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Adey was on about lowering his car when he brought it, something I don't need asking twice about :D
He came to mine a few Saturdays back, had some bits off me, like you do whilst I set about attacking the rear beam...:coffee:...
Anyhow, I spent nigh on 4-5hrs trying to remove the torsion bars, the beam etc. Gave up in the end as they were seized good and proper.
Adey said he'd heard about the Renault 19 16v rear beam being a straight swap. Schakal pretty much confirmed it so he managed to source a beam.
The front suspension needed a freshen up too so he got hold of some R5GTT struts and lowering springs, -50mm to come, poly'd the top mounts, new bearings etc gave them a lick of paint and they looked as good as new. He also brought some lower arms with new ball joints.
We attacked the car Saturday morning, just gone 10ish after a couple of cups of tea and by half 12 we had completely swapped and replaced the front suspension components, good going we thought :)
After a couple of bacon and egg sarnies..EACH ;)...we cracked on with the rear beam. We had the beam off, swapping the necessary vital parts and torsion bars out and back ON, within 3-4hrs.
It wasnt that plain sailing...the brake lines were a bit tight to undo and looked a little delicate, for some reason we had to adjust the handbrake cable even thought it came off with ease :confused:...when I was refitting the torsion bars, the passenger side bar refused to go in...then to top it off, we broke a bleed nipple on the rear caliper, fortunately, I had a spare caliper to replace it with :D
When we lowered the car off the jack/axle stands, the stance was completely different and it looked awesome. In the end we didnt actually lower the car, the 19 16v beam is set at STANDARD height and once fitted to the 11T, looked so much lower than before :wasntme:
Take a look at the few pics we managed to take, I think we had a pretty sucessful day :agree:
Old beam off...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture316.jpg
11T beam is above the 19 16v beam...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture333.jpg
Just after the car was dropped to the floor off the axle stands...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture318.jpg
Adey just leaving...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture313.jpg
R11T's engine bay after pinching a few of my bits...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture368.jpg
Standard turbo...'T28' turbo :p
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/Picture388.jpg
Hope you enjoyed reading it as much as we did doing it :agree: :D
Scottish9Turbo
21-02-2010, 19:45
i take it the 16v beams will fit up to a 9 as well mate?
i take it the 16v beams will fit up to a 9 as well mate?
:agree:
Adey aka Ewok
21-02-2010, 19:54
cheers spooky,on the 9 bud you have funny arches that are flat not round, the beam being wider will prob catch on the 9 ones, only need minor tweeking on the 11
cheers spooky,on the 9 bud you have funny arches that are flat not round, the beam being wider will prob catch on the 9 ones, only need minor tweeking on the 11
good point, we did slightly roll the lips on the 11 :D
Scottish9Turbo
21-02-2010, 20:40
cheers for that info lads, was going to pop down the local scrappies theres a chamade lying there doing nowt, was going to take the beam off, might be a case of fit up and double check everything see if it does line up or not.:coffee:
Adey aka Ewok
21-02-2010, 21:04
Really would depend on your drop and wheel choice, feels a fair bit firmer to drive on than the stock 11 one too
Big Steve - Raider
21-02-2010, 22:03
I'm glad we finally get to see your 11 Turbo Adey!!
Looks SCHWEET!! :niceone:
Would like one of those bad lads! ;)
Adey aka Ewok
21-02-2010, 22:43
I'm glad we finally get to see your 11 Turbo Adey!!
Looks SCHWEET!! :niceone:
Would like one of those bad lads! ;)
cheers bud, wanted to keep it abit hush till it had the ride height sorted but will be about this year at events and stuff. hoping to sort her into a little track slag :agree:
cheers bud, wanted to keep it abit hush till it had the ride height sorted
so so agree with that :D :laugh:
jesus in the seat of a 5
22-02-2010, 17:49
lookin goodade , well done suhk on the help lad....:), all ya gotta do now buddy is trim them chops before the track an you will save heaps on the weight of the ole girl..:laugh:, good work chaps!!!!
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 18:29
you know the beard makes sence lol
jesus in the seat of a 5
22-02-2010, 18:35
you know the beard makes sence lol
Mate all ya need is an old school race suit and your super sexy....:agree:
Andrew Cooke
22-02-2010, 18:46
Mate all ya need is an old school race suit and your super sexy....:agree:
his super sexy what? :eek:
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 18:57
im actually tempeted to see if any of the front r19 stuff will bolt up for an extra 2 inch of track upfront, spooky up for another saturday car fix? anyone know of it being done?
Andrew Cooke
22-02-2010, 19:44
im actually tempeted to see if any of the front r19 stuff will bolt up for an extra 2 inch of track upfront, spooky up for another saturday car fix? anyone know of it being done?
isn't the R11 wider than the R19 up front?
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 21:12
is it? ill have a sniff around and see what i can find
im actually tempeted to see if any of the front r19 stuff will bolt up for an extra 2 inch of track upfront, spooky up for another saturday car fix? anyone know of it being done?
I don't need asking twice :D :agree:
I'll get some more bacon n eggs :p
Scottish9Turbo
22-02-2010, 21:24
Really would depend on your drop and wheel choice, feels a fair bit firmer to drive on than the stock 11 one too
standard probably, maybe 35mm tops on standard wheels if i do lower it.
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 21:35
i have the 11 turbo down as
front track 54.9inch
rear track 53.4inch
and the 19 16v chamade
front track 56.1inch
rear track 55.4inch
so it is wider, hmm what drivesafts would i use, the 19 ones? and shocks? any ideas people as ive never done any sort of track change on a car before
Driveshaft swap makes sense, one way to find out :p
Or you could just have super neggy camber :D
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 21:49
if we push out the front another half inch each side and not change the shocks somehow itll have stupid camber
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 21:52
or do i just increase the track with spacers?
Spacer idea is a good one, didn't we mention that on Saturday, I'm sure we did.
Change the wheels...maybe cup rimmage...nice bit of offset there :p
Andrew Cooke
22-02-2010, 21:54
i have the 11 turbo down as
front track 54.9inch
rear track 53.4inch
and the 19 16v chamade
front track 56.1inch
rear track 55.4inch
so it is wider, hmm what drivesafts would i use, the 19 ones? and shocks? any ideas people as ive never done any sort of track change on a car before
statistics and damn lies...
I have the N/S driveshafts being 7mm longer on the R11 and the O/S ones being the same length. Make your own mind up :laugh:
Adey aka Ewok
22-02-2010, 21:55
sticking with 15s bud, think ill look into some bolt on spacers to bring the fronts out another 20mm
if we push out the front another half inch each side and not change the shocks somehow itll have stupid camber
Could enlarge the strut top bolt holes...
nice job guys :agree:
that 11t looks sick on turbines :cool:
We did some more work on the beast at the weekend...she now runs 20psi :burnrubber::D...
I'm just about to upload some more pics :smokin:
This is a good pic, the suspension has settled and levelled out some more, Adey says it holds the road so much better :agree:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/adeys11t.jpg
A front 'show us da camber' shot...:cooter:...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/adeys11twithcamber.jpg
Finally the 238mm to 285mm 'big brake' conversion...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k122/Dr_Toor/Mates%20Cars/238mmto285mmbrakeconversion.jpg
Swapped the hubs with another pair with new wheel bearings and shes almost as quiet as a mouse...squeak squeak :D
I usually upload a few pics on Facebook but this thread is a good 'time line' of mods so I'll keep it going :agree:
Adey aka Ewok
01-03-2010, 21:05
also have the wheel centers and missing trim bits before anyone pokes in and says get them sorted. defo holds the road good, no skittishnes like you get from a decked 5, think its because the rear shocks are upright and still has travel that the 5 looses for having a angled rear shock, cheers for the help spookdev tuning:agree:
Anytime my furry friend :D :smokin: :agree:
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:cool:
Looks :cool: IMO leave the centre caps off, will try and sort a shticker out too
Fcuk the caps and stickers...needs a bottom end first ;)...
Adey aka Ewok
03-03-2010, 21:40
bottom end knocking 2 days before a track day bad times :( bring on the rtoc spirit good times:):agree:
Fcuk the caps and stickers...needs a bottom end first ;)...
Sorry, crystal ball switched off tonight :cooter: :D
Sorry, crystal ball switched off tonight :cooter: :D
Mine is fully functional...I predict an Ewok and Spooky session on my driveway deep into the night VERY soon :D
Mine is fully functional...I predict an Ewok and Spooky session on my driveway deep into the night VERY soon :D
How soon ;)
How soon ;)
Soon enough :p
Soon enough :p
or not soon enough...:cooter:
The R11T is back in action - major engine 'surgery' today, update & pics to follow :D
The R11T is back in action - major engine 'surgery' today, update & pics to follow :D
will it make it to the track tomorrow doc ? :laugh::laugh:
Schak, Adey will be on track tomorrow my friend :D
Schak, Adey will be on track tomorrow my friend :D
cool . i will go see him on my lunch break :agree:
back in action now :agree: :cool:
Adey aka Ewok
06-03-2010, 17:45
Cheers for the help lads, thanks to spooky and retardo (ricardo) for the engine swap on Friday all in hope of hitting the track on sat all was going well until the car threw a belt off mid lap, and then in true rtoc spirt schakal was able to grab a belt for me and drop it off at the track so I could continue :-D all was well until a rear brake pad made a quick exit and left me with a brake pedal on the floor at the end of the straight, luckly no major damage was caused and a new pair of pants needed along with some new front tyres, cheers again
LOL!
So I get a text Wednesday night, 'bottom end gone'...leading me to think Ade is pulling my master of ceremonies...an hour or so later, get off the phone, he's explained hes pretty much killed the engine...any chance we could get it out and my old spare in, come Thursday after work...as always, I said I was game :p...
Get another phonecall, Ades got Friday off so no mad midnight PMT sesh was needed. After it was towed to mine from Glos...we got to pull the car apart a little...Ade said he thought the rad was to blame and it would seem he was on the money...the rad had split internally, mixing up the oil/water to a treacle like mess!!! It had worked its way ALL the way round the cooling system, the engine, a nightmare clean up job!
I spent a while cleaning what I could with fairy and hot water, worked well :smokin:
SO...the car was at mine on Thursday...we got up Friday morning and pulled it apart and lifted the engine out...
Couldn't find any motor factor selling a valeo green box clutch locally so Ade brought a new Sachs clutch to mate up to his 9 slot flywheel...which he got off an engine he brought for peanuts...( shove yer 9 slot up yer rusty ring hole ;);) )...
Fitted that all up with some pearl engine mounts for a Ren 5 GTT...yes, the Ren 5 GTT shares the SAME engine mount RUBBERS as the R11T. The only difference we noticed between the 2 models was the mounting plates...the R11T plates are taller so they have to be used with the GTT rubbers ;)
Refitted the engine, got the rad in etc and she fired up FIRST time...in reverse :laugh:...when we fitted the 'box, we did it with the engine sat on the crank pulley so on its side, apparently, reverse gear slid over and locked it into reverse...so when refitted, even though we thought we had neutral, we didn't...THANK YOU COLIN COOK for the Tech Support on the phone and Sparkie for ze flywheel advice :agree::agree::agree:
Got the car down, no major oil or water leaks...boost and oil hoses today were a bit loose/leaky...probably down to Ricardos limp wrist ;)...and it had a very sludgy header tank for obvious reasons, just need to clean it out with some washing powder now...
Adey got home safe n sound and as you may have heard or seen, got it to Llandow :agree::agree::agree:
Thanks to Riccy for popping down, other than the 'help' he gave us and the ear ache Mich gave him, I'd say we all had a good laugh :agree::)
A top 48hrs Spookster and Adey, enjoyed every minute and was good to see it fire up 1st time :cool: The cold weather didn't dampen the SW spirits :)
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