longer track rod ends

[Schakal]

i am after a pair of track rod ends for a 5 , slightly longer than the standard ones
(about 10-15mm longer thread )
any ideas muchos appreciated .

[Lewis]

Not track rod ends but Clio williams have longer track rods.
Most places will not sell you the correct ones. Clio 16v track rods are shorter. I went to Renault bit obviously had to pay their prices. I think around £70 the pair.

[Schakal]

i know what you mean , the same as 19 16v rods .
but i dont really fancy changing the rods again ,pita of a job :disagree:

[Scoff]

I havn't come across any longer ones buddy. It's done in the rods as lewis says.

[Lewis]

In situ it might be a pain on the bench it's easy. This for your 9?

[Andrew Cooke]

twingo is longer than 172. I don't have any 5 ones to look at, how long are they?

[Bruce - BHPerformance]

Anyone got the measurements and thread size for both clio and williams track rods?

I am after longer ones for my megane and wondered if these will fit.

[Schakal]

i have a spare 19 16v rod and its longer than the bog standard R9/11 one
and same length as the r9 t and r9 gtx .
so the rods are allready as long as they get on the r9 gtx rack i am using ,i will try to check more accurately and see how much thread is going into the rod from the rod end once all alligned on a laser tracker .

at the moment i am modifying some shock absorbers with 15mm extended holes
to bolt to the hub , than getting 1.6 megane shafts (thats where the subframe came off)
which are 15mm longer than r9 ones .

can someone confirm above sounds right pls ??

[Schakal]

i used the r19 track rod ends which are around 10-15mm longer to take up the
extra 15 mm on the new track . however where it bolts to the hub is off center on
these and they are handed opposed to the ones on R5 and 9 . i believe this is due to
extra caster on the R19 .
not sure these will give me problems as i am using standard r9 wishbones :scratch:

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now after everything is extended 15 mm (driveshafts ,track rod ends , shock to hub mountings , wishbones pushed out 15mm )
i took the car for a laser tracking , wheels are facing straight ahead now however
my camber is
passenger side = half a degree neg camber
driver side = 0.35 of a degree positive camber

looking at the screen on the tracking equipment , the driver side reading only
just goes in to the red zone . i have allready ordered camber correction bolts
and i am going to get this fixed . any ideas what sort of camber i should get them set up to , for road use ??


also i have been told they cant see the caster on this machine they are using .
where can i get this looked at ??

[Andrew Cooke]

the offset will be to clear the wheels on lock

[Schakal]

the offset will be to clear the wheels on lock

hi mate ,do you mean so that the wheels dont hit the track rod ends ??


got a pair of 19 16v wishbones in front of me here ,they seem to positioning
the ball joints towards the front of the car more as well .
if i remember correctly , ball joints sit central on standard r9 wishbones .
do you reckon i have to use the 19 wishbones to match the track rod ends ?

[Andrew Cooke]

hi mate ,do you mean so that the wheels dont hit the track rod ends ??


got a pair of 19 16v wishbones in front of me here ,they seem to positioning
the ball joints towards the front of the car more as well .
if i remember correctly , ball joints sit central on standard r9 wishbones .
do you reckon i have to use the 19 wishbones to match the track rod ends ?

yep that.

Use whichever wishbones fit best.

[Schakal]

yep that.

Use whichever wishbones fit best.


lol ,they both fit fine :)
but i imagine 19 ones will support caster which is for better
cornering right ?