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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5MVVtFYTSo&videos=s98Ot5nLKxU&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1
Ok Im a firm believer that area 51 in the nevada desert was infact the film set of the luna landing.
The lack of a thrust crater was enough for me.
My mate at work says its impossible to fake, and i quote "because it was on TV"
Anyone got an opinion?
rs250nut
22-12-2009, 11:47
I think for every major event that has ever happened in this world some one some where has a conspiracy theory for that major event, thats all it ever is though theory, never 100% percent proven meaning its not fact.
im with you kenobi ive looked into this in some detail and the moon landing simply did not take place. in my opinion of course
ofcourse it was faked. Do u really think they had the technology to get to the moon in 1969?? Your mobile phone is 100 times more advanced than the tech they had at mission control 40 years ago
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:35
I think for every major event that has ever happened in this world some one some where has a conspiracy theory for that major event, thats all it ever is though theory, never 100% percent proven meaning its not fact.
Sorry pal , fail Fail and FAIL, What you have just wrote is a theory not a fact !
Direct reflex action. The term "conspiracy theory" is one used when a situation arises to question or to in some case's prove near 100% somthing is not honest and transparent and that we have not been told the truth.
IF we believe a lie is true, therefore, We think the truth when told, is only a theory.
We then in turn have people who research other people and events, to uncover the truth in some case's , to then be labelled "conspiracy theorist" "mad"or so on and so for :sad2:
Which is dump founded "Direct reflex action" if you dont know better you dont back the minority do you, nah you belive the majority ;)
Which have all been reading, educated to believe a lie is true, therefore, We think the truth when told, is only another conspiracy theory.
Were power or someone making money is concerned, the "conspiracy theory" is a word that makes people think arrrh i know label anyone that uncovers our truth one of them,
The persons with all the money and all to gain, wouldnt lie , would they ? :cry: trained idiots all us people are, for beliving all this cod for so long.
Reseach into any given area, It becomes apparent that the truth isnt what has been interperted in many major events in the past, and worrying the planned out future is not looking good.
not conspiracy theory but a fact 100 %
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:37
it is no fact that people have landed on the moon. just a chapter someone somewhere want you to belive ??!! why ££££$$$$££££$$$$££££$$$$$££££
Someone shut the box please ...the fecker's got out again :D:cooter:
James George
22-12-2009, 12:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5MVVtFYTSo&videos=s98Ot5nLKxU&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1
Ok Im a firm believer that area 51 in the nevada desert was infact the film set of the luna landing.
The lack of a thrust crater was enough for me.
My mate at work says its impossible to fake, and i quote "because it was on TV"
Anyone got an opinion?
think this is all old news and a load of bollocks! think its been put beyond doubt that they did land on the moon. pretty sure they have had a satellite up their of late and confirmed the moon landing site and bits that were left etc.
youngscottie
22-12-2009, 12:41
of course they went there
bloke said down the pub so it must be true
elvis was there as well:laugh:
Sorry pal , fail Fail and FAIL, What you have just wrote is a theory not a fact !
Direct reflect action. The term "conspiracy theory" is one used when a situation arises to question or to in some case's prove 100% somthing is honest and transparent and that we have had the truth.
Were power or someone making money is concerned, the "conspiracy theory" is a word that makes people think arrrh i know, the person with all the money and all to gain, wouldnt lie :cry: idiots
reseach into any given area is another. It becomes apparent that the truth isnt what has been interperted in many major events.
not conspiracy theory but a fact 100 %
Things were lead to belive, are 99% not facts. and if you spe
I knew the nut job would have somthing to say, or yet try and make everybody elses opinions wrong.
Its was only a matter of time.. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy some entertainment:laugh:
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:45
People landed on moon and got told not to go back by alians, the Dark side is surposed to have structures that are massive.
Its all about the blood lines who knows were when and what happened.
Anyway i belive we arnt alone ;)
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Someone shut the box please ...the fecker's got out again :D:cooter:
of course they went there
bloke said down the pub so it must be true
elvis was there as well:laugh:
Nope fail FAIL fail ......
Elvis in fact runs an auto electrical outfit in Langley Mill . Honestly he does .He rewired the cd in the 21 for me ....I said thank you very much :D
http://www.freeindex.co.uk/profile%28elvis-presley-tribute-show%29_116124.htm
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:48
I knew the nut job would have somthing to say, or yet try and make everybody elses opinions wrong.
Its was only a matter of time.. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy some entertainment:laugh:
direct reflet action , calling me a nut job. wind ya neck in :cool: :laugh:
no just posting my veiw, you dont seem to have one :ho:
feck off :devil:
direct reflet action , calling me a nut job. wind ya neck in :cool: :laugh:
no just posting my veiw, you dont seem to have one :ho:
feck off :devil:
quack quack my opinion would be wrong anyway
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:51
are you fecking serious clee, dont direct any thing else at me, you also please jpr, bullsh8t post towards me arnt approved and also theres no need for it.
People landed on moon and got told not to go back by alians, the Dark side is surposed to have structures that are massive.
Its all about the blood lines who knows were when and what happened.
Anyway i belive we arnt alone ;)
"There is a santa claus"
For those who know what I'm on about.
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 12:52
quack quack my opinion would be wrong anyway
Fail, your "opinion" can never be wrong as is your opinion :ho: :wasntme:
are you fecking serious clee, dont direct any thing else at me, you also please jpr, bullsh8t post towards me arnt approved and also theres no need for it.
Dave, dont let them put your views down, ignore them and dont rise to it mate.
I know what i belive in, we mybe did land on the moon... we maybe all became witness to a huge hoax...
I just wish/hope aliens make contact before i die... as we cant be alone..
are you fecking serious clee, dont direct any thing else at me, you also please jpr, bullsh8t post towards me arnt approved and also theres no need for it.
Oh shut up you tart !!
I know what i belive in, we mybe did land on the moon... we maybe all became witness to a huge hoax...
I just wish/hope aliens make contact before i die... as we cant be alone..
Dave j gtt im only winding you up ;) i mean no harm, i come in peace :)
youngscottie
22-12-2009, 12:56
of course they went there
bloke said down the pub so it must be true
elvis was there as well:laugh:
Nope fail FAIL fail ......
Elvis in fact runs an auto electrical outfit in Langley Mill . Honestly he does .He rewired the cd in the 21 for me ....I said thank you very much :D
http://www.freeindex.co.uk/profile%28elvis-presley-tribute-show%29_116124.htm
that made my day that has :laugh:
now can anyone tell me if santa really exsists
or shuould i drink the milk and eat the mincepies myself:)
that made my day that has :laugh:
now can anyone tell me if santa really exsists
or shuould i drink the milk and eat the mincepies myself:)
I wait to catch him nicking the pie and milk every year.... but always wake up in bed with crums round my mouth and milk on the sheets:cry:
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 13:01
:laugh: JRP i feel the same hope its within my life, or do i :confused:
clee no probs but i cant just sit back :cool:
i went from :dearme: to :cool: reading the above posts then :ho:
I think for every major event that has ever happened in this world some one some where has a conspiracy theory for that major event, thats all it ever is though theory, never 100% percent proven meaning its not fact.
one theory that bugs me is the 9/11 attacks especially what happened with regards to the pentagon. It is the most closely guarded building in the world it has over 400 CCTV cameras yet not one managed to record footage of a plane flying into the building!!
The whole world we live in is a lie
:laugh: JRP i feel the same hope its within my life, or do i :confused:
clee no probs but i cant just sit back :cool:
i went from :dearme: to :cool: reading the above posts then :ho:
Amstrong can be clearly heard telling control that Santa Claus does exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRczksok_A&videos=s98Ot5nLKxU&playnext=13&playnext_from=TL
dangerous dave
22-12-2009, 13:40
they were in a race with russion leader Whochoppedyacockoff to get there so i think it was faked to either beat them, because they didn't make it, or because this is the US and theres only one thing better than landing on it, selling great film footage, great photos for everyone to see the US taking a huge steaming dump on the rest of the space race.. :ho:
tiff_lee
22-12-2009, 13:58
Of course they faked it, I saw them recording it in James Bond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKUCiS5ElMw
there has been things on sky to prove that it did not happen.
Grid points on pictures with things infront of them,
Shadows in multiple directions, looks like stage lighting,
Back of the spaceship was visible even though the sun was directly behind it, it should have been in complete darkness.
The walking was shown, that buy slowing down the tape could achieve this effect.
All the deaths surrounding the mission.
My mind was made up after watching that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnuFLxfPs8&videos=s98Ot5nLKxU&playnext=15&playnext_from=TL
Seriously they even faked going half way to the moon.
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 14:15
they were in a race with russion leader Whochoppedyacockoff to get there so i think it was faked to either beat them, because they didn't make it, or because this is the US and theres only one thing better than landing on it, selling great film footage, great photos for everyone to see the US taking a huge steaming dump on the rest of the space race.. :ho:
who were the investors ? who were the companie's in a race to have the most money more like.... think of how much money the space race did and still dose swallow. lots of people pockets are being lined well and truley
of course they went there
bloke said down the pub so it must be true
elvis was there as well:laugh:
You forgot the WWII Lancaster bomber discovered by the Sunday Spurt years ago.
The whole world we live in is a lie
That's a damn lie! Oh, erm, no, it isn't, you're telling the tru... oh s5*t now I'm really confused.
On other matters. Dave, have you and Mr White merged following that last round of utter nonsense? He seems to have disappeared and I can only assume that two have become one.
Here's my conspiracy theory - You haven't got any medical condition, you intentionally sporadically spell words incorrectly in order to make people think harder as to what it is you're saying. This in turn plants your dirty seed deeper into people's brain. Assuming that is, that we as humans have a brain and that it's not a global conspiracy to keep us from knowing what really exists inside our heads...dark matter in your case.
:santa:
That's a damn lie! Oh, erm, no, it isn't, you're telling the tru... oh s5*t now I'm really confused.
On other matters. Dave, have you and Mr White merged following that last round of utter nonsense? He seems to have disappeared and I can only assume that two have become one.
Here's my conspiracy theory - You haven't got any medical condition, you intentionally sporadically spell words incorrectly in order to make people think harder as to what it is you're saying. This in turn plants your dirty seed deeper into people's brain. Assuming that is, that we as humans have a brain and that it's not a global conspiracy to keep us from knowing what really exists inside our heads...dark matter in your case.
:santa:
Are you picking him up in his spelling? cos thats a bit sad.
OK heres my conspiricy.
I recently was presented with a document. This was about the state of obesity in the country.
It went on and on and on.
To cut what could be a long drawn out post short, they are considering upping the daily calorie intake by 500 calories a day for men, women, and children.
Now upping the amount during a stage that a huge percentage of the population is already obese....
My theory is they are trying to kill a great number off.. to make way for somthing or do this then show the amount of deaths etc to make people loose weight via shock tactics.
Thought id throw that in:)
DUDES on topic.
Moon landing eqauls Fake.
next weeks duscussion is about USA Navy Project Rainbow.
Are you picking him up in his spelling? cos thats a bit sad.
No I'm picking him up ON his spelling in order to poke fun at his proclivity for wasting time circulating conspiracy theories.
Anyway, haven't you got something spurious to be adding on the 'Richie' thread?
Most boring thread on rtoc period, apart from the sarcastic digs:laugh:
No I'm picking him up ON his spelling in order to poke fun at his proclivity for wasting time circulating conspiracy theories.
Anyway, haven't you got something spurious to be adding on the 'Richie' thread?
Doesnt Spurious mean untrue or false?
What ya saying?
Most boring thread on rtoc period, apart from the sarcastic digs:laugh:
Glad you have formed an opinion of this thread in the general chat forum and shared it with us.
Doesnt Spurious mean untrue or false?
What ya saying?
In fairness I meant superfluous and I thank you for highlighting it because I always get the two words mixed up and needed a steer. :agree:
On the other hand.... So now you're picking me up on language? Bloody hypocrite! :laugh:
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Jon. Welcome to the party bud :) I agree totally, hence my involvement here. Join in, it's fun :wasntme:
In fairness I meant superfluous and I thank you for highlighting it because I always get the two words mixed up and needed a steer. :agree:
On the other hand.... So now you're picking me up on language? Bloody hypocrite! :laugh:
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Jon. Welcome to the party bud :) I agree totally, hence my involvement here. Join in, it's fun :wasntme:
What goes around comes around ;)
Just like the Moon :agree:
In fairness I meant superfluous and I thank you for highlighting it because I always get the two words mixed up and needed a steer. :agree:
On the other hand.... So now you're picking me up on language? Bloody hypocrite! :laugh:
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Jon. Welcome to the party bud :) I agree totally, hence my involvement here. Join in, it's fun :wasntme:
No mate I was asking if you where calling me a liar using some old latin word. :agree::cooter:
Purple_rob
22-12-2009, 15:35
I'm surprised not one person has mentioned mythbusters yet.
They tested some on the conspiracies and disproved everyone. Very interesting.
My verdict is " we went to the moon".
I saw them the other day with a bloody big slingshot trying to launch people across the US Canadian border .Now all they have to do is scale that up and voila ! Moon landing ,sorted, job done :agree:
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 15:40
OK heres my conspiricy.
I recently was presented with a document. This was about the state of obesity in the country.
It went on and on and on.
To cut what could be a long drawn out post short, they are considering upping the daily calorie intake by 500 calories a day for men, women, and children.
Now upping the amount during a stage that a huge percentage of the population is already obese....
My theory is they are trying to kill a great number off.. to make way for somthing or do this then show the amount of deaths etc to make people loose weight via shock tactics.
Thought id throw that in:)
make perfect sence to me, as i belive we exceed 5 billion long time ago :rolleyes:
trev your a sad un :eek:
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 15:45
in fact there are , 1 billion 692 million 032 hundred thousand 227 people to many
thats going form the 6692032227 people on earth today.
No mate I was asking if you where calling me a liar using some old latin word. :agree::cooter:
Er, yeah, I realised that the first time, hence my reply replacing spurious with superfluous to quite rightly correct the intent of my original riposte.
Here is some assistance - www.dictionary.com
Phil, yes it does and the difference with me is that I can say thanks when I'm corrected because it's actually useful to me. Now where's that patronising smiley, ah yes - :)
Ooh, I mustn't forget the disclaimer in the footer - :ho:
dave j gtt
22-12-2009, 16:06
Too many for whom ?
too many people for the earth to surport, its wrote on a stone from many moons ago. that the worlds population shouldnt exceed 5 billion.
All or a lot of today actions are trying to keep in line with this.
OR so I belive and am sure we will witness mass death and plauge style illnesses, in the furture.
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&q=earth's+population
it was early 80's i geuss when they started to get worried ! and now well figures speak for them selfs.
I geuss we all had cancer when born and all the other man made illnesses and diseases.
hiv "aids" look when they orginated and wonder why ;)
too many people for the earth to surport, its wrote on a stone from many moons ago. that the worlds population shouldnt exceed 5 billion.
All or a lot of today actions are trying to keep in line with this.
OR so I belive and am sure we will witness mass death and plauge style illnesses, in the furture.
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&q=earth's+population
it was early 80's i geuss when they started to get worried ! and now well figures speak for them selfs.
I geuss we all had cancer when born and all the other man made illnesses and diseases.
hiv "aids" look when they orginated and wonder why ;)
Shall we all get together and buy you a dictionary? Its just not even worth attempting to try and understand what you are saying when half the words are not even English let alone put in the right context.
Er, yeah, I realised that the first time, hence my reply replacing spurious with superfluous to quite rightly correct the intent of my original riposte.
Here is some assistance - www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com)
Phil, yes it does and the difference with me is that I can say thanks when I'm corrected because it's actually useful to me. Now where's that patronising smiley, ah yes - :)
Ooh, I mustn't forget the disclaimer in the footer - :ho:
Look mate I dont know what your going on about now. So I bow out and leave you 2 it. :sad2:
too many people for the earth to surport, its wrote on a stone from many moons ago. that the worlds population shouldnt exceed 5 billion.
I reckon I know what that is ...Stone tablet you say ? max occupancy 5 billlion ...does it say how heavy ? average of course .
It's just the manufacturer covering his arse :coffee:
I reckon I know what that is ...Stone tablet you say ? max occupancy 5 billlion ...does it say how heavy ? average of course .
It's just the manufacturer covering his arse :coffee:
LOL.
[QUOTE=dave j gtt;120542]in fact there are , 1 billion 692 million 032 hundred thousand 227 people to many
Isn't that how many polish dudes they have let in the UK over the last 18 months???
:laugh:
RTOC gold :laugh:
Classic:laugh:
Just to add fuel - Has anyone seen the pictures of the american flag on the moon blowing in the wind? Funny - thought the moon had no atmosphere, i.e. no wind:p
Classic:laugh:
Just to add fuel - Has anyone seen the pictures of the american flag on the moon blowing in the wind? Funny - thought the moon had no atmosphere, i.e. no wind:p
Nice one - back to topic. Yes the nevada desert does have wind. :agree:
they put a wire in the top of the flag, so that you actually see the face on the flag. - what use is flying all that way, to put your flag in the moons surface and not actually have anyone see it? :rolleyes:
I guess the Shuttle missions are faked as well then? And the ISS is floating 100ft above the ground in Area 51 no doubt...
And all those poor sods who died whilst carry out numerous tests for the Apollo project, and likewise all those that have been lost on past Shuttle missions are all faked deaths & they're laughing it up as we speak.
:dearme:
I guess the Shuttle missions are faked as well then? And the ISS is floating 100ft above the ground in Area 51 no doubt...
And all those poor sods who died whilst carry out numerous tests for the Apollo project, and likewise all those that have been lost on past Shuttle missions are all faked deaths & they're laughing it up as we speak.
:dearme:
For example the launchpad fire that claimed lives during apollo 1's pre flight.
Direct reflect action.
Not having a dig but I'm still struggling with what the above statement means?
Not having a dig but I'm still struggling with what the above statement means?
I gave up trying to understand it ashy... Hey is it a pointless thread or are mine worse ? :laugh::wasntme::laugh: must just be mine
Look mate I dont know what your going on about now. So I bow out and leave you 2 it. :sad2:
Well it's in plain English, not much more I can do. Not to worry bud.
Incidentally I agree with Dave in that the world is over populated currently. That a figure written on some stone is dictating any kind of organised action or that a disease has been introduced to curb an explosion is the worst kind of tits - saggy and watery with big nips. :chuckup:
I guess the Shuttle missions are faked as well then? And the ISS is floating 100ft above the ground in Area 51 no doubt...
And all those poor sods who died whilst carry out numerous tests for the Apollo project, and likewise all those that have been lost on past Shuttle missions are all faked deaths & they're laughing it up as we speak.
:dearme:
The deffinatley died. Thier own families suggest the CIA or some other government agency actually sabotaged and killed them.
mr white
22-12-2009, 20:10
That's a damn lie! Oh, erm, no, it isn't, you're telling the tru... oh s5*t now I'm really confused.
On other matters. Dave, have you and Mr White merged following that last round of utter nonsense? He seems to have disappeared and I can only assume that two have become one.
Here's my conspiracy theory - You haven't got any medical condition, you intentionally sporadically spell words incorrectly in order to make people think harder as to what it is you're saying. This in turn plants your dirty seed deeper into people's brain. Assuming that is, that we as humans have a brain and that it's not a global conspiracy to keep us from knowing what really exists inside our heads...dark matter in your case.
:santa:
if it was anyone to bring up my name it would be you. well been reading alot more lately just, reading a book by thomas hobbes at the moment its called leviathan but its probably not your sort of book but i am planing on reading this after by leo tolstoy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_God_Is_Within_You as well as his book war and peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_and_peace then after that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract this last year ive got through quite a few books
I guess the Shuttle missions are faked as well then? And the ISS is floating 100ft above the ground in Area 51 no doubt...
And all those poor sods who died whilst carry out numerous tests for the Apollo project, and likewise all those that have been lost on past Shuttle missions are all faked deaths & they're laughing it up as we speak.
:dearme:
no shuttle missions were'nt faked even when the 'supposed moon landing' shuttle was launched people were sent to orbit. but goin into orbit and goin to the moon are 2 very different things. at the time they werent even sure wether they could get there due to the levels of radiation goin through the van allen radiation belt and even today when satelites pass through that belt most of the electronics are shut down to save them being fryed so how people belive they could take a whole shuttle through it with lunar landing pod and moon buggys and then just land go for bit of a joy ride round in them and fly home is ludacris. Have you seen the footage of when they attempted to fly the landing pod on earth? its un-flyable they crashed withing minutes of taking off! They landed the pod at 3 sites on the moon and left 3 frlags yet the photos when super imposed over each other had absolutley identical landscapes Hmmmmmm??? No way this took place!!!
The deffinatley died. Thier own families suggest the CIA or some other government agency actually sabotaged and killed them.
Thats not like the Americans.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biv-8KeKOv8
5alldaway
22-12-2009, 21:45
i tend to think whatever the yanks have to say is normally horsesheet!
no shuttle missions were'nt faked even when the 'supposed moon landing' shuttle was launched people were sent to orbit. but goin into orbit and goin to the moon are 2 very different things. at the time they werent even sure wether they could get there due to the levels of radiation goin through the van allen radiation belt and even today when satelites pass through that belt most of the electronics are shut down to save them being fryed so how people belive they could take a whole shuttle through it with lunar landing pod and moon buggys and then just land go for bit of a joy ride round in them and fly home is ludacris. Have you seen the footage of when they attempted to fly the landing pod on earth? its un-flyable they crashed withing minutes of taking off! They landed the pod at 3 sites on the moon and left 3 frlags yet the photos when super imposed over each other had absolutley identical landscapes Hmmmmmm??? No way this took place!!!
I was being sarcastic about the shuttle missions.
The Shuttle's first test flight was early '77 - Only 8 years after the moon landing, so you're telling me the technology wasn't already in the pipeline for 'return to base' rockets in the late 60's/early 70's, or did they just string the Shuttle together hoping for the best? Unless all those Shuttle test flights of the late 70's are fakes as well... :rolleyes:
I've never heard nor seen videos of the LM being tested on Earth, but all the space test-landings in zero G were successful.
As for the Van Allen belt, the Apollo craft was shielded respectively, and given the speed they were travelling through the belt, as opposed to a 'stationary' satellite, there was no/little danger to the craft or persons within - Armstrong & co are still going strong after all.
rs250nut
22-12-2009, 22:00
Sorry pal , fail Fail and FAIL, What you have just wrote is a theory not a fact !
Direct reflect action. The term "conspiracy theory" is one used when a situation arises to question or to in some case's prove 100% somthing is honest and transparent and that we have had the truth.
1. A conspiracy theory is a theory hence the name. A conspiracy theory is somthing drummed up by a group of people who believe they have not heard the truth so they come up with an alternative account of what happened. Wiki it.
Were power or someone making money is concerned, the "conspiracy theory" is a word that makes people think arrrh i know, the person with all the money and all to gain, wouldnt lie :cry: idiots
2. I dont know what to make of the above sentence, tosh and makes about as much sence as a split condom spring to mind.
reseach into any given area is another. It becomes apparent that the truth isnt what has been interperted in many major events.
Things were lead to belive, are 99% not facts. and if you spe
3. Where did I state that what I wrote was fact, its my opinion and further down this thread you say people are welome to have an opinion.:)
I was being sarcastic about the shuttle missions.
The Shuttle's first test flight was early '77 - Only 8 years after the moon landing, so you're telling me the technology wasn't already in the pipeline for 'return to base' rockets in the late 60's/early 70's, or did they just string the Shuttle together hoping for the best? Unless all those Shuttle test flights of the late 70's are fakes as well... :rolleyes:
I've never heard nor seen videos of the LM being tested on Earth, but all the space test-landings in zero G were successful.
As for the Van Allen belt, the Apollo craft was shielded respectively, and given the speed they were travelling through the belt, as opposed to a 'stationary' satellite, there was no/little danger to the craft or persons within - Armstrong & co are still going strong after all.
of course theres still goin strong they didnt pass through it. and satelites orbit at 17-18,000 kmph which is higher than the speed the shuttle would of been travelling at that altitude as the speed would decrease as it gets further away from earth. i did not question wether they had the technology for return to base rockets and i wasnt intending to imply that you thought that shuttle missions were fakes i was simply high lighting to people reading it then that the apollo mission did go into space but did not go to the moon.all in my opinion of course. just another point to high light it was ESTIMATED at its strongest point the van allen radiation belt would require 9m thick lead insulating to be protected from it which has since been shown to be innacurate but at that time the astronaughts were not provided with such insulation so nasa were prepared to send people to there almost ceratin deaths?
if it was anyone to bring up my name it would be you. well been reading alot more lately just, reading a book by thomas hobbes at the moment its called leviathan but its probably not your sort of book but i am planing on reading this after by leo tolstoy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_God_Is_Within_You as well as his book war and peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_and_peace then after that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract this last year ive got through quite a few books
Apologies, you seem to have misunderstood. I'm not interested in where you've been or what you're reading.
of course theres still goin strong they didnt pass through it. and satelites orbit at 17-18,000 kmph which is higher than the speed the shuttle would of been travelling at that altitude as the speed would decrease as it gets further away from earth. i did not question wether they had the technology for return to base rockets and i wasnt intending to imply that you thought that shuttle missions were fakes i was simply high lighting to people reading it then that the apollo mission did go into space but did not go to the moon.all in my opinion of course. just another point to high light it was ESTIMATED at its strongest point the van allen radiation belt would require 9m thick lead insulating to be protected from it which has since been shown to be innacurate but at that time the astronaughts were not provided with such insulation so nasa were prepared to send people to there almost ceratin deaths?
Yes, orbit, but not passing through.
Being sent to the moon is hardly a walk in the park, so obviously the astronauts knew the score when they signed upto the programme. No different to people who join the armed forces - They know there's always a possibility that one day they might take a bullet.
of course theres still goin strong they didnt pass through it
Ahh, missed that gem...
So if they didn't go into space, assuming all the thousands of people that watched the take-off live weren't bribed to keep their mouths shut (:rolleyes:), where did Armstrong & co go then? If it were simply orbiting the Earth, don't you think the Russian's, with their tracking technology, would've piped up to the world's media given the height of the Cold War around that time, and hence would've scored an easy point over the yanks on that occasion?
another gem you missed was i said that they DID go into space just i dont believe they landed. gonna leave it at that.
And as I said, where did they go then, bearing in mind Russia was no doubt tracking their every move...
Checkmate :agree:
And as I said, where did they go then, bearing in mind Russia was no doubt tracking their every move...
Checkmate :agree:
lol .the russian side of it ive honestly not seen any info on so couldnt comment i dont know if they even had the ability back then to 'track' to 100,000 km above earth?
I think you'll find they did ;)
Remember, they put the first satellite & man into space, so they weren't exactly lagging behind in the technology stakes.
Penfold aka The Dealer
23-12-2009, 07:54
I have doubt whether or not the moon landing really did take place, there are alot of funny things regarding this...
"how come NASA plan going back to the moon but wont be for another 30 years as they dont have the technology"
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
There is also records of Neil Armstrong saying the astronauts were "warned" away from area's on the moons by "things" that were bigger "things" & there technology was far greater than what NASA & humans had...
What really gets me is NASA have millions of huge picture's but only ever release picture's in 12" x by 12" format but the picture's were originally taken to be used in 48" x 48" format... but nasa wont release the full size picture's until 2199!
Yep. because of the super structures on the moon.
dave j gtt
23-12-2009, 11:31
I have doubt whether or not the moon landing really did take place, there are alot of funny things regarding this...
"how come NASA plan going back to the moon but wont be for another 30 years as they dont have the technology"
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
There is also records of Neil Armstrong saying the astronauts were "warned" away from area's on the moons by "things" that were bigger "things" & there technology was far greater than what NASA & humans had...
What really gets me is NASA have millions of huge picture's but only ever release picture's in 12" x by 12" format but the picture's were originally taken to be used in 48" x 48" format... but nasa wont release the full size picture's until 2199!
warned away is my belief and also the technology being far superior,
Any pic of the moon has been edited, to hide what ?
dave j gtt
23-12-2009, 11:32
Yep. because of the super structures on the moon.
i said that earlier in the topic i think.
dave j gtt
23-12-2009, 11:47
one theory that bugs me is the 9/11 attacks especially what happened with regards to the pentagon. It is the most closely guarded building in the world it has over 400 CCTV cameras yet not one managed to record footage of a plane flying into the building!!
The whole world we live in is a lie
so its not just me that thinks, and reads stuff that explains situations we've witnessed , and been lied to about.
there are so many things that are lies, that capture your beliefs and justify and actions taken by people in power.
IE IRAQ and afgan. just a war for power and money, **** all to do with 9/11, or nuclear power.
after all 9/11 , Made Blair say this to the public. the world will never be the same.
the new laws , old laws broken , crock of **** , PEOPLE i do not speak crap.
the next war , is going be a bad one. lots of fire and north korea, ooops it wont be pretty. this is when billions will die , i belive. if they havnt got the weopens sure trusty US arms suppliers will supply our/there opposition yet again.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
interesting site.:agree:
i was thinking about this whole thing yesterday.
- the question we have to ask ourselves is are we really bothered if they went to the moon or not? - it doesnt affect the average joes day in the UK in 2009 does it?
the real thing that you should be thinking about it this. at some point the earth will be swallowed up by the sun as it expands (billions of years away), when it starts to die. assuming some humans survive holocausts, genocide, plagues etc etc then our descendants might wanna try and leave this planet. - unless we can come up with some sort of way of powering the technological advances needed to get a starship up and running, not to mention the raw materials needed to produce such a ship, then we are all doomed.
mr white
23-12-2009, 13:25
interesting site.:agree:
i was thinking about this whole thing yesterday.
- the question we have to ask ourselves is are we really bothered if they went to the moon or not? - it doesnt affect the average joes day in the UK in 2009 does it?
the real thing that you should be thinking about it this. at some point the earth will be swallowed up by the sun as it expands (billions of years away), when it starts to die. assuming some humans survive holocausts, genocide, plagues etc etc then our descendants might wanna try and leave this planet. - unless we can come up with some sort of way of powering the technological advances needed to get a starship up and running, not to mention the raw materials needed to produce such a ship, then we are all doomed.
maybe all this has happened before?!
dave j gtt
23-12-2009, 14:09
Not having a dig but I'm still struggling with what the above statement means?
edited my first post on this topic. sorry all it wasnt impressive :eek:
so its not just me that thinks, and reads stuff that explains situations we've witnessed , and been lied to about.
there are so many things that are lies, that capture your beliefs and justify and actions taken by people in power.
IE IRAQ and afgan. just a war for power and money, **** all to do with 9/11, or nuclear power.
after all 9/11 , Made Blair say this to the public. the world will never be the same.
the new laws , old laws broken , crock of **** , PEOPLE i do not speak crap.
the next war , is going be a bad one. lots of fire and north korea, ooops it wont be pretty. this is when billions will die , i belive. if they havnt got the weopens sure trusty US arms suppliers will supply our/there opposition yet again.
'the world will never be the same'.....it was not meant to be !!!
the uk is the second biggest exporter of arms in the world,second to guess who....the us of a.and the single biggest manufacturer of arms on the planet is british aerospace...theses weapons are used by terrorists all over the middle east and the world...
evidence is everywhere to support bombings an terrorist attacks etc..its laughable to what folk believe when someone in a suit talks on tv...trust me im a journalist.
utter rubbish,lies an more lies.
funny how when diana was murdered that the surveillance cameras and there are 17 of them working 24hrs a day between the ritz hotel an the pont de L'Alma tunnel at that time..of all times were not working...or so we are told....
and the oklahoma bomb...goverment agencies originally said it was 1,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate an fuel oil,but after it was proven that was just not possible it went to 4,000 ponds then 7,000 pounds,maybe enough to shatter some windows an scatter some debris......there were charges placed in that building....
loads of evidence to support all this,a company called 'controlled demolition' was hired by the government to bring down the rest of the murrah building and they were hired again for a bigger job removing the remains of the world trade center..
or how about the lier tony blair weeping his ass off for the children of dunblane,then sending machine guns that mow down children in east timor...
lies,lies,lies,lies,lies........
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