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stu21t

22-02-2010, 22:55

ive never done a thread in here before and cant really be arsed to go through it all again.
i might copy and paste some details from another site.

here it is as it sits now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0479.jpg

the engines back out,
just for some cleaning, painting, rewiring.
i cant afford the stuff i wanted to do to it, due to some jobs cancelling on me in these ****ty times.

i need a new waterpump as this ones packed up,
gunna get a std exhaust cam for it,
and some general tidying up.
so nothing exciting really.

not exactly much room to work,
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stu21t

22-02-2010, 22:57

some older pics

just washed it so thought id take some pics

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new door cards, also nicely frames my van in the window. lol
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Spooky

22-02-2010, 22:58

Stu, looks good buddy...I have pictures of your car from the FCS/RTOC ND @ Rockingham, 2007 if I remember rightly.

I will post them up if you like :) :agree:

stu21t

22-02-2010, 22:58

got bored and had a spare 1/2 hour so spur of the moment i painted the wheels black.

take the wheels off,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00804.jpg
get a few bits out of the garage,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00805.jpg
rubbed down
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00806.jpg
mist coated
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00807.jpg
all painted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00808.jpg
and back on the car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00809.jpg
much better
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00810.jpg

then though it would be rude not to take a pic of 3 of my toys on the drive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/DSC00811.jpg

think i will put a white pin stripe round the edge of the rim.

stu21t

22-02-2010, 23:08

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/yellow5083.jpg

engine
2litre 16v 4wd sierra cosworth engine
long studded 200 block
polished and ported head
bd14 inlet cam
2wd exhaust manifold
t34.63 turbo
bosch 503cc injectors (403 greys)
2bar (28psi boost)
wasted spark coilpack conversion
denso iridium spark plugs
grp a wrc 4 layer metal headgasket
4x4 inlet manifold with 10mm spacer
vernier pulleys
huge pace ally radiator
ally swirl pot
ally header tank
2 fans running 2 stage switch + override
2 charge coolers, 2 pumps, 2 swirlpots
huge pace ally pre rad
ally grp a oil breather system
bosch 044 fuel pump
-6 fuel lines and fittings
pro alloy foam filled fuel tank
un1 gearbox
ap cossie/reno clutch
oil cooler
level 8 management with closed loop lambda control, pectel board, msd launch control and antilag board
running approx 400 bhp, lb/ft

chassis
ford rs200 rear spaceframe
engine/suspension all bolted to cradle
full welded in roll cage tagged to body everywhere and to space frame
std r5 front end upto where rear seat used to start in floor

rear suspension
rs 200 setup inc.
4 coilovers
double wishbones
tie bars
race polybushes
2wd cossie hubs
all adjustable in every direction

front suspension
avo coilovers
race polybushes
r5 hubs with ford stud adapters

brakes
ap 4 pots up front 330 mm discs
wilwood 4 pots at rear 300mm disds
group n corsa bias pedal box (adjustable in dash)
-4 braided lines throughout
hydraulic handbrake

std bodywork outside
fully stripped inside

2 corbeau revolution seats
homemade ally dash housing clocks and relays/fuses
cable gearchange
plastic windows
billet compomotive mo's
kerb weight around 1000kgs
probably loads ive forgotten, anything u wanna know just ask

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stu21t

22-02-2010, 23:10

yea spooky, and any1 else can add pics if they have them

joegtir

23-02-2010, 18:00

this looks like a amazing bit of kit, always wanted a yellow 5 let alone one with a cosworth engine in the back !!, fooking sick well done mate

HAndy

23-02-2010, 18:45

:cool: top job:agree::agree::agree:

just out of interest how does it handle around corners,any large amounts of under/oversteer??? arse end happy??

my rear engined beast should be done in a few more months:laugh:

stu21t

23-02-2010, 19:15

it handles just fine m8,
ive not had it on track yet, but its done plenty of spirited road driving and i havent found the limits yet.
i would expect to this summer tho. lol

there is still a fair bit of weight in the front of mine, especially with all the fluids in there.

newbstar*

23-02-2010, 20:24

how much would it cost for a yb in a 5, basic set up.

stu21t

23-02-2010, 21:22

its one of those
if you have to ask you cant afford it
questions. lmao

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 21:38

wow and wow again what a machine , u done yourself??

mattk

23-02-2010, 21:44

Stu that car is awesome mate, 400hp/tonne i bet, got to be awesome round the b roads, have you blitzed any supercars?

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 21:48

y not strat a company offering conversion , ,like z cars for minis ,;)

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 21:48

start not strat!

stu21t

23-02-2010, 21:56

i plan on doing a few more crazy conversions in the near future, but not to the same spec as this. its just toooooo expensive.

it is very fun taking it out.
theres a few of us round here with powerful cars that just go out to play, but never some up against a proper supercar, there is a porsche 911 turbo and a lambo gallardo around here i wanna meet on the road.

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 21:58

thats a race i think we would all like to see!!! have u run 1/4 mile yet???

mattk

23-02-2010, 22:06

:) i would love to see the look on that persons face in the porsche when you leave him for dead :cry:

Jessop

23-02-2010, 22:19

IS it coming to ND @ the pod, or even ND at mallory?

Would love to see it on track, or even have a passenger ride round ??

Looks like top work, old beemer looks nice too!

stu21t

23-02-2010, 22:21

i hope to be at loads of shows/meets this year.
yea passenger rides will be available to those brave/stupid engough to get in with me. lol

not done a 1/4 in it yet, hope to this year tho.

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 22:22

defo think theres a business opportunity there

Wallace

23-02-2010, 22:31

:eek::eek: F**k me:eek:.........what a ride:agree::agree::agree:

Amazes me what can be done....................especially when i struggle with the humble C1J:scratch::wasntme:

Hope to see it in the flesh.........

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 22:38

i dont think that car has flesh, bones or blood. . just pure muscle , :agree::wasntme:
back 5 years ago or so a rear engined five with a five engine was enough but some of you out there are on another level , who needs a new car when you can have cult car looks and super car performance. .im so jealous i can pretty much build you a house but cant find find my way round an engine bay!!!!

stu21t

23-02-2010, 22:41

i started the build 5 years ago. lol
its been on the road for 3.

and i can build a house to. lol that might even be my next project.
build a triple garage/workshop in my back garden to play in.
then start on the next car

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 22:44

good man!! stick to car builds though . .y not do a clio williams with five engine in rear??? would it upset handling???

stu21t

23-02-2010, 22:47

i dont think im gunna do another mid engined build,
next 1s gunna be front engine rwd.
prob wont be a small car either, i prefer a bigger car.
wont be for at least a year tho, i wanna get this 1 a bit further along before starting another.

plus wanna sell 1 or 2 others 1st.

firstchoicegary

23-02-2010, 22:49

good luck then im off to bed , i kp look out for any of ya posts get some rear vies vis of 911's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

car.crash

23-02-2010, 22:51

amazing build!
out of interest what does it drive like compared to std. does it handle and drive ok with a light front. looks very well set up.

stu21t

23-02-2010, 22:54

as its mid engined not rear, the weight distribution is very good
and as theres a lot of weight at the front with the big rads full of water and petrol tank there, it holds the front down quite well.
i have been told tho, that when i launch hard it does lift the front wheels off the ground. lol but ive never seen that.

it does feel like its got power steering to.

car.crash

23-02-2010, 23:01

if the weather ever picks up bring it to the ace. would be nice to see it in the flesh.

stu21t

23-02-2010, 23:05

i plan to.
will probably tax and mot it at the start of april once the weathers better.
then i want to take it everywhere. lol

newbstar*

24-02-2010, 17:37

its one of those
if you have to ask you cant afford it
questions. lmao

Not so! Got to love some people on here, been there done that.:laugh:

Markey Mark (BD)

24-02-2010, 18:02

good man!! stick to car builds though . .y not do a clio williams with five engine in rear??? would it upset handling???

How about Williams with turbo'd Williams engine in back, lot better engine to do it to.

stu21t

24-02-2010, 18:54

Not so! Got to love some people on here, been there done that.:laugh:

wasnt saying you couldnt afford it m8,
just thats its costs far too much.

been there done that...... what?

stu21t

24-02-2010, 21:17

bealo, did u have the 4x4 front engined green1?

tonights progress
engine totaly pulled out,
stripped loads of bits off the engine ready for cleaning/replacing

exhaust manifold off to be ceramic coated,
new waterpump,
new cam,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0484.jpg
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pics arent great cos taken off my phone and no flash.

newbstar*

25-02-2010, 20:22

wasnt saying you couldnt afford it m8,
just thats its costs far too much.

been there done that...... what?

Point taken, but you still didnt answer my question stu. We have all spent loads of money on all our 5's over the years ,and thats me doing the work too! If i was to add up what i spent on my 5,s, it would cost more or less the same as putting a cossie engine in the back in the first place.:coffee:

JRP

25-02-2010, 20:34

Stu you should bring it up one weds when its fixed your always welcome... i havent seen you since i gave you that gear box :)

Andrew Cooke

25-02-2010, 20:41

how much would it cost for a yb in a 5, basic set up.

more or less what you've spent on your own 5 :smokin:

firstchoicegary

25-02-2010, 20:47

a million pounds then, anyone so lucky to be able to do work on there own cars to such a high standard is highly comendable, i can do basics but the things you guys can do must save a fortune in garage labour costs. :)

newbstar*

25-02-2010, 20:59

more or less what you've spent on your own 5 :smokin:

put a sock in it andy:laugh::wasntme:

stu21t

25-02-2010, 21:48

more or less what you've spent on your own 5 :smokin:

Pmsl
in the 5 yrs I've had it I've spent around £30k in parts, lots of that is mates rates to, no labour as I've done 99% myself.
I know a company that does builds like this, he recons around £15k in labour to copy it. If you supply the car and the parts.

stu21t

25-02-2010, 22:20

Jrp, will do m8, hopefully have it back on the road taxed and tested for April.

bigdikky5

25-02-2010, 22:22

m8 that project has left a little white patch on my pants......................... crazy crazy project yet amazing work and craft in that m8

JRP

25-02-2010, 22:25

Jrp, will do m8, hopefully have it back on the road taxed and tested for April.

I have the same plans with my current white 5. any time just gimmie a nod then pop up :) always got the kettle on

newbstar*

25-02-2010, 22:42

Nice work though stu, Ive almost fished my efi c1j, and im already wanting to put something else under the bonnet.:)£££.

Matt@CodeRedMotorsports

25-02-2010, 23:28

Halfords oil filter on a Cosworth.......are you mad???;)

stu21t

25-02-2010, 23:33

newbstar,
good luck with finishing yours. enjoy it before you move on tho. lol

matt5, its changed weekly :laugh:, and thay aint made by halfrauds lol, they also have the 1 way valve just like the motorcraft ones. plus theyre local. lol
i will change it just for you. :wasntme:

stu21t

14-03-2010, 14:52

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/R5s/IMG_0496.jpg

how it sits now.

just before the start of show seaon and the fun that comes with it and ive stripped it to the bones. lol

gearbox is out to be stripped, inspected, cleaned and repainted.
rear suspension is off for a cleanup
drive shafts need cv joints repacking and cleaning then paint

ive also done some more welding and paneling to the engine covers to seal it better, and done a load of cleaning/painting already.

hopefully i will get it back together soon, its booked to go on a stand at the rsoc central day in the middle of april so i better get a move on.

stu21t

14-03-2010, 17:59

all stripped
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/general/IMG_0500.jpg

and 1 side all cleaned, painted and back together
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/general/IMG_0502.jpg

benj88

14-03-2010, 19:30

Class mate:agree:

stu21t

30-03-2010, 21:44

YEA BOY
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/R5s/IMG_0511.jpg

engines back in.

after a full strip/rebuild/paint of the whole back end, inc. suspension, gearbox, engine its finally going back together

got a few more bits to do/order then its ready for the rollers again.
:ashamed::ashamed::ashamed:

philr5t

30-03-2010, 22:00

minty83

31-03-2010, 00:21

its one of those
if you have to ask you cant afford it
questions. lmao
quality quote stu, good read and awesome car:agree:

c7borg

31-03-2010, 10:18

Where the hell did you find an RS200 space frame!?! That is just the ultimate.. I'd love to turn my engine round the same direction..
I can see the space frame fixes to the cage..Does it also bolt to the original rear subframe/beam mountings?
Awesome car!

stu21t

31-03-2010, 12:14

Is not a genuine RS200 spaceframe, but an exact replica.
2 bars come down from the top of the rollcage hoop, onto the top of the spaceframe, 1 bolt each
2 big metal plates are boxed onto the front corners of the subframe and they bolt to 2 box sections fixed to the middle of the car near the rear jacking points, 2 bolts per side.
and 2 more plates at the rear of the subframe bolt to a box section at the back of the car inside the bumper. 4 bolts per side.

So 14 bolts in total.
I can circle the bits in the pics tonight.

c7borg

31-03-2010, 13:10

that would be much apprecaited.. did you have a rs200 frame to copy or did you base it on pictures?.. I'd really like to do this with mine but with just a lowly 172 engine ;) it must improve the balance and handling no end!

stu21t

31-03-2010, 18:32

its a kit you used to be able to buy but i dont think they do them anymore. just made smaller to fit in the 5 shell. lol

it does make it mid engined and almost all of the weight is in the middle of the car.
you would have to pretty much start again to get this in yours tho.
i will be up at a few meets soon so come have a look.
im hoping to get it taxed and motd a week sat.

stu21t

16-04-2010, 09:07

bad new peeps.
i got the car running on sunday
got it all back together on monday and went for a test drive on tuesday and it broke. lol

the cam cover gasket blew between the cams and spark plugs resulting in this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0518.jpg

the oil ran out of the fronnt and back breather holes of the cam cover, and onto the cambelt and flywheel
meaning the whole ****ing thing is now dripping in oil.

and then i lost all gears, it popped out of reverse while i was parking and then i couldnt get any gears.
im hoping the oil has caused the clutch to stick to the flywheel.

lets hope i can get it back together quick enough to get it mot'd on saturday for central day on sunday

other than that it was ok.

some more update pics:
under floor panel with vents for cooling
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0516.jpg

gearbox stripped
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0505.jpg
rebuilt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0510.jpg

stu21t

16-04-2010, 09:08

just came in for dinner so thought id do an update. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0523.jpg

its all cleaned up,
i just used blue paper towel, and once it was as clean as i could get it i kept diluting it with degreaser till it was all gone.

jimbo, thanks for the offer but i have 1 on its way to me, should be here tomorow.

and

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/stu21t/IMG_0524.jpg

ive taken the clutch out already. lol
it looks quite clean but im gunna give it a clean up anyway and start to put it back together now.

stu21t

16-04-2010, 09:08

thats me done for the night
found a few problems.
the spline on the clutch centre plate was all burred up, so i had to file that down so it was all clean.

also i have a small metal adaptor that goes in the back of the crank where the pilot bearing goes, that adapts the renault un1 box to fit.
that had clearance probs so ive grinded that down for more room.

then sanded and cleaned the clutch cover, plate and flywheel.

now the clutch and box are all back in and bolted up.

tomorow i will get the hydraulics back in and bled, exhaust back on, and as long as the gasket turns up i will do the camcover and get it back out for another test drive.

c7borg

16-04-2010, 09:16

c7borg

16-04-2010, 09:28

r5gt1986

21-04-2010, 09:05

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Really interesting project, great to see something like this, :eek:"a monster speed", what with a shot under in rounds, of course a lot of Power with Rear wheel may be a problem. Really interesting to see how Something like this flying, maybe you can share with us in the film.:goodJob:

jonnyshaw49

22-04-2010, 07:54

this car is absolutely amazing, we have just put an rs turbo engine in a mk1 and that was enough lol, this car has had some real money and effort put into it, good on you,

w35ty

26-04-2010, 15:12

car is amazing!!.. carnt wait to see this

Gavin

14-12-2010, 20:50

Lets have a go stu!!!!!! lol ;)

Matt Cole

26-04-2014, 09:54

Love this. Onw of the best build threads!;)

B18ftMOJO5

26-04-2014, 18:17

wow speechless top project. class conversion must be scary to drive or you must have huge cahoonas lol:)

w35ty

26-04-2014, 19:00

Looks mental mate! Gonna be a right beast.. Love it!

Goobie

26-04-2014, 19:30

I think its safe to say this could do with an update since the last post four years ago. :cool: :agree: