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prez06
06-05-2010, 14:38
had my car in a garage for 6 weeks to get sorted went today still the same not starting am f@@king fuming, getting dropped off tomorrow, it reeks of petrol even when i take the oil cap off that stinks of fuel aswell, when i try start it it s just popping ang banging obviously over fuelling, pipes are not attached and could be wrong , feel like breaking it, but ive spent a fortune on parts for it, bought it as a project but iam slowly losing interest

any idea what it could be ?
im assuming the fuels leaking thro the carb into the inlet then into head

Big Steve - Raider
06-05-2010, 15:10
Get in touch with both Brigsy &/or Mart ;)

They're both bloody good lads & expert carb fettlers!!! I'm sure either of them would help if you had some party rings going spare :laugh:

prez06
06-05-2010, 15:15
would disco biscuits do :)

i need someone local to bring there 5 so i can chase the pipes etc as am sure mines gone pete tong, previous owner has obviously ****ed about with it and didnt have a scooby doo

prez06
07-05-2010, 09:23
any ideas as to whats causing this ?

Brigsy
07-05-2010, 10:55
Popping/banging sounds like the firing order could be wrong. If you can sort me out some petrol money (skint at moment) ill pop down & get it going mate.

prez06
07-05-2010, 12:24
mate am sure firing order is right 1342, i bought new plugs, leads, dizzy cap and rotor arm and they havnt even fitted them, that would have been my first port of call

why would my head be stinking of petrol inside, when could you pop round im in hebburn straight up the A19 to tunnel then 5 minutes from there, how uch you wanting lol brassic mesel just been paid off but a want this sorting iam gonna tax it today

prez06
07-05-2010, 12:30
just found this picture on here this is helpful :agree:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/astragsibon/r5engine.jpg

my pipes are all wrong iam sure waiting on it getting dropped off ill take a picture and send you it so you can see what your in for

prez06
07-05-2010, 12:33
where does that pipe go from the right hand side of the carb running over the head go to

paul-11turbo
07-05-2010, 13:40
where does that pipe go from the right hand side of the carb running over the head go to

that is just an overflow pipe.

THE MASTER
07-05-2010, 14:01
try swaping the leads around 1&4 see if it trys to start

James5
07-05-2010, 14:06
try swaping the leads around 1&4 see if it trys to start


:agree: I am with Colin & Brigsy on this one you could have the leads in the correct fireing order but who is to say that the dizzy gear is in the correct position and that your engine is @ TDC when number 1 lead on dizzy cap is closest to the rad position.

Try as Colin suggests.

prez06
07-05-2010, 14:12
that picture number 4 is closest to rad on dizzy cap :confused:

James5
07-05-2010, 14:14
that picture number 4 is closest to rad on dizzy cap :confused:


No that is number 1

Number 1 is the cylinder closest to the flywheel

Shane P
07-05-2010, 14:15
that picture number 4 is closest to rad on dizzy cap :confused:

Renault engines seem to do it the other way bud, No.1 is closest to the flywheel :)

prez06
07-05-2010, 14:23
bet you mine are wrong then

Shane P
07-05-2010, 14:26
bet you mine are wrong then

Your setup should look like the photo :)

Big Steve - Raider
07-05-2010, 14:31
Here's another piccy of the OE pipework without the Cup Mod so you can compare the Market! :D

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=61&pictureid=553


I would HIGHLY recommend you give Dr Brigsy some money for petrol & chips & invite him up for a look, you'd be surprised at what he can do, especially if he brings his Wideband Sensor! ;)

THE MASTER
07-05-2010, 14:39
if it trys to start swapping 1&4 over then swap 2&3 if it runs fine . pop your dizzy out (11mm bolt) and rotate your dizzy drive though 180°.
bit fiddly to do it rotates and lfts at the same time . long nose plyers usualy works

when you get it right leads 2&3 will be on the same side of the dizzy that the cyl there going to (as in your photo).

Brigsy
07-05-2010, 17:41
mate am sure firing order is right 1342, i bought new plugs, leads, dizzy cap and rotor arm and they havnt even fitted them, that would have been my first port of call

why would my head be stinking of petrol inside, when could you pop round im in hebburn straight up the A19 to tunnel then 5 minutes from there, how uch you wanting lol brassic mesel just been paid off but a want this sorting iam gonna tax it today

Could pop down tomorrow afternoon mate, pm me your number.

prez06
07-05-2010, 18:24
they havnt dropped it off yet ,taking the piss now

prez06
08-05-2010, 20:09
right spent bit time putting my new pipes on , intercooler , leather seats bit of a tidy up in engine bay, havent bothered trying to start it
BUT i literally think its because the engine if full of petrol , when i picked my old intercooler up to put it in the shed it was literally half full of petrol, there was petrol below the shaft under the distributor cap when i took that off
so tomorrow im gonna drain the sump cos im guessing its just neat petrol, god knows what the hell the previous owners been doing
put new, plugs, dizzy, rotor arm and leads on today aswell, hopefully when i drain it and fill it with fresh oil and change oil filter and fuel filter itll fire up :agree:

Brigsy
08-05-2010, 20:16
If your intercooler is full of petrol its most likely the fpr has gone tits up mate. Sorry about not getting down today i have been ill!

prez06
08-05-2010, 22:47
fpr mate lost me whats that, ah had on fuel pressure regulator ? how would that fill my engine/intercooler with petrol and im hazarding a guess that this would/will defo stop the ******* starting

prez06
09-05-2010, 14:20
beginning to think its more than fuel drained oil put fresh in and its still the same just turning doesnt even sound like its trying to fire