set of 4 please:)

[Big Steve - Raider]

I'm not really one for lists :innocent: so lets give one a try eh? :laugh:

Put your name down and how many tyres you'd be interested in then I can find out a cost based on the number of takers:

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess ;))
8) Alan - 4

[Russ B]

I'm not really one for lists :innocent: so lets give one a try eh? :laugh:

Put your name down and how many tyres you'd be interested in then I can find out a cost based on the number of takers:

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess ;))
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5

[djinuk]

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess ;))
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5
10)Djinuk - 5

[Mattw]

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I'd be interested if price is right, 4 please ta..

[reco]

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess ;))
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5
10)Djinuk - 5
11) reco - 4

[Big Steve - Raider]

:eek: Wow, were almost up to 50!? I'm sure we can come up with a group buy with those sort of numbers!?

[5teve L]

:eek: Wow, were almost up to 50!? I'm sure we can come up with a group buy with those sort of numbers!?


Club shop, I'm sure Clee can find space for 50 + tyres :cooter::laugh:

[Purple_rob]

Any news ?, tyres are getting quite hairy in this much wet.

Rob

[robbie506]

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess ;))
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5
10)Djinuk - 5
11) reco - 4
12) robbie506 :cool:

[Big Steve - Raider]

You want to clarify the amount of tyres you want Robbie otherwise I'll put you down for 506!? :laugh:

I'm waiting to hear back from Continental about the tyres & am working on a quantity of 50??

[The new Bill J]

:eek: Wow, were almost up to 50!? I'm sure we can come up with a group buy with those sort of numbers!?

Don't forget the RTOC rule ;)

[robbie506]

You want to clarify the amount of tyres you want Robbie otherwise I'll put you down for 506!? :laugh:

I'm waiting to hear back from Continental about the tyres & am working on a quantity of 50??


oops think 506 will be a few to many dont get through tyres that quick :laugh::wasntme:

it will be 4 depending on price otherwise 2 guess there will be delivery charge (courier) :) charge

[Big Steve - Raider]

Don't forget the RTOC rule ;)

Don't you worry Birthday Billy Boy, £££ will need to be shown before I get lumbered with 50 tyres?! ;)

[Sparkie]

you'd get lumbered with 33 of them according to the rtoc rule.

[Big Steve - Raider]

you'd get lumbered with 33 of them according to the rtoc rule.

And a 3'rd! ;) :laugh:

[J$£5GTT]

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess )
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5
10)Djinuk - 5
11) reco - 4
12) robbie506 :cool:
13) J$£5GTT - 4 :)

[VALE46]

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Nice work Steve I would have a set no probs ( Would like a rough guide price).:)

[Big Steve - Raider]

1) Big Steve - 4
2) Dangerous Dave - 4
3) Tinka_Dill - 4
4) Purple_rob - 2
5) Markg - 2
6) Chris_t - 4
7) Jesus in the seat of a 5 - 4 (No doubt at a guess )
8) Alan - 4
9) Russ B - 5
10)Djinuk - 5
11) reco - 4
12) robbie506 - 2 :cool:
13) J$£5GTT - 4 :)
14) VALE46 - 4

52 Up to now! :eek:

[dangerous dave]

mattw wants 4 for his phase 2s.

[The new Bill J]

Steve, have you thought about asking Michelin to see if they'll dig out the old mould for the MXV's? I know that a few years ago, 'due to popular demand' they started remaking the old TRX's that the 5 Turbo/Turbo 2's wear.

The MXV's are 1,004.7 times better than the Uniroyal's :cool:

[JRP]

Steve, have you thought about asking Michelin to see if they'll dig out the old mould for the MXV's? I know that a few years ago, 'due to popular demand' they started remaking the old TRX's that the 5 Turbo/Turbo 2's wear.

The MXV's are 1,004.7 times better than the Uniroyal's :cool:


LOOK OUT if that happend i would pass a laugh or two marts direction:laugh:

[J$£5GTT]

here we go better start another thread for the 4's an against's....
:rolleyes::upyours:

[Hoolio]

here we go better start another thread for the 4's an against's....
:rolleyes::upyours:

Eeeee another list.

[Big Steve - Raider]

Steve, have you thought about asking Michelin to see if they'll dig out the old mould for the MXV's? I know that a few years ago, 'due to popular demand' they started remaking the old TRX's that the 5 Turbo/Turbo 2's wear.

The MXV's are 1,004.7 times better than the Uniroyal's :cool:

:rolleyes: I'd have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Made contact with Michelin now ALSO! :rolleyes::wasntme:

[J$£5GTT]

its billys big night soon his hormones are running riot....:cooter::laugh:

[The new Bill J]

:ashamed:

:laugh:

[Mat E]

I would be very interested in a set depending on price. Nice one for your hard work.;)

[Big Steve - Raider]

Just a quick update for you all.... NONE! :mad:

None of the feckers have returned my calls....

I shall be phoning them both tomorrow & not being fobbed off again with the old... they will call you back! :mad:

Rant Over :D

[Purple_rob]

Nice one!, I'm wondering if I should continue driving the car it feels so dangerous on these crap tyres.

Looking forward to hearing on this one.

[Big Steve - Raider]

Quick update for you all...

I've been in touch with both Continental (Uniroyal) and Michelin again.

Continental have told me that they would need for us to be a company and provide accounts & credit references to get an account to then purchase directly. The best option therefore would be for us to go through one of their largest Wholesales's & buy from them direct. I've been in touch with one wholesaler at the moment & had a price of £45 +VAT per tyre which isn't that good considering were trying to purchase 50+?? I'm going to speak to another wholesaler they've given me & see what their price is??

The interesting news though is with Michelin... I've been in touch with a good guy there who has done some research and confirmed that there isn't a classic option for a 195 55 13 and agrees with me that he see's an opportunity here for them to help us out. He needs to speak to the main decision maker on Monday & will then come back to me then?? It'd be interesting if Michelin would be willing to support us?? :D

I'll keep you all posted when I hear.... :niceone:

As for you Rob, I don't think any of this is going to happen mega quickly so if you're tyres are feeling dangerous, please get yourself sorted out & safer sooner rather than later ;)

[VALE46]

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Hi steve , ref these tyres, I am in the motor trade and have a few good contacts in the tyre world I will do some digging as well for a bulk buy and see what I can find out, Thanks, John.:)

[Sam Fish]

I would be interested in a set if we can get a good discount. Otherwise Ill hold onto my pennies.

Steve, surely a RTOC member can use their company name as a distributor?
My old man may be interested. We wouldnt be able to place the order without the monies from everyone though. It would be alot of work to organise wouldnt it.
Storage wouldnt be too bad, if it was for only 2 weeks max.

The idea of buying direct is nice.

Good Efforts Steve

[jamie_8]

I've got some promising news regarding these tyres.

We've just had an online tyre ordering service from continental intstalled at work, so I thought I'd put in the tyre size to see if any info came up about them.

The latest is that there will be 46 uniroyal's available from continental from the 01/12/2010, and a few more available the week after. Once works added there bit on, they come out at £42 + vat.

If everyone's happy with this I could order these up at any point, the sooner the better though, just incase someone else snaps them up before me :)

[Hoolio]

That's really good news but I hope it doesn't stop the feelers going out about the MXV's which would be more desirable for some. (and me especially :))

[dangerous dave]

I've got some promising news regarding these tyres.

We've just had an online tyre ordering service from continental intstalled at work, so I thought I'd put in the tyre size to see if any info came up about them.

The latest is that there will be 46 uniroyal's available from continental from the 01/12/2010, and a few more available the week after. Once works added there bit on, they come out at £42 + vat.

If everyone's happy with this I could order these up at any point, the sooner the better though, just incase someone else snaps them up before me :)


thats great stuff jamie, if we snap them up they WILL roll out another batch keeping some on the shelf..

STEVE - if you can't get better anywhere else steve drop jamie a msg and he'll get you in touch with my old manager. this tyre garage is a chain of around 20 in the southeast so not some 1 man band outfit that could turn us over.. you should know the garage steve as you dropped off that engine loom to me there a few years ago:agree:

if this went ahead people could arrange collection from the garage, collect themselves or i could cart some along the m4, surrey meet, ace meet if its on.. theres garages near oxford, farnham, kingston, leatherhead, so some could be collected there i believe..

nice work hunting the price down jamie:agree:

[jamie_8]

thats great stuff jamie, if we snap them up they WILL roll out another batch keeping some on the shelf..

STEVE - if you can't get better anywhere else steve drop jamie a msg and he'll get you in touch with my old manager. this tyre garage is a chain of around 20 in the southeast so not some 1 man band outfit that could turn us over.. you should know the garage steve as you dropped off that engine loom to me there a few years ago:agree:

if this went ahead people could arrange collection from the garage, collect themselves or i could cart some along the m4, surrey meet, ace meet if its on.. theres garages near oxford, farnham, kingston, leatherhead, so some could be collected there i believe..

nice work hunting the price down jamie:agree:

cheers dave :)

As dave said, people could collect direct from the garage, or could be delivered locally as dave has just kindly volunteered to deliver them (you was on about getting a bigger van anyway) :laugh:

I'm not too keen on people collecting them from other garages tho, as tyres have been known to go missing whilst being delivered between branches before :scared:. Its better if all the tyres are in one place so I know where they all are instead of being scattered around the company.

Another option is for me to order the tyres in and then the club to buy the tyres and put them the club shop.

[robbie506]

i will have to take my name off the list as im selling up the 5 due to some tw@t breaking into it sorry guys.

[phase i 16 v turbo]

And so it starts:wasntme:

[Ian S]

Another option is for me to order the tyres in and then the club to buy the tyres and put them the club shop.About £2270. We probably could do that, but not if I buy 46 and only sell 4. You know what people on these lists are like.

It would have to be like the Orange dials, money up front from a good number of members then we purchase.

Are the Michelins more sticky than the Uniroyles?

If we have Michelins, could we ask for a more sticky grade? The OE MXVs were soft but weren't the coupé ones even softer?

[J$£5GTT]

And so it starts:wasntme:

:crap:

[J$£5GTT]

About £2270. We probably could do that, but not if I buy 46 and only sell 4. You know what people on these lists are like.

It would have to be like the Orange dials, money up front from a good number of members then we purchase.

Are the Michelins more sticky than the Uniroyles?

If we have Michelins, could we ask for a more sticky grade? The OE MXVs were soft but weren't the coupé ones even softer?

i would not want them to soft,for me they would just be used as a winter tyre an would want them to last as long as possible..
:)

[Sam Fish]

i would not want them to soft,for me they would just be used as a winter tyre an would want them to last as long as possible..
:)

The softer ones would be perfect as a winter tyre I reckon :)
Winter specific tyres are softer. A softer compound will generate heat quicker, and grip.

They will last ages in winter use, because a wet/damp surface doesn't scrub the tyres as hard.

I would be a definite for some Michelins! The 'coupe' ones even more definite ;) :rolleyes:

6 please!

[J$£5GTT]

The softer ones would be perfect as a winter tyre I reckon :)
Winter specific tyres are softer. A softer compound will generate heat quicker, and grip.

They will last ages in winter use, because a wet/damp surface doesn't scrub the tyres as hard.

I would be a definite for some Michelins! The 'coupe' ones even more definite ;) :rolleyes:

6 please!

:agree::)

[Purple_rob]

Do we have any time line on these? I contacted camskill because they gad a date of 20/10 on there site for pre orders, obviously this has now been revised with my contact and they say 01/12.

If I can get some on or around that date I will hold out for a full set. Either way I need a good set for driving in the snow. I sh&t my pants last year as it was lol.

Cheers

[Purple_rob]

Any update guys?

Rob

[going_downhill]

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I'm interested in 4 uniroyals but in no hurry. If a group buy comes together I'd like to add my name to list. :coffee:

[Alan]

Any news yet???:)

[gimme5]

just read all of this thread and would love to be able to buy mxv's again,even though alot of leg work as gone into the uniroyals,and as mentioned paying upfront and using club shop is the way to go,so we know who is committed to buying,hope we get a outcome,and would like to say thanks to the guy's trying to make this happen:agree:

[Purple_rob]

Just a quick update, camskills advised me yesterday their date for uniroyals is now 31/12/10.

[Purple_rob]

Update from Camskills

"I have checked our system again today and unfortunately production has been put back to January due to low demand for this size.
Again this is not definate and could change.

Appologises for this but the factory have taken the decision to produce other more popular sizes. Unfortunately they cannot produce every size all the time."

[going_downhill]

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Looks like the worn rubber will just have to last a bit longer then! I'm not giving in and getting budgets. :sad2:

[10cd32]

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http://www.allopneus.com/find?activite=1&type=3&marque=&d1=195&d2=55&d3=13&d4=&d5=&variante=


hello available in France

[car.crash]

Any news on this yet?

[dangerous dave]

not available still, no ones made a big enough order for them to bother or so i hear.. i doubt rtocs buying power of 50 tyres or so will get the order moving or a good price.:(

[going_downhill]

Would anyone be interested in a group buy of some tyres that are available? I'm just after a good set of tyres for the OE Speedlines, I know we dont have many options for the OE size but maybe some 185/60's?

[J$£5GTT]

Would anyone be interested in a group buy of some tyres that are available? I'm just after a good set of tyres for the OE Speedlines, I know we dont have many options for the OE size but maybe some 185/60's?

maybe...sure...
:)

[LeeJames]

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me too! :)

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

First post!

I would like a set of 4 Uniroyals or Michelins.

Anyone got an update?

I have found a supplier of Uniroyals but they are about £65 each which seems a bit stong.

Ever thought that you could run a similar vintage Porsche 911 for the same money?!!

[going_downhill]

First post!

I would like a set of 4 Uniroyals or Michelins.

Anyone got an update?

I have found a supplier of Uniroyals but they are about £65 each which seems a bit stong.

Ever thought that you could run a similar vintage Porsche 911 for the same money?!!


Where have you found Uni royals at £65???

[Gibbo69]

First post!

I would like a set of 4 Uniroyals or Michelins.

Anyone got an update?

I have found a supplier of Uniroyals but they are about £65 each which seems a bit stong.

Ever thought that you could run a similar vintage Porsche 911 for the same money?!!

Me too :)

whats the latest ?

Gibbo

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

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I have found a cheaper supplier. I will post details here before the end of the week once I have verified stock and age of stock.

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

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I have found a cheaper supplier. I will post details here before the end of the week once I have verified stock and age of stock.

Unfortunately, it turns out the two suppliers I had found both could not provide the tyres when it came to placing an order, so were effectively falsely advertising them.

I had a chat with Continental who distribute Uniroyal in the UK. They said they could not tell me anything other than the fact that it was 'out of production and no confirmed production run planned'.
When I asked if this could be expanded on, the lady said NO. She went on to explain that if I was a trade customer (aka tyre centre), she could tell me more. When pushed, she said that no tyre centres have requested them and therefore no demand from customers, which means no plans to produce them.
(I had in mind the broken mould issue but wanted the latest on this situation, however this was not once mentioned).

She said either I need to set up an account (with a minimum of 12 months prior tyre trading) to place an order for these tyres which they would consider or I need to put a case forward to an existing tyre centre...so pretty much what has already been discovered.

I spoke with Just Tyres, a tyre centre with several outlets and explained the situation. The chap I spoke with was very helpful and enthusiastic. He said he will find out from Continental what kind of order quantities they require to facilitate the production run. I know this is the same end result as others on here have arrived at, but one more asking can't hurt right? Not trying to interfere but am frustrated to think that Continental are of the opinion no one wants these tyres.

If it comes to it, I would like to ask them to sell the mould to Avon, who make various specialist tyres, a little hopeful perhaps!

Will keep this updated as/when I hear back.

Thanks for reading!

[IANMM]

cant Continental tell you what supplier had them last so they might have some in stock?

[IANMM]

:cooter:

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

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OK

Got some feedback from Just Tyres regarding the Uniroyal 195 55 13

They said that Continental WILL produce the tyres and they are still classified as current tyres which is positive, subject to an order of which they claim to have had none to-date.

The only way this is going to work is if we can get enough interest on here to put forward an order and payment to Just Tyres up front. With regards to logistics, they could house the tyres in their central warehouse in Milton Keynes to allow us folk to order them at our local Just Tyres centre for collection or fitting, or they could drop them off at a single address if someone is willing to provide temporary housing and P&P service.

Just Tyres are going to put forward the following scenarios to Continental for consideration and come back to us with pricing.

100 pcs 25 cars
200 pcs 50 cars
400 pcs 100 cars

He said they may consider a smaller run but he would judge that in conversation and will potentially go in at a lower number e.g. 52 pcs

Whilst we await feedback, let me know your thoughts and take a look at Just Tyres tyre centre network (http://www.justtyres.com/fitting-centre-details.php) to see if it might suit your location if we got to the point of placing an order!

I am in no way affiliated with Just Tyres, they were simply the first company I approached with this in mind.

Thanks

[Gibbo69]

sounds good to me mate , I will deffo have a full set ;)

[going_downhill]

Yep, i'd have 4 for sure!

[going_downhill]

Not so many people interested in this at the minute then???

[Gibbo69]

Not so many people interested in this at the minute then???

Nope :( shame because i need a new set too :cry:

[Fishey]

I spoke to continental today at work and they told me that they are expecting to manufacture the next batch of uniroyals during week 18 this year, so the first week in may. There wasn't a huge amount on backorder either so by the middle of may they should be readily available. :agree::D

[Gibbo69]

I spoke to continental today at work and they told me that they are expecting to manufacture the next batch of uniroyals during week 18 this year, so the first week in may. There wasn't a huge amount on backorder either so by the middle of may they should be readily available. :agree::D


Your a star :agree: let me know if you manage to get your hands on any :)

[Bass J]

Ive been searching the net ..found this ..only decent size they do is 185/60/13's in yokohama's (at the bottom) - http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/13__Yokohama_Tyres.php

I work for arnold clark ..fiat branch and the fiat 500's use 13" wheels i will try price a tyre for you all tomorrow :)

[Ian S]

I'd be interested in some Fiat Cinq sporting tyres. They're 165 55 13. The P600 seem to be discontinued and I didn't want to pay £76 for P700. :(

[Bass J]

ill see what sizes they have in stock ..then people with 5gtt speedline wheels can then go into fiat dealerships and get tyres :)

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

Anyone ever heard of or tried these?

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b1808s0p0

Also out of stock but it is another possibility should they ever get reproduced!

[Ian S]

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/AO32Rbltn.pdf

If you don't do many miles and mainly for summer use there is a 185 60 13.

[Renault 5 GT Turbo]

Anyone heard anything at all?

[phase i 16 v turbo]

Still got a set of 4 new on the shelf.

[phase i 16 v turbo]

That is 2 gone.

[Slammed 66]

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That is 2 gone.

Can you pm me a price for the other two please

[phase i 16 v turbo]

Managed to pick up a few goodies over the weekend.

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

Managed to pick up a few goodies over the weekend.

:agree:

[going_downhill]

Managed to pick up a few goodies over the weekend.

How much are these Mike?

[JRP]

Any NEWS on the MXV front :scared:

[Mattv6]

Checked with continental about uniroyals last week and they said it would be a 5 week delay from ordering to get tyres. Hope that helps.

[Jonny5]

Avaliable from Camskill again :)

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m73b0s4757p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_13_inch_R13_inch_-_195_55_13_195_55R13