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blaze
17-02-2010, 16:53
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Does any 1 know were to get a uprated cam kit for the volvo 1.7 turbo lump

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 17:08
There's no cam kits out there for these engines (as far as i'm aware), alot of people fit the cam from a 2.0l Volvo 480 ES.
Other the that its custom profile regrind like mine.

blaze
17-02-2010, 17:35
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were did you get it done and what about followers and springs????

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 17:39
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were did you get it done and what about followers and springs????

I got mine done at Piper

I'm still using the original followers in the head but the springs are out of a Pinto engine, i will say they are not a straight swap though head will need abit of work to make them fit
I got different valves in my head too so fitting them will be different from a standard head

blaze
17-02-2010, 17:46
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how long did it take them to do that and how much it cost ??

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 17:52
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how long did it take them to do that and how much it cost ??

Which bit mate, cam or the head.

If the head it wasn't piper that done it, it was CTM but i'm having head looked at soon so may change abit.

blaze
17-02-2010, 18:12
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the cam

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 18:13
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the cam

Its about £130 to get the cam ground to whatever spec you want, that last price last time i got it done.

blaze
17-02-2010, 18:20
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not 2 bad then... do have any idea what kind of pofiles would be best 2 get the best gain but still road usable

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 18:30
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not 2 bad then... do have any idea what kind of pofiles would be best 2 get the best gain but still road usable

The profile you come up with will depend on what turbo you want to use, drag track or fast road use, etc.

Whats the spec of engine your fitting?

TrixNFlix
17-02-2010, 18:34
Guys, how restrictive is the normal cam?

blaze
17-02-2010, 18:39
looking for sum thing to keep the power band up2 6500rpm

head ported, gas flowed and blueprinted
garrett gt2560r turbo
250cc sabb injectors
Scoff modified ecu
215mm fast road clutch
front mount intercooler
custom exhaust with screamer pipe

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 18:39
Well its not the best in the world, think its well known for being the main restriction in the engine

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 18:41
looking for sum thing to keep the power band up2 6500rpm

head ported, gas flowed and blueprinted
garrett gt2560r turbo
250cc sabb injectors
Scoff modified ecu
215mm fast road clutch
front mount intercooler
custom exhaust with screamer pipe

In all honesty the ES Cam will work with that, know Haz run a similar set up to that and used the ES cam with good results

blaze
17-02-2010, 18:43
any idea were i could get my hands on 1 quick.. did that need any uprated springs ?

TrixNFlix
17-02-2010, 18:44
Do we know roughly what the most power has been had out of the b18ft with standard cam and t28?

Markey Mark (BD)
17-02-2010, 18:45
Do we know roughly what the most power has been had out of the b18ft with standard cam and t28?

I'm not too sure mate, Haz is prob best to ask as he has been playing with these engines for long time.

TrixNFlix
17-02-2010, 18:53
I'm not too sure mate, Haz is prob best to ask as he has been playing with these engines for long time.
Ok thanks mark.

dave r5
18-02-2010, 10:54
looking for sum thing to keep the power band up2 6500rpm

head ported, gas flowed and blueprinted
garrett gt2560r turbo
250cc sabb injectors
Scoff modified ecu
215mm fast road clutch
front mount intercooler
custom exhaust with screamer pipe

prety much the same spec as mine

except
im using a t28 from a 200sx
and dta
oh an my head is standard except im using the n/a cam
an the saab injector are closer to 350cc if there the same as mine

im having the screamer pipe re routed in to the exhaust as its way to loud and sounds gash

dave r5
18-02-2010, 10:55
any idea were i could get my hands on 1 quick.. did that need any uprated springs ?
chriss (haz) has a cam for sale fella

blaze
18-02-2010, 17:55
prety much the same spec as mine

except
im using a t28 from a 200sx
and dta
oh an my head is standard except im using the n/a cam
an the saab injector are closer to 350cc if there the same as mine

im having the screamer pipe re routed in to the exhaust as its way to loud and sounds gash

the gt2560r (aka gt28) is for the 200sx and i did think bout the those injectors but decided on then reconed Saab 900/9000 250cc @ 3bar.

i spoke 2 piper an they are gonna see if they can reporfile the cam so mite not need a another cam but will def keep in mind as they mite not be able 2 do any thing

also what kind of power did you get so i mite get a rough idea what i could be looking at when the engine gets running in my clio

Haz
21-02-2010, 12:53
the std cam is far to conservative and would be the first tuning part to change imo. not sure, about the 2ltr es cam. dont think i've tried one or know if it works. the one i use is from the b18e engine (with the 4 into1 inlet manifold), next best profile is from the b18ep engine, but tbh is probably better if you only plan to use std ecu's limited to 6200 revs as the power band is slightly lower. the e cam doesn't tail of til around 6600 revs. if you are goin the standalone route then catcams do a nice spec with just shy of 3mm extra lift, £550 with springs etc.
regards injectors, i'd stick with std fuel reg and adjust afm for larger ones. the 740 volvo turbo ones (the matching resistor pack is required or you'll blow ecu outputs) fuel nice to about 18-20psi on a t28, for more boost the saab reds(bosch number 481's i think) will provide plenty of fuel at 7200revs @ 25psi where my engine starts to det. however we've set up cars that det lower so worthwile checkin above 20psi.

i do have a cam for sale but not measured so unsure whether is e or ep as its been a while, will check, £50.
also have other used spares like cranks, 215mm flwheels with clutch plates, covers, long arm conversions and other items. drop me a pm.

Scoff
21-02-2010, 13:25
The saab injectors were 431 chris.

The volvo cam data I have says:

b18ft:
inlet lift: 9.49mm
exhaust lift: 9.13mm
inlet timing: 5°-55°
exhaust timing: 43°-9°

b18e (the best of the lot):
inlet lift: 10.49mm
exhaust lift: 10.49mm
inlet timing: 16°-64°
exhaust timing: 64°-16°

The b18ep cam has similar lift to the b18e but has nothing like the duration.

Haz
21-02-2010, 14:30
cheers for the extra info. has there been any updates to the article as there seems to be alot of repeat questions and loads of ways to do the conversion. i'll add wat i can to wats there n email it over to ya ;)

SCHWARTZ
21-02-2010, 17:29
what car is the b18e cam found in is it any 1.8l 440 460 480?

blaze
09-03-2010, 12:19
ended up having cam reprofiled by piper for £140+vat

Miller
09-03-2010, 22:44
ended up having cam reprofiled by piper for £140+vat

What spec did they grind it too?

Cheers
Chris:)

blaze
10-03-2010, 11:53
What spec did they grind it too?

Cheers
Chris:)

im not sure at the mo as have not recived it back yet

Miller
10-03-2010, 17:10
OK cool so they have not received it to determine what profile is possible, it would be good to see what they can do with the standards cam then maybe a n/a as it has more meat on it.

I have a 2.0 cam in the garage and was wondering if someone could measure the standard cam lobs at it two biggest point on the inlet and the exhaust lobes.....just in case they are different. It would be interesting to know the physical differences?:)

I have compared it to the standard cam in the head but could not take any accurate measurment......it did not look like it had as much duration, as the the 2.0 cam.

Chris

blaze
12-03-2010, 15:15
OK cool so they have not received it to determine what profile is possible, it would be good to see what they can do with the standards cam then maybe a n/a as it has more meat on it.

I have a 2.0 cam in the garage and was wondering if someone could measure the standard cam lobs at it two biggest point on the inlet and the exhaust lobes.....just in case they are different. It would be interesting to know the physical differences?:)

I have compared it to the standard cam in the head but could not take any accurate measurment......it did not look like it had as much duration, as the the 2.0 cam.

Chris


just recived my cam back to day from piper and they have reporfiled it to ultimate road spec :wasntme:

Miller
12-03-2010, 18:50
just recived my cam back to day from piper and they have reporfiled it to ultimate road spec :wasntme:


What the funk is that spec:laugh:

They must have told you more than that:(

Andrew Cooke
12-03-2010, 18:53
just recived my cam back to day from piper and they have reporfiled it to ultimate road spec :wasntme:

sounds good :D

blaze
12-03-2010, 21:40
What the funk is that spec:laugh:

They must have told you more than that:(

its the piper 285 cam but its going to the enginner soon who is doing my head work so i will ask him what the lift is as i dont have a clue :scratch: