Pictures wanted of the phase 2 solid/adjustable alloy top mounts. [Archive]

Lewis

23-01-2010, 17:12

These were the ones Duncan Grier had designed and produced for phase 2's.

Were they adjustable for camber or castor?

I've not seen them but they might be what I need, has anyone got some photos of them please?

minty83

23-01-2010, 20:32

give me a minute and il pop in the garage, got the designs too;)

Spooky

23-01-2010, 21:20

chop chop...i want some of this action as im going custom all round :D

minty83

23-01-2010, 21:49

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=921&pictureid=10159
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=921&pictureid=10158
http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=921&pictureid=10157
Be willing to sell for the right price:cartman:

car.crash

23-01-2010, 21:50

these need reproducing.

Logg

23-01-2010, 22:00

these need reproducing.

I'd 2nd that! I would want a set too!

Nayls

23-01-2010, 22:35

Someone should see about getting these made for R5 fitment

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x257/Naylsgt/topmount.jpg

rs250nut

23-01-2010, 22:54

stu21t

24-01-2010, 11:35

i thought the ones posted above are for a ph1?
i didnt think they fitted a ph2?

rs250nut

24-01-2010, 13:45

i thought the ones posted above are for a ph1?
i didnt think they fitted a ph2?

They do look a lot smaller than the ones I have.

stu21t

24-01-2010, 13:54

i thought the 1s that were made for the ph2 were in 2 parts,
1 kidney shaped like the std mount, and another smaller round adjustable like in the pics above.

im not sure if theyre great anyway as you cant just adjust the camber like you can pon the blue 1s shown above.

i will be fitting something like those to mine eventually as the std top mounts are the only part left on my car that allows a bit of movement but not adjustment. lol

Lewis

24-01-2010, 15:37

I'm sure the eccentric design does not allow camber to change without affecting castor.

I'd be more interested in a design that allows an adjustment of camber and castor seperately.

car.crash

24-01-2010, 20:08

how much for them, or even the blueprints and i can get myself some made.

Spooky

24-01-2010, 20:11

I will speak to AST as they will be building my next set of coilovers for a potential adjustable top mount.

I'll discuss a group buy too.

Woznaldo

24-01-2010, 22:02

Minty, what have you got fitted to the VAG 5?

minty83

24-01-2010, 22:33

Minty, what have you got fitted to the VAG 5?
adjustable custume top mounts the 1's i pictured were the solid spare set.

Woznaldo

25-01-2010, 09:01

The custom mounts you have fitted are the ones Lewis wants pictures and drawings for;).

minty83

25-01-2010, 09:13

The custom mounts you have fitted are the ones Lewis wants pictures and drawings for;).
wll im afraid im not dropping the strut off for a picture and you cant see much of them when there fitted:rolleyes:

stu21t

25-01-2010, 12:12

Check DK Developments build thread, he got the 1st 1s made and has a load of pics on his thread. I think the name of the company who made em is there aswell.

RussellT

25-01-2010, 17:06

rs250nut

25-01-2010, 17:29

See the link.

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/TOPMOUNTS/TOPMOUNTS.html

This is a firm near me who make a standard fit top mount and an adjustable eliptical top mount for the phase 2. Both with spherical bearings. I have used both and they didnt let me down.

Did you use these with standard type damper and spring or coilover? What did you use as a spring cup?

stu21t

25-01-2010, 17:42

again the compbrake/TAS mounts are not the same as the ones danny had made.
i looked through his thread and cant find the pic/details so they must have been on the old site.
might be worth emailing him

and i found that you can use a std top mount bearing as a cup, it fits perfectly on the top of the spring and gives a nice flat surface for the mount to sit against.

RussellT

25-01-2010, 18:53

I used them with coil overs

xenon

26-01-2010, 00:31

See the link.

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/TOPMOUNTS/TOPMOUNTS.html

This is a firm near me who make a standard fit top mount and an adjustable eliptical top mount for the phase 2. Both with spherical bearings. I have used both and they didnt let me down.

interesting this bond!!
on the other hand, can one regulate the set with this kind of cup?

RussellT

26-01-2010, 09:16

The ones in the photo are the ones I have used. You get an alloy plate that replicates the shape of the standard mount and then there is the option of 2 inner plates one with the bearing in the standard position and an eliptical one that you can rotate to increase camber and castor. The spring cup I think was made by the guy who originaly fitted my coil overs. I did have a photo of that on the old site.

xenon

27-01-2010, 00:37

doesn't one put silents blocks between the cup and the shock absorber?

would any type of threaded compound go with this cup? http://compbrake.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=244

I ask because I have this: http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=34

afflicted for all these questions, but I would not like to buy without knowing!! :crap:

DK DEVELOPMENTS

31-01-2010, 12:01

How many people would be intrested in buying a pair of top mounts?

Lewis

31-01-2010, 12:08

I would but can these be used to reduce negative camber and if so by how much?

I've fitted all the Clio Williams front track parts to my 5 so now have shed loads of negative camber that I need to reduce. An adjustable top mount would be ideal as I can retain the use of standard shock mounts and make my adjustment at the top of the turret, if not I might have to get custom made shocks with a longer bracket where they fix to the hub carrier.

From the looks of things they might work,but wether it's enough adjustment for what I need, that why I was hoping to get a look at the drawings...

xenon

31-01-2010, 13:36

How many people would be intrested in buying a pair of top mounts?

me I would be interested!!
but I would like to know if these cup adapts without concern with my suspensions GAS (bond which I put higher!) http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=34

fact it of adding silents blocks ?
I am taking of any information!!

:cool:

rs250nut

31-01-2010, 18:37

How many people would be intrested in buying a pair of top mounts?

I would be dependant on cost.

Woznaldo

01-02-2010, 06:03

I'd be interested.

xenon

03-02-2010, 19:35

an order grouped and it envisaged on these cup of shock absorber :cool: ??
http://compbrake.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=244

because if it came has there of of order to have grouped one, I would get information other French so are interested!!

thank you in advance for information :francais::ujack:

xenon

25-03-2010, 22:35

does future order grouped and it possible?? :)

mr white

25-03-2010, 22:44

i would be intrested depending on price, need to sort out the neg camber i have after fiting the clio 16v wishbone setup.

minty83

26-03-2010, 00:10

il sell the set pictured if anyone is interested???

xenon

01-04-2010, 20:53

il y as déjà une dizaine de français intéressé par ces coupelle !
y' aura t' il une commande groupé bientôt ?

it there ace already about ten French interested by these cup!
will y' have to you it an order grouped soon ? :ashamed:

xenon

03-04-2010, 08:13

Brizza

01-02-2012, 12:32

See the link.

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/TOPMOUNTS/TOPMOUNTS.html

This is a firm near me who make a standard fit top mount and an adjustable eliptical top mount for the phase 2. Both with spherical bearings. I have used both and they didnt let me down.

Hi Russel, Can you confirm the product code for me if thats ok? I'm just ordering a pair and they have quoted them as being Renault 5 Turbo - CMB0244

Cheers,

Ian

Brizza

01-02-2012, 13:01

Can anyone get a pic of a Renault 5 GT Turbo Ph2 Suspension top mount please? :)

tiff_lee

01-02-2012, 13:05

Hi Russel, Can you confirm the product code for me if thats ok? I'm just ordering a pair and they have quoted them as being Renault 5 Turbo - CMB0244

Cheers,

Ian

Save your money they are no good for phase 2 coilovers, I and Gary (SCHWARTZ) can both confirm that. You need the phase 1 coilovers hence my comment in the group buy thread.

You'll end up with camber like this
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0234.jpg

You may be thinking rotate the 'adjustable' mount to remove said camber, think again as it fouls on the strut top
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/mount.jpg

Or alternatively just fit a standard setup
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/tiff_lee_photos/Renault%205/IMAG0260.jpg

tiff_lee

01-02-2012, 13:08

Can anyone get a pic of a Renault 5 GT Turbo Ph2 Suspension top mount please? :)
^^

Brizza

01-02-2012, 13:18

Hi tif,

Can you get any more pics of a standard Ph2 top mount? Compubrake say they might be able to get some made up

Ian

Brizza

01-02-2012, 13:42

tiff_lee please check for PM... :)

tiff_lee

01-02-2012, 16:53

These are phase 2

http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/ekmps/shops/cgbmotorsport/images/dscf5054.jpg

it's just an unnecessary expense when phase 1 items are on the shelf already, just get phase 1 shocks.

Although that said unless you remove some material from the the top mount part on the chassis it will foul as indicated in my picture above, unless you can get the offset/eccentric mounts which are reversed so the protruding part of the mount is underneath with the circlip, like this but eccentric

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension-Acc-39-s/Top-Mounts/PLAIN-FIXED-REVERSED-TOP-MOUNTS-PAIR-/prod_950.html

Brizza

01-02-2012, 17:13

thats brill! many thanks! If i can get some of these made up would there be any interest in them? :) especially seeing as the standard items are discontinued?

SCHWARTZ

01-02-2012, 17:53

Lee, my camber seemed to be even worse with those adj topmounts.:eek:
Imo stick with the standard setup for the car. If you want to fit valver or Willy swing arms drill new holes in the shock tower nearer the wings. If you have camber probs with the standard set up something is wrong so sort that;)

tiff_lee

01-02-2012, 21:25

If you got the reversed style mounts you would get a full range of use with the adjustment but the only other problem is that the phase 2 shocks bolt on off centre to start. Phase 1 plus reversed mount would be a win (phase 1's bolt in the centre of the mount) , independently adjustable camber and castor mounts would be better but then you can't have everything.