and the raider number is ?????

[matt1334]

strange question this one, but i have been reading a profile of a fellow member and also a fellow raider owner and he states his raider is number xx of a 1000 made, how do you find what number raider it is?
sorry if the question is a bit cuckoo but im eager to know
thanks
:).

[SCHWARTZ]

i didnt think they were numbered but if they are id like to know.

[The new Bill J]

They were never numbered.

Has anyone ever had the figure of 1000 verified from anywhere reliable? As far as I'm aware, it's just one of the many myths that surround the Raiders.

[SCHWARTZ]

dose that mean thet raiders dont have 180bhp standard then:laugh:

[JRP]

I know the clio V6's are numberd, didnt think renault were that orginised back in the day :rolleyes:

[TNT Tricky Nicky]

172 exclusives make me laugh, 172 made in green and given a number out of 172 but only something like 30 made in monaco, which one would you think was exclusive :laugh:

[Adam 005]

I know the clio V6's are numberd, didnt think renault were that orginised back in the day :rolleyes::)

Williams clio were numberd.mine is number 215:)
Wiliams clio 2 and 3 were not numberd:):):):):):):):):):)

[HULK]

172 exclusives make me laugh, 172 made in green and given a number out of 172 but only something like 30 made in monaco, which one would you think was exclusive :laugh:

There were only 31 sunflower yellow ph1 172s which is by far the rariest, were quite a few oddessey blue ones

[Sparkie]

there are only 8. le car 2 turbos registered with the DVLA..... and i own one of them , as does penfold, phildini and robbo off r5gordini... a VERY select group .:p

[Adam 005]

There were only 31 sunflower yellow ph1 172s which is by far the rariest, were quite a few oddessey blue ones

and even less acid yellow ones maybe:agree::disagree:

[Andrew Cooke]

there are only 8. le car 2 turbos registered with the DVLA..... and i own one of them , as does penfold, phildini and robbo off r5gordini... a VERY select group .:p

I think my mate's mum had one, probably from new, it was certainly a le car.

[J$£5GTT]

mines number 666


:devil:

[Bigfoot]

mines number 666


:devil:

Oi that was mine this weekend, made me £190 in 3 card poker when I got 3 6s :D

[raider_gtt]

They were never numbered.

Has anyone ever had the figure of 1000 verified from anywhere reliable? As far as I'm aware, it's just one of the many myths that surround the Raiders.

thats wrong go to renault tec and ask them im the 2nd owner from new and i have a paper saying 53 off 1000 made mate the other thing is there are defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500 on each year of raider gtt i should no as i have number 53 of 500 on a g reg you should beable to fine out though renault main dealers with a chassis number as well im told by renault some years ago

[James5]

thats wrong go to renault tec and ask them im the 2nd owner from new and i have a paper saying 53 off 1000 made mate :agree::agree:

Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?

[raider_gtt]

Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?


no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!

[TrixNFlix]

no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!

Steady on dude. :sad::laugh:

[car.crash]

cars are only put on a plate as they are sold. so how can there be exactly 500 sold each year? im sure i heard of a raider being on a J plate so that ruins your description of 500 G and 500 H ??
show us the paper please, would be nice to see some history :)

[raider_gtt]

Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?



anyways YOU SOULD NO THIS BEING A South East Regional Rep so it says on here :confused::confused:

[Shane P]

defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500

That's what i use to think to. How do you account for the J plate Raiders then ?

[raider_gtt]

cars are only put on a plate as they are sold. so how can there be exactly 500 sold each year?
show us the paper please, would be nice to see some history :)

renult numbered these from start to finsh other wise HOW DO YOU THINK THEY KONW THERE IS 1000 MADE MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
well thats how they done it my car come from a canterbury kent main dealer which told me what this white piece of paper was with a dark blue 53 on it was its a4 size it dont have anything other than this on it as they sold my car to the 1st owner other than me mate

[raider_gtt]

That's what i use to think to. How do you account for the J plate Raiders then ?


they ARE NOT RAIDERS THEN END OFF UNLESS they were bought as shell and them taken to dvla to be put on the road after that time



may i add tho i have never seen a j reg raider ph 2 j reg yes but they would be nomal one NOT RAIDERS

[car.crash]

renult numbered these from start to finsh other wise HOW DO YOU THINK THEY KONW THERE IS 1000 MADE MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
well thats how they done it my car come from a canterbury kent main dealer which told me what this white piece of paper was with a dark blue 53 on it was its a4 size it dont have anything other than this on it as they sold my car to the 1st owner other than me mate

oh i see, now its all made clear :agree:

:scratch:

[dangerous dave]

they ARE NOT RAIDERS THEN END OFF UNLESS they were bought as shell and them taken to dvla to be put on the road after that time



may i add tho i have never seen a j reg raider ph 2 j reg yes but they would be nomal one NOT RAIDERS

i believe they are stated as raiders in the V5, they are real, its a fact and someone can prove this if they choose to do so..

this is the renault turbo owners club, here for 15 years or so and no one has ever come up with proof of a limited run of raiders.. i've been here 5 years and im still waiting:)

they were a special, not a limited...

[raider_gtt]

i Believe They Are Stated As Raiders In The V5, They Are Real, Its A Fact And Someone Can Prove This If They Choose To Do So..

This Is The Renault Turbo Owners Club, Here For 15 Years Or So And No One Has Ever Come Up With Proof Of A Limited Run Of Raiders.. I've Been Here 5 Years And Im Still Waiting:)

They Were A Special, Not A Limited...

As I Said I Have Had My Car 10 Years + Now They Are Limited Thats Y There Are Less Then 300 Left On And Off The Road Now I Have This Info Dont Care If You Lot Beleave Me Or Not Other Than That Get On With It

[Shane P]

http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o441/Chimp2k/raider3.jpg

Why don't you show us that piece of paper that you have :)

[car.crash]

i used to have a raider too but forgot to forward the papers on.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n105/marcsmith1481984/Untitled.png

[Kris M]

:laugh::wasntme:

[Tinka_Dill]

Lmfao!!

[dangerous dave]

:gagged:

[Matt Cole]

As I Said I Have Had My Car 10 Years + Now They Are Limited Thats Y There Are Less Then 300 Left On And Off The Road Now I Have This Info Dont Care If You Lot Beleave Me Or Not Other Than That Get On With It

Oh dear god! I've been a member sice 97, met some complete renault nuts (eat,**** and breath etc), both my brothers have Raiders (probabbly one of the most common 5gt's left) and no one has ever mentioned a raider numbering system, (NOT EVEN RENAULT DEALERS!)

I would advise putting us all right with proof of your documentation, for the clubs sake if anything.:sad2:

[Brigsy]

Another thread to add to the rtoc gold archive:laugh:

[CHUNK The Goonies]

ive got a raider and i believe him, mine is number 501:laugh::wasntme:

[Adam 005]

http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o441/Chimp2k/raider3.jpg

Why don't you show us that piece of paper that you have :)
just done a reg check and this comes back as a raider:agree::agree::agree:

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

Question is who owns a 1.7 twin turbo raider??? ;)

[Yellow]

I'm sure I may have seen a f plate raider. I wanna see this bit of paper. My mate owns a raider and would love to no what number his is if there is such numbering system. If I had a bit of paper with the actual no on it I'd post it straight away.

[D4WNO]

Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?


no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!

No you're not, what? He hasn't said that you ARE anything?! :scared:

How many times have I asked you to stop jumping to conclusions and thinking everyone is having a go? They simply asked to see what this numbered bit of paper looks like. So could you please post a picture of it as nobody has ever seen one before?

[James5]

anyways YOU SOULD NO THIS BEING A South East Regional Rep so it says on here :confused::confused:


Mate no offence was meant it's a genuine curiosity just because I have south east area rep under my username does not mean I know everything but enough to help. If you have the paper what's the harm in sharing so we can all see it's actually what renault did as I have known a few peeps who have owned raiders but had no details of the numbers.

I have also owned various 5 gtt's for over 10 + years and worked on many others in these years no one has ever mentioned there raider being numbered. If you can't show the information why comment on this thread saying you have the alleged info but can't show it.

Not to sure why your getting so irrate when I asked nicely makes me think something doesn't ring true.

[clee]

Surely if they were numbered they would carry a plate or something ? Rare and exclusive models normally do ......K002807 :p

[Gttnutter]

Ok so thers a J plate raider which turns out true, but regards being numbered maybe the 1st owner was fooled with a bit of paper with blue on it.

Maybe the sales guy needed to sell your one to get his end of month bonus

I cant picture it to be honest

[Gttnutter]

i used to have a raider too but forgot to forward the papers on.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n105/marcsmith1481984/Untitled.png

Sell it on ebay marc. must be worth a good few quid ;)

[Gttnutter]

Also as clee sais, i would have thought there would be a plaque like the williams

Are the liquid yellow clios plaqued ?

[Trevhib]

I can imagine there could conceivably have been 1000 made and could possibly have been numbered, even if it were nothing more than some manufacturing designation that wasn't intended for any sort of exclusivity or part of a pack to owners. If somehow this unlikely situation is true, it certainly remains unproven thus far. Everything else supposed here is complete pish though, especially the 500 G plates and 500 H plates :laugh:

Given the popularity of Williams numbering and how well publicised/understood that is, the idea that we've not heard about an official Raider numbering run/certificate/whatever until now is one that stretches the boundaries of probability a bit too far.

[Yellow]

I had a Clio trophy 312/500 plaque on the runner of the drivers seat and a megane r26 which was no 724 but didn't say of how many by the hand brake, think there were a couple of thousand of r26s not quite as exclusive as the trophy. I think it's only the f1 clios that are numbered not just liquid yellow ones. SHOW US THE PAPER.

[The new Bill J]

the other thing is there are defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500 on each year.....

It gets better :laugh:

[Bigfoot]

Thats a bit odd, the J plate one got registered on the 09/02/1990 but raider_gtt one got registered on 20/04/1990

Anyone know if the Vin numbers are in order of manufacture or how they are worked out? Once again the J plate has a lot lower number than raider_gtt one :confused:

[Coops]

interested in exclusive old numbered renaults? buy a williams ;)

[Mart]

More RTOC gold :laugh:

My understanding is that the Raider was introduced on G-plate and thus sold in the majority on that reg' mark, with several surplus models appearing on H and even J plate.

The 500 on G & 500 on H comment is vary vary vary vary (sic) incorrect.

[m5tt]

I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !

If and a big if at that, That Renault did infact produce documentation that indicated that the raider was a limited run with a unique indiviual number then I more than confident they would have provided the buyer or the dealership with more that just a number on a paper

I really don't wish to belittle you but that "number" you have could just be for example 'car number = "what ever" ' on there forcourt

[car.crash]

It probably says raider blue followed by the paint code.

[Adam 005]

[quote=m5tt;160956]I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !

it more than just a paint colour that makes a raider.
Leccy blue was an option you had to pay more for i think much like black and the pearls:):agree:

[m5tt]

I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !

it more than just a paint colour that makes a raider.
Leccy blue was an option you had to pay more for i think much like black and the pearls:):agree:

Ohh i thought they may have been production colours. I asume that this is the same as the silver 5gtt's ,And this is the reason for there small numbers :coffee:

As for the Raiders, I know the history and there reason for being But what I should have said was some thing completely different (so my bad :) ) , what I was indicating was while reading pistonhead adverts all I ever see is limited number only 1000 made, blah blah but in actual fact I see alot more raiders on there and other places than I do say Leccy blue ones as an example! but i hadnt realised that they werent production colours thus explaining there limited numbers

so thanks for the indication :agree: Sorry to the OP for a serious thread diversion!

[THE MASTER]

ALL RADIERS are just normal 5gtt's but with a special colour sceam. end of production tart up to to sell what they have left

nearly all manurfactures do the tart up for end of line production

[markey b]

you mean the raiders aint 1.7 16v like all the ebay adverts?

[Maka]

if you want to be hardcore
buy a megane sport Trophy
400 made only 160 available in the UK

real exclusivity that is!!!!

and i own one, nr 171.

in fact i own the worse f**kin one.
when ive finished with it itll be 171A or a burnt out shell.

thats more exclusive than the raider!, williams 1, clio V6, spider maybe?, R26 R, R26 F1 zzzzz yeah whatever. :crap:

i wouldnt mind a Fuego turbo bet thats much more exclusive now! or a gordini R8...

[Sparkie]

if you want to be hardcore
buy a megane sport Trophy
400 made only 160 available in the UK

real exclusivity that is!!!!

and i own one, nr 171.

in fact i own the worse f**kin one.
when ive finished with it itll be 171A or a burnt out shell.

thats more exclusive than the raider!, williams 1, clio V6, spider maybe?, R26 R, R26 F1 zzzzz yeah whatever. :crap:

i wouldnt mind a Fuego turbo bet thats much more exclusive now! or a gordini R8...

info from a year ago

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=4638

renault 9 is rarer than fuego apparently. need to get round to getting another list done.

[Gttnutter]

It probably says raider blue followed by the paint code.

449 is the paint code for raider

[Adam 005]

449 is the paint code for raider

sports blue is what they call i think:agree::disagree:

[THE MASTER]

you mean the raiders aint 1.7 16v like all the ebay adverts?
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss27/clubdelrenault/Hitoria/5_GT_Turbo_bleu_2.jpg

thats a 1.7 but no turbo infact its not even a gtt

[Sparkie]

GTE all the way and not a Nova in sight...:laugh:

[matt1334]

didnt realise this thread would stir it up...............


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[robbie506]

off topic but there was 5,325,900 renault 5 made.

[old skool turbo power]

well this is what i found a while back.pretty intresting imo.the web site is pretty good,realey nice pics if u can find them on there group outings :cool::agree:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gt-turbo.org/histoire/la-s-rie-limit-e-alain-oreille.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dclub%2Bsuper%2B5%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhgWEqFjxdtlfeuSLlUk7FTqwBdGVg

[Maka]

info from a year ago

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=4638

renault 9 is rarer than fuego apparently. need to get round to getting another list done.


i have a soft spot for the fuego.
i rekon it would look rather cool being retro and pumping out some good power!

wah!!! no wonder i cant find a 21T quadra on the cheap for a winter knock about!!!

there isnt that many left.

sad day

[Shane P]

well this is what i found a while back.pretty intresting imo.the web site is pretty good,realey nice pics if u can find them on there group outings :cool::agree:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gt-turbo.org/histoire/la-s-rie-limit-e-alain-oreille.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dclub%2Bsuper%2B5%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhgWEqFjxdtlfeuSLlUk7FTqwBdGVg

So the model is a Limited Edition, just not numbered. :)

[Trevhib]

Yes but if Renault didn't specify a number not to be exceeded, then it's not really limited in any way over and above any other GTT.

Like for example, the electric blue Phase 2 was only available from 1988 to 1989. As far as anyone knows, there was no Elec Blue car built in 1990 (though there may be some registered on a G plate). I'd hazard a guess that the manufacturing window was actually shorter than for the Raider.

I'd describe Raiders maybe as a 'Special Edition', marketed slightly differently in different European countries (Allain Orielle vs Raider etc). Of course even then their equipment wasn't unique (barring the window sticker in the UK) as can be seen when looking at the Euro-only GTE.

Special Edition, maybe a bit like the Monaco or Baccara, rather than Limited Edition. Unless, we can dig up some evidence of a limited number...

[Sparkie]

knowing renault, they made them until the paint ran out....

[Hoolio]

It seems that renault cannot get the numbering thing sorted even these days, over on Cliotrophy we now have a fairly comprehensive list of the majority of the limited number of "500(?)" this has thrown up several with the same number and also the fact that Renault has no record of which number went with each car.

[dangerous dave]

The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

A women mummy knows bought a limited run porker or a special only for them to do another pretty much the same, so the oh so rare one wasn't gonna be as rare as they made out.

It's all a clever blag :D

[Adam 005]

[quote=dangerous dave;161278]The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

williams 2 and 3 were not numberd:):):)

[dangerous dave]

[quote=dangerous dave;161278]The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

williams 2 and 3 were not numberd:):):)

thats right and thats the point, in my eyes it takes away from the limited ones.. after the 1st run sold out they must have thought they missed the boat and shoulda made the limit higher.. oh wait, if we stick a 2 at the end no one will ever notice we're blagging the last buyers.. later sticking on a 3 to really kill off exclusivity..

they could have been more exclusive and have more value without the 2 and 3 knocking about..

are there any myths about the 1/2 or 3 having more bhp over the others, or having parts made of gold, perhaps each car was tested on track by god himself before finishing the pdi check.. im sure there are some people out there that bullsh1t up there williams over the next..

[old skool turbo power]

knowing renault, they made them until the paint ran out....


:laugh::laugh:

[markey b]

my raider must be number one, as it is the most rusty, and also had a post-it note inside saying 'this is the first one'