11 turbo leaky sunroof

[Neal 11T]

My 11's sunroof leaks like a seive.

It has always leaked since I got it, which I put down to the mechanism being broken which stopped the panel closing 100%.

So I stripped the sunroof mechanism out, fixed it and replaced it all. Works lovely now, opens and closes fully and easily. Perfect.

I also cleared out all the drain tubes and dug a couple of handfuls of compacted dirt from the void behind each arch liner which was blocking the ends.

But still it leaks into the car. The roof lining gets sopping wet and sometimes I get dripped on when going round roundabouts etc. The condensation can be horrendous.

I'm tearing my hair out as I cant work out how water gets around the mechanism/tray when the drain tubes are all clear.

Has anyone else dealt with this problem? I'm pretty much ready to reach for the silicone to just seal the bugger shut and be done with it.

[Adey aka Ewok]

mine leaks too, and has dropped on one corner? havent tried opening it just incase it drops off or something? duct tape has stopped the leaking tho if thats any help;)

[i l k e r]

hi mate,

if you're %100 sure that the drain tubes are not blocked it might be the rubber seal around the sunroof.

it's either moved or lost it's sealing properties due to old age.

I hope this helps.

[Neal 11T]

Yeah, it's clearly getting past the seal, I just cant work out how it then gets into the car - that's what the tray is there for, to catch it and let it out via the drain tubes. :scratch:

Big tube of black silicone sealant comes out at the weekend methinks

[Adey aka Ewok]

anyone got a pic of how it all goes together? mines droped in one corner?

[Neal 11T]

How do you mean dropped in one corner? The moving metal roof panel itself?

Which corner?

Some photos of the mechanism dismantled etc in my project report over on Retro-Renault.

http://www.retro-renault.com/forums/renault-pre-1990/12387-11-t-u-r-b-o.html?garpg=5#content_start

[Adey aka Ewok]

cheers will take a look, the passanger side rear of the metal top sits about 1/2 inch lower than the roof?

[Neal 11T]

Well knowing exactly how the mechanism works from having stripped mine down, I think there's only one way that could happen - one of the 2 little runner thingys that is meant to be attached to the ends of the 2 cables has come off.

[jack joy]

On my 11's and others I've seen, it's always been the front metal drain tubes on the tray ,that the rubber drain pipes push on to,which rust away leaving any water to drain back into the car,I'm sure you've covered this though!a real pain in the ars*!
hope you get it sorted,my turn next:scared:

[Neal 11T]

Yep, one of mine was broken off, I repaired it so they are all intact and sealed.

[i l k e r]

Yeah, it's clearly getting past the seal, I just cant work out how it then gets into the car -

maybe through the outer sides of the seal???

[Neal 11T]

Dont understand what you mean. The seal you're talking about is the one attached to the edge of the moving metal sunroof panel yes?

What I'm saying is that yes, clearly it's getting past that seal, I dont think it was ever designed to completely 100% seal watertight to the roof skin. Just sort of a first line of defence. Hence the drip tray built into the sunroof mechanism, and the drain tubes to let the water that gets past the seal to flow to the outside of the car without entering the cabin itself.

Or am I getting completely the wrong end of the stick?

What I'm saying is I dont know how, once the water drips into the drip tray, it then gets around/out of it and into the headlining, rather than just running away via the drain tubes.

[i l k e r]

anyone got a pic of how it all goes together? mines droped in one corner?

Adey, I have the exploded diagrams in my old pc somewhere. I'll try and dig 'em up at the weekend and post them here mate.

[Adey aka Ewok]

Nice one cheers bud

[Adey aka Ewok]

Adey, I have the exploded diagrams in my old pc somewhere. I'll try and dig 'em up at the weekend and post them here mate.
any joy buddy?

[i l k e r]

any joy buddy?

I've found the printouts but couldn't find the pdf file, it must be on one of my backup cds.

give me a couple of days and if I can't find them by then I'll scan it from the printouts.

[i l k e r]

here you go buddy, hope this helps.

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=394&pictureid=10357

[Adey aka Ewok]

sure it will, legend cheers