View Full Version : verones thoughts on these intercoolers ?
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 20:03
http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/products/product-detail.asp?prodId=247&catId=25&subId=-1
Markey Mark (BD)
03-02-2010, 20:08
That'll be a chargecooler mate
I've never used one myself and personally don't like chargecoolers but i think a few members on here have used one like that of the same design with good results.
The new Bill J
03-02-2010, 20:17
Who's 'verones'? :scratch:
Chris Hebden
03-02-2010, 20:23
I have had both, charge cooler and intercooler, and much prefer intercoolers. It seemed to control my charge temp much better than my charge, then again i did only have a pace set up :crap:!
edit: that company are just down the road from me and charge the world for everything, if your interested in a charge cooler shop around mate
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 20:26
cheers chris ill shop around... and veryones ment to be everyones.... net book and big fingers dont do well. haha
The new Bill J
03-02-2010, 20:28
and veryones ment to be everyones.... net book and big fingers dont do well. haha
http://www.lime-office.com.au/img/productImages/dats/1396.jpg
:D
I'm trying to avoid buying one of those but may have no choice when Scoff gets his hands on my big lump :D
I would much prefer to go air to air but the GTA is complicated .......
http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/
David G is the man for these but make sure you get a firm delivery date before you order :agree:
TrixNFlix
03-02-2010, 20:59
I'm trying to avoid buying one of those but may have no choice when Scoff gets his hands on my big lump :D
I would much prefer to go air to air but the GTA is complicated .......
http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/
David G is the man for these but make sure you get a firm delivery date before you order :agree:
Christ:eek:, like the product, don't like the price:scared:
Running 18-20psi wouldn't an alf decent FMIC do the job?
Isn't Ross selling his on the classifieds?
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:23
wouldnt you oly need the chargecoolr itself and the pump and plumb it up to your wwater system ,insted of buying the kit with all the red inculded..
on paper these seem way better the front mounts even the small1 beats a medium front mount which is perfect for a 5 ? im really concidering these now
The AVT chargecooler was next on my shopping list had i kept the 5, i think i was looking at using another 5 header tank or another washer bottle in the scuttle, pump, and a motorbike rad where the foglight would be for a pre rad
http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/catalog2/index.php?cPath=22
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:38
Sounds like a plan ricardo.
its it as simple as it says tho.. could i keep it near the turbo with out it getting to hott.. i was just planing it quick in my head , could you have a 45 degree samco off the turbo stright to the chargecooler then connect the air filter the other end via another 45 degree samco , so the cooler would sit over the gear box-ish and the filter right where the oe intercooler was
Andrew Cooke
03-02-2010, 22:40
Sounds like a plan ricardo.
its it as simple as it says tho.. could i keep it near the turbo with out it getting to hott.. i was just planing it quick in my head , could you have a 45 degree samco off the turbo stright to the chargecooler then connect the air filter the other end via another 45 degree samco , so the cooler would sit over the gear box-ish and the filter right where the oe intercooler was
hmm, you might want to have a re-look at that interesting plan.
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:44
why cooke ?
Andrew Cooke
03-02-2010, 22:48
why cooke ?
fliter - intercooler - turbo is wrong
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:55
cant belive i just made that mistake... def think its time for bed.. lol how would you pipe it without having to many angles ?
you could have it above the oil filer running parallel with the block then haveing a slightly upturned 90 degree to the lobster.
then having a 90 on the other end runnig down to the correct hight to corraspond to the turbo then another 90 with a samco finishin off to the turbo
fliter - intercooler - turbo is wrong
you should have left him to it,
might have got a new pic for your f/w files then! :laugh:
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:56
would it be better than an front mount tho..?
The air filter will still come off the front of the turbo housing like aways, can run it to behind the grill.
90 bend off the carb top, AVT chargecooler abover rocker cover, then pipework to the turbo outlet
Chris Hebden
03-02-2010, 22:58
Put the charecooler on the n/s next to the turbo (adequately heat wrapped) 90 off the top, one straight pipe then 90 onto the carb top. You can get the correct shaped pipes to go from turbo outlet onto the bottom of charge cooler
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 22:58
custom lobster though th bulk head and relocate the battery. which is passnger side s i dnt touch the vin....
Chris Hebden
03-02-2010, 23:00
My old set uphttp://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v117/89/117/664735374/n664735374_926898_4078.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=926899&id=664735374)
Andrew Cooke
03-02-2010, 23:05
a guy who used to post on here did his like this
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=118414&id=174426209712#!/photo.php?pid=2830034&id=174426209712 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=118414&id=174426209712#%21/photo.php?pid=2830034&id=174426209712)
dizzeeR5
03-02-2010, 23:13
im really liking this now... sorry im not that uptodate with chargecoolers. soory for all the questions. but thankyou so much for answering and being patient :cool:
are charge coolers more effecient that froint mounts in a 5
Adey aka Ewok
04-02-2010, 10:24
pre rad choice and size makes a huge difference to how well it works
Chris Hebden
04-02-2010, 10:53
pre rad choice and size makes a huge difference to how well it works
Very good point, mine was pants but people like Duncan Grier who put alot of development into there systems have got them to work really well
dizzeeR5
04-02-2010, 12:32
so basicly a pre rad as large as you can get, the better.
Do you rekon having it under the bonnet with louvers above it is enough or would you front mount it ?
Chris Hebden
04-02-2010, 12:46
Front mount infront of as much air as possible! Dale Jarvis (i think) runs his infront of his fog lamp, Alastair Brown has done this
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=295&pictureid=4847
dizzeeR5
05-02-2010, 02:19
http://www.mini2.com/forum/first-generation-mini-tuning/156390-charge-cooler-vs-intercooler.html
a good argument... if ya fancy a read
markey b
05-02-2010, 15:30
a guy who used to post on here did his like this
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=118414&id=174426209712#!/photo.php?pid=2830034&id=174426209712
thats my ex's old car....
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