gear box ratios

[Adey aka Ewok]

has the 11 got shorter ratios than a 5? cruising in 5th on the mway seems to be quite high in the revs?

[Scoff]

has the 11 got shorter ratios than a 5? cruising in 5th on the mway seems to be quite high in the revs?

yes, a shorter diff. 4.07 vs 3.73 so revs will be about 10% higher for the same speed.

[Adey aka Ewok]

ahh rite ok, pain in the ass lol

[Duncan Grier]

gave away a R5 box not long ago - could have had that sir :(

[Adey aka Ewok]

no worries bud, im sure itll hoon me outa corners that little bit quicker on track:agree:

[Andrew Cooke]

doesn't the R11T have taller tyres than the GTT?

[Adey aka Ewok]

Not sure on the tyre size but I know it runs 14s, would that be the reason for the gearing difference? From what I can find the 11 was only 50kgs heavier than the 5 so wouldn't of thought that would be the reason

[Andrew Cooke]

what size 14s?

std GTT = 195/55/13?

[Brigsy]

Ph2 11t tyres are possibly 185/60/14, been that long since i had mine cant remember 100%.

Ph1 11t rims are 13"?

[Adey aka Ewok]

yeah got recipts for 185/60/14

[jack joy]

Standard tyre size for the 11 turbo 175/65/14;)

[markey b]

adey, i've got the same box, 5th/80mph is over 4000rpm! not ideal for motorway driving

[i l k e r]

Ph1 11t rims are 13"?

nope they're 14" mate.

[Adey aka Ewok]

adey, i've got the same box, 5th/80mph is over 4000rpm! not ideal for motorway driving

i know, im spending more time in the slow lane doing 60 now lol

[Paul R]

lol screw 60mph my phse 1 11 tub sound fikin ausume in the outside lane screamin along at just a smidge over 70 honestly officer :devil::devil::devil::devil:

it loved the european roads to the ring LOL :D:D:D:D

[Adey aka Ewok]

all good on short jaunts but it racks up fuel when im doing long distances

[Andrew Cooke]

all good on short jaunts but it racks up fuel when im doing long distances

with the right tyres it's only slightly shorter geared than the GTT, 2%, are you on 50 series?

R11T is 9.1% shorter geared than the GTT

195/55/13 = 21.44" tall - std GTT
175/65/14 = 22.96" tall - std R11T, +7.1% compared to std GTT
195/45/15 = 21.91" tall + 2% compared to std GTT
195/50/15 = 22.68" tall +5.8% compared to std GTT
205/50/15 = 23.07" tall +7.6% compared to std GTT

all those are theoretical, so will differ to reality.

[Schakal]

not sure about the ratios but my r9 gtx box nicely does
70mph at 3k rpm in 5th

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h241/renaultparts/shagall-0024.jpg

[Miller]

Would it be possible to do a similar thing as the VW guys do, they can swap 5th gear in situ and replace it with a taller gear......

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q_how_to/multi/5th_gear_swap.htm

If we can swap them in situ, what 5th gear option are available to us?

Standard gtt is .76

Chris:)

[Adey aka Ewok]

I'm on 195/45/15s and 3k is about 58mph on the gps?

[Adey aka Ewok]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/parts026.jpg

so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?

[Andrew Cooke]

so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?

I wouldn't bother, you have a 0.76, and the longest 5th is a 0.74.

It's either fit a GTT box, or fit some tyres of the right diameter.

[Andrew Cooke]

3K should be more like 63mph, even with your tiny tyres.

http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html

are you sure that your clocks are right, and that you have an R11T box fitted?

[Andrew Cooke]

http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/ekmps/shops/cgbmotorsport/images/7d-1-b.jpg

[Spooky]

funny you should say that, our next potential job on the 11T :D

[Adam L]

Yo, Adrian.

I've got a 5 box, with a busted 2nd gear you can have for nothing if you fancy some gear swapping.

[Spooky]

Yo, Adrian.

I've got a 5 box, with a busted 2nd gear you can have for nothing if you fancy some gear swapping.

same, got one sat round the side of the house...with a rear beam, alloys...:wasntme:

[old skool turbo power]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/parts026.jpg

so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?


from driving my car yesterday on the old motorway yesterday for a long while :)i do remember my speed at 70mph read at about 3,500k.boost was reading at just the 4th mark.all as std as well.and you know when your clutch is on the way out:(just had mine done though:)

[Adey aka Ewok]

Defo not clutch slip, I'll get the ID off the box tomorow, can anyone confirm the box number?

[Brigsy]

Is the speedo/rev counter accurate though? might be worth trying another set of clocks to compare. Every set ive used have read differently!

[Mart]

Chuck a tw*t-nav in your car & compare speedo vs. gps speeds. 4k @ 70 is crazy!

[Adey aka Ewok]

Will use the sat nav tomorow then, I used the one on the iPhone last time so that was probably outa wack too

[Andrew Cooke]

Defo not clutch slip, I'll get the ID off the box tomorow, can anyone confirm the box number?

there are a couple of possibles, I have it written down at home, so no problem.

[Adey aka Ewok]

from what i can make out it says jc511 with a 68 underneath the 11, that sound right or am i looking at the wrong thing? is on a tag thats bolted to the box

[Andrew Cooke]

from what i can make out it says jc511 with a 68 underneath the 11, that sound right or am i looking at the wrong thing? is on a tag thats bolted to the box

I'd need to look, but JC5 isn't right, you should have a JB3. There should be another digit, JC5nnn. You almost certainly have a spurious box fitted.

[Adey aka Ewok]

I'll try and take it off tonight and get a proper look

[Ricardo]

IIRC some JC5 boxes are fitted to the Williams Clio , Clio 172, Megane Coupe 2l 16V as a start list

[Andrew Cooke]

IIRC some JC5 boxes are fitted to the Williams Clio , Clio 172, Megane Coupe 2l 16V as a start list

yep, and loads of diesels etc. I'm guessing it has a 4.21 final drive, or something horrible.

[allanr5gtt]

not sure about the ratios but my r9 gtx box nicely does
70mph at 3k rpm in 5th

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h241/renaultparts/shagall-0024.jpg

so does any one know what the final drive is in the r9 gtx box?

[Adey aka Ewok]

my bad, its jb3 011 so whats that off? also on the tag is C013468?

[Ricardo]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2490905/Renault-Gear-Boxes

[Adey aka Ewok]

:agree: ok have you got a list of car serial numbers so i can see what it comes from lol

[Andrew Cooke]

my bad, its jb3 011 so whats that off? also on the tag is C013468?

R11T:agree:

[Adey aka Ewok]

ok so thats right, my speedo seems right but yet to check properly with the **** nav, does that mean my rev counter is off? how fast should i be traveling at 4k on 195/45/15s then?

[Mart]

Adey, if you decide to out/sell that 'box, give me first dibs please mate.

[Andrew Cooke]

ok so thats right, my speedo seems right but yet to check properly with the **** nav, does that mean my rev counter is off? how fast should i be traveling at 4k on 195/45/15s then?

~84.3mph

[Adey aka Ewok]

if i do ull be my first port of call

[Adey aka Ewok]

~84.3mph
cheers buddy, cheers for all the help peeps:agree:

[Spooky]

if he changes his mind, ill have it, sharky northern geezas :D :p

[Mart]

:laugh:

Adey, I'll have it, so don't get pulling any under-hand Swindon stunts, Spooks!

;)

[Andrew Cooke]

:laugh:

Adey, I'll have it, so don't get pulling any under-hand Swindon stunts, Spooks!

;)

for an ostrich?

[Mart]

Close. I was thinking more along the lines of a bobby...maybe a pony at a push

:D

[Spooky]

:laugh:

Adey, I'll have it, so don't get pulling any under-hand Swindon stunts, Spooks!

;)

I'd never stitch a mate, well...:innocent:...:wasntme:

[Adey aka Ewok]

yours for a monkey

[Mart]

You done alright on that turbo, you geeza.

The heatshield will be in your palms next time we meet up...maybe :D

[Mart]

yours for a monkey

You're fecking crazy. Bullseye tops.

[Ricardo]

yours for a monkey

A score, Bullseye?? :D

[Kris M]

Adey, i set my rev limiter to an indicated 7000 rpm on my original 5GTT orange clocks. Ive since fitted renault 11T clocks to my ph1 and the limiter now comes in at an indicated 7.5k rpm....For what its worth :coffee:

[Adey aka Ewok]

You're fecking crazy. Bullseye tops.

lol was having you on, if i ever wanted to sell it ill let you know;)

[Adey aka Ewok]

Adey, i set my rev limiter to an indicated 7000 rpm on my original 5GTT orange clocks. Ive since fitted renault 11T clocks to my ph1 and the limiter now comes in at an indicated 7.5k rpm....For what its worth :coffee:

cool, i need to sort out another set of clocks then to check it out

[Spooky]

You done alright on that turbo, you geeza.

The heatshield will be in your palms next time we meet up...maybe :D

Yea, that was still 'Marts' not 'mates' rates you sharky geeza ;) :laugh:

[Spooky]

cool, i need to sort out another set of clocks then to check it out

try mine :)

[paul b]

Sorry, not actually been at 70mph for a while.... ;) ...... will take a look next time I back off,:devil:,

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/paulb69_2006/100_0389.jpg

[SIPI]

First post!

There is a little program from my friend

http://dp-automotive.hu/

download the "Renault váltók 1.1" program and install. You can choose gear box and setup the tyre size after it calculate the speed

[xchipx]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/parts026.jpg

so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?


Off topic and an oldish thread, sorry, but does your oil pressure/level gauge work?