Help Needed

[wolsty24]

Anyone close willing to come ant take a look at my 5 as ive put the engine back in and theres loads of pipes etc that i have no idea where they should go, im new to 5gtt and am desperate to get her running:sos:

[TrixNFlix]

Hi steven would love to help but just haven't got the time, trying to sort cars out for national day etc. Best thing i can offer is get some pics up of what stage your at in the engine bay and we can all talk you through it. :)

[wolsty24]

ok bud ill get some pics up, be warned theres a lot to do.....

[J$£5GTT]

ok bud ill get some pics up, be warned theres a lot to do.....


one thing at a time,be fine bud.
:):agree:

[TrixNFlix]

one thing at a time,be fine bud.
:):agree:

:agree:
we'll sort it dude:)

[wolsty24]

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[wolsty24]

i think it would be easier if people just looked at it and directed ? As i said im new to 5s im a punto gt man really but just love the r5. I know theres no alternator or coolant and oil breather pipes cause ive been gathering spares over the past year hence theres still alot to do. Im gratefull for all help thanks steve.

[TrixNFlix]

Steve, any chance you can take a picture straight in front of the car looking down, so you get the full bay in makes it a bit easier.

[wolsty24]

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[wolsty24]

ok pal ill do it now

[wolsty24]

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[TrixNFlix]

Ok for starters looking at the water pump from the bottom up:

big outlet at the bottom goes to bottom radiator outlet
Next one goes to right and side bottom header tank
Biggest water pump outlet goes to top of rad ( should have a thermostat in this and a bleed nipple on it)
Next goes to the top side swirl pot outlet

[wolsty24]

i dont have any coolant pipes yet or alternator they are next on the list m8.

[TrixNFlix]

Well you need to tell us which bits you want sorting first :D

[wolsty24]

ok where to begin,1 where do the oil pipes go to from above the filter ?
2 the yellow pipe that has a metal t-piece has a union on the other end so ive screwed it to the base of the oil feed pipe for the turbo, is this correct ?
3 where does the pipe that comes from the left of the yellow t-piece, as you look at it go to ?
4 on the sump pan at the front of the engine theres a red silicone 90 degree hose, what goes to that ?
5 on the left of the carb lobster there is two outlets what goes on to the back outlet ?
6 where does the tdc sensor bolt to on the engine ?
7 ive already established that the accelorator cable between a phase 1 and 2 are different as one mounts from the left and the other from the right, my cable should mount from the left but as the engine is not from this car the carb brackets say it should mount from the right. Would buying the other cable cure my problem or is it not that simple ?

[TrixNFlix]

1 oil pipes above the filter go to the side of the rad on the gtt, like a cheap built in cooler,this is assuming you have the gtt rad?

[Shane P]

ok where to begin,1 where do the oil pipes go to from above the filter ?
2 the yellow pipe that has a metal t-piece has a union on the other end so ive screwed it to the base of the oil feed pipe for the turbo, is this correct ?
3 where does the pipe that comes from the left of the yellow t-piece, as you look at it go to ?
4 on the sump pan at the front of the engine theres a red silicone 90 degree hose, what goes to that ?
5 on the left of the carb lobster there is two outlets what goes on to the back outlet ?
6 where does the tdc sensor bolt to on the engine ?
7 ive already established that the accelorator cable between a phase 1 and 2 are different as one mounts from the left and the other from the right, my cable should mount from the left but as the engine is not from this car the carb brackets say it should mount from the right. Would buying the other cable cure my problem or is it not that simple ?

4. Turbo oil return hose. Starting from the sump end, the 90 degree hose connects to a metal pipe and then to another 90 degree hose and finally to the bottom of the turbo.

5. Loop them together

6. Above the flywheel

:)

[TrixNFlix]

2 yellow pipe is not on the gtt as standard, could be part of an after market oil pressure / temp gauge, not sure why it has a t piece either :scratch:

[TrixNFlix]

3 are we still on about the t piece from question 2?

[Shane P]

2 yellow pipe is not on the gtt as standard, could be part of an after market oil pressure / temp gauge, not sure why it has a t piece either :scratch:

2-3. It may be coming from the AEI, in which case one end would connect to the very back lower port on the carb and the other free end most likely to a D.V.

[TrixNFlix]

7 think you can change the brackets on the carb.

[wolsty24]

3 are we still on about the t piece from question 2?
yes pal ans the other end does go the AEI.

[TrixNFlix]

2. It may be coming from the AEI, in which case one end would connect to the very back lower port on the carb and the other free end most likely to a D.V.

Yeah i thought about that but one ends got a union on it. The diameter of that black hose coming off the t piece looks massive too.:eek:

[wolsty24]

7 think you can change the brackets on the carb.
The cable had both the brackets already attatched to them so i changed them over but it doesnt connect to the throttle lever on the carb in any way ?

[modfather]

i got loads of hoses and a alternater if you want them.i thought these pics would be helpfull theres pics of where the coolant hoses go the oil feed pipes and the breather pipes.:)

[TrixNFlix]

so steven ypou have the aei connected to the turbo oil feed line?

[wolsty24]

Yeah i thought about that but one ends got a union on it. The diameter of that black hose coming off the t piece looks massive too.:eek:
your right it is a thick pipe which is why i never pumbed it to the carb ?:scratch:

[TrixNFlix]

The cable had both the brackets already attatched to them so i changed them over but it doesnt connect to the throttle lever on the carb in any way ?

need to change the linkage on the back of the carb

[wolsty24]

so steven ypou have the aei connected to the turbo oil feed line?
yes pal at the end of the thin yellow pipe theres a union and a place for it to screw in to at the base of the oil feed for the tubby, i just assumed thats where it went but also dont understand why vac pipes would have an oil feed going in to it ?

[TrixNFlix]

your right it is a thick pipe which is why i never pumbed it to the carb ?:scratch:

Ok need to use some vaccum hose with an internal diameter of 3mm or 5mm with a t piece to match (if you using a dump valve) so you will hook up the aei, outlet on the right hand side of the inlet manifold neck and dump valve.

[wolsty24]

i got loads of hoses and a alternater if you want them.i thought these pics would be helpfull theres pics of where the coolant hoses go the oil feed pipes and the breather pipes.:)
any and all help is welcomed pal what do you want for what i need, i know you cant put a price on a miracle lol.

[TrixNFlix]

yes pal at the end of the thin yellow pipe theres a union and a place for it to screw in to at the base of the oil feed for the tubby, i just assumed thats where it went but also dont understand why vac pipes would have an oil feed going in to it ?

feck nows mate, probably would be best to strip all the pipes off this engine and start again, doing one thing at a time with our guidance

[wolsty24]

Ok need to use some vaccum hose with an internal diameter of 3mm or 5mm with a t piece to match (if you using a dump valve) so you will hook up the aei, outlet on the right hand side of the inlet manifold neck and dump valve.
i am planning on using a dumper so i will do that and ditch the yellow pipe and union all together.

[wolsty24]

feck nows mate, probably would be best to strip all the pipes off this engine and start again, doing one thing at a time with our guidance
owch :( i know what you mean pal as the piping was already on the shell when i bought it as i couldnt let it go to the scrappy, im out of my depth with this one me thinks.

[modfather]

any and all help is welcomed pal what do you want for what i need, i know you cant put a price on a miracle lol.


what i will do is i will sort out what pipes/hoses i got tomorrow and i will get a list sorted and sort out a price then :)

[wolsty24]

what i will do is i will sort out what pipes/hoses i got tomorrow and i will get a list sorted and sort out a price then :)
sounds good pal i appreciate the help.

[TrixNFlix]

owch :( i know what you mean pal as the piping was already on the shell when i bought it as i couldnt let it go to the scrappy, im out of my depth with this one me thinks.

Nah mate, you not out of your depth, just confusing yourself with all the ****e that was on there before you got it. Start from scratch with our help and it'll start to make sense:agree::)

[TrixNFlix]

Modfather (rob) is a good lad he'll give you a good price ;):agree:

[modfather]

Modfather (rob) is a good lad he'll give you a good price ;):agree:


:laugh::laugh::agree:

[wolsty24]

looking at the diagram rob put up of the oil pipework, there seems to be something like a bolt or a sensor under the banjo bolt for the turbo oil feed ? could be a sensor for the dash clocks maybe ? just a thought.

[wolsty24]

1 oil pipes above the filter go to the side of the rad on the gtt, like a cheap built in cooler,this is assuming you have the gtt rad?
looking at the diagram im just missing the pipe ends that go to the rad from the flexies, there are two inserts on the rad for these that just have plastic blanking caps on.

[TrixNFlix]

looking at the diagram rob put up of the oil pipework, there seems to be something like a bolt or a sensor under the banjo bolt for the turbo oil feed ? could be a sensor for the dash clocks maybe ? just a thought.

Yeah mate thats the for the standard oil pressure gauge, alot of them on the gtt dont work any more or intermittently.

[wolsty24]

Yeah mate thats the for the standard oil pressure gauge, alot of them on the gtt dont work any more or intermittently.
so i could just put a bolt in there and the yellow pipe things sorted ?

[TrixNFlix]

looking at the diagram im just missing the pipe ends that go to the rad from the flexies, there are two inserts on the rad for these that just have plastic blanking caps on.

should just thread into the rad, if they are missing off your rubber pipes they are knackered

[wolsty24]

should just thread into the rad, if they are missing off your rubber pipes they are knackered
bugger, kenobi must have chopped them before he sold me the motor, better ad em to the shopping list.

[TrixNFlix]

so i could just put a bolt in there and the yellow pipe things sorted ?

you could put a bolt into the turbo oil feed line or an after market oil pressure gauge capillary line, or electric sender unit could be fitted there. The yellow vaccum hose cant be used here as a cheap capillary line as oil will make it perish.

[modfather]

bugger, kenobi must have chopped them before he sold me the motor, better ad em to the shopping list.


think i got them too :laugh:

[TrixNFlix]

bugger, kenobi must have chopped them before he sold me the motor, better ad em to the shopping list.

He could of been using a separate oil rad to hook the rubber hoses up too.

[wolsty24]

on the frontal pic to the right of the dizzy cap in between the two plugs, what is the barrel looking sensor with a thread on it ? i only put it there cause ive seen it there on other peoples engine pics.

[TrixNFlix]

knock sensor mate

[modfather]

on the frontal pic to the right of the dizzy cap in between the two plugs, what is the barrel looking sensor with a thread on it ? i only put it there cause ive seen it there on other peoples engine pics.


i brought a gt turb a while back for parts and that sensor was in the gearbox yeap in the gearbox :sad2: right near the passenger drive shaft

[wolsty24]

He could of been using a separate oil rad to hook the rubber hoses up too.
can you still get the complete pipes and where from ?

[wolsty24]

i brought a gt turb a while back for parts and that sensor was in the gearbox yeap in the gearbox :sad2: right near the passenger drive shaft
i was worried bout putting engine pics up in case id done something similar and made a t**t of myself, some forums are very unforgiving.

[TrixNFlix]

i was worried bout putting engine pics up in case id done something similar and made a t**t of myself, some forums are very unforgiving.

Making mistakes is the only way we learn :agree::D

[wolsty24]

Making mistakes is the only way we learn :agree::D
very true

[modfather]

i was worried bout putting engine pics up in case id done something similar and made a t**t of myself, some forums are very unforgiving.


:agree: but you can get away with it if you just brought the car you can say thats how it was when i got it :wasntme: :laugh:

[wolsty24]

:agree: but you can get away with it if you just brought the car you can say thats how it was when i got it :wasntme: :laugh:
that old chetnut ;)

[royz]

if your still stuck give us a shout and ill pop over. only in stockport

[wolsty24]

ok pal would really appreciate that just let me know whens good.

[royz]

whens best for you just drop us a pm