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matt1334
02-10-2008, 22:18
spotted in stoke trentham area, a stunning so so so so tidy white gt, spoke with the gezzer and it was Ians son from Ep motorsport, got a pic il try and up load it, it was lush...

not normal
03-10-2008, 13:38
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spotted in stoke trentham area, a stunning so so so so tidy white gt, spoke with the gezzer and it was Ians son from Ep motorsport, got a pic il try and up load it, it was lush...


ians lad parked that on a roundabout IIRC.............its now dead

paul b
03-10-2008, 13:52
oh dear.......:(

matt1334
05-10-2008, 19:29
Iirc ???????????

raj
05-10-2008, 20:39
Iirc ???????????
if i recall correctly.

i thought you where uploading a picture of it.?

eddie
15-11-2008, 08:54
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:laugh:iv seen it to look sweet and think ian did the engine before it was sold

Trevhib
15-11-2008, 11:47
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God help the new owner then.:sad2::coffee: ep was a right butcher.:laugh:

Hmmm. In a world of butchers, his cuts were better than most.

dj13
15-11-2008, 12:24
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Hmmm. In a world of butchers, his cuts were better than most.


Shame really because he was a nice bloke. just a shame he didnt have a clue about carb jets!!:eek:

Trevhib
15-11-2008, 13:26
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Shame really because he was a nice bloke. just a shame he didnt have a clue about carb jets!!:eek:

Funny that because I know personally, at least for the accel jet, that he has every clue. I watched every second as he solved that very issue on a carb of mine years ago. And then charged me about £5 for the pleasure.

He's not squeaky clean and granted my issue wasn't the most vital fuelling problem but there are far worse people you could have gone to back in the day.

Sweeping generalisations about people who've contributed hugely to the GTT scene are not going to make you any friends on here.

eddie
15-11-2008, 14:26
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ian is a top bloke used to work for ian on saturdays

Markey Mark (BD)
15-11-2008, 16:23
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ian is a top bloke used to work for ian on saturdays

I agree with you there mate, i got to know Ian really well over the years a top bloke. He did a large amount of work on my old 5 in the old days untill i learnt enough to do it all myself:D
Did learn a great deal off him and he was always willing to give me advice and tips on jobs.

5alldaway
16-11-2008, 03:54
always a happy customer of ep, car ran nice enough when they touched it

Markey Mark (BD)
16-11-2008, 18:32
Surley if he was also as good as what you make out you would all still be enjoying his fruitfull services??

Who was that directed at mate, me or 5alldaway?

dj13
16-11-2008, 19:10
Surley if he was also as good as what you make out you would all still be enjoying his fruitfull services??

Who was that directed at mate, me or 5alldaway?



Not directley aimed at anyone imparticular? Just a bit of food for thought. Ie Ep is no more?? Why is that exactly? If he was such a top tuner?? :confused:

Scoff
16-11-2008, 19:18
Not directley aimed at anyone imparticular? Just a bit of food for thought. Ie Ep is no more?? Why is that exactly? If he was such a top tuner?? :confused:

I'm not a tuner anymore, was I that bad too ? or maybe there are more factors to the survival of a business than just being good or not ;)

I hear what your saying though danny, your right, his carburettors were not clever a lot of the time. I had some of his carburettors come to me, most would run lean, one went dangerously lean at only 16psi boost!! on the other hand, I dealt with one he did for matt's / charlottes gtt and it fueled beautifully upto 25psi, so a mixed bag.

at everything else he was very good, leages ahead of the other tuners in terms of raw ability.

just my 2p.

BriC
16-11-2008, 19:20
You were my hero Scoff :cry:

Markey Mark (BD)
16-11-2008, 19:24
There were a few things that happened and reasons that made Ian decide to close the workshop, i believe he is still doing some work on 5's from his house. I didn't stop using EP for any particular reason, i just developed enough knowledge to tune them myself and had my own ideas on doing things.

Scoff
16-11-2008, 19:25
You were my hero Scoff :cry:

ok, but that scares me *lol*

BriC
16-11-2008, 19:25
:scared: I scare myself sometimes.

Trevhib
16-11-2008, 22:13
Where's that worst thread ever smiley? Ah, this one will do instead - :bored:

Mart
16-11-2008, 22:23
Well seems he may of picked and chose who's carbs he actuall sorted out then? Or you didn't put two and two together . Either way from mine and a few mates point of view he cost us alot of money.With his willy nilly jets. I couldn't give too ticks about making friends dude im only telling you me and friends experiances. We have sack fulls of head gaskets and linairs that failed due to his poor fueling carbs(group a of course)
Surley if he was also as good as what you make out you would all still be enjoying his fruitfull services??

Q. How did he actually read the afr readings come to think of it ??

A. He didn't.................:sad2:


Q. Did you have an afr meter to measure the fuelling?

Q. After the first gasket/liner had failed, wasn't any alarm bells ringing as to why they may have failed?

Q. Why keep replacing the gaskets/liners if there was an obvious problem that seemingly wasn't being resolved each time?

Trevhib
16-11-2008, 23:13
Q. Did you have an afr meter to measure the fuelling?

Q. After the first gasket/liner had failed, wasn't any alarm bells ringing as to why they may have failed?

Q. Why keep replacing the gaskets/liners if there was an obvious problem that seemingly wasn't being resolved each time?

It's like buying an Aston Martin new instead of one that's six month's old Mart. It aint worth it. :crap:

dj13
17-11-2008, 08:31
Q. Did you have an afr meter to measure the fuelling?

Q. After the first gasket/liner had failed, wasn't any alarm bells ringing as to why they may have failed?

Q. Why keep replacing the gaskets/liners if there was an obvious problem that seemingly wasn't being resolved each time?




Mart .
At the time we were young lads we weren't members of any RTOC clubs etc. We trusted his words,' The carbs are ok there "group A." '
As people have so helpfully pointed out ep was the man to go to with your 5 woe's.
Shamlessly we didn't no about afr's etc. The first time we did ask him about afr's etc he said bring it down and he'd set it up via his 4 gas analyser at this point we had done a bit of homework realising that you can't read afr's via 4 gas anaylyser. This was when we clicked that he didn't actually do anything except willy nilly carbs. At that point my mate was fortunate to come into contact with another top tuner via the rtoc. We never looked back and to be honest feel quiet lucky because I'm sure there'll be others who had his "group a" carbs and then when did fail take there 5 gt happily back to ep for the headgasket/new linairs etc followed by a big bill ! ! With ian or whoever knowing full well(or not as it were) that it was infact his "group a carbs" had brought him another big job .

I'm sorry to the guys who had a great experiance with the said chap unfortunatley we didn't and because of this I feel well within my rights to express these storeys of missfortune. People NO your tuner.

Mart
17-11-2008, 09:07
Fair comment, and yep of course you can express your feelings about it all; that's what these boards are for after all :)

However, and I don't mean this in a patronising way, but after a couple of gaskets/liners had failed, surely common sense would've kicked in to say that something wasn't right somewhere down the line?

With stories like that, it's no wonder joe public always perceive these cars as being unreliable by always popping headgaskets.

At least you're all sorted now :agree: Another case of you live & learn I guess...

5alldaway
17-11-2008, 12:24
if u have an issue with ian and his knowledge why dont u correct him to his face

dj13
17-11-2008, 12:42
Fair comment, and yep of course you can express your feelings about it all; that's what these boards are for after all :)

.

At least you're all sorted now :agree: Another case of you live & learn I guess...




Indeed. :D

eddie
17-11-2008, 16:46
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yes alex thats right lol

Trevhib
17-11-2008, 18:00
Indeed. :D

And if you'd have explained your situation in the more rounded manner you eventually achieved, instead of the inept 'ep was a right butcher' you'd have gotten a more positive response, and sooner.

dj13
17-11-2008, 18:52
And if you've have explained your situation in the more rounded manner you eventually achieved, instead of the inept 'ep was a right butcher' you'd have gotten a more positive response sooner.



potato======== Patatoe

Mart
17-11-2008, 19:20
linairs ===== liners

Trevhib
17-11-2008, 20:04
potato======== Patatoe

Quality, Dan Quayle is a member of RTOC :laugh:

dj13
17-11-2008, 20:43
linairs ===== liners


Pmsl. Gets me very time.:agree:

Adam L
17-11-2008, 21:06
linairs ===== liners

:laugh: